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Re: Aft Head Hose

Drew Gaffney
 

Maybe the best “solution” (pun intended) is to prevent the urate deposits from forming. The original owner, also a physician, cautioned that every flush should last 10 seconds, counted religiously. We’ve followed his instructions and have never had any problems with the heads.
Drew
SY Revelation SM390
Carloforte, Sardinia

Re: Reefing schedule

greatketch@...
 

Alin,

I assume by "reefing schedule" you mean how much you plan to shorten sail at various wind strengths.

When sailing monohulls I have never reefed "by the numbers", but rather used boat speed, heel, and helm balance to tell me I needed to shorten things down. Wind strength, sea state, and point of sail all make it really hard to reduce it to a single simple rule.

But, assuming further, that this is a regulatory requirement for you, I'll give it a go to write down a simple series of rules. These are very approximate, and are assuming you are close hauled, with sails that have good shape and are properly trimmed.  All wind speeds are apparent wind, and are approximate. Reefing percentages are area reduction in the indicated sail from its full size. The sequence is also a bit flexible in practice.  For example, sometimes, rather than take the second reef in the genoa, I'll just put the main away.  

0 to 18 knots  All plain sail.
18  knots Genoa reefed 15%
20  knots  Main reefed 20%
23  knots Genoa reefed 25%
25 knots  Main furled away.
30 knots  Mizzen reefed 20%
35 knots  Genoa reefed 50%

Of course when sailing off the wind, more sail can be carried at any given true wind speed.  My sails have stripes on them giving me an indication of these area reductions so I can repeatably set things like the position of the jib sheet cars.  My genoa has a padded luff so it gives respectable sail shape to about 25% reef.  Reduce it to 50%, and it does start to bag up a bit, and pointing ability starts to fall off.

I am guessing that such a table as above will give the surveyor what he needs to see.

Bill Kinney
Sm160, Harmonie
On the hard, Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA

Reefing schedule

Alin SM 283
 

Hello Amel owners.

I am very close to getting the papers from Maritime NZ for my SM 2k Wanderer, to be able to operate commercially  , ie take people out and pretend I work, :).

Is there any amel SM owner that can help me come up with a reefing schedule for my  surveyor? 

Thank you.

Alin Misescu, SM2k #283, Wanderer.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit enclosure fittings [2 Attachments]

Willem Kroes
 

Thanks Danny. The only thing missing is the piece of metal on the stay where the u-shape has to rest on. May be I can attach a hose clamp.

Kind regards,

Willem

SM#351 KAVANGA

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit enclosure fittings

Willem Kroes
 

Thanks Alexandre for the pictures.

 

Kind regards,

 

Willem

 

SM#351 KAVANGA

 

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Verzonden: zondag 11 november 2018 14:08
Aan: amelyachtowners@...
Onderwerp: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit enclosure fittings

 

 

Good morning Willem,

I had a full cockpit enclosure with the same parts.
Quite frankly I never was fully sure where went where…
It seems the 2 pieces with U shape on one side and little hook on the other were going:
U shape on the shroud (you should have a little round block of metal on the shroud above which that bar will rest) and the Hook on the mizzen (not sure exactly where, on the top, gooseneck, etc.)
If you look closely on the 2nd and 3rd pictures from the bottom you will see for the U shape.
http://www.nikimat.com/bimini.html

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sun, 11/11/18, kavanga@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit enclosure fittings [2 Attachments]
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, November 11, 2018, 6:23 AM


 









Hello fellow Super Maramu
owners,
For the winter period I
changed my new summer cockpit sprayhood for the old vinyl
one I still carry on board. This also for het cockpit
enclosure vinyl pieces I have on board. Some are not much
used. In the garage I found 3 stainless steel bars. One just
fits in and has two identical end fittings welded on. The
other two are smaller and are identical with on each end
different fittings. Obviously these are ment to be used for
the cockpit enclosure. I have no idea where to attach these
bars. I hope that some of you has identical fittings for the
cockpit enclosure and will be so kind to inform me. For this
reason I made 2 pictures of the bars and end
fittings.If you have pictures about the
installation of a similar enclosure, that will be great if
you email these to me.
Best
regards,
Willem
Kroes
SM #351 KAVANGA




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

Danny Simms
 

I always said the SM was the culmination of Henri's design work.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

Alan Leslie
 

It is interesting to note that not all models of Amel boats have this sliding block arrangement. I've seen older Maramus that have welded tangs and I think all the 54s were built that way.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bowsprit for Super Maramu

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Juan,

This was installed by the previous owner and I personally never used it, but I would assume that you need the hook to prevent the bow spirit to go up.

Unfortunately I can not take picture as my vessel was lost last year during Hurricane irma. Therefore, if you look on the following link (which relate to the staysail) and scroll down to the 8 and 9 pictures, then you can see how the hook was secured from the inside.
http://www.nikimat.com/staysail.html

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sun, 11/11/18, jdezulue@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bowsprit for Super Maramu
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, November 11, 2018, 4:28 PM


 









Hi Alexandre,



Many thanks for all those pictures.

Do you always need a hook ?

Do you how the hook is attached to the boat inside?

Can you make a picture?



I have seen a à picture of a bowsprit which was done in
France, it does not seems to need a hook... but I believe if
it is safer to put it.



Many thanks in advance.



Juan de Zulueta



Ophelie X

Re: Bowsprit for Super Maramu

juan de zulueta
 

Hi Alexandre,

Many thanks for all those pictures.
Do you always need a hook ?
Do you how the hook is attached to the boat inside?
Can you make a picture?


I have seen a à picture of a bowsprit which was done in France, it does not seems to need a hook... but I believe if it is safer to put it.



Many thanks in advance.

Juan de Zulueta

Ophelie X

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank

michael winand
 

Thanks Alexandre
I am doing the same as you have recommended. Maybe overkill. But good to know that the fuel in the tank is clean.

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 0:17, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good morning Michael,

On Nikimat, I had 5 x 20 liter Jerry can full of diesel in the lazarette.
My refueling rules (probably over killed) was:
fill up jerry can, then transfer them to main thank through a Baja filter.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sat, 11/10/18, michael winand mfw642000@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Date: Saturday, November 10, 2018, 10:11 PM


 









Thanks Bill.I
am looking at this for a little extra fuel capacity  say
100-120litres and to also be able to get the filtration
system sorted. A
pump system through a large  filter to the day tank. Day
tank over flow back to the main. In
a large seaway I will be more comfortable with knowing that
when the main tank is down to the last 100 liters  I have a
good supply at the day tank. Current
setup has the engine having to suck fuel  as the main 
tank gets down to 1/3 . I
am thinking that gravity feed from above wouldn't
hurt. I
would still have a second set of filters on the day
tank. Regards
Michael 

Sent
from Yahoo7 Mail on Android
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at
14:26, greatketch@...
[amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 









This is really a matter of cruising style and
preference.  Some people feel that a Super Maramu's
installed fuel capacity is not adequate for a world cruising
boat, and others worry about fuel going bad before they use
it.  Neither approach is wrong, it really is a matter of
taste.  Some people fire up the engine anytime boat speed
drops below 5 knots.  Others are perfectly happy drifting
along at 2 knots.  
I
know our boat has already been around the world--TWICE--with
only the factory installed fuel tank.  I decided not to add
complexity--and weight--by changing an obviously successful
design.
Don't
forget, by dropping your speed from 6 knots to 5 knots
you--almost--double your motoring range.  Go to 4 knots and
you--almost--double it again.
I don't have a recommendation on
how to install a day tank, just an observation that it MIGHT
not be the way you want to go.  If you do want to go that
way, I know several people on this forum have, and will have
good ideas on how to do it.
Bill KinneySM160,
HarmonieHollywood Florida,
USA











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank

Alan Leslie
 

We do the same. We have 10 x 20 litre containers in the port side deck locker.
We have never needed to use them and end up putting the fuel in the main tank eventually.
For the last two years I have not filled them and contemplate getting rid of them from time to time!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit enclosure fittings

Danny Simms
 

Hi Willem,
Olivier told me the hook on the ends goes in the ring below the mizzen boom and the u shape clamps around the mizzen side stay. It was a system provided by Amel on later model SM
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 02:07, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good morning Willem,

I had a full cockpit enclosure with the same parts.
Quite frankly I never was fully sure where went where…
It seems the 2 pieces with U shape on one side and little hook on the other were going:
U shape on the shroud (you should have a little round block of metal on the shroud above which that bar will rest) and the Hook on the mizzen (not sure exactly where, on the top, gooseneck, etc.)
If you look closely on the 2nd and 3rd pictures from the bottom you will see for the U shape.
http://www.nikimat.com/bimini.html

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sun, 11/11/18, kavanga@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit enclosure fittings [2 Attachments]
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, November 11, 2018, 6:23 AM


 









Hello fellow Super Maramu
owners,
For the winter period I
changed my new summer cockpit sprayhood for the old vinyl
one I still carry on board. This also for het cockpit
enclosure vinyl pieces I have on board. Some are not much
used. In the garage I found 3 stainless steel bars. One just
fits in and has two identical end fittings welded on. The
other two are smaller and are identical with on each end
different fittings. Obviously these are ment to be used for
the cockpit enclosure. I have no idea where to attach these
bars. I hope that some of you has identical fittings for the
cockpit enclosure and will be so kind to inform me. For this
reason I made 2 pictures of the bars and end
fittings.If you have pictures about the
installation of a similar enclosure, that will be great if
you email these to me.
Best
regards,
Willem
Kroes
SM #351 KAVANGA





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

Danny Simms
 

Hi Bill.
I would have to agree with you, your experience with Harmonie proves it. However Alan of Elyse has a point too, over use of the power of the mainsheet winch by inexperienced crew.  By whatever means a  number of boats have a failure here. Which brings me to your comments about the damage seen on non Amel boats. It would seem Amel has again put a smart design in place, a low cost and high safety weak point. How much better to have the block break off the boom than have the boom break. The block can be reattached temporarily by a line around the boom. A bit hard to replace a boom mid ocean
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at 14:54, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

After hearing about, and seeing several boats, with problems at the attachment between the main boom and the mainsheet, I went back and took an extra careful look at this part on Harmonie.  No evidence of any problem (or any repair) at all.  Having gone looking because I was thinking this was a weak point in the design of the boom, and coming into our boat after it has already completed two circumnavigations, I was fully expecting to find at least a subtle issue I have missed before.


NOT finding it had me wondering: Why?  What could cause a failure of this part, other than normal time and wear?  

Accidental gybes.

I am pretty sure I have said this before, but...  there are two important things to remember.  First, of course, is to use your preventer whenever possible.  It would be nice to say "always" but sometimes you just have a little way to go, and it is a bit of a pain to rig, so...  

The second point, and I think even more critical, is to use the traveler.  

If the traveler is centered, and the boom is eased using only the sheet, it can gain great speed and momentum when it gybes.  The force required to stop it can cause damage in a number of places, and the attachment point of the sheet to the boom is obviously vulnerable. If the traveler is dropped all the way down to the leeward side before easing the mainsheet, even if (when!) a gybe  happens the boom crosses only about to the center line, and the force needed to stop it is greatly reduced, along with the potential for damage.

I know both previous owners of Harmonie were very fussy about using the traveler.  With over 100K miles under her keel, I imagine she has seen more accidental gybes than I have inflicted on her, but with the traveler always down, it isn't nearly as hard on the boat as it might otherwise have been.

I have seen some really ugly things happen as the result of accidental gybes on non-Amel boats. From broken blocks, through broken booms, right on up to dismastings.  Anything that can be done to reduce the forces involved is a good thing.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida

Re: Aft Head Hose

Duane Siegfri
 

The "cleaning vinegar" (it was so labeled) did open the pipe enough to flush it, but not enough to flush easily and it's already plugging up.  I ordered a bottle of "Sew Clean" to see if that works.  

I have had several people tell me they do a monthly overnight vinegar soak of that hose and have had no further problems so maybe the secret is keeping the buildup in check.

Thanks to all for your experience,
Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Michael,

On Nikimat, I had 5 x 20 liter Jerry can full of diesel in the lazarette.
My refueling rules (probably over killed) was:
fill up jerry can, then transfer them to main thank through a Baja filter.

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 11/10/18, michael winand mfw642000@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, November 10, 2018, 10:11 PM


 









Thanks Bill.I
am looking at this for a little extra fuel capacity  say
100-120litres and to also be able to get the filtration
system sorted. A
pump system through a large  filter to the day tank. Day
tank over flow back to the main. In
a large seaway I will be more comfortable with knowing that
when the main tank is down to the last 100 liters  I have a
good supply at the day tank. Current
setup has the engine having to suck fuel  as the main 
tank gets down to 1/3 . I
am thinking that gravity feed from above wouldn't
hurt. I
would still have a second set of filters on the day
tank. Regards
Michael 

Sent
from Yahoo7 Mail on Android
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at
14:26, greatketch@...
[amelyachtowners]<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
 









This is really a matter of cruising style and
preference.  Some people feel that a Super Maramu's
installed fuel capacity is not adequate for a world cruising
boat, and others worry about fuel going bad before they use
it.  Neither approach is wrong, it really is a matter of
taste.  Some people fire up the engine anytime boat speed
drops below 5 knots.  Others are perfectly happy drifting
along at 2 knots.  
I
know our boat has already been around the world--TWICE--with
only the factory installed fuel tank.  I decided not to add
complexity--and weight--by changing an obviously successful
design.
Don't
forget, by dropping your speed from 6 knots to 5 knots
you--almost--double your motoring range.  Go to 4 knots and
you--almost--double it again.
I don't have a recommendation on
how to install a day tank, just an observation that it MIGHT
not be the way you want to go.  If you do want to go that
way, I know several people on this forum have, and will have
good ideas on how to do it.
Bill KinneySM160,
HarmonieHollywood Florida,
USA











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit enclosure fittings [2 Attachments]

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Willem,

I had a full cockpit enclosure with the same parts.
Quite frankly I never was fully sure where went where…
It seems the 2 pieces with U shape on one side and little hook on the other were going:
U shape on the shroud (you should have a little round block of metal on the shroud above which that bar will rest) and the Hook on the mizzen (not sure exactly where, on the top, gooseneck, etc.)
If you look closely on the 2nd and 3rd pictures from the bottom you will see for the U shape.
http://www.nikimat.com/bimini.html

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sun, 11/11/18, kavanga@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cockpit enclosure fittings [2 Attachments]
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, November 11, 2018, 6:23 AM


 









Hello fellow Super Maramu
owners,
For the winter period I
changed my new summer cockpit sprayhood for the old vinyl
one I still carry on board. This also for het cockpit
enclosure vinyl pieces I have on board. Some are not much
used. In the garage I found 3 stainless steel bars. One just
fits in and has two identical end fittings welded on. The
other two are smaller and are identical with on each end
different fittings. Obviously these are ment to be used for
the cockpit enclosure. I have no idea where to attach these
bars. I hope that some of you has identical fittings for the
cockpit enclosure and will be so kind to inform me. For this
reason I made 2 pictures of the bars and end
fittings.If you have pictures about the
installation of a similar enclosure, that will be great if
you email these to me.
Best
regards,
Willem
Kroes
SM #351 KAVANGA

Cockpit enclosure fittings

Willem Kroes
 

Hello fellow Super Maramu owners,


For the winter period I changed my new summer cockpit sprayhood for the old vinyl one I still carry on board. This also for het cockpit enclosure vinyl pieces I have on board. Some are not much used. In the garage I found 3 stainless steel bars. One just fits in and has two identical end fittings welded on. The other two are smaller and are identical with on each end different fittings. Obviously these are ment to be used for the cockpit enclosure. I have no idea where to attach these bars. I hope that some of you has identical fittings for the cockpit enclosure and will be so kind to inform me. For this reason I made 2 pictures of the bars and end fittings.

If you have pictures about the installation of a similar enclosure, that will be great if you email these to me.


Best regards,


Willem Kroes


SM #351 KAVANGA

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Head Hose

INUS - BUSCH
 

Last time I also did an experiment: I took the old incrustinated joker valve in a glass with vinegar essence (via Google it could be called also vinegar concentrate). In German „Essigessenz“. It is a 25 % solution of acetic acid (CAS 64-19-7) in water and much stronger than vinegar. The result: Immediately I could see small bubbles on the surface of the valve (it worked) and after about 30 minutes the bubbling had stopped and the joker valve was like new. One should be careful when using vinegar essence undiluted but it works fantastic. Just my 2 cents.

Dieter
Sharki #135 Fal-lera

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 11.11.2018 um 05:53 schrieb Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

FYI.

When changing discharge hoses, I decided to experiment with some of the solid cristalized urin/saltwater in the old hose. I broke see out and added it to 3 glass jars. One jar had pure vinegar, the 2nd had 50% vinegar and 50% saltwater, the 3rd had 50% vinegar and 50% freshwater.

30 days later - no change
60 days later - no change
90 days later - no change
120 days later - I gave up😀

I believe that positive vinegar solutions to head problems are nothing more than a placebo effect.  

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 22:34 greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

In my experience, it might just take months for a vinegar soak to actually do any good. For those of us who live on our boats 12 months a year, a month long soak is just not a practical solution.  Most boats that get taken out of the water for months, do so because of cold weather.  Leaving vinegar in lines in freezing temperatures is not a good idea.


All the other ideas you suggest are certainly good ones, but again, if you are in a place (like all of the waters of the USA) where discharge of raw sewage is never allowed, it is impractical to flush with enough water to clear the lines every time.  The tank just fills too fast.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida, USA




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Arthur Sundqvist
 

Thank you Mark!
That seems the  way to to go .BOTH.
We are now living in the boat over the winter and have time to fix a lot of things.
The plan is to depart south 1 June 2019.

Kind regards
arthur
Vista SM 435

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Arthur Sundqvist
 

Thanks Steve!
Wich system are you using?
Iridium, Inmarsat or something else?

Kind regards
Arthur
Vista SM 435