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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Suddenly screaming noise from the bowthruster and not moving the prop anymore

Willem Kroes
 

Hi Bill,

I bought the lower unit kit from Amel. Besides the end cap did not fit in (holes for the screws were at different distances) the unit is installed again. But I have some feeling of uncertainty.  I can move the prop of the bow thruster by hand when it is lowered with power off. Is this normal? I am still on the hard but the yards planning is to put me into the water tomorrow. I don't want to be forced to go out of the water immediately again because the bow thruster is not working correctly.

Please  advise.

Kind regards,

Willem Kroes

SM #351 KAVANGA

 Ascar Boatyard, Cartagena, Spain


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main outhaul rope

 

Thanks for that. I guess some Dyneema rope is slipperier than other. I will start recommending Vectran.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 19:28 Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Hi Bill, yes bar tight. And I couldn't believe how fast and far it slipped in 18 knots of wind Thanks for the page
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean pearl

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 09:23, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Danny, maybe it wasn't tight enough. I know at least 10 others that have not had the problem. Did you use the outhaul to really get it tight?

I am sending you a page out of my book.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 2:14 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill,

yes I tried to get Kevlar and had to take dyneema 12mm. I fitted it very tightly but useless, as soon as the breeze came up it slipped dramatically. I agree with you about it diminishing in diameter but I think the casing is very slick too. It would seem 14mm might be a try but I doubt if it will work. 

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean pearl

On 01 November 2018 at 07:37 "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Danny,

Amel used Kevlar 10mm on the SM. It is nearly impossible to find.

Amel suggests 12mm Dyneema:
The issue was not with the strength because Dyneema line is stronger than Kevlar. The issue is that most rope manufacturers are taking fiber from the middle of the rope and 10mm isn't really 10mm anymore. I purchased some 10mm that I could squeeze with my fingers to 7mm. Look at the Anderson Line Tender. You will see that if you can squeeze 10mm to 7mm, the line will certainly slip.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:31 PM Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

 

Hi All,
A little while ago a number of you posted on replacing the control line for the mainsail out haul. I remember dyneema was not successful. Can some one remind me of what type was the best.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

 

 

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main outhaul rope

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Alan,

Ive used 12mm dyneema. Ive tried tightening today. Yet to sail,

Regards

Danny

On 01 November 2018 at 14:19 "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Danny,


I tried with Spectra which is similar to Dyneema, but no matter how tight, it slipped.
I think the diameter also has something to do with it...Anderson actually specify 12mm in their manual.
Good luck !
Alan
Elyse SM437

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main outhaul rope

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Danny,

I tried with Spectra which is similar to Dyneema, but no matter how tight, it slipped.
I think the diameter also has something to do with it...Anderson actually specify 12mm in their manual.
Good luck !
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main sheet boom slider broken [2 Attachments]

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Paul,

There have indeed been quite a number boats with failures of this item. Two things to consider when having one made. First, not all aluminum is created equal. Be sure to quiz the fabricator as to the correct grade. Second, consider making it longer, say twice as long to make it more robust.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 

Ocean Pearl 

On 01 November 2018 at 10:33 "pstas2003@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good day fellow sailors.

I didn’t pay too much attention to this topic when I read it as I didn’t think we had the problem.  However, a week or so ago, when Chuck and Kim on S/V Joy stopped by, Chuck had me take a close look and sure enough, we had some cracks in our block.  Chuck’s was in worse shape than ours.  He removed his and found a local fabricator here in Hampton, VA to make a new one.  I jumped on board and had one made for myself as well. 

Chuck instructed the fabricator to make the new one larger in the hopes that it would be stronger.  We were both happy with the finished product (see pics).

The fabricator made a bunch of extras (I think 6) if anyone is interested in obtaining one.  The cost out the door was $205.00.

The fabricator can be contacted at:

Gilliam Welding
757-727-0773
Metals at GilliamWelding dot com
www.GilliamWelding.com

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising US East Coast


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main outhaul rope

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Alan,

I'm going to try and protect my investment in the dyneema by trying on Bills advice to make it even tighter, I dont think its possible but Ill give it a go. If that fails Ill see if I can get vectran. The line I had before lasted 40.000 miles before its cover stripped, per favour being very tight.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 01 November 2018 at 10:05 "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Danny,


I tried all sorts and none worked until I used 12mm Vectran and that has been very successful for the past 4 years now..

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main outhaul rope

Danny Simms
 

Hi Bill, yes bar tight. And I couldn't believe how fast and far it slipped in 18 knots of wind Thanks for the page
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean pearl

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 09:23, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Danny, maybe it wasn't tight enough. I know at least 10 others that have not had the problem. Did you use the outhaul to really get it tight?

I am sending you a page out of my book.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 2:14 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill,

yes I tried to get Kevlar and had to take dyneema 12mm. I fitted it very tightly but useless, as soon as the breeze came up it slipped dramatically. I agree with you about it diminishing in diameter but I think the casing is very slick too. It would seem 14mm might be a try but I doubt if it will work. 

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean pearl

On 01 November 2018 at 07:37 "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Danny,

Amel used Kevlar 10mm on the SM. It is nearly impossible to find.

Amel suggests 12mm Dyneema:
The issue was not with the strength because Dyneema line is stronger than Kevlar. The issue is that most rope manufacturers are taking fiber from the middle of the rope and 10mm isn't really 10mm anymore. I purchased some 10mm that I could squeeze with my fingers to 7mm. Look at the Anderson Line Tender. You will see that if you can squeeze 10mm to 7mm, the line will certainly slip.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:31 PM Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

 

Hi All,
A little while ago a number of you posted on replacing the control line for the mainsail out haul. I remember dyneema was not successful. Can some one remind me of what type was the best.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

 

 

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Nikimat. I have a question for you

Alan Grayson
 

Thanks Alex. I googled how to check the compressor. It said check continuity between all 3 three pins. I had continuity between all three. then it said you should not have continuity between any of the pins and the compressor case. Did you check this and have the same examples?
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ft Lauderdale


Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

Paul Stascavage
 

Good day fellow sailors.

I didn’t pay too much attention to this topic when I read it as I didn’t think we had the problem.  However, a week or so ago, when Chuck and Kim on S/V Joy stopped by, Chuck had me take a close look and sure enough, we had some cracks in our block.  Chuck’s was in worse shape than ours.  He removed his and found a local fabricator here in Hampton, VA to make a new one.  I jumped on board and had one made for myself as well. 

Chuck instructed the fabricator to make the new one larger in the hopes that it would be stronger.  We were both happy with the finished product (see pics).

The fabricator made a bunch of extras (I think 6) if anyone is interested in obtaining one.  The cost out the door was $205.00.

The fabricator can be contacted at:

Gilliam Welding
757-727-0773
Metals at GilliamWelding dot com
www.GilliamWelding.com

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising US East Coast


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main outhaul rope

 

I agree 12mm Vectran would be better.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 4:11 PM divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Danny,


I tried all sorts and none worked until I used 12mm Vectran and that has been very successful for the past 4 years now..

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Nikimat. I have a question for you

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Alan,

In my case the compressor was shorted… I swap it with he forward one, on www.nikimat.com you can see the swapping prices.

Good luck to you… Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Wed, 10/31/18, bazgrayson@hotmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Nikimat. I have a question for you
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 12:25 PM


 









Hi Alex, you had a post on your
website about your aft A/C unit tripping the main GFI on the
220v panel. I am having the same issue. I didn't see on
that post if you found out what the problem actually was you
just mentioned that the unit did not work. Do you remember
what the problem
was?RegardsAlan
GraysonSV Ora Pai SM
406Ft Lauderdale


Re: Main outhaul rope

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Danny,

I tried all sorts and none worked until I used 12mm Vectran and that has been very successful for the past 4 years now..

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guma - SM2000 hull 261 for sale

 

Keith,

I am really sorry to hear this.

Best of luck. Judy says hi!

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 3:11 PM Keith Carter keithcarter88@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Guma is all set up for a trip around the world.  Sadly, I had an accident skiing in March and can no longer walk - so the round the world trip will have to be done by other means. 

My lovely boat Guma is for sale.  She’s a well looked-after SM2000 from 1999, with all the usual kit plus some extras (but nothing of which Monsieur Amel would disapprove) including solar panels on a targa frame and Webasto heating. Guma is on the hard in Kos in the Greek Peloponnese. 

Message me on keithcarter88 {at} gmail {dot} com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main outhaul rope

 

Danny, maybe it wasn't tight enough. I know at least 10 others that have not had the problem. Did you use the outhaul to really get it tight?

I am sending you a page out of my book.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 2:14 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill,

yes I tried to get Kevlar and had to take dyneema 12mm. I fitted it very tightly but useless, as soon as the breeze came up it slipped dramatically. I agree with you about it diminishing in diameter but I think the casing is very slick too. It would seem 14mm might be a try but I doubt if it will work. 

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean pearl

On 01 November 2018 at 07:37 "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Danny,

Amel used Kevlar 10mm on the SM. It is nearly impossible to find.

Amel suggests 12mm Dyneema:
The issue was not with the strength because Dyneema line is stronger than Kevlar. The issue is that most rope manufacturers are taking fiber from the middle of the rope and 10mm isn't really 10mm anymore. I purchased some 10mm that I could squeeze with my fingers to 7mm. Look at the Anderson Line Tender. You will see that if you can squeeze 10mm to 7mm, the line will certainly slip.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:31 PM Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

 

Hi All,
A little while ago a number of you posted on replacing the control line for the mainsail out haul. I remember dyneema was not successful. Can some one remind me of what type was the best.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

 

 

 


 


 


Guma - SM2000 hull 261 for sale

Keith Carter <keithcarter88@...>
 

Guma is all set up for a trip around the world.  Sadly, I had an accident skiing in March and can no longer walk - so the round the world trip will have to be done by other means. 
My lovely boat Guma is for sale.  She’s a well looked-after SM2000 from 1999, with all the usual kit plus some extras (but nothing of which Monsieur Amel would disapprove) including solar panels on a targa frame and Webasto heating. Guma is on the hard in Kos in the Greek Peloponnese. 

Message me on keithcarter88 {at} gmail {dot} com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main outhaul rope

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Bill,

yes I tried to get Kevlar and had to take dyneema 12mm. I fitted it very tightly but useless, as soon as the breeze came up it slipped dramatically. I agree with you about it diminishing in diameter but I think the casing is very slick too. It would seem 14mm might be a try but I doubt if it will work. 

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean pearl

On 01 November 2018 at 07:37 "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Danny,

Amel used Kevlar 10mm on the SM. It is nearly impossible to find.

Amel suggests 12mm Dyneema:
The issue was not with the strength because Dyneema line is stronger than Kevlar. The issue is that most rope manufacturers are taking fiber from the middle of the rope and 10mm isn't really 10mm anymore. I purchased some 10mm that I could squeeze with my fingers to 7mm. Look at the Anderson Line Tender. You will see that if you can squeeze 10mm to 7mm, the line will certainly slip.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:31 PM Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

 

Hi All,
A little while ago a number of you posted on replacing the control line for the mainsail out haul. I remember dyneema was not successful. Can some one remind me of what type was the best.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

 

 

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main outhaul rope

 

Danny,

Amel used Kevlar 10mm on the SM. It is nearly impossible to find.

Amel suggests 12mm Dyneema:
The issue was not with the strength because Dyneema line is stronger than Kevlar. The issue is that most rope manufacturers are taking fiber from the middle of the rope and 10mm isn't really 10mm anymore. I purchased some 10mm that I could squeeze with my fingers to 7mm. Look at the Anderson Line Tender. You will see that if you can squeeze 10mm to 7mm, the line will certainly slip.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:31 PM Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi All,
A little while ago a number of you posted on replacing the control line for the mainsail out haul. I remember dyneema was not successful. Can some one remind me of what type was the best.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl


Nikimat. I have a question for you

Alan Grayson
 

Hi Alex, you had a post on your website about your aft A/C unit tripping the main GFI on the 220v panel. I am having the same issue. I didn't see on that post if you found out what the problem actually was you just mentioned that the unit did not work. Do you remember what the problem was?

Regards

Alan Grayson

SV Ora Pai SM 406

Ft Lauderdale



Main outhaul rope

Danny Simms
 

Hi All,
A little while ago a number of you posted on replacing the control line for the mainsail out haul. I remember dyneema was not successful. Can some one remind me of what type was the best.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl


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