Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Assymetric Spinnaker
Erick MEJEAN <maramu@...>
If you are talking about the stock ballooner halyard, it has a proper location to be tied off. On the side near the hauling plates close to the shroud.
As for the additional one as it has not been planed the only way is to tight it on the starboard ramp guard next to the shroud. Erick ----Original Message Follows---- From: kimberlite1212 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Assymetric Spinaker Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 00:15:00 -0000 Erick, i ordered kimberlite with a balooner halyard from amel. they also provided a few rings on the anchor roller to tie off the balooner. where do you tie off the balooner halyard when not in use? thanks eric --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...> wrote: My SM was not fitted with the optional pulley as the more recent SMare.In those days Amel was a bit reluctant to support the use of anassymetric. One way was to use the stock ballooner halyard but this is notrecommended as the halyard will wear very fast by rubbing on the stay.block which is bolted on the mast head. An additional halyard is runningthrough this block, dedicated to the asymmetric. This fitting keeps thehalyard off the stay and prevents any wear out of the halyard by rubbing on thestay. It further makes gibbing very easy as the halyard is kept ahead of thestay In addition I'm using an ATN tacker ( http://www.atninc.com )thisis a very convenient device which helps you to keep the assymetric above 140olike a ballooner and below 80 like a kind of genaker.change drastically your performances specially in light breezes.makes you feel like skipping a 60" open. Taking it down single handed withthe sleeve is of no challenge but requires a bit of preparation and planningbeen fitted onstable cutting.depending on thean > assymetric spinnaker made. Size, shape, overall area, material, _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Assymetric Spinaker
kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
Erick,
i ordered kimberlite with a balooner halyard from amel. they also provided a few rings on the anchor roller to tie off the balooner. where do you tie off the balooner halyard when not in use? thanks eric --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...> wrote: My SM was not fitted with the optional pulley as the more recent SMare.In those days Amel was a bit reluctant to support the use of anassymetric. One way was to use the stock ballooner halyard but this is notrecommended as the halyard will wear very fast by rubbing on the stay.block which is bolted on the mast head. An additional halyard is runningthrough this block, dedicated to the asymmetric. This fitting keeps thehalyard off the stay and prevents any wear out of the halyard by rubbing on thestay. It further makes gibbing very easy as the halyard is kept ahead of thestay In addition I'm using an ATN tacker ( http://www.atninc.com )thisis a very convenient device which helps you to keep the assymetric above 140olike a ballooner and below 80 like a kind of genaker.change drastically your performances specially in light breezes.makes you feel like skipping a 60" open. Taking it down single handed withthe sleeve is of no challenge but requires a bit of preparation and planningbeen fitted onstable cutting.depending on thean > assymetric spinnaker made. Size, shape, overall area, material,
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Factory photos
Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
You can get photos even a video of my SM under construction from my site
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www.almalibre.gr <http://www.almalibre.gr> . Best Regards Dimitris Krassopoulos SM Alma Libre
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From: kimberlite1212 [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 7:33 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Factory photos Does anyone have photos of the sm under construction? I have seen some under the yahoo section of photos but i am interested in any and all additional photos of the boat under construction. thanks eric sm kimberlite To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Assymetric Spinaker
Erick MEJEAN <maramu@...>
My SM was not fitted with the optional pulley as the more recent SM are.In those days Amel was a bit reluctant to support the use of an assymetric. One way was to use the stock ballooner halyard but this is not recommended as the halyard will wear very fast by rubbing on the stay.
I bought a special steel sheet billet from Amel with an additional block which is bolted on the mast head. An additional halyard is running through this block, dedicated to the asymmetric. This fitting keeps the halyard off the stay and prevents any wear out of the halyard by rubbing on the stay. It further makes gibbing very easy as the halyard is kept ahead of the stay In addition I'm using an ATN tacker ( http://www.atninc.com )this is a very convenient device which helps you to keep the assymetric above 140o like a ballooner and below 80 like a kind of genaker. My recommendation is dont hesitate to get an assymetric as it will change drastically your performances specially in light breezes. For your information I use it up to 25 knots of real wind and it makes you feel like skipping a 60" open. Taking it down single handed with the sleeve is of no challenge but requires a bit of preparation and planning Erick ----Original Message Follows---- From: kimberlite1212 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Assymetric Spinaker Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 05:35:12 -0000 erick, did you use the block (pulley) that was supplied by amel? thanks eric sm kimberlite --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...> wrote: Conversely to what you may hear the assymetric is a must on theSM. It is so convenient and efficient. It save you sometimes the hassle ofgearing the ballooner.fitted on the mast head. The existing one is not fit for the job.cutting. It can be used from 80o to 140o off the apparent wind.of 65g/m2. The total area is around 132 m2. This area can fluctuate dependingon the cutting. I believe this is a rather reasonable size, easy tosingle handel. Don't forget the spinaker sleeve which is of the essence and willmake the use of the assymetric very easy. I'm using an ATM sleeve.Moreexpensive than the average sleeves available on the market but so much easy andreliable. With regards to the price I believe that depending on the fabricand the quality it should remain around 25 Euro/m2 ex. VAT. As for thesleeve it should be around 800 Euro ex VATphotos section of this forum _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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Re: Assymetric Spinaker
kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
erick,
did you use the block (pulley) that was supplied by amel? thanks eric sm kimberlite --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...> wrote: Conversely to what you may hear the assymetric is a must on theSM. It is so convenient and efficient. It save you sometimes the hassle ofgearing the ballooner.fitted on the mast head. The existing one is not fit for the job.cutting. It can be used from 80o to 140o off the apparent wind.of 65g/m2. The total area is around 132 m2. This area can fluctuate dependingon the cutting. I believe this is a rather reasonable size, easy tosingle handel. Don't forget the spinaker sleeve which is of the essence and willmake the use of the assymetric very easy. I'm using an ATM sleeve.Moreexpensive than the average sleeves available on the market but so much easy andreliable. With regards to the price I believe that depending on the fabricand the quality it should remain around 25 Euro/m2 ex. VAT. As for thesleeve it should be around 800 Euro ex VATphotos section of this forum
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Factory photos
kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
Does anyone have photos of the sm under construction?
I have seen some under the yahoo section of photos but i am interested in any and all additional photos of the boat under construction. thanks eric sm kimberlite
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Assymetric Spinaker
Erick MEJEAN <maramu@...>
Conversely to what you may hear the assymetric is a must on the SM. It is so convenient and efficient. It save you sometimes the hassle of gearing the ballooner.
Prior to anything you must make sure that a proper pulley has been fitted on the mast head. The existing one is not fit for the job. I'm using an Elvstrom Nucat triradial cutting. It is a very stable cutting. It can be used from 80o to 140o off the apparent wind. The fabric is made of nylon if i'm not mistaken. It has a weight of 65g/m2. The total area is around 132 m2. This area can fluctuate depending on the cutting. I believe this is a rather reasonable size, easy to single handel. Don't forget the spinaker sleeve which is of the essence and will make the use of the assymetric very easy. I'm using an ATM sleeve.More expensive than the average sleeves available on the market but so much easy and reliable. With regards to the price I believe that depending on the fabric and the quality it should remain around 25 Euro/m2 ex. VAT. As for the sleeve it should be around 800 Euro ex VAT I posted a picture of Rigel II flying its two spinakers in the photos section of this forum Erick ----Original Message Follows---- From: galacsea2000 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Assymetric Spinaker Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:17:54 -0000 I would appreciate hearing from Super Maramu owners who have had an assymetric spinnaker made. Size, shape, overall area, material, cost......Thanks JP _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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Assymetric Spinaker
galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
I would appreciate hearing from Super Maramu owners who have had an
assymetric spinnaker made. Size, shape, overall area, material, cost......Thanks JP
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leaking pressure vessel, Bali Hai SM 319
Ian Shepherd <g4ljf@...>
Hi Anne & John,
you are not the only one to have a leak! I had one after just 3 months from new but the warranty replacement has lasted over two years with just a little rust on the outside around the neck. The tank is actually contains a bladder (I think) to smooth the water supply and to allow for expansion when the tank heats up. Why it has to be made of mild steel, is a mystery, but I believe you need to have one in the circuit to allow for expansion. I know it's a messy job, but you might want to remove the immersion heater from the bottom of your hot water tank and check if the magnesium sacrificial anode is still there. It is held by two copper brackets to the copper calorifer tubing. I have replaced mine twice in two years, though to be fair, I did have an installed accessory electrolysis problem that probably speeded up the anode depletion. If you have signs of red coloured hot water, then you anode has gone. The red is dissolved copper! Magnesium anodes are hard to find off the plumbers shelf in this throw away age, but Mon Selo at Amel has plenty. I hope that the new tank lasts a long time. Best Wishes Ian Shepherd SM2 299 "Crusader"
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Re: cutlass bearing removal
milnchris <no_reply@...>
Many thanks for this. Yes a little more brute force and out she
came ... new one installed with no problems. Chris & Millie --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, stargazer41amel <no_reply@y...> wrote: We just used a large pipe wrench and rotated while tapping with ainstalling the new bearing a cake walk. We have installed many cutlassbearings this way! It makes the job easier.
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Re: Visas, etc.
kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
hi,
i don't know much about visas except i have not needed them in france, spain, or italy. I understand the boat has to be ""exported" to get get around the VAT. we sailed to Guernsey ,3 days from la rochelle, and had our papers stamped. i believe we then had 16 months to leave the e/c. i hope this is of some help. eric sm kimberlite --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Bill <itacknjibe@y...> wrote: if you have other suggestions. We have been trying to get the "real info" on what will be required of us if we plan to winter in an EU country (we are US citizens, and the boat will be US flaged) after taking delivery of our SM "Sogno di Mare" in May. We had thought of Spain or Sardinia, but our trips to the consulates of France, Spain, and Italy in San Francisco have produced conflicting reports of requirements. What have other US citizens done about this? I have a pretty good idea about the VAT situation, but it's the need to stay in one location for more than 3 months that seems to be dificult for the consulates to give definitive info on. Any help will be much appreciated.
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Visas, etc.
itacknjibe
I don't know if this is the proper forum, but please re-direct me if you have other suggestions. We have been trying to get the "real info" on what will be required of us if we plan to winter in an EU country (we are US citizens, and the boat will be US flaged) after taking delivery of our SM "Sogno di Mare" in May. We had thought of Spain or Sardinia, but our trips to the consulates of France, Spain, and Italy in San Francisco have produced conflicting reports of requirements. What have other US citizens done about this? I have a pretty good idea about the VAT situation, but it's the need to stay in one location for more than 3 months that seems to be dificult for the consulates to give definitive info on. Any help will be much appreciated.
Bill and Cathy Sogno di Mare --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
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cutlass bearing removal
stargazer41amel <no_reply@...>
We just used a large pipe wrench and rotated while tapping with a
rubber mallet! No problem! Cutlass bearing was changed 6 years earlier. Cover new bearing in dish soap and wrap in tin foil and place in freezer for a couple of days. Keep frozen until ready to install. Unwrap and place on shaft. Being frozen made the ease of installing the new bearing a cake walk. We have installed many cutlass bearings this way! It makes the job easier. Gene & Delores s/v Stargazer hull 132
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Sharki Cutlass bearing
milnchris <no_reply@...>
Hi everyone
We have recently bought Sharki Hull no 24 and are in the process of making her ours!Have revamped the saloon, galley & head and are now onto the underwater. We need to replace the cutlass bearing but can´t seem to remove the old one, have got it turning but it doesn´t want to budge. Would appreciate any advice. Thanks. Regards Chris & Millie
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Meltem & Super Maramu for sale
milnchris <no_reply@...>
Hi Dorian
Yes we´re at RCNP as well. N05 berth 26. But have just lifted out in Arenal for a week or so ... hope to be back in the water next Monday so come round and say hello. Cheers Chris & Millie --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dorian Delanda" <dorian_delanda@h...> wrote: Hi,located at RCNP Palma.
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1993 Santorin for Sale
galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
She has been maintained with TLC. You will see all info at
http://users.starpower.net/jphjph email me for additional info JP
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Leaking pressure vessel, Bali Hai SM 319
John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@compuserve.com> <hollamby@...>
For many months we have had a whistling sound when running water but
it was not audible when the freshwater pump started. The cause was a tiny leak from a hole in the pressure vessel located outboard of the hot water cylinder. This is made of steel and connected to the system through a brass elbow and copper pipe. The vessel was badly corroded and a temporary repair made by grinding off the paint around the hole and applying several coats of Araldite. An identical pressure vessel was bought for 11 pounds sterling in Malta from a shop supplying pumps etc for irrigation and we fitted it with a plastic elbow between it and the brass/copper fittings. The problem was,I assume,caused by electrolitic reaction. There is a 2 litre stainless vessel on top of the freshwater pump and the one behind the hot water calorifier is 5 litres. I suppose its function is to cope with water expanding whilst it is being heated although there was only one vessel in the water system on my last boat,an Oyster.It was one of the few things that never gave trouble in nine years of liveaboard cruising. Does anyone know whether this second tank is actually needed and does it have to be so big as stainless tanks are only available here in 2 or 20 litre capacities. Anne & John Hollamby
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Self-Stearing for EUROS 41
Szabo Geza <szabog@...>
Hi Sylvia,
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on my euros 41 I have an external belt driven autopilot mounted by the steering wheel. However it coul be possible to install an autopilot over the sink, inder the cover. If you figure out anything, please, let us know, because I would rather use this kind of setup. Cheers Geza
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From: mizzie302002 [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:44 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Self-Stearing for EUROS 41 Hello there, we have to install a self stearing sytem on our Amel Euros 41 (built in 1976) - is anybody out there to share experience with us to give some advice? I wrote to Amel and they told me I have to find one that fits - really. I understand, we don't have a new ship. But maybe there is somebody with some knowledge. That really helps us greatings from the EXPO-City Hannover in Germany Sylvia To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Self-Stearing for EUROS 41
Knipping-Werbung@...
Hello there,Hallo Euros-Genossen (oder seid Ihr wirklich englischsprachig?), ich bin mit 3 anderen an einem Schiff wie dem Ihren beteiligt. Die Aella ist noch etwas aelter. Was wirklich supergut funktioniert an dem Schiff, ist gerade der Autopilot. Es ist ein "Bordcomputer" von Autohelm (Typ ST 7000) - gekoppelt mit Sumlog, Anemometer und Windlupe. Weil das gute Stueck in Griechenland ist, habe ich hier keine weiteren Unterlagen zur Hand. Der Antrieb selbst ist fest eingebaut in der Wand hinter dem Ruderrad oberhalb der Spuele. Unter dem Salonboden sitzt ein Geber (Kompass), der verbunden ist mit dem Elektromotor ueber der Spuele, der direkt den Seilzug des Ruders antreibt. Im Armaturenbrett ist neben den Windinstrumenten und dem Log ein Display angebracht, an dem auch die Bedienungsknoepfe sitzen. Seitlich neben dem Ruderrad ist ein Knopf, mit dem man den Antrieb einkuppelt und das Ruderrad arretiert. Wovon absolut abzuraten ist, sind Geraete, die aussen unter dem Ruderrad angebracht werden und selbiges ueber einen Riemen drehen. Das ist wirklich Schrott und funktioniert so gut wie nie, weil der Riemen sich dehnt und durchdreht oder aber reisst und weil das ganze eigentlich immer unterdimensioniert ist und staendig im Weg ist. -- Martin
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48' Amel Maramu 1985 for sale
Joe
For sale and the owner is motivated! Everything on this boat is in
excellent condition and works perfectly. The forward stateroom is fitted with a vee berth with lockers above and outboard on each side. To starboard and aft is a large cedar lined hanging locker. Port is a head compartment with sink, marine toilet, shower and storage bins outboard. Moving aft is the salon with an "L" shaped settee to port with lockers outboard. Under the settee is a built in Frigiboat electric freezer. On centerline is a large table with bottle storage and folding leaves. On starboard is a settee/berth with outboard lockers. The galley occupies the aft bulkhead from the companionway to the port quarter of the salon area and is fitted with; * Hot & cold pressurized water * New Force Ten propane two burner stove with oven * Xintex S-2A propane sensor * New Front loading refrigerator * Double Stainless sinks * Numerous lockers and drawers for storage of utensils and stores On the starboard side of the companionway is the large chart/nav station with fitted electronics and storage in the table and under A passageway leads aft on the starboard side. This leads to the owners private area with a large cedar lined hanging locker, desk/make up table, lounging settee, double berth and overhead lockers for storage port and starboard. There is an ensuite head with sink,new marine head, shower and storage bins. Electronics Raytheon Raysat 200 Sat Nav Raytheon Raynav 590 GPS Reciever Brookes & Gatehouse Hornet 4 Windspeed at nav with repeater in cockpit Paper graph recordind ship barometer VDO brass ships clock Marco Polo ships compass ICOM 770 SSB radio Furuno Radar (with cockpit mount) New battery Monitor Raytheon 550 Loran C Garmin GPS in cockpit Brookes & Gatehouse Hecta Depth moniter with repeater in cockpit Weems & Plath brass ships barometer Ltton EPIRB Standard Horizon VHF radio Neco Autopilot New battery selector switch Electrical New West Marine WC40 Battery Monitor 2 Solar panels (mounted on hard dodger) Volt and ampmeter True Charge 40+ multi stage battery charger VDO hour meter for engine Prop driven cruising generator Sails & Rigging A ketch rig with aluminum masts and booms and SS standing rigging. There is electric roller furling on the main and jib controlled for the safety of the cockpit. The mizzen is rolled out manually. Winches include; (2) Lewmar #48cst primaries, (3) #16cst & (1) #30cst mounted on the mizzenmast, (2) #40cst & (2) #30cst mounted on the mainmast. Genoa tracks are adjustable using a winch handle from the cockpit. Amel system spinnaker and reaching poles mounted on forward deck with tracks and extensions. All sails are reported to be in good condition and include; Mainsail 2nd jib for wing on wing Jib Deck Hull and decks non-skid (simulated teak) were repainted. Electric anchor windlass CQR anchor w/200 ft chain Outboard motor lift Cockpit cushions New dodger windows installed Boarding ladder/med tie ramp Hard dodger fly to shade cockpit Horseshoe bouy Rail mounted SS BBQ Additional Many systems have been refurbed and replaced over the past year such. All winches cleaned and relubed, main & jib motors refurbed, Espar heater refurbed, fuel polished, prop driven cruising generator refurbed, etc. The current owners have maintained Elysium in top condition. The following items were replaced in the last year. Hot water heater & plumbing Heads, plumbing & holding tanks Solar panels Cedar lining in closets Sink faucets in galley Remote spotlight on Mizzenmast Lifelines Bilge pump Saltwater pump Windshields on hard dodger 110 panel & associated wiring Engine room blowers Fresh water pump Sink and shower fixtures in aft head Sail UV covers Dodger covers New running rigging (partial) New plumbing (partial) If you have any questions please feel free to contact me. Best, Joe Cooper Bower and Kling Yachts (858)699-3506 mrcooper@san.rr.com
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