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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Shock from windlass

karkauai
 

Thanks Duane, I’ll do that and report what I find.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Oct 5, 2018, at 6:31 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,


I've been working on my windlass recently.  The motor wires directly to the negative battery terminal.   The switching happens on the positive side.

If your guy was touching the lifeline and the windlass and got a shock, I'll bet the positive was from the lifeline, and the negative for a circuit was from the windlass. 

So the wires in the lifeline is the thing to check first.  Check the voltage from the lifeline to the motor casing (I'm assuming there is some connection from the motor negative to the casing, which may be inadvertent).

Also, if one button works and the other doesn't, it could be the button, or it could be the control box.  My control box welded the contacts on one side for a runaway condition.  After "repairing" the control box, the up button works but not the down button because some of the wires from the solenoids to the control button spade terminals inside the box came free and I had to resolder them.  Apparently I was successful on the up button but not the down. 

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Foghorn?

 

Duane,

Based on a recent conversation, I think that you are going to be buying a new VHF. Almost all new VHFs come with a foghorn option that sounds through an external speaker. The easiest place to mount that speaker below the radome on the Mizzen.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Fri, Oct 5, 2018, 18:25 sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Has anyone fitted a foghorn on the main mast?  I don't see too many boats with one, but we were in fog for 8 hours earlier this year, and an automatic horn driven by the vhf would have been great.


If you have one, would you recommend the brand?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Shock from windlass

Duane Siegfri
 

Kent,

I've been working on my windlass recently.  The motor wires directly to the negative battery terminal.   The switching happens on the positive side.

If your guy was touching the lifeline and the windlass and got a shock, I'll bet the positive was from the lifeline, and the negative for a circuit was from the windlass. 

So the wires in the lifeline is the thing to check first.  Check the voltage from the lifeline to the motor casing (I'm assuming there is some connection from the motor negative to the casing, which may be inadvertent).

Also, if one button works and the other doesn't, it could be the button, or it could be the control box.  My control box welded the contacts on one side for a runaway condition.  After "repairing" the control box, the up button works but not the down button because some of the wires from the solenoids to the control button spade terminals inside the box came free and I had to resolder them.  Apparently I was successful on the up button but not the down. 

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Shock from windlass

karkauai
 

She’s back in the water.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 5, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I assume KRISTY is still on the hard.  Maybe you should measure the voltage between the rail and earth, and the windlass case and earth. Let me know...I have several ideas. 

And, the guy must have been touching something other than the switch and the rail because the switch is rubber.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018, 16:26 Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Steve.  I just ran new wires to the port nav light last year. I’ll look there first.


Thinking out loud here:
So that means there was a fault in the windlass energizing the case (? Dust from the contacts?), and the circuit is completed by the negative wire from the nav light?  Light doesn’t have to be on because switch for the lights is on the (+) wire, (-) is always connected.  If it were the (+) wire from the light, it would only be hot when the switch for the light was on.  Uhhhh, right???

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 5, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hey Kent,

Had a similar problem on Aloha a few years ago. It was a part of the nav light wire which had brittle insulation and exposed wire was making contact with inside of rail. It would give you a mild DC shock. 

Good luck sorting out the problem. 

Steve 
Aloha SM 72
Hawaii

On Oct 5, 2018, at 09:02, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups...com> wrote:

 

Hello Amelians,

I just heard from the yard where I am having work done on Kristy.
One of the guys in the yard guy a shock while operating the windlass by the switch on the windlass and at the same time touching the lifeline rail.

They don’t have any clue about the Amel “ floating ground” and want to blame the shock on the floating ground. I assured them that this was highly unlikely, but I am not sure what is going on here.

Both the windlass and lifeline rail are exposed to sea water.
Are the lifeline rails connected to the bonding system? If so, where is the connection?
Is the windlass connected to the bonding system? If so, where?

Does anyone have an idea of how I should go about trouble-shooting this “shocking” problem?

The yard worker was using the button switch that raises the anchor, which is working as it should. The button switch that lowers the chain works only intermittently, and the up and down toggle switch at the helm works correctly. There was no shock when touching the windlass and rail unless the up switch was activated. The windlass did bring the chain up.

This sounds like a potentially dangerous situation, so I am anxious to find the problem and get it repaired.

Thank you for any advice. I will report what I find.

Happy sailing, Fair Winds, and Respect de la Mer.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Shock from windlass

karkauai
 

Thanks Bill.  I’ll do that tomorrow and let you know what I find.  By “earth” do you mean battery negative or bonding?  Or both?Voltage or Resistance or both?

I assume he was touching the windlass case.  Seems like a stretch to be pushing the button and rail at the same time???

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 5, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I assume KRISTY is still on the hard.  Maybe you should measure the voltage between the rail and earth, and the windlass case and earth. Let me know...I have several ideas. 

And, the guy must have been touching something other than the switch and the rail because the switch is rubber.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018, 16:26 Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Steve.  I just ran new wires to the port nav light last year. I’ll look there first.


Thinking out loud here:
So that means there was a fault in the windlass energizing the case (? Dust from the contacts?), and the circuit is completed by the negative wire from the nav light?  Light doesn’t have to be on because switch for the lights is on the (+) wire, (-) is always connected.  If it were the (+) wire from the light, it would only be hot when the switch for the light was on.  Uhhhh, right???

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 5, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hey Kent,

Had a similar problem on Aloha a few years ago. It was a part of the nav light wire which had brittle insulation and exposed wire was making contact with inside of rail. It would give you a mild DC shock. 

Good luck sorting out the problem. 

Steve 
Aloha SM 72
Hawaii

On Oct 5, 2018, at 09:02, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups...com> wrote:

 

Hello Amelians,

I just heard from the yard where I am having work done on Kristy.
One of the guys in the yard guy a shock while operating the windlass by the switch on the windlass and at the same time touching the lifeline rail.

They don’t have any clue about the Amel “ floating ground” and want to blame the shock on the floating ground. I assured them that this was highly unlikely, but I am not sure what is going on here.

Both the windlass and lifeline rail are exposed to sea water.
Are the lifeline rails connected to the bonding system? If so, where is the connection?
Is the windlass connected to the bonding system? If so, where?

Does anyone have an idea of how I should go about trouble-shooting this “shocking” problem?

The yard worker was using the button switch that raises the anchor, which is working as it should. The button switch that lowers the chain works only intermittently, and the up and down toggle switch at the helm works correctly. There was no shock when touching the windlass and rail unless the up switch was activated. The windlass did bring the chain up.

This sounds like a potentially dangerous situation, so I am anxious to find the problem and get it repaired.

Thank you for any advice. I will report what I find.

Happy sailing, Fair Winds, and Respect de la Mer.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Foghorn?

Duane Siegfri
 

Has anyone fitted a foghorn on the main mast?  I don't see too many boats with one, but we were in fog for 8 hours earlier this year, and an automatic horn driven by the vhf would have been great.


If you have one, would you recommend the brand?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Shock from windlass

 

I assume KRISTY is still on the hard.  Maybe you should measure the voltage between the rail and earth, and the windlass case and earth. Let me know...I have several ideas. 

And, the guy must have been touching something other than the switch and the rail because the switch is rubber.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Fri, Oct 5, 2018, 16:26 Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Steve.  I just ran new wires to the port nav light last year. I’ll look there first.


Thinking out loud here:
So that means there was a fault in the windlass energizing the case (? Dust from the contacts?), and the circuit is completed by the negative wire from the nav light?  Light doesn’t have to be on because switch for the lights is on the (+) wire, (-) is always connected.  If it were the (+) wire from the light, it would only be hot when the switch for the light was on.  Uhhhh, right???

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 5, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hey Kent,

Had a similar problem on Aloha a few years ago. It was a part of the nav light wire which had brittle insulation and exposed wire was making contact with inside of rail. It would give you a mild DC shock. 

Good luck sorting out the problem. 

Steve 
Aloha SM 72
Hawaii

On Oct 5, 2018, at 09:02, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups..com> wrote:

 

Hello Amelians,

I just heard from the yard where I am having work done on Kristy.
One of the guys in the yard guy a shock while operating the windlass by the switch on the windlass and at the same time touching the lifeline rail.

They don’t have any clue about the Amel “ floating ground” and want to blame the shock on the floating ground. I assured them that this was highly unlikely, but I am not sure what is going on here.

Both the windlass and lifeline rail are exposed to sea water.
Are the lifeline rails connected to the bonding system? If so, where is the connection?
Is the windlass connected to the bonding system? If so, where?

Does anyone have an idea of how I should go about trouble-shooting this “shocking” problem?

The yard worker was using the button switch that raises the anchor, which is working as it should. The button switch that lowers the chain works only intermittently, and the up and down toggle switch at the helm works correctly. There was no shock when touching the windlass and rail unless the up switch was activated. The windlass did bring the chain up.

This sounds like a potentially dangerous situation, so I am anxious to find the problem and get it repaired.

Thank you for any advice. I will report what I find.

Happy sailing, Fair Winds, and Respect de la Mer.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Shock from windlass

karkauai
 

Thanks Steve.  I just ran new wires to the port nav light last year. I’ll look there first.

Thinking out loud here:
So that means there was a fault in the windlass energizing the case (? Dust from the contacts?), and the circuit is completed by the negative wire from the nav light?  Light doesn’t have to be on because switch for the lights is on the (+) wire, (-) is always connected.  If it were the (+) wire from the light, it would only be hot when the switch for the light was on.  Uhhhh, right???

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 5, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hey Kent,

Had a similar problem on Aloha a few years ago. It was a part of the nav light wire which had brittle insulation and exposed wire was making contact with inside of rail. It would give you a mild DC shock. 

Good luck sorting out the problem. 

Steve 
Aloha SM 72
Hawaii

On Oct 5, 2018, at 09:02, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Amelians,

I just heard from the yard where I am having work done on Kristy.
One of the guys in the yard guy a shock while operating the windlass by the switch on the windlass and at the same time touching the lifeline rail.

They don’t have any clue about the Amel “ floating ground” and want to blame the shock on the floating ground. I assured them that this was highly unlikely, but I am not sure what is going on here.

Both the windlass and lifeline rail are exposed to sea water.
Are the lifeline rails connected to the bonding system? If so, where is the connection?
Is the windlass connected to the bonding system? If so, where?

Does anyone have an idea of how I should go about trouble-shooting this “shocking” problem?

The yard worker was using the button switch that raises the anchor, which is working as it should. The button switch that lowers the chain works only intermittently, and the up and down toggle switch at the helm works correctly. There was no shock when touching the windlass and rail unless the up switch was activated. The windlass did bring the chain up.

This sounds like a potentially dangerous situation, so I am anxious to find the problem and get it repaired.

Thank you for any advice. I will report what I find.

Happy sailing, Fair Winds, and Respect de la Mer.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Deck running lights

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Most welcome Paul,

Well that is a long story in itself.
In short no: while the insurance totally agreed I was at zero fault, they wanted me to accept 50% responsibility as it was “not worth” for them to hire a lawyer and defend the case… I argued for 8 months, then gave up, so out of the $20k I paid 10 then 4 years later still asking the remaining 3 of the 10 k.

Good luck with your installation!

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Fri, 10/5/18, paul.cooper74@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Deck running lights
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 5, 2018, 9:54 AM


 









Thank for the pics, Alexandre and I am sorry to see
the damage that was done to your bow.  I hope your repair
was satisfactory and covered by insurance.
I will definitely have a SS plate
made and welded in place just like your installation. 
 Very nice.  I will look for the smallest possible LED
lights with the required brightness (2 nm), and I think
there are some now that are completely round with no edges
that a line could get caught on.
Paul C.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Suddenly screaming noise from the bowthruster and not moving the prop anymore

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Willem,

Yes it is possible.
Back then, I took pictures (which you saw at the bottom of the 1st link) and show them on the forum and people were unanimous (in my case) the spines were fine.

In my case, was the gears. I hope it is the same for you (and not the connection between the shaft and electric motor).

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Fri, 10/5/18, 'Willem J. Kroes' kavanga@outlook.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Suddenly screaming noise from the bowthruster and not moving the prop anymore
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, October 5, 2018, 12:31 PM


 













Good afternoon
Alexandre,
 
Thank you so much for your advice
and explanation.
 
I noticed that in your case the
bearings in the foot were worn out. But is it also possible
that the problem can be with the connection between the
shaft and
the electric motor? It seems the ‘screaming noise’ is
coming from the top, because it is so loud.
 
Kind regards,
 
Willem
 
 
 
 
 


Van: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>


Verzonden: vrijdag 5 oktober 2018 13:10

Aan: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Onderwerp: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Suddenly screaming
noise from the bowthruster and not moving the prop
anymore


 
 



Good morning William,



When it happened to me (same thing: propeller still on bow
thruster - but no movement and screaming sound) it was the
bearing inside the foot that were worn out.


Here are pictures: http://www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_spin.html



You will need from Amel Part 1110 (Mecanism Pied de
Propulseur SM) the price varies a lot if you purchase it
from Martinique (977 Euro) or La Rochelle (582 Euro)

scroll down to 1110 to see the part:

http://www.nikimat.com/spare_parts_bow_thruster.html



NOTE: Make sure you order with the Tufnol shaft and not the
bearing by themselves as the size of that shaft has changed
(look at the last picture on:
http://www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_lost_propeller.html
)



NOTE 2: when you receive the 1110 - the small open space to
receive the key on the small gear will have to be machined a
little as it is not thick enough.


If you look at the 2nd picture on
http://www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_spin.html

You will see where the key goes has not be machine as much
as on the old gear.

You have a good view on picture 6.



Wood luck, sincerely, Alexandre



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On Fri, 10/5/18, kavanga@outlook.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Suddenly screaming noise from
the bowthruster and not moving the prop anymore

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Friday, October 5, 2018, 4:03 AM





 



















Hello fellow Amel

owners,

I just moored my boat in

the El Portet Marina in DENIA, Spain and almost done, the

bow thruster did not function anymore and made a
screaming

noise. The prop is still there but it can turn almost

without any resistance.

Any idea what can be wrong

and how to repair is very much

welcome.

Best

regards,

Willem

Kroes

SM #351

KAVANGA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Emergency tiller cap O Ring

smiles bernard
 

Could I ask how peoples emergency tiller cap is attached to the boat?
Mine cap has a stainless eyebolt protruding from its top but it’s not attached by this to anything. 
I presume it is supposed to be lashed to a fixed point somewhere but can’t see an obvious place. 

Many thanks in advance 

Miles
Maramu 162


On 5 Oct 2018, at 03:44, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alan,


A second vote for Florida Bearings as an O-ring supplier.  Bearings and lip seals too.  They don't always stock the metric sizes, but can order them in quickly.

On our boat we found that cap to be an annoying leak source.  For reasons not at all clear to me, there were a great many fine gelcoat cracks right across the O-ring sealing surface, or what SHOULD have been the O-ring sealing surface. We had two choices, carefully fix every one of the fine crazing cracks,  and prep the area back to a standard suitable for an o-ring seal--or something else.  

We did... something else and used a little silicone sealant to glue down the cover.  Nothing that a screwdriver (or desperate fingernails) couldn't remove posthaste in an emergency.  Leaks no more.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Shock from windlass

Stephen Davis
 

Hey Kent,

Had a similar problem on Aloha a few years ago. It was a part of the nav light wire which had brittle insulation and exposed wire was making contact with inside of rail. It would give you a mild DC shock. 

Good luck sorting out the problem. 

Steve 
Aloha SM 72
Hawaii

On Oct 5, 2018, at 09:02, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Amelians,

I just heard from the yard where I am having work done on Kristy.
One of the guys in the yard guy a shock while operating the windlass by the switch on the windlass and at the same time touching the lifeline rail.

They don’t have any clue about the Amel “ floating ground” and want to blame the shock on the floating ground. I assured them that this was highly unlikely, but I am not sure what is going on here.

Both the windlass and lifeline rail are exposed to sea water.
Are the lifeline rails connected to the bonding system? If so, where is the connection?
Is the windlass connected to the bonding system? If so, where?

Does anyone have an idea of how I should go about trouble-shooting this “shocking” problem?

The yard worker was using the button switch that raises the anchor, which is working as it should. The button switch that lowers the chain works only intermittently, and the up and down toggle switch at the helm works correctly. There was no shock when touching the windlass and rail unless the up switch was activated. The windlass did bring the chain up.

This sounds like a potentially dangerous situation, so I am anxious to find the problem and get it repaired.

Thank you for any advice. I will report what I find.

Happy sailing, Fair Winds, and Respect de la Mer.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Shock from windlass

karkauai
 

Hello Amelians,

I just heard from the yard where I am having work done on Kristy.
One of the guys in the yard guy a shock while operating the windlass by the switch on the windlass and at the same time touching the lifeline rail.

They don’t have any clue about the Amel “ floating ground” and want to blame the shock on the floating ground. I assured them that this was highly unlikely, but I am not sure what is going on here.

Both the windlass and lifeline rail are exposed to sea water.
Are the lifeline rails connected to the bonding system? If so, where is the connection?
Is the windlass connected to the bonding system? If so, where?

Does anyone have an idea of how I should go about trouble-shooting this “shocking” problem?

The yard worker was using the button switch that raises the anchor, which is working as it should. The button switch that lowers the chain works only intermittently, and the up and down toggle switch at the helm works correctly. There was no shock when touching the windlass and rail unless the up switch was activated. The windlass did bring the chain up.

This sounds like a potentially dangerous situation, so I am anxious to find the problem and get it repaired.

Thank you for any advice. I will report what I find.

Happy sailing, Fair Winds, and Respect de la Mer.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 24VDC “misc” breaker

Sv Garulfo
 

Courtney, Dean,

Ok, this is resolved; the wires go the foot of the mast and are used for optional spreader lights. 

Thanks all for your contributions


Thomas

GARULFO 
A54-122
Curaçao 

On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 13:10, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Thomas yes we have both switches and need both on for our propane to work.  I do not know if it is because we have both Butane and Propane but that is how Trippin works.

Cheers
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>

To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Fri, Oct 5, 2018 9:03 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 24VDC “misc” breaker

 
Hi Courtney,

Thanks for your reply 

We have another dedicated switch for the gaz solenoid, labelled “electrovane gaz” and located just below the bilge pump button on the 24VDC panel. 
Do you have a switch that has no specific use on your panel?

Cheers!
Thomas

GARULFO
A54-122
Curaçao 



On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 08:36, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
on our boat Tripinn' #101 amel 54 we must use that switch when we are using our Propane tanks to cook. 
Hope this helps
Courtney



-----Original Message-----
From: 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: Yahoo Group Amel <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thu, Oct 4, 2018 2:45 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 24VDC “misc” breaker

 
Hi all,

On our A54 24V panel (port column, lowest position), there is a breaker labelled  “divers” (miscellaneous in French) that i would like to use for a new piece if equipment in the engine room. 
Does anyone know when the cables for that breaker go?

Thanks a bunch!

Fair winds

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Curaçao 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drawer/cupboard pulls PAUL on KERPA

Paul Cooper <paul.cooper74@...>
 

You can use plcbluebird at geemaildotcom.  Thanks!

On Fri Oct 05 2018 14:17:41 GMT+0000 (GMT), karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Hi Paul,
I need a private email address for communications about the drawer pulls.

Please contact me at:
karkauai "at" yahoo "dot" com

Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck running lights

Paul Cooper <paul.cooper74@...>
 

Thank you, Bill Kinney, for that information.  It is very helpful.  i will give a follow up once I have completed the installation.

Paul C.
Maracuya, 

On Fri Oct 05 2018 17:18:33 GMT+0000 (GMT), 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Hi,

In the USA you can only use the tricolor while sailing. It is not used while motoring or motor sailing.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 9:23 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck running lights

 

 

Hi Paul,

   congrats on the new boat.  My older SM #37 had rail mounted lights but they failed at some point before I bought the boat.  A previous owner switched to using a trcolor mast head light in place of the deck level lighting.  If you don't have the wiring already run for deck lights the tricolor may be the quickest way to get into compliance.  A note, I think Joel Potter said that at one point  the deck lights were an "option" but all boats were wired for them.  Check around in the forward lockers and see if you can find wires going toward the forward tooe rail.

 

                Regards,  John

 

SV Annie SM #37

Prickly Bay 

 

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 8:05 AM paul.cooper74@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello all.  My new to me SM2K hull # 238 was built for a French customer (named Henri Amel incidentally) and was built with no deck-level running lights.  Apparently they are /were not required in France at that time and no subsequent owners felt they needed to uprade to be in compliance with COLREGS. 

 

Obviously I need them since international COLREGs require them when steaming.  And common sense says they are necessary when steaming, especially in close quarters.

 

I do not know how to search this forum for old posts so I apologize if I am rehashing an old thread, but I would love to hear if any others have had this problem and how they dealt with it.   Specifically, the problem is getting wire into the bow pulpit when it wasn't constructed with wire access.  There is no hole between the sail locker and the inside of the angled bow pulpit stanchion.    Also, the best location and mounting hardware for the bow lights and any problems with aftermarket installations.  The stern light should not be difficult-- I am thinking of putting the stern light on the solar arch rather than the stern railing.

 

I will be in Martinique in a few weeks.  Do you know if the yard there has specifically dealt with this retrofit on a SM?

 

Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

Paul Cooper

SM2K #238 "Maracuya"

Grenada

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor Roller Removal...

John Clark
 

Bill can I forward your email to another Amel owner who recently replaced his bow roller.  He has an older SM.

 John


On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 11:58 AM greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Anybody have some insight into the the anchor roller axle is secured?  On most boats these have nuts on threaded ends, but what I see on my bow roller is not giving me any insight on how to removed it!


This is the original Super Maramu bow fitting, not the one used on the 2K boats.


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Suddenly screaming noise from the bowthruster and not moving the prop anymore

Willem Kroes
 

Good afternoon Alexandre,

 

Thank you so much for your advice and explanation.

 

I noticed that in your case the bearings in the foot were worn out. But is it also possible that the problem can be with the connection between the shaft and the electric motor? It seems the ‘screaming noise’ is coming from the top, because it is so loud.

 

Kind regards,

 

Willem

 

 

 

 

 

Van: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...>
Verzonden: vrijdag 5 oktober 2018 13:10
Aan: amelyachtowners@...
Onderwerp: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Suddenly screaming noise from the bowthruster and not moving the prop anymore

 

 

Good morning William,

When it happened to me (same thing: propeller still on bow thruster - but no movement and screaming sound) it was the bearing inside the foot that were worn out.
Here are pictures: http://www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_spin.html

You will need from Amel Part 1110 (Mecanism Pied de Propulseur SM) the price varies a lot if you purchase it from Martinique (977 Euro) or La Rochelle (582 Euro)
scroll down to 1110 to see the part:
http://www.nikimat.com/spare_parts_bow_thruster.html

NOTE: Make sure you order with the Tufnol shaft and not the bearing by themselves as the size of that shaft has changed (look at the last picture on: http://www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_lost_propeller.html )

NOTE 2: when you receive the 1110 - the small open space to receive the key on the small gear will have to be machined a little as it is not thick enough.
If you look at the 2nd picture on http://www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_spin.html
You will see where the key goes has not be machine as much as on the old gear.
You have a good view on picture 6.

Wood luck, sincerely, Alexandre

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On Fri, 10/5/18, kavanga@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Suddenly screaming noise from the bowthruster and not moving the prop anymore
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, October 5, 2018, 4:03 AM


 









Hello fellow Amel
owners,
I just moored my boat in
the El Portet Marina in DENIA, Spain and almost done, the
bow thruster did not function anymore and made a screaming
noise. The prop is still there but it can turn almost
without any resistance.
Any idea what can be wrong
and how to repair is very much
welcome.
Best
regards,
Willem
Kroes
SM #351
KAVANGA  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck running lights

eric freedman
 

Hi,

In the USA you can only use the tricolor while sailing. It is not used while motoring or motor sailing.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 9:23 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck running lights

 

 

Hi Paul,

   congrats on the new boat.  My older SM #37 had rail mounted lights but they failed at some point before I bought the boat.  A previous owner switched to using a trcolor mast head light in place of the deck level lighting.  If you don't have the wiring already run for deck lights the tricolor may be the quickest way to get into compliance.  A note, I think Joel Potter said that at one point  the deck lights were an "option" but all boats were wired for them.  Check around in the forward lockers and see if you can find wires going toward the forward tooe rail.

 

                Regards,  John

 

SV Annie SM #37

Prickly Bay 

 

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 8:05 AM paul.cooper74@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello all.  My new to me SM2K hull # 238 was built for a French customer (named Henri Amel incidentally) and was built with no deck-level running lights.  Apparently they are /were not required in France at that time and no subsequent owners felt they needed to uprade to be in compliance with COLREGS. 

 

Obviously I need them since international COLREGs require them when steaming.  And common sense says they are necessary when steaming, especially in close quarters.

 

I do not know how to search this forum for old posts so I apologize if I am rehashing an old thread, but I would love to hear if any others have had this problem and how they dealt with it.   Specifically, the problem is getting wire into the bow pulpit when it wasn't constructed with wire access.  There is no hole between the sail locker and the inside of the angled bow pulpit stanchion.    Also, the best location and mounting hardware for the bow lights and any problems with aftermarket installations.  The stern light should not be difficult-- I am thinking of putting the stern light on the solar arch rather than the stern railing.

 

I will be in Martinique in a few weeks.  Do you know if the yard there has specifically dealt with this retrofit on a SM?

 

Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

Paul Cooper

SM2K #238 "Maracuya"

Grenada

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 24VDC “misc” breaker

Courtney Gorman
 

Hi Thomas yes we have both switches and need both on for our propane to work.  I do not know if it is because we have both Butane and Propane but that is how Trippin works.
Cheers
Courtney


-----Original Message-----
From: 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Oct 5, 2018 9:03 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 24VDC “misc” breaker

 
Hi Courtney,

Thanks for your reply 

We have another dedicated switch for the gaz solenoid, labelled “electrovane gaz” and located just below the bilge pump button on the 24VDC panel. 
Do you have a switch that has no specific use on your panel?

Cheers!
Thomas

GARULFO
A54-122
Curaçao 



On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 08:36, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
on our boat Tripinn' #101 amel 54 we must use that switch when we are using our Propane tanks to cook. 
Hope this helps
Courtney



-----Original Message-----
From: 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: Yahoo Group Amel <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thu, Oct 4, 2018 2:45 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 24VDC “misc” breaker

 
Hi all,

On our A54 24V panel (port column, lowest position), there is a breaker labelled  “divers” (miscellaneous in French) that i would like to use for a new piece if equipment in the engine room. 
Does anyone know when the cables for that breaker go?

Thanks a bunch!

Fair winds

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Curaçao 

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