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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership

David Adams <Wildernesstech@...>
 

Thanks Bill.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William Klein
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:52 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership

They speak english at Amel. In the past they have been very helpful and
it seemed like they knew my individual boat.
----- Original Message -----
From: passagemakersv_friendship
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership

We may be nearing the purchase of an Amel and would like to know what
type of support you have found from the factory, and any other good
parts source where Amels are concerned?

The one we are looking at needs work (Why I can afford it) and
unfortunately I do not speak French so talking to the factory seems
out.

What have you folks found?

David


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership

William Klein <sidecar1@...>
 

They speak english at Amel. In the past they have been very helpful and it seemed like they knew my individual boat.

----- Original Message -----
From: passagemakersv_friendship
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership


We may be nearing the purchase of an Amel and would like to know what
type of support you have found from the factory, and any other good
parts source where Amels are concerned?

The one we are looking at needs work (Why I can afford it) and
unfortunately I do not speak French so talking to the factory seems
out.

What have you folks found?

David


Amel Ownership

passagemakersv_friendship <Wildernesstech@...>
 

We may be nearing the purchase of an Amel and would like to know what
type of support you have found from the factory, and any other good
parts source where Amels are concerned?

The one we are looking at needs work (Why I can afford it) and
unfortunately I do not speak French so talking to the factory seems
out.

What have you folks found?

David


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster electrical failure

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Dave, there is a black box next to the motor when in the up position.  Open the box and clean the contacts.  And check that the micro switches are clean and workng.
Good luck. Richard and Joan on Challenge in Corse

--- On Sun, 11/2/08, drdavegoodman <drdavegoodman@gmail.com> wrote:

From: drdavegoodman <drdavegoodman@gmail.com>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster electrical failure
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 6:42 AM






Greetings all.
My bowthruster on SM#230 suddenly failed.. The bowthruster is in the
up position. Flipped the control panel switch to the 'on position' to
lower the motor unit, and the control panel red light indicator did
not come on, and the motor to lower the bowthruster did not operate.
Its as if there is no power getting to either the control panel or
lowering motor unit. I checked the circuit breaker on the 24volt
electrical panel and that is working properly. Wonder what to do next
to trouble shoot the problem. Any ideas?
Thanks
Dave


Re: Boat Considerations... SM2K Hull 477 (year 2005) for sale

amir@...
 

Hi Everybody,

Friends, if anybody wants (or knows someone who wants) to buy a Super
Maramu 2000, please note hull #477 (year 2005) is now put for sale. [:(]
For details, see http://www.conforto.com

Ciao,

[:x] Ruti and [=;] Amir

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "passagemakersv_friendship"
<Wildernesstech@...> wrote:

Hey Folks,

We are looking at two boats for purchase; a Sharki and a
Euros. The Euros has the prop' in an aperature and may keep line
(lobster pots) out of it, plus it is cheaper. The Sharki is in the
same condition as the Euros (they both need work). The plans are
for the wife and I to step up from our Pearson Vanguard to one of
these boats for our off shore cruising. While there is a
considerable price difference, The Sharki is the more alluring of
the two. We don't need, and probably can't afford a larger boat
(got to preserve the cruising kitty). I sure could use some input!
I am boat and systems knowledgable, but not about Amels, and I don't
have to tell you about the lack of information about them. We had
been waffling about pilot house or not, and many other options that
the Amel line seems to agree with us on. I am 50 now, and really
don't wish to sit in the elements to helm any more than necessary
(I'll do it, but can't expect it out of the wife). With the
Vanguard we are planning to stick to the Caribbean, but with an Amel
the world opens up. Please tell us about any common problems and
what you think of the boats in general. Any owners of the above
boats who wouldn't mind further contact for a chat would also be
appreciated.

Thanks,
David & Brenda


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster electrical failure

Peter Killen
 

Dave, it sounds as if the fuse located in a small junction box next to the
bowthruster has blown. That happened me in the past. Very simple to
replace. Regards, Peter SM Pure Magic

2008/11/2 drdavegoodman <drdavegoodman@gmail.com>

Greetings all.
My bowthruster on SM#230 suddenly failed.. The bowthruster is in the
up position. Flipped the control panel switch to the 'on position' to
lower the motor unit, and the control panel red light indicator did
not come on, and the motor to lower the bowthruster did not operate.
Its as if there is no power getting to either the control panel or
lowering motor unit. I checked the circuit breaker on the 24volt
electrical panel and that is working properly. Wonder what to do next
to trouble shoot the problem. Any ideas?
Thanks
Dave



Re: bow thruster electrical failure

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Dave,
Had same sounding problem - was just the on-off switch in the control
panel. Try putting a wire jumper across the switch terminals and see
if the red light goes on.
On mine, the rubber boot had cracked with time and allowed water into
the switch. Actually, just wiggling it a lot got it working, but I'll
now replace it (and the rubber boot).
Regards,
Craig Briggs, Santorin #68


bow thruster electrical failure

drdavegoodman
 

Greetings all.
My bowthruster on SM#230 suddenly failed.. The bowthruster is in the
up position. Flipped the control panel switch to the 'on position' to
lower the motor unit, and the control panel red light indicator did
not come on, and the motor to lower the bowthruster did not operate.
Its as if there is no power getting to either the control panel or
lowering motor unit. I checked the circuit breaker on the 24volt
electrical panel and that is working properly. Wonder what to do next
to trouble shoot the problem. Any ideas?
Thanks
Dave


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hard or Soft Antifouling

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

We like Pettit Trinadad SR for an all around hard paint. It has worked by far better then any of the "soft" stuff we have tried...
Richard and Joan on Challenge in Corse for the winter

--- On Wed, 10/29/08, Armin <n4796p@yahoo.de> wrote:

From: Armin <n4796p@yahoo.de>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hard or Soft Antifouling
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 3:47 PM
Hi all,
what are the suggestions of the group about using hard or
soft
antifouling. We are planning to do some longer sailing
trips
(Turkey-Gibraltar-Canaries-Caribic-....) next time. Which
kind of
antifouling will be the best to use? We where told to take
soft
antifouling, but I doubt.
Best regards
Armin
S/Y ASHIA
SM2k, #357


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart

Fisher, Thomas W.
 

Hi Haje,

When I took mine apart there was deffinately grease in it not oil. i have seen other postings were people have said the same thing. Several have suggested a heavy weight silicon based grease and at least one has said 90W gear oil. I filled mine with grease and it sems to be working fine. In the end it might be wise to contact Amel to be sure. Please let me know if you get an answer. Sorry I did not take any pictures when I had the unit apart.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Hajé
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 00:43
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart



Dear Tom,

Do you haven any photo's of the inside of the housing?

And what would be your advice graese or gearbox oil?

Thx, Hajé

From: Fisher, Thomas W.
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart

Morning Haje,

There is an aluminum plate on the bottom. remove the small screws and it should slide off over the bolts. I had to use a butter knife ground smooth and flat as a wedge between the plate and the housing to get it started. Once its off you will have access to lower end bearings and seal. The side rectangular access panel will let you get at the worm gear and the leaver. The leaver engages/ disengages the worm grear. The small circular panel allows you access to the worm gear bearings and seals.

Hope that helps!!

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com [mailto: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Etske Moerman Kroon
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 21:31
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart

Dear Tom,

Thanks for the advice. I got the engine restored by our local
starterengine shop (costs EUR 400,00, but it was a rustdump before and
new now).
After a lot of WD40 the shear pin came out, but still the manual wheel
is stuck to the box. Therefore I released the bolts which hold the
aluminium profile to the wheel and now there sepparated.

After a day of WD40 and using ample force the box starts to move
again. The wheel turns on handforce and goes smoother every minute.
Only the lever doesn't get into gear anymore. Beneath the axial
conextion between the engine and the actual roller there's a aluminium
housing. How do I get into there? And what can I expect to find inside
(what kindof clutch etc.).

Thanks, Hajé

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart

Hajé <hajukas@...>
 

Dear Tom,

Do you haven any photo's of the inside of the housing?

And what would be your advice graese or gearbox oil?

Thx, Hajé


From: Fisher, Thomas W.
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart


Morning Haje,


There is an aluminum plate on the bottom. remove the small screws and it should slide off over the bolts. I had to use a butter knife ground smooth and flat as a wedge between the plate and the housing to get it started. Once its off you will have access to lower end bearings and seal. The side rectangular access panel will let you get at the worm gear and the leaver. The leaver engages/ disengages the worm grear. The small circular panel allows you access to the worm gear bearings and seals.

Hope that helps!!

Tom




-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Etske Moerman Kroon
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 21:31
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart

Dear Tom,

Thanks for the advice. I got the engine restored by our local
starterengine shop (costs EUR 400,00, but it was a rustdump before and
new now).
After a lot of WD40 the shear pin came out, but still the manual wheel
is stuck to the box. Therefore I released the bolts which hold the
aluminium profile to the wheel and now there sepparated.

After a day of WD40 and using ample force the box starts to move
again. The wheel turns on handforce and goes smoother every minute.
Only the lever doesn't get into gear anymore. Beneath the axial
conextion between the engine and the actual roller there's a aluminium
housing. How do I get into there? And what can I expect to find inside
(what kindof clutch etc.).

Thanks, Hajé

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Maramu sailplan

Dave_Benjamin
 

We are finally starting on design work for our sails. I measured the
rig today and found that the "P" is about a foot (0.3m) higher than
what I've seen published. We own hull #29. I heard from another owner
that at some point Amel went with a slightly taller rig. Perhaps this
happened early on.

For anyone interested we are going to build the main with 9.5oz
Bainbridge HSX which is a great cloth made in France. We'll make it
with a deep third reef to reduce the need for a storm trysail. A
previous owner installed a Harken Battcar system so we'll stick with a
full batten design. Otherwise I would consider a 2+2 arrangement.
We'll do a twin ply head and clew for added strength. An overhead
leechline will allow adjustment from the tack at any time. We use
Vectran for the leech and foot lines.

If anyone is considering a new main for their Maramu a sail like ours
will be close to $4K USD depending on luff hardware requirements. A
furling main is much less.

I have not decided on genoa size yet. The sailplan on the Amel website
looks like the boat originally had a large genoa with a fairly low
clew that sheeted above and just forward of the dodger. Another Maramu
owner told me that this original design works quite well with the
combination of reaching strut and spinnaker pole. I think it would
great as long as you have a smaller headsail that can be deployed in
wind over 20 knots.

I'd like to hear what has been working well for other Maramu's. If
you've replaced the genoa what did you go with and how well has it
worked out? What would you do different if you could?


Hard or Soft Antifouling

Armin <n4796p@...>
 

Hi all,
what are the suggestions of the group about using hard or soft
antifouling. We are planning to do some longer sailing trips
(Turkey-Gibraltar-Canaries-Caribic-....) next time. Which kind of
antifouling will be the best to use? We where told to take soft
antifouling, but I doubt.
Best regards
Armin
S/Y ASHIA
SM2k, #357


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart

Fisher, Thomas W.
 

Morning Haje,


There is an aluminum plate on the bottom. remove the small screws and it should slide off over the bolts. I had to use a butter knife ground smooth and flat as a wedge between the plate and the housing to get it started. Once its off you will have access to lower end bearings and seal. The side rectangular access panel will let you get at the worm gear and the leaver. The leaver engages/ disengages the worm grear. The small circular panel allows you access to the worm gear bearings and seals.

Hope that helps!!

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Etske Moerman Kroon
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 21:31
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart



Dear Tom,

Thanks for the advice. I got the engine restored by our local
starterengine shop (costs EUR 400,00, but it was a rustdump before and
new now).
After a lot of WD40 the shear pin came out, but still the manual wheel
is stuck to the box. Therefore I released the bolts which hold the
aluminium profile to the wheel and now there sepparated.

After a day of WD40 and using ample force the box starts to move
again. The wheel turns on handforce and goes smoother every minute.
Only the lever doesn't get into gear anymore. Beneath the axial
conextion between the engine and the actual roller there's a aluminium
housing. How do I get into there? And what can I expect to find inside
(what kindof clutch etc.).

Thanks, Hajé


Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart

Etske Moerman Kroon <hajukas@...>
 

Dear Tom,

Thanks for the advice. I got the engine restored by our local
starterengine shop (costs € 400,00, but it was a rustdump before and
new now).
After a lot of WD40 the shear pin came out, but still the manual wheel
is stuck to the box. Therefore I released the bolts which hold the
aluminium profile to the wheel and now there sepparated.

After a day of WD40 and using ample force the box starts to move
again. The wheel turns on handforce and goes smoother every minute.
Only the lever doesn't get into gear anymore. Beneath the axial
conextion between the engine and the actual roller there's a aluminium
housing. How do I get into there? And what can I expect to find inside
(what kindof clutch etc.).

Thanks, Hajé


Re: Boat Considerations...

Etske Moerman Kroon <hajukas@...>
 

Dear Brenda and David,

We (Etske and Hajé) just bought a Sharki and as a newbie with Amels
I'm surprised by the room and manouverability of this boat.

Yesterday I did a full speed stop on engine and within 30 metres she
was from 9 knot reversing (between having geared and put the power on).

Incredible. I don't know what the Euros does there, but if you ever
need an emergency stop....

Charmed in many ways, Hajé


Re: main sail furl

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Barbara:

For photos and parts descriptions for the outhaul motor and gearbox see the photo's
section, page 4, SM Outhaul Service.
For a description of removing the outhaul and servicing the unit see message # 4019
where I describe that procedure.

Good Luck

Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Battaglini Ornella Barbara"
<ornella.battaglini@...> wrote:

Can amel people help me?
this is the problem: when the electric engine on the boom is out of order, how can I
control by hand the main sail clew (foot)? and how is possible to disassemble the reducer
Bonfiglioli from the winch Andersen.
Thanks for helps and good wind.
Ornella, Santorin N° 122



Re: main sail furl

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Barbara:

To disengage the outhaul motor/gearbox from the Aderson Winch just remove the bolt on
the top of the arm that attaches to the Anderson winch. (See the photos section for
pictures of the winch and the bolt). You can then use a piece of line to attach to the clue,
haul the sail out manually and cleat it at the end of the boom on the cleat that should be
either attached to the end of the boom or cut into the boom.

Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Battaglini Ornella Barbara"
<ornella.battaglini@...> wrote:

Can amel people help me?
this is the problem: when the electric engine on the boom is out of order, how can I
control by hand the main sail clew (foot)? and how is possible to disassemble the reducer
Bonfiglioli from the winch Andersen.
Thanks for helps and good wind.
Ornella, Santorin N° 122

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Boat Considerations...

Fisher, Thomas W.
 

David and Brenda

My wife and purchased a Sharki 2 years ago and I am currently in the middle of a major refit. We moved up from a CS33. Quite a major change in every way.
I would be happy to share my experiences with Amel, the Sharki (All good by the way) as well as issues surrounding refitting a boat of this class. I would be happy to send you my phone contact. Email me at fishert@kgh.kari.net

Tom Fisher
"SHEILA"
Sharki #142

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of passagemakersv_friendship
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:19
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Boat Considerations...



Hey Folks,

We are looking at two boats for purchase; a Sharki and a
Euros. The Euros has the prop' in an aperature and may keep line
(lobster pots) out of it, plus it is cheaper. The Sharki is in the
same condition as the Euros (they both need work). The plans are
for the wife and I to step up from our Pearson Vanguard to one of
these boats for our off shore cruising. While there is a
considerable price difference, The Sharki is the more alluring of
the two. We don't need, and probably can't afford a larger boat
(got to preserve the cruising kitty). I sure could use some input!
I am boat and systems knowledgable, but not about Amels, and I don't
have to tell you about the lack of information about them. We had
been waffling about pilot house or not, and many other options that
the Amel line seems to agree with us on. I am 50 now, and really
don't wish to sit in the elements to helm any more than necessary
(I'll do it, but can't expect it out of the wife). With the
Vanguard we are planning to stick to the Caribbean, but with an Amel
the world opens up. Please tell us about any common problems and
what you think of the boats in general. Any owners of the above
boats who wouldn't mind further contact for a chat would also be
appreciated.

Thanks,
David & Brenda


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Boat Considerations...

William Klein <sidecar1@...>
 

If you want to throw another boat into the fray, I have a Maramu ketch for sale in the New York City area. The boat is in very good running condition and also has the prop in an aperture and has a line cutter on the prop shaft as an extra measure if you plan on running through lobster territory. Leave a message at sidecar1@verizon.net if you want more info. Bill Klein SV "Popeye"

----- Original Message -----
From: passagemakersv_friendship
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:19 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Boat Considerations...


Hey Folks,

We are looking at two boats for purchase; a Sharki and a
Euros. The Euros has the prop' in an aperature and may keep line
(lobster pots) out of it, plus it is cheaper. The Sharki is in the
same condition as the Euros (they both need work). The plans are
for the wife and I to step up from our Pearson Vanguard to one of
these boats for our off shore cruising. While there is a
considerable price difference, The Sharki is the more alluring of
the two. We don't need, and probably can't afford a larger boat
(got to preserve the cruising kitty). I sure could use some input!
I am boat and systems knowledgable, but not about Amels, and I don't
have to tell you about the lack of information about them. We had
been waffling about pilot house or not, and many other options that
the Amel line seems to agree with us on. I am 50 now, and really
don't wish to sit in the elements to helm any more than necessary
(I'll do it, but can't expect it out of the wife). With the
Vanguard we are planning to stick to the Caribbean, but with an Amel
the world opens up. Please tell us about any common problems and
what you think of the boats in general. Any owners of the above
boats who wouldn't mind further contact for a chat would also be
appreciated.

Thanks,
David & Brenda