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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] In-mast furling motor 1988 Maramu

JOHN HAYES
 

Hi Graham

My Santorin 1991 probably has the same units

But it’s not clear what the motors are .... probably a small truck starter motor but they were quite easy to overhaul and replace the brushes and bearings

Getting the bearing off the shaft required professional help from someone who had a hydraulic press as I recall

The gear box they drive is a standard bonfiglioli unit available here (NZ) from the company for about Us$300
Best
John Hayes
Nga Waka
Wellington NZ

On 2/10/2018, at 3:39 AM, Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

Does anyone have specifications, wiring diagrams or mechanical drawings
for the in-mast furling motor that was installed in the Maramu c. 1988. 

Mine has failed and, despite efforts with brushes, I think it needs a
rebuild.  Any information, guidance or experience would be very welcome. 

Kind regards

Graham CRESSWELL
S/V Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu: Cabin light fuse location?!

smiles bernard
 

Thanks for his Bill. 
I really need something like this
I reworded my last boat and labelled everything loudly. It was a real help even though I knew the systems well

I think having a supply of cable ties you can label will be on my Christmas list!

All the very best
Miles


On 26 Sep 2018, at 13:32, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Miles,

It is always a problem to follow a previous owner who either did not document changes and/or did not label wires. I am sure that you will act differently. The best way to label a wire is with a white sleeve over the wire, but that is not always possible. I found some wire-ties with a label tag that helped me.

There are all sorts of styles of these attachable labels. Here is a link to one of them: https://www.amazon.com/Amgate-Write-Ethernet-Marking-100pcs/dp/B0153CAU2M

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 6:56 AM smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Just to say that I’ve now managed to trace the problem. 

Luckily one of the cabin lights had new cable with  unusual colours so I managed to follow that to locate the fuse 
Sadly these lights are sharing with other equipment so it’s another job on the to-do list which only even seems to grow !

All the best

Miles 


On 26 Sep 2018, at 10:47, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello there

I’m on day 2 of a low value treasure hunt.

I’m hunting for a fuse for my cabin lights

I did something stupid trying to fix the fridge light which must be wired into the same circuit so the cabin lights are now out.
Lights in the forepeak, both heads and aft cabin are fine fortunately.

I suspect that all the older Maramus have been adapted over the years and have fuses in different places but in case there is some hidden nook I’ve not yet discovered . . . .

I’ve tested all fuses in and around the circuit board area and behind the chart table, hunted in the engine bay, looked under the mast step and poked about all manner of dark corners but still lights are out

The lights must be wired direct to the battery as there is sadly no main switch to follow from.

Any thoughts about hidden areas I should explore would be very welcome !

All the best

Miles



Re: Galley Refrigerator Malfunction

Jose Venegas
 

Ian, 
You were correct!  I rewired the fan and problem solved.  Not a bad idea to have a spare controller but its no longer urgent.  

Thank you and thanks to Bill, Michel for the suggestions and info.

Jose

Ipanema SM2000 278
Boston


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Membrans

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Thank you Bill That was very helpful

Best Regards

Heinz

 

 

Von: amelyachtowners@...
Gesendet: Montag, 1. Oktober 2018 15:44
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Membrans

 

 

Made by Filmtec

SW 30 2540 (2.5"X 40")


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 06:14 Heinz Stutenbäumer heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello all

 

I would like to Change my Membranes for my Dessalator Duo 160.. Can anybody tell me the Size off the Membranes or the Oder Nr.

I Think the Producer is  DOW Film Tech.

 

Thank You for anther

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer

SM 2000 292


In-mast furling motor 1988 Maramu

Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
 

Hi all,

Does anyone have specifications, wiring diagrams or mechanical drawings
for the in-mast furling motor that was installed in the Maramu c. 1988. 

Mine has failed and, despite efforts with brushes, I think it needs a
rebuild.  Any information, guidance or experience would be very welcome. 

Kind regards

Graham CRESSWELL
S/V Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Membrans

 

Made by Filmtec
SW 30 2540 (2.5"X 40")


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 06:14 Heinz Stutenbäumer heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello all

 

I would like to Change my Membranes for my Dessalator Duo 160.. Can anybody tell me the Size off the Membranes or the Oder Nr.

I Think the Producer is  DOW Film Tech.

 

Thank You for anther

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer

SM 2000 292


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is this the end of an era?

Sv Garulfo
 

Does anyone know how many 55 and 64 were built?

Fair winds,
Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Curaçao 


On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 05:46, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I was told the last 64 has been sold. 


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 04:38 divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The 64 is still on the site....

I've emailed Amel to ask what the story is..and why ....
Let's see what they say....
Alan
Elyse Sm437
Baie de Carenage


Dessalator Membrans

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Hello all

 

I would like to Change my Membranes for my Dessalator Duo 160. Can anybody tell me the Size off the Membranes or the Oder Nr.

I Think the Producer is  DOW Film Tech.

 

Thank You for anther

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer

SM 2000 292


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is this the end of an era?

 

I was told the last 64 has been sold. 


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 04:38 divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The 64 is still on the site....

I've emailed Amel to ask what the story is..and why ....
Let's see what they say....
Alan
Elyse Sm437
Baie de Carenage


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is this the end of an era?

Alan Leslie
 

The 64 is still on the site....
I've emailed Amel to ask what the story is..and why ....
Let's see what they say....
Alan
Elyse Sm437
Baie de Carenage


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is this the end of an era?

Bob Grey
 

Bill, yes I believe Amel has discontinued both the 55 and 64, looks like Renaissance 3 will be my first and last Amel ketch.

I think they are intent on building modern sloops from now on.😢.

Bob Grey
Renaissance 3

On Monday, October 1, 2018, 13:53, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

I was just looking at http://Amel.fr  and was very surprised to see that only two models are listed, the 50 and the 64.


Has the 55 been officially dropped from production?  That would certainly explain why it is not on display at either the Newport nor Annapolis boat shows.


I really don't feel that the 50 or the 64 come from the same "genetics" as the Sharki, the Maramu, the Santorin, or the Super Maramu, despite superficial similarities in appearance. Certainly the 55 is a very different boat that any of the older models, but I can still follow a path to see where it came from.  I know things change, and I certainly do not pretend to understand the worldwide sailboat market, but still I feel like something is missing. 


I certainly do wish Chantiers Amel well, but it seems they aren't building my boats anymore. 


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

St Michaels, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Winter location Greek Ionian

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thank you Dean.

Respectfully;


Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54#099

On Sep 30, 2018, at 3:28 PM, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Mohammad,
We also give a vote to Cleopatra Marina near Preveza for winter storage. We have wintered our boats there for 3 seasons and are very happy with the service and facilities. They are quite familiar with Amel 54.
Cheers
Dean and Jan
SY Stella
Amel 54 #154


Is this the end of an era?

greatketch@...
 

I was just looking at http://Amel.fr  and was very surprised to see that only two models are listed, the 50 and the 64.


Has the 55 been officially dropped from production?  That would certainly explain why it is not on display at either the Newport nor Annapolis boat shows.


I really don't feel that the 50 or the 64 come from the same "genetics" as the Sharki, the Maramu, the Santorin, or the Super Maramu, despite superficial similarities in appearance. Certainly the 55 is a very different boat that any of the older models, but I can still follow a path to see where it came from.  I know things change, and I certainly do not pretend to understand the worldwide sailboat market, but still I feel like something is missing. 


I certainly do wish Chantiers Amel well, but it seems they aren't building my boats anymore. 


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

St Michaels, MD, USA


Re: Winter location Greek Ionian

Dean Gillies
 

Mohammad,
We also give a vote to Cleopatra Marina near Preveza for winter storage. We have wintered our boats there for 3 seasons and are very happy with the service and facilities. They are quite familiar with Amel 54.
Cheers
Dean and Jan
SY Stella
Amel 54 #154


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Winter location Greek Ionian

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks every one for the replies.

Respectfully;
Mohammad

On Sep 25, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Markus scrapp@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi, 
I keep my boat in KALAMATA.
Maybe it is not quite Ionian but very close to.
It is  very quiet place, some work place avaliable in marina.
KTel bus service avalible almost every hour to Athens. 2,5hour.
http://www.medmarinas.com/homepage.asp?ITMID=2
Brgds
Marek

Od: "'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups..com>
Do: amelyachtowners@...;
Wysłane: 17:24 Wtorek 2018-09-25
Temat: [Amel Yacht Owners] Winter location Greek Ionian



 

Hi everyone;

We are looking at leaving our boat in the Greek Ionian for this winter. We would appreciate all input about possible locations. We will not be wintering on board, so we are mainly looking for a safe, secure and reasonable location. It would be nice to have some services available but it is not critical.

Thanks in advance.

Respectfully;

Mohammad and Aty
AMEL 54 #099
B&B Kokomo




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Interior wood quality

James Alton
 

Bill,

   Great!  Sorry for the delayed response, we have been on the move headed South down the Tunisian coast.

   If you have any problems getting the new varnish to blend in or whatever we are glad to share our techniques.  

   I really appreciate your post on the bow thruster wiring upgrades that you did.  I will closely duplicate your efforts on Sueno as soon as I can get to that task.   In the meantime, we always remove the chain from the gypsy to at least reduce one of the concerns with the original setup.

Best,

James and Joann
SV Sueno
Maramu #220
Hammamet, Tunisia


Sent from Samsung tablet.

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From: "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 9/26/18 01:21 (GMT+01:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Interior wood quality

 

James,


Thanks--exactly what I was looking for.  I have had a lot of practice with a cabinet scraper which will transfer well.

We see very much what you describe with the fading of the wood around the port lights.  We'd like to keep everything covered more, but we live on the boat full time so that is not always possible.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] run away windlass

karkauai
 

Thanks for the link to your forepeak wiring changes.  That's now on my ever-increasing list of things to do.  I will also put a breaker or fuse in the power line to the bow thruster.  I'm interested to see your setup.
See you soon at the Rendezvous.
Kent



From: "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] run away windlass

 
Kent,

There is a write up of the wiring work I did on the windlass here:  https://fetchinketch.net/boat-projects/windlass-wiring/  I haven't written up the changes I made to the sheet winch wiring yet, but it is on my to-do list :-)

The previous owner of Harmonie protected the bow thruster wiring by putting 125 amp terminal fuses on each of the four 24V battery positive terminals.  When I upgraded the battery bank, the new batteries were just a tiny bit higher, and the terminal fuses no longer fit under the cover. 

I replaced them with a single 500 amp fuse in the main battery wire before the shut down switches.  That would blow before the cables to the windlass or the engine room melted down from a short somewhere.

There is no power supply switch on the thruster, other than the main power switch.  Not a perfect solution, but I'll live with it.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] model number of CAT pump on watermaker.

eric freedman
 

Hi Ian,

Thanks for the info.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 2:18 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] model number of CAT pump on watermaker.

 

 

Hi Eric,

it is indeed a model 277. Here is the Dessalator reference, but I know it will me much cheaper in the US.  Complete pump head TET_POMPCAT277_COMP
1 Piece 1 290,65 1 290,65 20,0

I just had mine fail when the heads of two of the four bolts that hold the pump head to the body sheared off. That's stainless for you. When I queried Dessalator about it they blamed it on the vibration of the ship!! My unit had 903 hours on it.

I would strongly advise that these bolts are changed every 700 hours to avoid the expense of a pump rebuild or replacement.

There is a number on the pump body that I can get you tomorrow if you wish.

Cheers

Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader Leros Greece

 

On 21/09/2018 05:58, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 




 

Does anyone know the model number of the Cat pump on the 160 lph watermaker?

It was suggested it is model 277.

Fair Winds,

eric

SM 376 Kimberlite

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Galley Refrigerator Malfunction

Ian Shepherd
 

Jose,

I had a similar problem some years back. The compressor ran but the fan didn't. The advice I got was that it was a problem within the controller (assuming you have applied 24V to the fan and checked it is OK?).

But you don't need to replace the controller. Simply connect the fan wires to 24V on the unit and you will be OK. Yes the fan will always be running when the fridge is powered on, but it will only consume milliamps. Mine has been running like this for several years now without any problem. Save the $200 for when the controller no longer works at all.

This workaround advice was given to me by a refrigeration engineer.

Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader Leros Greece


On 28/09/2018 21:56, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 
Jose,

Amel installed a 2-speed switch for fan speed control. I believe you may be talking about that switch. Possibly there is something wrong with the switch, the switch was replaced by the wrong type of switch, or there is something wrong with the fan. If the fan must work correctly, and the condenser must be free of dust for the refrigerator to work correctly.

The Danfoss is the compressor controller. It is a common part on most marine refrigerators. It can cause the start issues you have. I had 3 refrigeration units on BeBe #387 and always had a spare Danfoss to troubleshoot with. It costs about 200 euro.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:29 PM jvenegas@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Bill,


My Frigoboat has a Danfoss control 102N4030 which runs the compressor and the fan 
There is a switch with a red light, which seems to control the fan.  When I turned down such a switch down the compressor started, and the freezer is now getting cold but the fan is not running.

Do you know what for is the switch?  Could it be that something is wrong with the control?

I agree that the refrigerator is old, but my experience is those older refrigerators can last forever.  My grandmother refrigerator is still running after more than 60 years of use ;).


Jose



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar starting problem

karkauai
 

Mark, when I repowered, i had it set up so that the battery negative is only connected to the engine block when the key is turned to “glow”, “start”, and when I push the “Stop” button.  If it were connected when the key is in the “on” position, the battery would be connected to the bonding system when ever the engine is running.


Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Sep 28, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Cool, Mark.  That’s a great little gadget!

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Sep 27, 2018, at 7:48 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

 

It is going to be a problem in one of two areas. The starter or the panel (fuse or key switch). This is assuming you have already checked the engine start battery? If you haven’t checked the battery, jump if from one of the house batteries. Unless you have a good load tester, the battery may be bad but still test okay. Easiest way to find out is to jump it.

 

Buy a heavy duty one of these (any good auto parts store will have one): https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Tool-W80586-Remote-Starter/dp/B00OPVYHZ4/ref=pd_sbs_469_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00OPVYHZ4&pd_rd_r=08c6ff7b-c2ad-11e8-a3f5-a953cb310f5f&pd_rd_w=hNR7v&pd_rd_wg=tTgxs&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=0bb14103-7f67-4c21-9b0b-31f42dc047e7&pf_rd_r=HB14K7VGEC8X04D5100P&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=HB14K7VGEC8X04D5100P

 

Connect this to the starter. Be VERY careful to connect it to the correct terminals (Not the +\-) It connects to the Pos and the S (small) terminal on the starter. Turn the ignition on. Push the button. If the engine starts the problem is in the panel. If the engine doesn’t start, it is the starter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP6PbKhEzjU . this little switch basically bypasses the panel and allows you to isolate the problem.

 

Some people will make the connecting across the starters Pos and S terminals with a screw driver to start the engine. I think this is dangerous and would never recommend it unless it was a last resort. And, you will ruin a perfectly good screwdriver in the process.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 5:03 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar starting problem

 

 

Hi all. My Yanmar 4JH4HTE 110 HP has been flawless for 5 years except for a starter that had to be replaced last year. When I had to move Kristy from a slip at the boat yard to the travel lift, she wouldn’t start.

There is no power getting to the starter. I hear the floating ground solenoid click when I push the stop button and turn the key to the glow plug position, but not when I turn the key to “Start”. I am getting power at the 12v hubs on the forward bulkhead of the engine room.

I’m thinking it’s probably the key switch on the Yanmar panel, but wondered if a bad diode in the floating ground setup could keep it from starting, too. Any other ideas?
I doubt the mechanic here will have a clue about how the floating ground works.

Also, my engine hour meter seems to be counting hours, but the display only comes on intermittently. I’m guessing there’s a loose wire but haven’t found it yet. Could this be connected somehow?

Thanks for any suggestions.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy
StMichaels/Yacht Maintenance, Cambridge, MD
Kristy

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