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Re: Genoa sheet sizing
John Clark
Miles,
I purchased Annie with 16mm genoa sheets fastened to the sail with a cowhitch/larkshead. I replaced the sheet shortly after purchase and found the knot was rock solid...no chance it would slip at all. After an hour with a marlinspike I gave up and cut the knot. I used a cowhitch/larkshead on the new line and it held fine, no slipage. I untied the know after a year because I didn't like the way the line looked like it was bending as it left the knot under load. I cut the line and used two bowlines, which I still have now. The bowlines do seem to catch on the forward lower shrouds and if the sail is allowed to flog during a tack the weight of the two knots seems to make things worse. Take home message: cowhitch is smother, does not seem to slip once set, but I am concerned about concentrating force on a small point of the line. Bowlines seem to spread the stress across a larger area of the rope, won't slip and have the benefit of being two separate sheets in the event of a failure near the knot/sail. Regards, John SV Annie SM37 Le Marin Martinique
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gearbox
Hi Eric, My boat, #351, has an Autoprop and a shaft brake. With the boat on the hard and servicing the prop, how to get the brake off for a while? Willem Kroes SY KAVANGA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa sheet sizing
Cow hitches have a tendency to slip if the pull isn't even. eg if you spend a long time on one tack in reasonable breeze, you'll probably end up with one sheet longer than the other.
Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gearbox
eric <kimberlite@...>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gearbox
Hi Heinz,
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As Eric notes, some more information would help. By "gearbox" can we assume you mean the "C" drive (not the transmission gearbox)? Where is the oil-water mixture leaking from? - around the propeller shaft? -from the outside of the wearing out bushing? - from the drain plug? from the front of the "C" drive lower unit? from the upper seals where the drive shaft enters in the engine room? Is the oil milky? With no shaft brake, that's obviously not the problem, but is the transmission in neutral? Does the propeller turn when you start the engine and put it in gear? Cheers, Craig SN68 ---In amelyachtowners@..., <heinz@...> wrote : Hello and thanks for the answer.
I have a folding propeller but no brake Heinz Am 20.11.2018 09:35 schrieb "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa sheet sizing
smiles bernard
Thanks Craig and thanks Bill
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Very helpful I definitely want to go for a single long line with a cow hitch /larks head attachment to the clew Turns out I’m in a place that only has 14mm line so unless I wait that’s that decision taken care of! Many thanks Miles
On 20 Nov 2018, at 15:29, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gearbox
Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...>
Hello and thanks for the answer.
I have a folding propeller but no brake Heinz Am 20.11.2018 09:35 schrieb "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Salon mod
Steve Morrison <steve_morrison@...>
I can tell you that my SM 380 TouRai, was built with a full length settee in place of the loveseat, end table configuration. This boat was built with several factory built differences for a legacy buyer who was quite tall.
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All the best, Steve Morrison SM 380 TouRai BVI
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Re: Adding weight to the bow
Just do what the power boaters do and add lead forward, or in the starboard hanging locker (where you might also keep your tools.) And/or add another 1 or 2 hundred feet of chain. Don't know if you've got a fixed bimini over the cockpit but if so that could be an alternate solar panel location, eliminating the arch.
Good luck with it. Craig SN68 ---In amelyachtowners@..., <ericmeury@...> wrote : This has been going on sometime and seem to be a "common problem" but my santorin is ass heavy and we made the issue worse last year when we added 4 L16 batteries to the engine room and installed the hydrovane. We want to add an Arch mainly for getting the solar panels off the deck behind the mast since we have a new crew member. The fwd head thru hull is pretty much fully exposed our of the water about an inch. We have the rocna 33kg mounted on the bow with 190 feet of chain. and a the original CQR sitting in the the stb fwd locker. Spare parts are mid ship under the birth and the passage way to the aft cabin carries the tools. I do plan on moving those to the forward hanging locker. What else an be done? Looking for ideas before we add the arch
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Re: Genoa sheet sizing
Here's an appealing way with a soft shackle: Or just form a loop in the middle of a single long line, put it through the clew cringle and pass the rest of the line through that, pulling snug. Hard to remove (mine's been on for seasons) but no hangups. No seizing needed. And 14mm should be fine. Cheers, Craig SN68 ---In amelyachtowners@..., <smilesbernard@...> wrote : Hi there My Genoa sheets need replacing Currently I have 16mm polyester they don’t run too well through the cars, the bowlines tend to get hung up on the lower fwd shrouds when tacking etc. So am considering other options - a single long line with a single alpine butterfly knot to reduce hangups on the shrouds My older/vintage Maramu Genoa is I believe around 60m sq. and I’m also wondering if I can move down to 14mm good quality sheets to reduce friction in the cars Thoughts and experience most appreciated. All the very best Miles
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Re: Resealing fixed portlights
cpp_berkeley <no_reply@...>
Update: it was pretty easy to do, just a bit time consuming.
Use a utility knife around the edges of the arcylic/GRP portlight flange and slowly open it up. We put small wedges to hold a gap between the acrylic and GRP to ease further cutting. The thickness of the GRP means there is very little risk of breaking the lens, IMO. Being that it's silicone, the sealant released quite easily with a little leverage once you got far enough around. Once it was off, the real work began. We spent a lot of time cleaning off the old silicone with a wood chisel to get the big pieces off. Then it was fingernails and rubbing with your fingers. A trick I learned was to rub a flour/water paste on the surfaces to highlight any small areas you may have missed. The flour sticks to the silicone and makes it very apparent what you have missed! Final cleanse with microfiber and rubbing alcohol and then apply a LOT of silicone (most of a 300ml tube) and screw the lens back on, using opposite corners. I asked Olivier if we needed to let the silicone set a bit to avoid it all squeezing out when you tighten the 8 screws, but he said that Amel screws it down immediately to fill all the gaps and we should do the same. :) I considered using Sika 291i but found that a lot of those adhesive/sealants are not compatible with acrylic. We could have used Sika 295 UV, but the preparation was far more involved and the seal would fail unless it's done perfectly. If silicone was good enough for the Amel Shipyard, it's good enough for me! Ps - I didn't bother taping the lens or the outside of the portlight opening. Silicone doesn't really stick well to either, so getting off the excess was quite easy. PPS - When I was asking around for tips on doing it, the other boat owners who looked at the portlight said the same thing most people say when they see my Amel up close: "Wow, they made that really robust!" Hope this helps someone... -Scott Amel 54 #69 Tengah
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gearbox
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Hi Heinz, Do you have an autoprop with a disk brake on the shaft? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:35 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gearbox
hello,
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Gearbox
heinz@...
hello,
After 5 months in the drydock in Panama I noticed that an Oel-water mixture was leaking out of the gearbox. I had the seals and the oil changed by Amel in Martinique a year ago. Now I can't turn the propeller by hand. Is that normal or does anyone know what to do? I am grateful for every suggestion. All the best Heinz Amel SM200, 292
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Re: Genoa sheet sizing
greatketch@...
Miles,
Harken has a quick and dirty online calculator for expected sail loads as a function of wind strength here: The tough part is extending that number to a line size. Lines are all rated in breaking strength, and translating that to a maximum safe working load isn't so straightforward. New England Ropes suggests that a safe Working Load Limit 1/5 to 1/12 of the breaking strength of the line. A range so wide as to not be a lot of help. Being very conservative, and assuming you carry full 60m^2 of sail in winds of 30 knots, and then reef after that, 14mm looks strong enough to carry the loads without exceeding a reasonable WLL. It will of course stretch a bit more than 16mm, and then will have less reserve strength as the cover chafes. I attach my sheets to the head sail with a simple larkshead. With polyester double braid line it does not slip, and slides past standing rigging without a thought. The downside is that after sailing a few thousand miles is is REALLY hard to untie. It can be undone with a hammer and a bit of patience (or a knife)... We use 16mm headsail sheets on our SM, and have found no incentive to change that, but of course our turning blocks and cars might be different, and your genoa is a bit smaller. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA Back in the water tomorrow! Yeah! ---In amelyachtowners@..., <smilesbernard@...> wrote : Hi there My Genoa sheets need replacing Currently I have 16mm polyester they don’t run too well through the cars, the bowlines tend to get hung up on the lower fwd shrouds when tacking etc. So am considering other options - a single long line with a single alpine butterfly knot to reduce hangups on the shrouds My older/vintage Maramu Genoa is I believe around 60m sq. and I’m also wondering if I can move down to 14mm good quality sheets to reduce friction in the cars Thoughts and experience most appreciated. All the very best Miles
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Re: Diaphragm Bilge Pump failure.
Duane Siegfri
Thanks Bill, much appreciated!
Duane Wanderer, SM#477
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Genoa sheet sizing
smiles bernard
Hi there
My Genoa sheets need replacing Currently I have 16mm polyester they don’t run too well through the cars, the bowlines tend to get hung up on the lower fwd shrouds when tacking etc. So am considering other options - a single long line with a single alpine butterfly knot to reduce hangups on the shrouds My older/vintage Maramu Genoa is I believe around 60m sq. and I’m also wondering if I can move down to 14mm good quality sheets to reduce friction in the cars Thoughts and experience most appreciated. All the very best Miles
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Diaphragm Bilge Pump failure.
Bill,
Very impressed! I spent days searching the internet for one of these a couple of years ago and never did find one.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff www.creampuff.us
From: amelyachtowners@...
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 11:52 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Diaphragm Bilge Pump failure.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:45 AM Stephen Morrison steve_morrison@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Adding weight to the bow
ericmeury@...
This has been going on sometime and seem to be a "common problem" but my santorin is ass heavy and we made the issue worse last year when we added 4 L16 batteries to the engine room and installed the hydrovane. We want to add an Arch mainly for getting the solar panels off the deck behind the mast since we have a new crew member.
The fwd head thru hull is pretty much fully exposed our of the water about an inch. We have the rocna 33kg mounted on the bow with 190 feet of chain. and a the original CQR sitting in the the stb fwd locker. Spare parts are mid ship under the birth and the passage way to the aft cabin carries the tools. I do plan on moving those to the forward hanging locker. What else an be done? Looking for ideas before we add the arch
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Diaphragm Bilge Pump failure.
Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School http://www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:45 AM Stephen Morrison steve_morrison@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Diaphragm Bilge Pump failure.
Duane, See this connector: https://www.heatpumps4pools.com/pool-equipment/pipes-fittings/hose-connector-1.5-38mm-to-1.25-32mm I have not found another source, but this is probably exactly what you need along with a short piece of 1 1/4" or 32mm hose Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School http://www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
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