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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

greatketch@...
 

After hearing about, and seeing several boats, with problems at the attachment between the main boom and the mainsheet, I went back and took an extra careful look at this part on Harmonie.  No evidence of any problem (or any repair) at all.  Having gone looking because I was thinking this was a weak point in the design of the boom, and coming into our boat after it has already completed two circumnavigations, I was fully expecting to find at least a subtle issue I have missed before.

NOT finding it had me wondering: Why?  What could cause a failure of this part, other than normal time and wear?  

Accidental gybes.

I am pretty sure I have said this before, but...  there are two important things to remember.  First, of course, is to use your preventer whenever possible.  It would be nice to say "always" but sometimes you just have a little way to go, and it is a bit of a pain to rig, so...  

The second point, and I think even more critical, is to use the traveler.  

If the traveler is centered, and the boom is eased using only the sheet, it can gain great speed and momentum when it gybes.  The force required to stop it can cause damage in a number of places, and the attachment point of the sheet to the boom is obviously vulnerable. If the traveler is dropped all the way down to the leeward side before easing the mainsheet, even if (when!) a gybe  happens the boom crosses only about to the center line, and the force needed to stop it is greatly reduced, along with the potential for damage.

I know both previous owners of Harmonie were very fussy about using the traveler.  With over 100K miles under her keel, I imagine she has seen more accidental gybes than I have inflicted on her, but with the traveler always down, it isn't nearly as hard on the boat as it might otherwise have been.

I have seen some really ugly things happen as the result of accidental gybes on non-Amel boats. From broken blocks, through broken booms, right on up to dismastings.  Anything that can be done to reduce the forces involved is a good thing.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Mark Erdos
 

Authur,

 

I 100% agree with Steve. We have both SSB + Pactor and Sat-Phone. Redundancy is best if you can afford it.

 

We use a minimal plan on the sat-phone and pay about $60 per month and about $1.50 per minute. We only ever use the phone on extended passages and when the SSB is problematic. To receive a grib file of weather takes about 5 minutes using the phone as a modem for our ships navigation computer. We do not use Iridium Go but use the phone as a data modem connected to the computer. This yields a lot more options for connection. We can lay weather over charts and view it along our planned route using Nobeltec TZ software. We calculated that it is less expensive to use the data and pay as we go rather than pay a higher monthly fee and not use it. It seems we sit still for long periods or have access to wi-fi. The highest bill be have ever had was about $200 using it daily for 2 weeks.

 

I personally prefer the SSB and find it a little faster. Cindy prefers the SSB when she does it.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Aruba

www.creampuff.us

 

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Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

 

 

I pay just under $150/mo with all taxes for unlimited data and texting, and 150 min of sat phone talk time per month. They have less expensive plans, but I don’t like to worry about data usage. 

 

Steve

Aloha SM72


On Nov 10, 2018, at 10:56, Arthur Sundqvist arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Steve!

What is the estimated cost for the Iridium Go per month?

 

Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, Vista



10 nov. 2018 kl. 21:00 skrev Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

We have both, and a Pactor 4 modem.. I like redundancy, and would not be content relying on a sole source. We keep our sail mail account up to date, and generally use the Iridium Go and sail docs for weather. We can use the modem if necessary, but I find the Iridium faster and more reliable. We use Predict Wind as well, but find I get more detailed weather info from sail docs. Predict Wind allows me to get the euro model GRIBS, and sail docs does not. 

Steve Davis

Aloha SM72

Hawaii


On Nov 10, 2018, at 9:41 AM, arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 Do I need both SSB and Satellite phone when going to the Pacific?

You who have only the satellite phone, what does it cos per month to download  the weather every day for predict wind?

You who are really far out there and know a lot what is your suggestion and advice?

 

Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, VISTA

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Stephen Davis
 

I pay just under $150/mo with all taxes for unlimited data and texting, and 150 min of sat phone talk time per month. They have less expensive plans, but I don’t like to worry about data usage. 

Steve
Aloha SM72

On Nov 10, 2018, at 10:56, Arthur Sundqvist arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Steve!

What is the estimated cost for the Iridium Go per month?

Arthur Sundqvist
SM 435, Vista

10 nov. 2018 kl. 21:00 skrev Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

We have both, and a Pactor 4 modem. I like redundancy, and would not be content relying on a sole source. We keep our sail mail account up to date, and generally use the Iridium Go and sail docs for weather. We can use the modem if necessary, but I find the Iridium faster and more reliable. We use Predict Wind as well, but find I get more detailed weather info from sail docs. Predict Wind allows me to get the euro model GRIBS, and sail docs does not. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Hawaii

On Nov 10, 2018, at 9:41 AM, arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 Do I need both SSB and Satellite phone when going to the Pacific?

You who have only the satellite phone, what does it cos per month to download  the weather every day for predict wind?

You who are really far out there and know a lot what is your suggestion and advice?


Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, VISTA





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>
 

Don’t bother.  Most folks just use a dual filter and some, including us, use the RACOR fuel filtering funnel.

Good luck,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007
Opua, NZ

On 8 Nov 2018, at 20:53, mfw642000@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi everyone. I am interested in fitting a day fuel tank in a super maramu and wondering if anyone has ever done this before. I would like to set up a fuel polishing system going to the day tank that would gravity feed to the engine. I was hoping to get another 100 liters of fuel as well.
I am looking at mounting it behind the cockpit drain pipes attached to the aft wall of the engine room.
Feeding the tank with a fass fuel filter and pump. 
Really appreciate any advice 
Michael 251 sm



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] mounting of dual racor filters

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>
 

We have the Racor 7500 dual filters; we believe the natural filtration via the return line is sufficient.

We also take a second precaution:  we have the big Racor funnel filter which is used systematically at all doubtful fuelling spots.

Cheers,


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007
Opua, NZ

On 8 Nov 2018, at 09:46, bazgrayson@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi All, i am changing from the single racor filter to dual racor 500 series filters. 

When i removed the single filter it was mounted on a block of wood that had 2 bolts thru it which seem to be mounted thru the bulkhead.

1; i can't find where the bolt heads are. I do remember reading somewhere that the engine bay is double layer by that i mean the bulkhead then a layer of foam then more plywood then more foam which would explain why i can't find the bolt head.

Can anyone confirm that?

If it is the case then i should be able to screw into that wood to mount the new filter body frame which is considerably bigger with 3" thick mounting blocks which allows me to clear the drain water shutoff valve.

Can anyone confirm this?

Regards

Alan Grayson

SV Ora Pai  SM 406

Ft Lauderdale




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Head Hose

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Gang,

No need for branded products.  A 2 step approach works wonderfully.

1. The deposits in the tube are formed by the interaction of saltwater and human urine mostly.  To alleviate the problem, we have a rule that each passage in the “loos” involve 20 strokes of the refill.  Then flush out.  This ensures that all urine is out of the pipe.

2. Flush with fresh water before going on the hard then pour a gallon of vinegar into the bowl.  Let sit for 1 day.  Then pump out the vinegar.  LET stand for a month or more.  Flush with fresh water.

NEVER have a problem with this practice.

Kind regards,

Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, SM 007
Opua, NZ

On 8 Nov 2018, at 09:11, brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


There had been comments by I believe Bill Kinney & Kent Robertson about a product called Sew Clean, made by the same company that manufacturers Barnacle Buster.  It cleans out the deposits in the black water line.  I used it and it seems to work well.  Try a keyword search for more info or buy a quart and give it a go - so to speak.

Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54-68
Hampton, VA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Arthur Sundqvist
 

Thank you Steve!
What is the estimated cost for the Iridium Go per month?

Arthur Sundqvist
SM 435, Vista

10 nov. 2018 kl. 21:00 skrev Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

We have both, and a Pactor 4 modem. I like redundancy, and would not be content relying on a sole source. We keep our sail mail account up to date, and generally use the Iridium Go and sail docs for weather. We can use the modem if necessary, but I find the Iridium faster and more reliable. We use Predict Wind as well, but find I get more detailed weather info from sail docs. Predict Wind allows me to get the euro model GRIBS, and sail docs does not. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Hawaii

On Nov 10, 2018, at 9:41 AM, arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 Do I need both SSB and Satellite phone when going to the Pacific?

You who have only the satellite phone, what does it cos per month to download  the weather every day for predict wind?

You who are really far out there and know a lot what is your suggestion and advice?


Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, VISTA





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Stephen Davis
 

We have both, and a Pactor 4 modem. I like redundancy, and would not be content relying on a sole source. We keep our sail mail account up to date, and generally use the Iridium Go and sail docs for weather. We can use the modem if necessary, but I find the Iridium faster and more reliable. We use Predict Wind as well, but find I get more detailed weather info from sail docs. Predict Wind allows me to get the euro model GRIBS, and sail docs does not. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Hawaii

On Nov 10, 2018, at 9:41 AM, arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 Do I need both SSB and Satellite phone when going to the Pacific?

You who have only the satellite phone, what does it cos per month to download  the weather every day for predict wind?

You who are really far out there and know a lot what is your suggestion and advice?


Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, VISTA


SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Arthur Sundqvist
 

 Do I need both SSB and Satellite phone when going to the Pacific?

You who have only the satellite phone, what does it cos per month to download  the weather every day for predict wind?

You who are really far out there and know a lot what is your suggestion and advice?


Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, VISTA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowsprit for Super Maramu

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Juan,

Here is what the previous owner did on my vessel.
http://www.nikimat.com/bow_spirit_spinnaker.html

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sat, 11/10/18, jdezulue@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowsprit for Super Maramu
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 10, 2018, 9:54 AM


 









I would like to install a bowsprit for my Super
Maramu in order to improve the performance of my gennaker
and my spinnaker.

Some of you might have already installed this type of
device, could you share with me experience, plan or pictures
.



Many thanks in advance



Juan de Zulueta

Super Maramu year 1990

Ophelie X



jdezulue@orange.fr

+33680895892




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Bowsprit for Super Maramu

Juan de Zulueta
 

I would like to install a bowsprit for my Super Maramu in order to improve the performance of my gennaker and my spinnaker.
Some of you might have already installed this type of device, could you share with me experience, plan or pictures .

Many thanks in advance

Juan de Zulueta
Super Maramu year 1990
Ophelie X

jdezulue@orange.fr
+33680895892


Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

Paul Stascavage
 

Mike,

Glad to hear my information was helpful. Adriene and his daughter Ashley are awesome.

We are currently in Wilmington, NC. We also plan to stop in St Augustine but not sure when. Hopefully we will get a chance to meet.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM 466
Cruising US East Coast

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Salon mod

james Hosford
 

Thanks



On Nov 9, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Mcgovern.denise@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

https://svtourai.com/ has a photo.


Denise 
SM 440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Salon mod

Denise McGovern
 

https://svtourai.com/ has a photo.

Denise 

SM 440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Salon mod

james Hosford
 

Cool,  thanks i wonder if it would be possible to get pictures of his without cushions to see  if a good marine carpenter could duplicate it and make the wood match.   That must be the most custom work I've ever heard of amel doing.    I wondered if the pic saw was his what made me think that it was original work was the brown amel upholstery was used.


On Nov 8, 2018, at 5:49 PM, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

SM #380 TouRai has a traditional looking settee that was done by Amel not the owner.  As I recall, that SM was built for a really tall Dutchman and has a bunch of unique semi-custom features including replacing the loveseat/pull out berth with a more traditional settee.  In the forward cabin the cabinets on either side of the bow thruster are removed and the mattresses actually extend into that area as he also had tall sons.  The main seating area in the salon has square corners, not rounded.  The aftmost bulkhead also was either fully or partially pushed rearward.  


Steve Morrison is the current owner of #380 and he knows the details better than me.  But he's currently in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean on his way to the Caribbean so don't expect an answer from him anytime soon!  Olivier Beaute also knows the story.

Mark McGovern
SM 440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Aft Head Hose

Duane Siegfri
 

Well, much to my surprise an overnight soak in "cleaning vinegar" (apparently a higher concentration) unplugged the hose.  When I cut the wire ties holding the 4 foot of 1" hose extension and aimed it into the shower pan, about two cups of hardened crap (and I mean that literally) emptied out.  After cleaning that mess up with paper towels I hooked the toilet back up and it flushed.  Not as fast as it used to, but immensely improved.  I'm giving it another overnight soak and I'm putting that on the monthly maintenance list.  

Mark, I'm not sure if it's necessary to go to a more aggressive chemical but I'm going to keep your email in case this doesn't solve the problem.

Thanks,
Duane


Re: Aft Head Hose

mfmcgovern@...
 

Duane,

The tube probably should have a bonding wire on it but I don't think that mine do.  The ball valve at the bottom of the hose does have one.

Forget the vinegar.  It won't do anything.  Use Sew Clean.  Here's the link to Bill Kinney's blog post about Sew Clean:  https://fetchinketch.net/2017/12/26/a-crappy-problem-with-a-solution/

I was shocked to see how well it worked.  Given the results Bill showed in that blog post it is now part of our preventative maintenance plan.  I will likely switch to using food grade phosphoric acid as that is the main ingredients in Sew Clean and you can get it for much less than Sew Clean.

Mark McGovern
SM 440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Salon mod

mfmcgovern@...
 

SM #380 TouRai has a traditional looking settee that was done by Amel not the owner.  As I recall, that SM was built for a really tall Dutchman and has a bunch of unique semi-custom features including replacing the loveseat/pull out berth with a more traditional settee.  In the forward cabin the cabinets on either side of the bow thruster are removed and the mattresses actually extend into that area as he also had tall sons.  The main seating area in the salon has square corners, not rounded.  The aftmost bulkhead also was either fully or partially pushed rearward.  

Steve Morrison is the current owner of #380 and he knows the details better than me.  But he's currently in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean on his way to the Caribbean so don't expect an answer from him anytime soon!  Olivier Beaute also knows the story.

Mark McGovern
SM 440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salon mod

 

Wolfgang,

I don't think Amel ever did that, but, I would never say never. 


Best,

CW Bill Rouse,,
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 14:23 Jay Hosford jay.hosford@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Hey Bill,

Just saw a sm that had the salon love seat, cabinets and pull out birth replaced with a traditional settee.   Am i correct that this was never an option and was a mod done by the owner?   I do think it would be more practical than the pull out but it may not be very “Amel” aproved.


On Nov 5, 2018, at 5:31 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Wolfgang,

There are a lot of birds in Deltaville and will surely find your beautiful 54. Other than that, it is a safe place.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 3:22 PM webercardio webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello to the group,
The first days of january I will start the atlantic crossing from Lanzarote via Cape Verde. We hope to sail upnorth to Virginia from the Caribbean sea and leave the boat in Deltaville? From the middle of May  until beginning of August.Then starting upnorth to Newengland or Nova Scotia and return back to Virginia in October, waiting for the next season in the Caribbean sea.
Any recommendations or advices,  safe place to leave the boat ?

Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sailing Caribbean to US

Mark Garver
 

Wolfgang,

The Marina in Deltaville is in a pretty good location, with some good folks there. We are closer by car than boat, we are at the Severn River Yachting Center, just off the Severn River and it is a great place also, a number of live aboard's. There have been a number of SM's in Deltaville, and the price is good for the area. Do check out Severn though, especially if you have anything you want to have done to the boat, the team there is awesome!

Mark and Jennifer Garver
SV It's Good
SM #105
Gloucester, VA

On Nov 05, 2018, at 04:22 PM, "webercardio webercardio@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:

 


Hello to the group,
The first days of january I will start the atlantic crossing from Lanzarote via Cape Verde. We hope to sail upnorth to Virginia from the Caribbean sea and leave the boat in Deltaville? From the middle of May  until beginning of August.Then starting upnorth to Newengland or Nova Scotia and return back to Virginia in October, waiting for the next season in the Caribbean sea.
Any recommendations or advices,  safe place to leave the boat ?

Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162


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