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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown Part

karkauai
 

AHA!  I guess the prior owners had an MOM , but it was gone by the time I acquired Kristy.

Thanks Eric.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Dec 7, 2018, at 1:43 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

That looks like a safety cable for a MOM-8.

It is attached to the Mom and around the rail. If you hit a piling and break off the mounting hardware it keeps the Mom on board.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown Part

 

 

Here’s a link to the pic of my unknown part. A cable with fittings. The whole thing is about 30” long., the wire cable about 3mm diameter (5mm with cover).
Anybody know what it’s for?
Thanks
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/948071197/lightbox/187179813?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/187179813


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Ian Park
 

Did the same as Mark. Good to have the second antenna - is an easy swap if there is a problem with the VHF antenna.
Nice having two masts for all the cables.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Craig Briggs
 


Hi Cathy & Guillaume,

Your specific question has been answered in other replies, but I do wonder a bit about your overall plan for what seems an upgrade of the original equipment. 

While I'm sure the Vesper is good equipment, with it's full display, I wonder that you choose it over a "black box" transponder, assuming you'll be looking at one or two Multi-Function Displays that would eliminate the need for a separate mounting for the Vesper display and the need to jump back and forth to evaluate AIS targets.

For example, if you're looking to go B&G, their (Navico) NAIS would mount out-of-the way and a B&G Vulcan or Zeus MFD would show the data over-layed on a chart, combined with a radar overlay, if you wish, as well as on the VHF (if you want it - I have it on the B&G V50 VHF but never bother to go there, since its much more useful on the MDF). 

Anyway, just suggesting, as another reply did, that you may want to work with a vendor (be it B&G or other) to plan an integrated system, even if you want to replace things a piece at a time.
We worked with B&G at a boat show and they gave us an excellent integrated system plan, complete with schematics that we then tweaked to our final liking.

A fun project - good luck with it!
Cheers, Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <carpathia3@...> wrote :

Dear Amelians,

We became proud owners of SM hull #293 last summer... We received lots of help from Olivier Beauté and Bill Rouse, but there is still sooooo much to learn... This Forum is invaluable!

One question I have: the electronics on Carpathia is exactly the same as 18 years ago. Among other things, I would like to install a Vesper AIS transponder and a new VHF DSC/AIS (probably B&G V60), as well as create the beginning of a NMEA2000 backbone. How does it work for the antenna when two AIS systems coexist? The VHF will have an internal splitter but can there be another - external - splitter for the transponder, all this working from the same antenna, or do I need a second antenna?

Peregrinus, you seem to have installed this configuration? Others?

Many thanks for your help,

Cathy & Guillaume

s/v Carpathia III – SM2K#293


Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Alan Leslie
 

Hello Cathy and Guillaume,

Given that the AIS in the B&G is only a receiver not a transponder, you should have no trouble with a splitter between the VHF and the antenna to feed an external AIS transponder.
Certainly making use of the VHF antenna on top of the main mast gives you the ultimate in terms of distance.
We have a Furuno VHF, a GME splitter and a an AMEC AIS transponder and it all works seamlessly well.
You could also ask B&G.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cuba

Porter McRoberts
 

We have some. Went to Holguin Provence.  Puerto de Vita marina. Came down from the ragged cays. We did get papers from the USCG. Hands down a top cruising experience!!  

Let us know how I we might help Kent

Porter and Helen

S/V IBIS 54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Dec 7, 2018, at 1:31 PM, karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone have experience going to Cuba? We thought we’d like to do that before heading for Belize.

Thanks for any advice or info.

Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cuba

Mark Erdos
 

This may help: http://freecruisingguides.com/cruising-guide-cuba

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 2:31 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cuba

 

 

Does anyone have experience going to Cuba? We thought we’d like to do that before heading for Belize.

Thanks for any advice or info.

Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cuba

Mark Erdos
 

Kent,

 

We seriously looked into it  a couple of years ago and decided not to. The things that put us off were the need to check in and out with multiple Government authorities EVERY time the boat is moved. Then we considered staying at Marina Hemingway and using it as a base while taking private tours of the country. We meet someone in Florida who had recently stayed there and had a very bad experience. There experience was enough to make us change our plans. They had a 30 day contract for about US$1,000 to stay at Marina Hemingway (which they said was crappy and nothing worked). They had to stay two extra days because of weather. The marina charged them US$4,000 and the government officials would not let them go until they paid with cash. It was at this point we decided if we went there, it would not be by boat.

 

That being said, We recently met a French chap and he and his family loved Cuba and said it was the best experience in the Caribbean.

 

I know of a couple of people that go with a rally out of St. Petersburg FL. They also do not have anything nice to say about Marina Hemingway but love the country and tours. Going with a group seems to be the ideal way. The group uses bi-lingual tour guides and travel as a unit.

 

Do you homework before going if you opt in.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 2:31 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cuba

 

 

Does anyone have experience going to Cuba? We thought we’d like to do that before heading for Belize.

Thanks for any advice or info.

Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown Part

eric freedman
 

Hi Kent,

That looks like a safety cable for a MOM-8.

It is attached to the Mom and around the rail. If you hit a piling and break off the mounting hardware it keeps the Mom on board.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown Part

 

 

Here’s a link to the pic of my unknown part. A cable with fittings. The whole thing is about 30” long., the wire cable about 3mm diameter (5mm with cover).
Anybody know what it’s for?
Thanks
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/948071197/lightbox/187179813?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/187179813


Cuba

karkauai
 

Does anyone have experience going to Cuba? We thought we’d like to do that before heading for Belize.

Thanks for any advice or info.

Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243


Unknown Part

karkauai
 

Here’s a link to the pic of my unknown part. A cable with fittings. The whole thing is about 30” long., the wire cable about 3mm diameter (5mm with cover).
Anybody know what it’s for?
Thanks
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/948071197/lightbox/187179813?orderBy=ordinal&;sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/187179813


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Mark Erdos
 

I would suggest installing a separate antenna for the AIS. I installed the AIS antenna on the top of the mizzen mast and followed the radar cabling to the nav station (very easy to do – access in aft head next to the mirror). I have yet to find a splitter that doesn’t impede upon the performance on the units attached.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 12:02 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

 

 

Dear Amelians,

 

We became proud owners of SM hull #293 last summer... We received lots of help from Olivier Beauté and Bill Rouse, but there is still sooooo much to learn... This Forum is invaluable!

 

One question I have: the electronics on Carpathia is exactly the same as 18 years ago. Among other things, I would like to install a Vesper AIS transponder and a new VHF DSC/AIS (probably B&G V60), as well as create the beginning of a NMEA2000 backbone. How does it work for the antenna when two AIS systems coexist? The VHF will have an internal splitter but can there be another - external - splitter for the transponder, all this working from the same antenna, or do I need a second antenna?

 

Peregrinus, you seem to have installed this configuration? Others?

 

Many thanks for your help,

 

Cathy & Guillaume

s/v Carpathia III – SM2K#293


Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter

Cathy & Guillaume
 

Dear Amelians,

We became proud owners of SM hull #293 last summer... We received lots of help from Olivier Beauté and Bill Rouse, but there is still sooooo much to learn... This Forum is invaluable!

One question I have: the electronics on Carpathia is exactly the same as 18 years ago. Among other things, I would like to install a Vesper AIS transponder and a new VHF DSC/AIS (probably B&G V60), as well as create the beginning of a NMEA2000 backbone. How does it work for the antenna when two AIS systems coexist? The VHF will have an internal splitter but can there be another - external - splitter for the transponder, all this working from the same antenna, or do I need a second antenna?

Peregrinus, you seem to have installed this configuration? Others?

Many thanks for your help,

Cathy & Guillaume

s/v Carpathia III – SM2K#293


Re: Antal main outhaul car for 1999 Super Maramu 2000

mfmcgovern@...
 

Ken,

It's more likely that you purchased or were sent the wrong car.  Do you know the part number of the car?  If so, post it here.

The track on the main boom should be 31mm wide x 21mm tall.  That track is still made and sold by Antal:  https://www.mauriprosailing.com/us/category/2-Antal-4-Race-Tracks-31-21.html and so is the car:  https://www.mauriprosailing.com/us/product/ANT4110SH.html

Depending on what what damaged and how bad you might be able to repair/rebuild your car.  Check out Alex from Nikimat's excellent write-ups on rebuilding his boom cars here:  http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car.html and here:  http://nikimat.com/boom_extension_car_rebuild.html 

Good luck!

Mark McGovern
SM#440 Cara
Wintry and Cold Deale, MD USA



 



Antal main outhaul car for 1999 Super Maramu 2000

Ken Powers <sailingaquarius@...>
 

Hello All, I need your help.

Aquarius is a 1999 Super Maramu 2000, and the car for the main outhaul was damaged.  I bought a new one in New Zealand from Antal (Hall Spars), but the new car is a different size.  The center ridge on the track attached to the main boom is too high, and the car will not fit on the track.  Has anyone else had this problem?  Hopefully I will not have to replace the track on the main boom just because Antal changed the track size!!!!!

Thanks,

Ken Powers


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

Willem Kroes
 

Thanks a lot Alan!

Kind regards, Willem

SM#351 KAVANGA

Op 6 dec. 2018 22:25 schreef "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" :
 

The part number for the Leroy Somer gearbox as on SM437 is :


MVA M33 C CR20 60 

The last time I bought one from the Australian dealer it cost me A$1295 delivered.

Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Amel54 SSB installation

Jeroen Jeltes
 

Thank you Bill.  the position of the copper foil in the aft lazarette is very usefull information.  i  will let you now how i get on.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

Alan Leslie
 

The part number for the Leroy Somer gearbox as on SM437 is :

MVA M33 C CR20 60 

The last time I bought one from the Australian dealer it cost me A$1295 delivered.

Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437


An Anchor Alternative...

greatketch@...
 

Harmonie came to us with a 40kg Rocna anchor.  I believe that this has been the the standard anchor that people have chosen when they were looking to upsize from the 30kg Bügel.


After a circumnavigation with the previous owners, and an additional couple of years with us, our reliable old friend on the bow was getting a bit worn.  The galvanizing was almost all gone, and the rust was starting to bleed through. We looked at having our chain and anchor re-galvanized, but could not find a source to take on such a relatively small project in a cost effective manner.  Since we were in the market for a second anchor anyway, it was time to shop.


The long version of this story is in our blog, but I thought the Amel world would be interested.


Making a very long story as brief as possible, we ended up selecting a 48kg (105lb) Mantus as our new primary anchor.  Having a lot of  previous experience with the Mantus anchor, we were sure we would be at least as happy with the anchoring performance as we would be with the 40kg Rocna. The only question was if the fit on the bow roller was going to be satisfactory.  With templates and tape measures we were pretty comfortable that things would work well.


Turns out the Mantus fits even better than the Rocna. More secure, and less interference with the pulpit and second anchor roller.  Be aware that our roller is the "old style" and even from that is slightly modified, so be sure you check yourself for fit on your boat.  


We ended up with an anchor with about 10% more surface area than the 40kg Rocna, for just about the same price. Many of you know I HATE adding weight to the bow of the boat, but the extra 17 lbs seems worth it.


Always good to have alternatives!


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bonfiglioli Main Furler Schematic

greatketch@...
 

There are many distributors for LeroySomers gear boxes, but to order them direct you will need the exact part number, which I do not have, or take the gearbox in and have the staff measure them. The last time I looked, delivery was 12 to 20 weeks from France.

Amel has the LeroySomers gearboxes in stock.  Maud just shipped us two.  Expensive, but available.



Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Swivel Ball Stopper Plugs

greatketch@...
 


Ian,

Interesting...  Are your plugs just held in by the "liner"?  If so, how did they fall fall out? Which I understand to be the problem with your swivel.

Bill


---In amelyachtowners@..., <sv_freespirit@...> wrote :

Bill,

you must have a different design to my swivel. There are no circlips on SM 414. The balls I got from Amel no problem, but not the plugs. OK on the lube side. I did not intend to use any. All of my ball bearings were showing signs of degradation, cracking and wear, so I will replace the lot.

Regards

Ian SM 414 Crusader (2003) Cyprus

On 04/12/2018 21:02, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Ian,


The actual balls for the ball bearings are readily available.  They are a standard part. Mine were all in good shape, and got reassembled or I would measure them.  Measure carefully, and do not assume they are metric.  Many European manufacturers of moving rigging parts use 0.25 inch ball bearings. The cir-clips are also a standard size and widely available.  The plugs... of course not so much! 

I just had my swivel rebuilt.  The first cir-clip came out without a hitch, followed by the plug.  The second clip shattered when it was being removed, and left little corroded pieces of itself behind that made removing the plug a nightmare.  The cir-clips were replaced with stainless ones that will not have this problem.  

Like so many things, this is a compromise.  A higher risk of corrosion to the swivel body, but a lower risk of corrosion to an aluminum clip that can cause loss of the clips and plugs.  I have put a good coat of Lanocoat over the clips, and added the part to my routine inspection list.  Hopefully that, along with the part's location well above the normal salt spray zone, will keep things together and running smoothly.

An interesting piece of recent technical advice from Harkin about these plastic ball bearings in other applications.  They strongly suggest NOT lubricating them with the standard dry silicone lubricants-just keep them flushed with fresh water. The rational is the silicones can make the bearing race so slick that the balls start to slide instead of roll.  Then they get a flat spot, and things go down hill from there.  This was news to me, although it has the sound of truth to it.  

I haven't decided yet if I will stop putting dry lube on parts like this.  

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA

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