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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown Wood piece [2 Attachments]

Dan
 

Looks like a seat for inflatable boat


On Oct 29, 2018, at 8:25 AM, carcodespam@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have found this piece of wood in my Sharki #60, build 1982.
Length is 85 centimeter (33.46 "), width is 20 centimeter (7.87 ") and thickness is 24 millimeter (1 ").
Each side has a plastic piece attached as seen in the pics.
What for is that ?

Gerhard
Sharki #60


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Unknown Wood piece

carcodespam@...
 

I have found this piece of wood in my Sharki #60, build 1982.
Length is 85 centimeter (33.46 "), width is 20 centimeter (7.87 ") and thickness is 24 millimeter (1 ").
Each side has a plastic piece attached as seen in the pics.
What for is that ?

Gerhard
Sharki #60



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: mizzen furler failure

Kelly Ran
 

Hi Thomas,

We were not able to free the inner tube and outer sleeve. I do not think the bushing should rigidly couple to either part. In any case, the inner tube should turn pretty easily inside the sleeve.

The most dissasembly we could do was unthread the horizontal part all the way and remove the forward part of the inner tube. The inner tube is 2 parts, and the forward section is bolted on.

If you detach the foil, you can screw on the horizontal part again ... the bevel gears will start meshing as you engage more threads, but you won't really be driving anything (as the foil is not attached). You will need to take care that the "pinned" position corresponds to the foil position that you want.

FWIW the new furler gearbox that we received from Amel is buttersmooth and infinitely easier to use than our original seized gearbox.  I fear that only my left arm will get a workout (outhaul), as the right arm (furling) does not need much effort anymore.  (The new part also has a seal that seems to have completely disintegrated on the old part. Which makes me think that if you dissasemble and grease the part, it will still need a seal. This is a red annular seal that goes around the base of the foil attachment part as it exits the gearbox. (There is also a neoprene-ish washer inside the foil attachment part to dampen the foil's axial motion?))

Keep us updated on your progress; we will want to refurbish our old gearbox when we have more time. Thanks and good luck,
kelly + ryan
SM233 Iteration
Newport

On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 4:31 PM 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 


Hi Derick, Ryan and Kelly, 

We have the same situation with our mizzen gearbox. The horizontal tube is seized; the outer sleeve, the nylon bushing and the inner tube coupling the gears to the winch handle female bit are all solidly stuck together. 
Is there any advice on how to make them work freely again? Is the nylon bushing meant to be solidly coupled to either the outer sleeve or the inner tube?

Also, as a result of that seizure, I think the thread between the horizontal elements and the gearbox appears to have slipped. Any idea if that could be remediated in any way?

Thanks


Thomas
GARULFO
A54-122
Aruba

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 19:18, Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks, Derick.  That's great info, and matches the diagram I received from Amel (which I intend to upload to the files section when I get a chance).  Do you have any idea how the rigger separated the pieces of the tube?  Also, did you simply screw it back in, and it turns freely enough that it doesn't unscrew itself again?


Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 11:37 PM derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ryan,

I had the same problem on Brava. The piece in your picture had frozen up, and I needed to take it to a rigger. The rigger was able to remove the inner tube from the outer tube, and clean and regrease it so that then it turned freely. If you then disengage the gearbox from the mizzen foil, you can remove it and see how the piece you have pictured screws into the gearbox. There are only a few threads between the two pieces. While you have the gearbox out, you can grease it too.

Derick Gates
SM2K #400 Brava

Currently on the hard in Antigua


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa UV Strip Super Maramu 2000

 

Elaine and Michael,

The Sunbrella color name is: Taupe.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 9:46 PM 'leishman.elaine' leishman.elaine@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for the info Bill, I do like the colour on the new ones.  I am assuming they would use Sunbrella for the UV protector strip.
 Just looking at the Sunbrella colour choices at the moment as we will be re-doing our bimini as well, and there are a lot to choose from.

Regards,
Elaine and Michael
Super Maramu  251


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date:27/10/2018 23:47 (GMT+10:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa UV Strip Super Maramu 2000

 

The Amel 55, 64, & 50 use Taupe for UV panels. Take a look at www.amel.fr

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 3:13 AM divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Elaine and Michael,


Any good sailmaker will give you lots of options for colour.

We have Burgundy Sunbrella fabric....it looks nice and is also better then white as you can see when it is starting to deteriorate.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Opua, New Zealand


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa UV Strip Super Maramu 2000

Elaine Leishman
 

Hi Alan,

Thats a good suggestion as we didn't  realize the UV strip needed replacing until we took the sail down prior to re-rigging.  It would perhaps be easier to spot in a darker colour.

Thanks,
Elaine and Michael 
Super Maramu Nebo 251


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date:27/10/2018 18:43 (GMT+10:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Cc:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa UV Strip Super Maramu 2000

 

Hello Elaine and Michael,


Any good sailmaker will give you lots of options for colour.

We have Burgundy Sunbrella fabric....it looks nice and is also better then white as you can see when it is starting to deteriorate.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Opua, New Zealand


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa UV Strip Super Maramu 2000

Elaine Leishman
 

Thanks for the info Bill, I do like the colour on the new ones.  I am assuming they would use Sunbrella for the UV protector strip.
 Just looking at the Sunbrella colour choices at the moment as we will be re-doing our bimini as well, and there are a lot to choose from.

Regards,
Elaine and Michael
Super Maramu  251


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date:27/10/2018 23:47 (GMT+10:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa UV Strip Super Maramu 2000

 

The Amel 55, 64, & 50 use Taupe for UV panels. Take a look at www.amel.fr

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 3:13 AM divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Elaine and Michael,


Any good sailmaker will give you lots of options for colour.

We have Burgundy Sunbrella fabric....it looks nice and is also better then white as you can see when it is starting to deteriorate.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Opua, New Zealand


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: mizzen furler failure

Sv Garulfo
 


Hi Derick, Ryan and Kelly, 

We have the same situation with our mizzen gearbox. The horizontal tube is seized; the outer sleeve, the nylon bushing and the inner tube coupling the gears to the winch handle female bit are all solidly stuck together. 
Is there any advice on how to make them work freely again? Is the nylon bushing meant to be solidly coupled to either the outer sleeve or the inner tube?

Also, as a result of that seizure, I think the thread between the horizontal elements and the gearbox appears to have slipped. Any idea if that could be remediated in any way?

Thanks


Thomas
GARULFO
A54-122
Aruba

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 19:18, Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks, Derick.  That's great info, and matches the diagram I received from Amel (which I intend to upload to the files section when I get a chance).  Do you have any idea how the rigger separated the pieces of the tube?  Also, did you simply screw it back in, and it turns freely enough that it doesn't unscrew itself again?


Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 11:37 PM derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ryan,

I had the same problem on Brava. The piece in your picture had frozen up, and I needed to take it to a rigger. The rigger was able to remove the inner tube from the outer tube, and clean and regrease it so that then it turned freely. If you then disengage the gearbox from the mizzen foil, you can remove it and see how the piece you have pictured screws into the gearbox. There are only a few threads between the two pieces. While you have the gearbox out, you can grease it too.

Derick Gates
SM2K #400 Brava

Currently on the hard in Antigua


Re: Genoa UV Strip Super Maramu 2000

Ian Park
 

We had our Bimini and new cockpit tent made in taupe so we just had the wind uv strip done the same. Goes well with an Amel.

Ian


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa UV Strip Super Maramu 2000

 

The Amel 55, 64, & 50 use Taupe for UV panels. Take a look at www.amel.fr

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 3:13 AM divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello Elaine and Michael,


Any good sailmaker will give you lots of options for colour.

We have Burgundy Sunbrella fabric....it looks nice and is also better then white as you can see when it is starting to deteriorate.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Opua, New Zealand


Re: Genoa UV Strip Super Maramu 2000

Alan Leslie
 

Hello Elaine and Michael,

Any good sailmaker will give you lots of options for colour.

We have Burgundy Sunbrella fabric....it looks nice and is also better then white as you can see when it is starting to deteriorate.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Opua, New Zealand


Genoa UV Strip Super Maramu 2000

Elaine Leishman
 

We need to replace the UV protection strip on the genoa and wanted to know if anyone has changed the colour from the original. If so any photos. Also if anyone can tell me what the colour options are for this strip on the Amel 55. Thanks,
Elaine and Michael, Super Maramu #251


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] South Florida Surveyor?

amelforme
 

Perhaps a phone conversation this weekend?

JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
Office 954-462-5869 

On Oct 26, 2018, at 12:54 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hey Joel,


I represent that remark!  My apologies to Paul.  I'll blame.... spell check! Yeah that's it...  spell check!

Bill Kinney


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] South Florida Surveyor?

greatketch@...
 

Hey Joel,

I represent that remark!  My apologies to Paul.  I'll blame.... spell check! Yeah that's it...  spell check!

Bill Kinney


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Swivel Horns

James Alton
 

Clear reinforced hose is what was on my Genoa furler and it may well have been original. (31 years) The surface of the hose had turned brown and crinkly from the UV exposure so it looked nasty but it was not sticky and transferring to other surfaces.  I did note that there was some corrosion pitting of the stainless tube when I replaced the hose.

Best,

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220
Arbatax,  Italy


-----Original Message-----
From: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2018 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Swivel Horns

 
Replaced ours last year, I'll confirm the answer they are hose.  

When replacing them I considered using black rubber hose for UV resistance, but was worried about it leaving black marks on the mast paint.  I ended up using regular clear reenforced vinyl water hose figuring it was easy to replace if needed. 

Just had them in hand the other day. A year later of mostly tropical sun, and they are still in perfect shape.  

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Swivel Horns

greatketch@...
 

Replaced ours last year, I'll confirm the answer they are hose.  

When replacing them I considered using black rubber hose for UV resistance, but was worried about it leaving black marks on the mast paint.  I ended up using regular clear reenforced vinyl water hose figuring it was easy to replace if needed. 

Just had them in hand the other day. A year later of mostly tropical sun, and they are still in perfect shape.  

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Swivel Horns

Mike Ondra
 

Alan,

I ordered plain ss rod online and had a machine shop cut the threads (ss requires special thread cutters) so that with 2 nuts and lock washers they could be mounted as were the originals.

I picked up some tubing at a hardware store that was a snug fit and UV resistance. I don’t recall the actual material. I have notice no problem after 3 years with this.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD soon to be St. Augustine for the winter

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 9:56 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Swivel Horns

 

 

Hi All, my swivel arms/Horns for the Genoa furler are all bent up, I don't have a problem getting new ones made up so my question is does anyone know where to get the rubber covers that go on the stainless rods.

Regards

Alan Grayson

SV Ora Pai SM 406

Ft Lauderdale


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Swivel Horns

 

Alan,

I thought it was a piece of hose. That said, see if you can get hose that is UV resistant.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 09:00 bazgrayson@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi All, my swivel arms/Horns for the Genoa furler are all bent up, I don't have a problem getting new ones made up so my question is does anyone know where to get the rubber covers that go on the stainless rods.

Regards

Alan Grayson

SV Ora Pai SM 406

Ft Lauderdale


Swivel Horns

Alan Grayson
 

Hi All, my swivel arms/Horns for the Genoa furler are all bent up, I don't have a problem getting new ones made up so my question is does anyone know where to get the rubber covers that go on the stainless rods.

Regards

Alan Grayson

SV Ora Pai SM 406

Ft Lauderdale


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] South Florida Surveyor?

amelforme
 

You guys must be hitting the Amstel beer a bit to hard...

The surveyor is Paul Anstey and he has surveyed well more than 350 Amel boats for my clients over a 37 year period. He is not Olivier. He is very capable and fair minded.

JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
Office 954-462-5869 

On Oct 25, 2018, at 10:58 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Paul Amstel surveyed Harmonie when we bought her.  He found the important issue, and understood the Amel systems more than well enough to avoid flagging things that were "different" but "right".


I'd recommend him.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Paul Amstel surveyed my boat before I bought her was extremely pleased he has done many Amels 


On Oct 23, 2018, at 7:24 PM, smlocalola@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone have contact info for a knowledgeable AMEL surveyor in South Florida? I need an insurance survey done.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] South Florida Surveyor?

greatketch@...
 

Paul Amstel surveyed Harmonie when we bought her.  He found the important issue, and understood the Amel systems more than well enough to avoid flagging things that were "different" but "right".

I'd recommend him.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., <Itsfun1@...> wrote :

Paul Amstel surveyed my boat before I bought her was extremely pleased he has done many Amels 


On Oct 23, 2018, at 7:24 PM, smlocalola@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone have contact info for a knowledgeable AMEL surveyor in South Florida? I need an insurance survey done.