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Re: Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

Ian Park
 

Ian
I presume you have dropped the motor/gearbox unit and checked that the furler operates with the winch handle?
If you have also checked that the motor runs when disconnected from the gearbox, then the gearbox is the problem. If the motor does turn the gearbox then the gears have stripped. If it just jams, then the gearbox is seized. If either of these, get two new gearboxes, because the outhaul one will be in a similar condition.
I bought 2 Bonfiglios last year and replaced them both. They are a simple right angle gear drive.
Do have a look in the Amel Owners archives. There are photos of disassembly of both types of gearbox Amel used, but I believe they are not interchangeable. Alex (Nikimat) did a direct comparison of both Bonfiglio and Leroy Summers gearboxes to show the differences.
The furler gearbox is simple to change, although I did need a hydraulic press to get the drive shaft out of it. The outhaul gearbox removal was a bigger problem, and Amel Martinique removed the boom to take it to their workshop for removal.
The Bonfiglio gearbox comes filled with grease (sealed for life). Amel separated the one they fitted for me, cleaned it out and refilled it with hypoid 90 gearbox oil. There are discussion topics on grease v oil and the installation of grease nipples to renew whichever lubricant you decide on as a routine service item.

In UK I paid less than £200 for each gearbox. It seems they are readily obtainable. My suggestion would be to order two, even if you can free up the existing ones. And do follow the advice of other Amelians who have experienced the replacement process - take the Anderson line tender off the outhaul gearbox every year and regrease the shaft and woodruff key - otherwise even a sledgehammer won’t move it! (I watched Amel try!).

Good luck

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel54 SSB installation

 

Here are some answers to get you started. I will give you more complete answers tomorrow as I am traveling today. I'll also send you directly a few photos tomorrow. 

need to disconnect the ground  cable from the SSB power contacts behind the lower charttable sidepanel. Yes. It is labeled BLU. You need to disconnect the yellow/green twisted 2 wires from the block. Without an SSB (BLU) these wires connect the ground plates to Amel Bonding.



where can i pick up the ground cable from the groundplate, to ground the antenne tuner? and should this of the flat rass type ? There is a copper foil from the ground plate ending inside the starboard side of the aft lazerette.

is the isolated antenne cable between the masts suitable for the SSB ? No. It is not. Wrong length and the antenna needs to be very close to the antenna tuner.

what anttenne is used for SSB,  isolated backstay of mizzen mast , or stand alone 6m flex rod type? All or any will work.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, 19:45 j.jeltes@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Hi all ,  fellow Amel owners. Since recently i am proud owner of Fidelis an Amel54 2009.

I am preparing her for paticipating ARC+2019. and decided to install a SBB radio.

The boat is prepared and has a pre-installed groundplate, yet there is no wiring diagramm information of available cabling.  Sadly SAV of chantier Amels has verly little information , apart from i need to disconnect the ground  cable from the SSB power contacts behind the lower charttable sidepanel.

Surely more owners must have gone through this trouble,  so anybody can give me advice is very welcome.

i am struggling with the following questions ?

where can i pick up the ground cable from the groundplate, to ground the antenne tuner? and should this of the flat rass type ?

is the isolated antenne cable between the masts suitable for the SSB ?

what anttenne is used for SSB,  isolated backstay of mizzen mast , or stand alone 6m flex rod type?

perhaps there is anybody who can give directions how to install the system.

( i have contacted local professionals yet these guys do not know this boat and want to start from scratch)

Jeroen  Jeltes
 Amsterdam.




Re: Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

greatketch@...
 

Ian,

Have you tried running the motor disconnected from the gearbox to be sure that the problem is not something jammed on the mechanical end?

If the brushes are good, AND the armature is free to turn, AND there is power... it might need rewinding or the commutator might be the problem-even if it looks good.  When you changed the brushes did you test the commutator with an ohm meter for open circuits or shorts?

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA


Re: Amel54 SSB installation

danielmfrey63@...
 

Hello
Last year I installed an Icom M801E on my Santorin. The M801 is a great device and a true marine (M = Marine) transceiver class E (E = class E).
Benefits: long range voice and data communications to multiple users, DSC for emergencies, etc. The device can even be "unlocked" and be turned in a true HAM station, what opens up the universe of HAM users all over the world. Lost in sea you can always talk to someone... :-)
Installation: I would check what preinstallations are available on your boat: direct battery connection, security switch, grounding plates for grounding, mounting for a wip antenna, etc. Then decide what else is necessary and make an installation plan. Position for the transceiver: on my boat I had it first inside the navigation table, now it below the navigation table, to get more space.
Antennas: The M801E has 2 receivers built in: one is for transmitting and receiving voice or data; the second constantly monitors the DSC frequencies. I installed a whip antenna for transmitting and receiving and use the triatric stay for the DSC watch, as this antenna is for receiving only. AMEL recommends the whip antenna for several reasons. However, there are advantages and disadvantages with each type of installation.
Legal stuff: HF radio users need a LRC (long range certificate) and need to pass an exam in most countries to get it; as a HAM user you would have also to pass an even more elaborated exam. Check the legal situation in your country.
Support and shopping: www.yachtcom.uk or www.yachtfunk.com
Options: Adding a Pactor modem enables you to send and receive emails and weather data. And become a member of www.sailmail.com
Iridium: Again, each system has its advantages and disadvantes. Experienced sailors recommend to get both, if you can afford it.
FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/SSB.Net/
Good luck - Daniel


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Danny,
Actually it's a little different than your engine alternator. That does indeed have a direct 12v excitation wire that energizes when you turn the key on. On the Onan (or other gensets), the AC generation is dependent on having a residual magnetism begin the excitation process.  There isn't a separate 12v battery circuit. The residual magnetism can be lost with a long period of non-use, a shock load on the system that kills the engine, which is likely Heinz's case, our faulty brushes.
Cheers, Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailorman.ds@...> wrote :

Hi Heinz,

It is the same way as your engine mounted alternators have to be excited. Properly wired it happens when you turn the start key on. I guess it should work the same with the gen set. With your alternator if the exciting circuit is faulty the excitation can occur by reving your engine. This result tells you the alternator is OK and it is the excitation circuit where the fault lies. So perhaps your problem is in the excitation circuit

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl


On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 09:17, 'Stutenbaeumer.Berlin' heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks fore the anther but how do I re-flash a generator?

Heinz



Am 29.11.2018 um 10:41 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Heinz,


I believe your Onan has a "No AC Output" shutdown switch that would shut it down as you describe. 
With any luck, you may simply have to re-flash the generator to solve the problem. 

If that doesn't work you'll want to check the circuitry on the generator for winding continuity, resistance through the brushes, etc. (I assume you have fixed the short circuit, of course, and checked breakers.)

Let us know what you find.
Cheers, Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <mcerdos@...> wrote :

Heinz,

 

I think you are dealing with a couple of issues.

 

Since you had an electrical short did you check the master circuit breaker on the generator?

 

Is the fuel supply sufficient? Are you getting enough fuel from the electric pump? Is the fuel clean? The most common cause of a diesel engine shutting down once it has started is lack of fuel. Believe it or not, it is very hard to stop a running diesel engine.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

 

Hello
I would have yesterday with Onan generator switched on a short circuit in an electric line.
Then the generator went out.
The generator starts since then briefly, then goes out however immediately again.
Only if I increase the speed of the generator manually after the start, it remains on, but does not generate electricity.
Somebody knows advice.
I am grateful for each suggestion
Heinz
Super Maramu 2000, 292 Panama


[Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

Danny Simms
 

Hi Heinz,

It is the same way as your engine mounted alternators have to be excited. Properly wired it happens when you turn the start key on. I guess it should work the same with the gen set. With your alternator if the exciting circuit is faulty the excitation can occur by reving your engine. This result tells you the alternator is OK and it is the excitation circuit where the fault lies. So perhaps your problem is in the excitation circuit

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl


On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 09:17, 'Stutenbaeumer.Berlin' heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks fore the anther but how do I re-flash a generator?

Heinz



Am 29.11.2018 um 10:41 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Heinz,


I believe your Onan has a "No AC Output" shutdown switch that would shut it down as you describe. 
With any luck, you may simply have to re-flash the generator to solve the problem. 

If that doesn't work you'll want to check the circuitry on the generator for winding continuity, resistance through the brushes, etc. (I assume you have fixed the short circuit, of course, and checked breakers.)

Let us know what you find.
Cheers, Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Heinz,

 

I think you are dealing with a couple of issues.

 

Since you had an electrical short did you check the master circuit breaker on the generator?

 

Is the fuel supply sufficient? Are you getting enough fuel from the electric pump? Is the fuel clean? The most common cause of a diesel engine shutting down once it has started is lack of fuel. Believe it or not, it is very hard to stop a running diesel engine.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

 

Hello
I would have yesterday with Onan generator switched on a short circuit in an electric line.
Then the generator went out.
The generator starts since then briefly, then goes out however immediately again.
Only if I increase the speed of the generator manually after the start, it remains on, but does not generate electricity.
Somebody knows advice.
I am grateful for each suggestion
Heinz
Super Maramu 2000, 292 Panama


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

Craig Briggs
 

Hi again, Heinz,

I just stumbled across a technique to flash your generator that I had not seen before. Nor have I tried it but it sounds like fun and just might solve your problem..

Plug an electric drill into an outlet after you set all switches/breakers so the outlet would be energized if the generator were working. Start the generator (keep it running with the preheat switch or jumper the shut-down relay). With the drill switched to "forward", pull the trigger, which, of course, won't do anything because your Onan is not making electricity. Now, spin the drill backwards by hand, while holding the trigger on.  This will generate a small current which will "flash" the generator. If it works the drill will start to spin forwards, so be careful.

Let us know!
Cheers,
Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <sangaris@...> wrote :

Hi Heinz,

It is very easy, but I would suggest you "google" it on a site in your native language. Basically it is putting 12v across the coils to excite the generating circuit. There are many "U" tube expanations, too.

Good luck with it,
Craig


---In amelyachtowners@..., <heinz@...> wrote :

Thanks fore the anther but how do I re-flash a generator?
Heinz



Am 29.11.2018 um 10:41 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Heinz,


I believe your Onan has a "No AC Output" shutdown switch that would shut it down as you describe. 
With any luck, you may simply have to re-flash the generator to solve the problem. 

If that doesn't work you'll want to check the circuitry on the generator for winding continuity, resistance through the brushes, etc. (I assume you have fixed the short circuit, of course, and checked breakers.)

Let us know what you find.
Cheers, Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <mcerdos@...> wrote :

Heinz,

 

I think you are dealing with a couple of issues.

 

Since you had an electrical short did you check the master circuit breaker on the generator?

 

Is the fuel supply sufficient? Are you getting enough fuel from the electric pump? Is the fuel clean? The most common cause of a diesel engine shutting down once it has started is lack of fuel. Believe it or not, it is very hard to stop a running diesel engine.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

 

Hello
I would have yesterday with Onan generator switched on a short circuit in an electric line.
Then the generator went out.
The generator starts since then briefly, then goes out however immediately again.
Only if I increase the speed of the generator manually after the start, it remains on, but does not generate electricity.
Somebody knows advice.
I am grateful for each suggestion
Heinz
Super Maramu 2000, 292 Panama


Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

Ian Townsend
 

Our main furler is inoperable. We've started to troubleshoot at the motor. Replaced the brushes and cleaned up the commutator. There's power at the breaker and the wires leading into the motor. No luck yet. Would anyone have a schematic, preferably in English, for the unit. Its a Bonfiglioli.


Other suggestions appreciated..Merci. Grazie.


Ian

SM153

Loca Lola II

George Town, Exuma, Bahamas


Amel54 SSB installation

Jeroen jeltes
 

Hi all ,  fellow Amel owners. Since recently i am proud owner of Fidelis an Amel54 2009.

I am preparing her for paticipating ARC+2019. and decided to install a SBB radio.

The boat is prepared and has a pre-installed groundplate, yet there is no wiring diagramm information of available cabling.  Sadly SAV of chantier Amels has verly little information , apart from i need to disconnect the ground  cable from the SSB power contacts behind the lower charttable sidepanel.

Surely more owners must have gone through this trouble,  so anybody can give me advice is very welcome.

i am struggling with the following questions ?

where can i pick up the ground cable from the groundplate, to ground the antenne tuner? and should this of the flat rass type ?

is the isolated antenne cable between the masts suitable for the SSB ?

what anttenne is used for SSB,  isolated backstay of mizzen mast , or stand alone 6m flex rod type?

perhaps there is anybody who can give directions how to install the system.

( i have contacted local professionals yet these guys do not know this boat and want to start from scratch)

Jeroen  Jeltes
 Amsterdam.




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santa Marta Colombia

eric freedman
 

Hi Mark,

We might be heading your way after the New Year.

Please stay in touch.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

Kimberlite@...

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santa Marta Colombia

 

 

Hi Eric,

 

Not since we have been here. So far all is good. We plan to be here for a couple of months.

 

Hope you are doing well.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 5:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santa Marta Colombia

 

 

Hi Cream Puff,

Is there still a lot of coal dust coming from the loading station across  the harbor?

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santa Marta Colombia

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Eric,

 

Not since we have been here. So far all is good. We plan to be here for a couple of months.

 

Hope you are doing well.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 5:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santa Marta Colombia

 

 

Hi Cream Puff,

Is there still a lot of coal dust coming from the loading station across  the harbor?

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Heinz,

It is very easy, but I would suggest you "google" it on a site in your native language. Basically it is putting 12v across the coils to excite the generating circuit. There are many "U" tube expanations, too.

Good luck with it,
Craig


---In amelyachtowners@..., <heinz@...> wrote :

Thanks fore the anther but how do I re-flash a generator?
Heinz



Am 29.11.2018 um 10:41 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Heinz,


I believe your Onan has a "No AC Output" shutdown switch that would shut it down as you describe. 
With any luck, you may simply have to re-flash the generator to solve the problem. 

If that doesn't work you'll want to check the circuitry on the generator for winding continuity, resistance through the brushes, etc. (I assume you have fixed the short circuit, of course, and checked breakers.)

Let us know what you find.
Cheers, Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <mcerdos@...> wrote :

Heinz,

 

I think you are dealing with a couple of issues.

 

Since you had an electrical short did you check the master circuit breaker on the generator?

 

Is the fuel supply sufficient? Are you getting enough fuel from the electric pump? Is the fuel clean? The most common cause of a diesel engine shutting down once it has started is lack of fuel. Believe it or not, it is very hard to stop a running diesel engine.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

 

Hello
I would have yesterday with Onan generator switched on a short circuit in an electric line.
Then the generator went out.
The generator starts since then briefly, then goes out however immediately again.
Only if I increase the speed of the generator manually after the start, it remains on, but does not generate electricity.
Somebody knows advice.
I am grateful for each suggestion
Heinz
Super Maramu 2000, 292 Panama


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

eric freedman
 


Santa Marta Colombia

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Thanks fore the anther but how do I re-flash a generator?
Heinz



Am 29.11.2018 um 10:41 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Heinz,


I believe your Onan has a "No AC Output" shutdown switch that would shut it down as you describe. 
With any luck, you may simply have to re-flash the generator to solve the problem. 

If that doesn't work you'll want to check the circuitry on the generator for winding continuity, resistance through the brushes, etc. (I assume you have fixed the short circuit, of course, and checked breakers.)

Let us know what you find.
Cheers, Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Heinz,

 

I think you are dealing with a couple of issues.

 

Since you had an electrical short did you check the master circuit breaker on the generator?

 

Is the fuel supply sufficient? Are you getting enough fuel from the electric pump? Is the fuel clean? The most common cause of a diesel engine shutting down once it has started is lack of fuel. Believe it or not, it is very hard to stop a running diesel engine.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

 

Hello
I would have yesterday with Onan generator switched on a short circuit in an electric line.
Then the generator went out.
The generator starts since then briefly, then goes out however immediately again.
Only if I increase the speed of the generator manually after the start, it remains on, but does not generate electricity.
Somebody knows advice.
I am grateful for each suggestion
Heinz
Super Maramu 2000, 292 Panama


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

Heinz,

The most likely fault is 2 things:
The Onan Governor as Mark and others have said. This governor keeps the generator at constant RPM, regardless of load. The generator is required to be at constant RPM in order to generate electricity at the correct Frequency (50htz). It should never be at idle. Your generator should ALWAYS run at 1,500 RPM.

Are you sure that you know where the Main Breaker is on your Onan. When looking at the control panel, the main breaker is on the left side of the generator, to the back of the left side, near the top.

I am guessing that the governor failed, causing the Main Breaker to OPEN.

I suggest that you get an Onan Certified Technician on board. The Onan OEM governor costs about $380, plus labor. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 12:26 sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Heinz,


I believe your Onan has a "No AC Output" shutdown switch that would shut it down as you describe. 
With any luck, you may simply have to re-flash the generator to solve the problem. 

If that doesn't work you'll want to check the circuitry on the generator for winding continuity, resistance through the brushes, etc. (I assume you have fixed the short circuit, of course, and checked breakers.)

Let us know what you find.
Cheers, Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Heinz,

 

I think you are dealing with a couple of issues.

 

Since you had an electrical short did you check the master circuit breaker on the generator?

 

Is the fuel supply sufficient? Are you getting enough fuel from the electric pump? Is the fuel clean? The most common cause of a diesel engine shutting down once it has started is lack of fuel. Believe it or not, it is very hard to stop a running diesel engine.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

 

Hello
I would have yesterday with Onan generator switched on a short circuit in an electric line.
Then the generator went out.
The generator starts since then briefly, then goes out however immediately again.
Only if I increase the speed of the generator manually after the start, it remains on, but does not generate electricity.
Somebody knows advice.
I am grateful for each suggestion
Heinz
Super Maramu 2000, 292 Panama


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

Craig Briggs
 

Heinz,

I believe your Onan has a "No AC Output" shutdown switch that would shut it down as you describe. 
With any luck, you may simply have to re-flash the generator to solve the problem. 

If that doesn't work you'll want to check the circuitry on the generator for winding continuity, resistance through the brushes, etc. (I assume you have fixed the short circuit, of course, and checked breakers.)

Let us know what you find.
Cheers, Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <mcerdos@...> wrote :

Heinz,

 

I think you are dealing with a couple of issues.

 

Since you had an electrical short did you check the master circuit breaker on the generator?

 

Is the fuel supply sufficient? Are you getting enough fuel from the electric pump? Is the fuel clean? The most common cause of a diesel engine shutting down once it has started is lack of fuel. Believe it or not, it is very hard to stop a running diesel engine.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

 

Hello
I would have yesterday with Onan generator switched on a short circuit in an electric line.
Then the generator went out.
The generator starts since then briefly, then goes out however immediately again.
Only if I increase the speed of the generator manually after the start, it remains on, but does not generate electricity.
Somebody knows advice.
I am grateful for each suggestion
Heinz
Super Maramu 2000, 292 Panama


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

John Clark
 

A thought,  how are you increasing speed?  The genset governor should handle that automatically


On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 9:36 AM Heinz Stutenbaeumer heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

All the electrical fuses are in. The diesel runs perfectly when I hold it Manuel at the start. Something has to tell him he's shutting
Heinz 

Am 29.11.2018 06:52 schrieb "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:
 

Heinz,

 

I think you are dealing with a couple of issues.

 

Since you had an electrical short did you check the master circuit breaker on the generator?

 

Is the fuel supply sufficient? Are you getting enough fuel from the electric pump? Is the fuel clean? The most common cause of a diesel engine shutting down once it has started is lack of fuel. Believe it or not, it is very hard to stop a running diesel engine.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

 

Hello
I would have yesterday with Onan generator switched on a short circuit in an electric line.
Then the generator went out.
The generator starts since then briefly, then goes out however immediately again.
Only if I increase the speed of the generator manually after the start, it remains on, but does not generate electricity.
Somebody knows advice.
I am grateful for each suggestion
Heinz
Super Maramu 2000, 292 Panama



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

John Clark
 

Are you checking for fault codes at the remote start panel?
    John

SV Annie  SM37
Le Marin MQ

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 9:36 AM Heinz Stutenbaeumer heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

All the electrical fuses are in. The diesel runs perfectly when I hold it Manuel at the start. Something has to tell him he's shutting
Heinz 

Am 29.11.2018 06:52 schrieb "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:
 

Heinz,

 

I think you are dealing with a couple of issues.

 

Since you had an electrical short did you check the master circuit breaker on the generator?

 

Is the fuel supply sufficient? Are you getting enough fuel from the electric pump? Is the fuel clean? The most common cause of a diesel engine shutting down once it has started is lack of fuel. Believe it or not, it is very hard to stop a running diesel engine.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

 

Hello
I would have yesterday with Onan generator switched on a short circuit in an electric line.
Then the generator went out.
The generator starts since then briefly, then goes out however immediately again.
Only if I increase the speed of the generator manually after the start, it remains on, but does not generate electricity.
Somebody knows advice.
I am grateful for each suggestion
Heinz
Super Maramu 2000, 292 Panama



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

All the electrical fuses are in. The diesel runs perfectly when I hold it Manuel at the start. Something has to tell him he's shutting
Heinz 

Am 29.11.2018 06:52 schrieb "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Heinz,

 

I think you are dealing with a couple of issues.

 

Since you had an electrical short did you check the master circuit breaker on the generator?

 

Is the fuel supply sufficient? Are you getting enough fuel from the electric pump? Is the fuel clean? The most common cause of a diesel engine shutting down once it has started is lack of fuel. Believe it or not, it is very hard to stop a running diesel engine.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator

 

 

Hello
I would have yesterday with Onan generator switched on a short circuit in an electric line.
Then the generator went out.
The generator starts since then briefly, then goes out however immediately again.
Only if I increase the speed of the generator manually after the start, it remains on, but does not generate electricity.
Somebody knows advice.
I am grateful for each suggestion
Heinz
Super Maramu 2000, 292 Panama