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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FW: Climma has got me stumped

John Clark
 

Hi Mark,
   I sometimes get the HP trip after 15 seconds.  I think it is junk in the freon line.  Reason I think this is the sea water circuit is series now on my boat so I know there is good water flow to the unit.  Second when I switch the unit to heat pump it runs fine.

Originally my boat was plumbed with units in parallel.  One was clogged with no SW flow while other was fine.  At the hull flow looked fine.  

Spent a month in Le Marine with AC running.  Had to use dock water pressure to backflush the mud out of the system.  

On Oct 2, 2018 4:13 PM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Forgot to say, I got this from Climma’s web-page,

 

The high pressure switch device is snapped more than three times. Check the sea water circuit, switch off and then switch on again the system by means of the panel. If this happens again, call the Assistance Service.

 

Has anyone been down this road?

 

The unit is working again, but this is not the first time this has happened. Once it starts to run, it seems to be happy. It is getting to be a real pain to have it so finicky.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Aruba

www.creampuff.us

 

From: Mark Erdos [mailto:mcerdos@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 2:04 PM
To: 'amelyachtowners@...'
Subject: Climma has got me stumped

 

 

The rear AC unit aboard our boat has always been the most finicky when the strainer is dirty.  It is the first to get the HP error and normally I can change the strainer to make it happy. There are times when the entire AC system needs to be flushed and I can normally tell by the exit stream.

 

However, this is a little different. I am getting an HP error within a few minutes of start up. The system is really clean and I have an excellent jet stream of water exiting the boat. The other two units are working like champs.

 

The cooling pipes n the rear unit around the compressor feel normal. The top coil is hot, the lower coil is warm when the unit runs. After it give the HP error and shuts down, the coiling tubes instantly feel cool meaning I have a good flow of water.

 

Does anyone know if there is any other condition that would cause an HP error?

 

I am stumped!

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Aruba

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sargasso seaweed ( in Sainte Lucie / Frensh Antilles)

Ian Park
 

We have just returned to UK from Caribbean after 4 years there. The Sargasso weed has been a big problem on the eastern coasts of all the islands, but not the west coasts where the main anchorages are.
However, when crossing it is most likely that you will meet large patches of Sargasso weed (40m x 40m) from halfway across.
This will affect things like wind vane rudders, towed water generators and fishing lines.
Amels don’t have a problem as the keels and rudders shed the weed easily.

Have a good crossing

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sargasso seaweed ( in Sainte Lucie / Frensh Antilles)

Courtney Gorman
 

some spots in July were bad but fairly isolated to eastern and southeastern anchorages.  Only place we were affected was union Island
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101 Grenada


-----Original Message-----
From: jlm@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Oct 3, 2018 12:01 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sargasso seaweed ( in Sainte Lucie / Frensh Antilles)

Sargasso seaweed ( in Sainte Lucie / Frensh Antilles)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Loose Screw in Passage way

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Amelies


I observed a vibration in the passage-way when engine was running on my AMEL-54. 

I found two big screw (see pictures) opposite of the battery compartment, and tried to tighten the one who was loose. But suddenly when I touched the screw it was not holding at all and I was able to pull out by hand. The bolt is 70mm x 12mm

I have not discovered a screw-nut or thread counterpart inside. I was not able to find out for what those screens are and what they hold. From the other-side in the engine room, I have no access because there is the fuel-tank and I don't think these bolts are fixing the fuel-tank? There are only 2 screw-bolts, one at the very beginning and one at the end of the passageway.


Does anyone know what these screws are for, and what they fixing/holding?

Is it just to hold the wood panel in the passage-way? Or its it part of the fuel-tank?


Hope someone of you can give me a hint or an inside few, so I can fix it. 

Thanks and looking forward for many advices

Cheers

Ruedi 

SY WASABI, A-54#55



Olivier Beaute to New Zealand

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all, particularly New Zealand based Amelians. I checked with the moderator before posting this and of course got Oliviers permission.

Olivier Beaute the well known specialist in Amel yachts is coming to New Zealand soon to do work with some owners. Kindly he has offered to make himself available for consultation with any others who may be interested. It is a great opportunity for us antipodeans to have access to someone of Oliviers experience. He worked for Amel in France for many years and now operates a private consultancy. I doubt if there is any other individual with his knowledge of Amel yachts.

He will be in New Zealand from October the 27th leaving on November the 3rd. He has appointments in Auckland, Whangarei, and possibly Whangaroa or Opua.

His contact email is  olivierbeaute@... if you wish to contact him. 

He emailed me in reply to my question and said "You may post about my visit in Auckland on the yahoo forum and I'll do my best to meet the local Amel owners who may have questions".

Danny Simms

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Goit Deck Hatch Lens Reseal

greatketch@...
 

Ryan,

I ended up using SCS200. I had some onboard, it was suitable for the purpose. There are a number of silicones formulations that will stick to both acrylic and aluminum, but in every case the surface prep is critical, especially for aluminum.  

As we disassembled and cleaned out hatch frame, the failure was obviously at the silicone/Al bond because there was a lot of debris of older sealant remaining behind.  The surface prep for the last repair was just not good enough.

Once ALL of the old sealant has been removed, and the surface solvent wiped, the aluminum should be wire brushed to remove all oxidation and old sealant. Then wipe it again to be sure the surface is clean of dust. Cover with silicone sealant right away, before oxidation can significantly change the surface of the metal.

The surface of the lens should be throughly cleaned, and then wiped with isopropyl alcohol, then do not touch the sealing surface with bare fingers.  Skin oil can reduce adhesion on the smooth plastic surface.  

I avoid using solvents that can attack acrylic like toluene, MEK, and acetone.  The risk of damage to the unsealed part of the lens is too high.

There wasn't anything unusual about the Goiot hatches.  Things went very much as I expected.  Hopefully, nothing to worry about there for years....

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
St. Michaels, MD, USA

FW: Climma has got me stumped

Mark Erdos
 

Forgot to say, I got this from Climma’s web-page,

 

The high pressure switch device is snapped more than three times. Check the sea water circuit, switch off and then switch on again the system by means of the panel. If this happens again, call the Assistance Service.

 

Has anyone been down this road?

 

The unit is working again, but this is not the first time this has happened. Once it starts to run, it seems to be happy. It is getting to be a real pain to have it so finicky.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Aruba

www.creampuff.us

 

From: Mark Erdos [mailto:mcerdos@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 2:04 PM
To: 'amelyachtowners@...'
Subject: Climma has got me stumped

 

 

The rear AC unit aboard our boat has always been the most finicky when the strainer is dirty.  It is the first to get the HP error and normally I can change the strainer to make it happy. There are times when the entire AC system needs to be flushed and I can normally tell by the exit stream.

 

However, this is a little different. I am getting an HP error within a few minutes of start up. The system is really clean and I have an excellent jet stream of water exiting the boat. The other two units are working like champs.

 

The cooling pipes n the rear unit around the compressor feel normal. The top coil is hot, the lower coil is warm when the unit runs. After it give the HP error and shuts down, the coiling tubes instantly feel cool meaning I have a good flow of water.

 

Does anyone know if there is any other condition that would cause an HP error?

 

I am stumped!

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Aruba

www.creampuff.us

 

Climma has got me stumped

Mark Erdos
 

 

The rear AC unit aboard our boat has always been the most finicky when the strainer is dirty.  It is the first to get the HP error and normally I can change the strainer to make it happy. There are times when the entire AC system needs to be flushed and I can normally tell by the exit stream.

 

However, this is a little different. I am getting an HP error within a few minutes of start up. The system is really clean and I have an excellent jet stream of water exiting the boat. The other two units are working like champs.

 

The cooling pipes n the rear unit around the compressor feel normal. The top coil is hot, the lower coil is warm when the unit runs. After it give the HP error and shuts down, the coiling tubes instantly feel cool meaning I have a good flow of water.

 

Does anyone know if there is any other condition that would cause an HP error?

 

I am stumped!

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Aruba

www.creampuff.us

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Goit Deck Hatch Lens Reseal

Ryan Meador
 

When I redid the hatches on my old boat, Atkins and Hoyle recommended GE SCS2000 silicone.  It worked great and was still strong and leak-free when I sold the boat 7 years later.  Also at the recommendation of A&H, I used Silaprene (though I'm not sure which specific variant) for attaching new hatch gaskets at the same time and it held up great.

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 10:36 PM eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Kent,
I believe you are confusing Plexiglas with Lexan . Lexan is stronger that Plexiglas but scratches much easier. If it is also not UV treated it will yellow with age. Plexiglas-acrylic is preferred for glazing.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Sm 376 Kimberlite


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 11:55 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Hmm, thanks, Gabriele,  I didn't realize that.  When I ordered the new lens, I was told I could either have acrylic or plexiglass.  Acrylic being stronger, but Plexiglass being more resistant to scratches.

Here's a blurb I just found: Although Plexiglass is a form of acrylic plastic, there are subtle differences between the two types. Plexiglass has the distinction of being harder than normal acrylic which makes it easier to drill and cut without breakage. Additionally, Plexiglass is more chemical resistant than traditional acrylic.

I looked it up on Dow's info page.  Scuffing the acrylic with 80 grit sandpaper, then cleaning with alcohol is recommended with DowCorning's 795.

I'll let everyone know how it turns out.  I'm using DC795 grey color.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy




From: "Gabriele Antolini svsunnyside@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]"
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Goit Deck Hatch Lens Reseal

 
Hi Kent
Acrilic and Plexiglas are the same.
Plexiglas is the trade name given  by the inventor Roehm & Haas ....
Regards

Gabriele
Sunny Side
Maramu #219

On Wednesday, 26 September 2018, 12:33:06 GMT-4, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
I’m just about to do one on Kristy, Bill.  It had cracked last year and I had it done professionally by a company in Ft Lauderdale.  They used a clear silicone caulk which leaked a couple months later.

From what I’ve been reading, a glazing sealant by Dow (DC795) is what many professionals use, and what I’m going to use.  My hatch lenses are plexiglass, not acrylic.  I don’t know if DC795 works on acrylic or not.

For what it’s worth, there’s another product called DeBond that was designed to release 3M’s 5200 sealant.  I used it to get the hatch frame off of the deck and it made that job, and cleaning the old sealant off of the frame MUCH easier.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243
 
There is a specific silicone for bonding acrylic to aluminum. I forgot which one it was. Last time I called GE silicone division and they gave me the number it is not your regular silicone. Also when I rebuilt my last boat I spoke to the people at Atkins Hoyle. They recommend to prime the edge of the Plexiglas and the frame with toluene . It made the surfaces very sticky and the hatches never leaked. I also used under the genoa cars and the silicone stuck like crazy to it...  Be careful as it is very toxic.
Fair Winds,
Eric
SM 376

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:02 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 
Has anyone else had the need to re-seal the lens into one of the Goit deck hatches?  I just had one pop loose.

I've reset the lenses of other brands before, bedding them down in silicone, but just wondering if anyone knows of anything "unusual" about the Goit hatches?

Thanks!

Bill Kinney
Sm160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: Is this the end of an era?

Ian Park
 

The 50 is indeed a lovely boat with many of the cherished AMEL features.
We toured it at the Southampton boat show and given a magical windfall would have been the boat we would have chosen to order.
From my own limited ocean cruising perspective, I have learnt to appreciate the attributes of a ketch. I also like the two bow lockers, the vast cockpit locker and the port side ‘Liferaft’ locker which are absent on the 50. Most importantly my 3 year old grandson is able to run all through my Santorin with handholds within easy grasp everywhere. Guess the SM is the same. The 50 needs some additional heavy weather poles down below for an older guy like me to feel secure.
However, a very nice boat and given the price of buying a new one I am very happy about the stability of the re sale value of my current AMEL.
They have to be competitive to survive and it immediately got Cruising Boat of the Year. So hats off to the AMEL team.
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96

Re: Is this the end of an era?

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

With regard to the "genetics" of the 50:

7 watertight compartments
Retractable bowthruster
Painted Amel furling mast
Watertight engine room accessible from the bridge only
Large aft lazarette
Semi-enclosed cockpit
Power-everything from the cockpit, no need to ever step out
Same electric system as always, "floating"
Same electronics as always, Pochon > Furuno+B&G
Same cable-driven steering

We toured the 50 in Hyères in April and as soon as one steps into the engine room it is the familiar setup as always, down to the same greywater bilge pump we all are familiar with.  Except the space is significantly larger.

LOA is 16.5 meters, by the way; this boat is no smaller, no matter what the "50" branding may say.  Everything is larger and there is much more storage space than in, say, a Super Maramu.  Except for the fresh water.  Oh well, fire up that watermaker!

The 50 is the modern version of what an Amel looks like.

Cheers,


Peregrinus
SM2K n. 350 (2002)
Monastir




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is this the end of an era?

sharona246@...
 

78x AMEL 55
20x AMEL 64

Best
Lior
SHARONA, A54 #18

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] In-mast furling motor 1988 Maramu

JOHN HAYES
 

Hi Graham

My Santorin 1991 probably has the same units

But it’s not clear what the motors are .... probably a small truck starter motor but they were quite easy to overhaul and replace the brushes and bearings

Getting the bearing off the shaft required professional help from someone who had a hydraulic press as I recall

The gear box they drive is a standard bonfiglioli unit available here (NZ) from the company for about Us$300
Best
John Hayes
Nga Waka
Wellington NZ

On 2/10/2018, at 3:39 AM, Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

Does anyone have specifications, wiring diagrams or mechanical drawings
for the in-mast furling motor that was installed in the Maramu c. 1988. 

Mine has failed and, despite efforts with brushes, I think it needs a
rebuild.  Any information, guidance or experience would be very welcome. 

Kind regards

Graham CRESSWELL
S/V Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu: Cabin light fuse location?!

smiles bernard
 

Thanks for his Bill. 
I really need something like this
I reworded my last boat and labelled everything loudly. It was a real help even though I knew the systems well

I think having a supply of cable ties you can label will be on my Christmas list!

All the very best
Miles


On 26 Sep 2018, at 13:32, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Miles,

It is always a problem to follow a previous owner who either did not document changes and/or did not label wires. I am sure that you will act differently. The best way to label a wire is with a white sleeve over the wire, but that is not always possible. I found some wire-ties with a label tag that helped me.

There are all sorts of styles of these attachable labels. Here is a link to one of them: https://www.amazon.com/Amgate-Write-Ethernet-Marking-100pcs/dp/B0153CAU2M

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 6:56 AM smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Just to say that I’ve now managed to trace the problem. 

Luckily one of the cabin lights had new cable with  unusual colours so I managed to follow that to locate the fuse 
Sadly these lights are sharing with other equipment so it’s another job on the to-do list which only even seems to grow !

All the best

Miles 


On 26 Sep 2018, at 10:47, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello there

I’m on day 2 of a low value treasure hunt.

I’m hunting for a fuse for my cabin lights

I did something stupid trying to fix the fridge light which must be wired into the same circuit so the cabin lights are now out.
Lights in the forepeak, both heads and aft cabin are fine fortunately.

I suspect that all the older Maramus have been adapted over the years and have fuses in different places but in case there is some hidden nook I’ve not yet discovered . . . .

I’ve tested all fuses in and around the circuit board area and behind the chart table, hunted in the engine bay, looked under the mast step and poked about all manner of dark corners but still lights are out

The lights must be wired direct to the battery as there is sadly no main switch to follow from.

Any thoughts about hidden areas I should explore would be very welcome !

All the best

Miles


Re: Galley Refrigerator Malfunction

Jose Venegas
 

Ian, 
You were correct!  I rewired the fan and problem solved.  Not a bad idea to have a spare controller but its no longer urgent.  

Thank you and thanks to Bill, Michel for the suggestions and info.

Jose

Ipanema SM2000 278
Boston

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Membrans

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Thank you Bill That was very helpful

Best Regards

Heinz

 

 

Von: amelyachtowners@...
Gesendet: Montag, 1. Oktober 2018 15:44
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Membrans

 

 

Made by Filmtec

SW 30 2540 (2.5"X 40")


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 06:14 Heinz Stutenbäumer heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello all

 

I would like to Change my Membranes for my Dessalator Duo 160.. Can anybody tell me the Size off the Membranes or the Oder Nr.

I Think the Producer is  DOW Film Tech.

 

Thank You for anther

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer

SM 2000 292

In-mast furling motor 1988 Maramu

Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
 

Hi all,

Does anyone have specifications, wiring diagrams or mechanical drawings
for the in-mast furling motor that was installed in the Maramu c. 1988. 

Mine has failed and, despite efforts with brushes, I think it needs a
rebuild.  Any information, guidance or experience would be very welcome. 

Kind regards

Graham CRESSWELL
S/V Jamesby
Maramu 46 #240

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator Membrans

 

Made by Filmtec
SW 30 2540 (2.5"X 40")


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 06:14 Heinz Stutenbäumer heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello all

 

I would like to Change my Membranes for my Dessalator Duo 160.. Can anybody tell me the Size off the Membranes or the Oder Nr.

I Think the Producer is  DOW Film Tech.

 

Thank You for anther

 

Fair Winds

Heinz Stutenbäumer

SM 2000 292

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Is this the end of an era?

Sv Garulfo
 

Does anyone know how many 55 and 64 were built?

Fair winds,
Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Curaçao 


On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 05:46, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I was told the last 64 has been sold. 


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 04:38 divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The 64 is still on the site....

I've emailed Amel to ask what the story is..and why ....
Let's see what they say....
Alan
Elyse Sm437
Baie de Carenage