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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel54 SSB installation
Roque
Hi According to Owner Manual: Diameter: 10mm lengh. Total. 19645 mm Rgds Roque Attika A54 # 117 Paraty
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Re: Amel54 SSB installation
Hi folks,
Can anyone please advise (or point me to a resource) about the length and wire gauge of the Amel 54 backstay. I’m still considering whether to use a starboard backstay or whip antenna! Many thanks Dean SY Stella A54#154
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Re: Cuba
sbmesasailor
We landed in Cienfuegas in May 2017 after fooling around in Jardines de la Reina for a few days to snorkel (prior to checking into the country). We were unmolested while in Jardines de la Reina and Marlin Marina in Cienfuegas was very nice. It was small and a little hard to get to but the facilities and management were great. Customs and immigration were the most thorough we had ever experienced but they were not antagonistic or corrupt (expecting handouts). We took a road trip to Havana (chartered a taxi which wasn't that expensive) and really enjoyed it. Our only surprize was how difficult it was to get cash and everything has to be done in cash as Cuba doesn't accept US credit cards and there are no ATM machines. Take plenty of US dollars to exchange to Cuban pesos or have plenty of currency converted before you go. Dennis Johns Libertad Maramu 121
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Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter
greatketch@...
I'll add another vote for a second antenna on the mizzen I have used an AIS with a splitter and never noticed a performance problem, but having a back up antenna is a good thing. It is the way Harmonie came to us, and we would not change it.
As for the performance of an AIS antenna at mizzen mast height, that's where ours is. We routinely see Class A AIS broadcasts from 50 nautical miles away. Class B broadcasts with their lower power are broadcast power limited, not line of sight. We expect to see a Class B transmitter by the time it is 10 miles away. Since we have a Class B transceiver, our expectation is that other vessels will not see us at a range of greater than 10 nautical miles. This is also not going to be affected by antenna height. I imagine we could get a little increase in Class B receiving and transmitting range with a higher gain antenna, but probably not doubling it. While theoretically, an antenna at the mainmast head will increase the receiving range for a Class A AIS, in the real world increasing the range beyond 50 miles, this not likely to be of any real world use. In fact, our MFD can not effectively display AIS targets at that range. Your instrument upgrade path will can be a fun one! We are just approaching the end of that path, and it is nice having a system that does everything we want it to do. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46
eric freedman
Hi, I cannot tell you how Amel wired your lighting. I would start by finding the circuit breaker that controls that light and see if it working. However I had a similar problem on Kimberlite in my forward cabin. The wire started in a cabinet in the forward cabin. I had to lift up the glued down material, As I followed the wire I stuck a straight pin into the wire to measure the voltage between the wire and the ground wire. The wire did not have voltage under the material. I then followed the wire along the moldings that ran along the cabin side. They routed out the molding to accommodate the wire. Still nothing under that piece of molding. The wire continued under a piece of molding that ran across the cabin top inside. I finally found a break in the wire and fixed it.
In other areas of the boat I see that they ran wires under the headliner. I would start by checking the breaker and then tracing the wire. It will probably follow a similar path as I have described either under molding or headliner or other fabric. They were quite cleaver in routing these wires. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 9:11 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46
Yes mine as well from the salon main panel however I discovered more breakers....
If you haven't done any electrical work I find it odd that the positive leg is dead...zero volts right?
On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 8:18 AM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
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Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter
Many thanks for your advice, Alan, Mark, Craig, AIan and Richard, very helpful. Mark and Ian: I am tempted by the redundancy of a second antenna, but does the 5m difference in height make any noticeable difference for the AIS transponder? I guess this should be compared with the loss coming from the splitter. Again, assuming this makes any difference at all. Craig, I should have been more precise: the Vesper AIS I intend to buy is the XB8000, which is indeed blackbox, no screen. Preference over the NAIS500 because it has GPS, again for redundancy. I want to install a Zeus3 9” MFD at the helm and will view the AIS info on the Zeus. At some stage later, replace the Furuno radar by a B&G 4G. For chart table visualisation of all NMEA2000 info, I would start with tablet through wifi from the Zeus (any counter advice there?) to save the immediate expense of a second MFD. Plus a computer connection from the USB port of the Vesper. There is the Paris boat show starting this weekend, so will follow your advice and approach a couple of manufacturers, probably B&G and Garmin. Indeed a fun project! I have developed a tentative multi-year evolution plan, but am sure to have many more questions! Cheers, Cathy & Guillaume s/v Carpathia III – SM2K #293
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Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter
Hi Richard,
I had not picked up on that, nor that the Vesper Blue Box is also a Wi-fi router. Does your IPad also include chart and radar along with the Vesper's AIS, as the B&G system does? With B&G, and I'm sure the other major players, Garmin and Flir/Raymarine, an Ipad or other smart device can act exactly like another controlling MFD except for autopilot control. Cheers, Craig ---In amelyachtowners@..., <middleton@...> wrote : Craig might not know this but Vesper does sell both a black box AIS transponder and one with a display. I’ve gone with the Vesper 'black' box - BTW it’s blue not black! - on my NMEA 2000 network. The blue box repeats the NMEA info on its Wi-fi. So I get an AIS display on my iPad, as well as on a chart plotter. regards Richard Maybe Amel someday, currently HR 35 Rasmus.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator
Heinz Stutenbaeumer
Thanks to all. I had to go back to Germany for Christmas and new year. So I cannot try all off your Ideas in the moment.
Fair Winds Heinz SM 2000 Quetzal 292
Von: amelyachtowners@...
Hi Heinz, It is the same way as your engine mounted alternators have to be excited. Properly wired it happens when you turn the start key on. I guess it should work the same with the gen set. With your alternator if the exciting circuit is faulty the excitation can occur by reving your engine. This result tells you the alternator is OK and it is the excitation circuit where the fault lies. So perhaps your problem is in the excitation circuit Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 09:17, 'Stutenbaeumer.Berlin' heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46
amelforme
Although I am not absolutely certain about the last two years of Maramu production, Maramus previous had three breakers for the interior lights. Forward cabin lights had a breaker on the drop open panel with the mast light breakers. Saloon lights on the main 12 volt DC panel adjacent to the companionway and the aft cabin with a single breaker most commonly mounted on the vertical panel with the open storage compartments just behind the marine toilet. As you face this panel, it is usually in the upper left hand part of that area.
Let us know what you discover…
JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C. THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE Office 954-462-5869 Cell 954-812-2485
From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 7:19 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46
I have never seen a CB for the aft cabin lights. They always operate with the main cabin lights CB on the 12v panel. It's a Maramu, not a Super Maramu and may well be simpler.
Kind regards
Graham Jamesby Maramu 46 #240
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, 11:13 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46
John Clark
Yes mine as well from the salon main panel however I discovered more breakers.... If you haven't done any electrical work I find it odd that the positive leg is dead...zero volts right?
On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 8:18 AM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46
Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
I have never seen a CB for the aft cabin lights. They always operate with the main cabin lights CB on the 12v panel. It's a Maramu, not a Super Maramu and may well be simpler. Kind regards Graham Jamesby Maramu 46 #240
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46
John Clark
Graham, I cannot answer definitely because I have an SM. On my boat there are separate DC breakers for the watertight compartments. On SM 37 the breaker for the aft cabin it is located in the head over the toilet.... If not located there it might be nearby. Amel logic is to put breakers near the load. John Clark SV Annie SM 37 entering Tyrell Bay.. ..
On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 6:19 AM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
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Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter
Richard Middleton <middleton@...>
Craig might not know this but Vesper does sell both a black box AIS transponder and one with a display. I’ve gone with the Vesper 'black' box - BTW it’s blue not black! - on my NMEA 2000 network. The blue box repeats the NMEA info on its Wi-fi. So I get an AIS display on my iPad, as well as on a chart plotter.
regards Richard Maybe Amel someday, currently HR 35 Rasmus.
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Re: Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46
Dom
Hi,
here is the diagram. Best regards
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Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46
Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
Can anyone help me with an electrical problem in our 1988 Maramu 46 #240.
All the lights in the aft cabin have failed. We checked all the bulbs, of course! We have established that the problem is with the positive cable as we have checked the negative (ground) cable and it has continuity. We've established that, if we get power to any one of the light fittings, all will then work. We can't work out how the positive cable gets from the circuit breaker on the 12v panel and the first light in the aft cabin. All the cables are hidden. If anyone has had this problem before or has access to a cable routing diagram, I'd be glad of your experience. Kind regards Graham Jamesby Maramu 46 #240
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cable routing 1988 Maramu 46
Graham,
Dumb question but, have you determined the DC breaker for the aft lights is operational?
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia www.creampuff.us
From:
amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Can anyone help me with an electrical problem
in our 1988 Maramu 46 #240.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown Part
AHA! I guess the prior owners had an MOM , but it was gone by the time I acquired Kristy.
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Thanks Eric. Kent S/V Kristy SM243
On Dec 7, 2018, at 1:43 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi Kent, That looks like a safety cable for a MOM-8. It is attached to the Mom and around the rail. If you hit a piling and break off the mounting hardware it keeps the Mom on board. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Here’s a link to the pic of my unknown part. A cable with fittings. The whole thing is about 30” long., the wire cable about 3mm diameter (5mm with cover).
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter
Ian Park
Did the same as Mark. Good to have the second antenna - is an easy swap if there is a problem with the VHF antenna.
Nice having two masts for all the cables. Ian Ocean Hobo SN96
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Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter
Hi Cathy & Guillaume, Your specific question has been answered in other replies, but I do wonder a bit about your overall plan for what seems an upgrade of the original equipment. While I'm sure the Vesper is good equipment, with it's full display, I wonder that you choose it over a "black box" transponder, assuming you'll be looking at one or two Multi-Function Displays that would eliminate the need for a separate mounting for the Vesper display and the need to jump back and forth to evaluate AIS targets. For example, if you're looking to go B&G, their (Navico) NAIS would mount out-of-the way and a B&G Vulcan or Zeus MFD would show the data over-layed on a chart, combined with a radar overlay, if you wish, as well as on the VHF (if you want it - I have it on the B&G V50 VHF but never bother to go there, since its much more useful on the MDF). Anyway, just suggesting, as another reply did, that you may want to work with a vendor (be it B&G or other) to plan an integrated system, even if you want to replace things a piece at a time. We worked with B&G at a boat show and they gave us an excellent integrated system plan, complete with schematics that we then tweaked to our final liking. A fun project - good luck with it! Cheers, Craig SN68 ---In amelyachtowners@..., <carpathia3@...> wrote : Dear Amelians, We became proud owners of SM hull #293 last summer... We received lots of help from Olivier Beauté and Bill Rouse, but there is still sooooo much to learn... This Forum is invaluable! One question I have: the electronics on Carpathia is exactly the same as 18 years ago. Among other things, I would like to install a Vesper AIS transponder and a new VHF DSC/AIS (probably B&G V60), as well as create the beginning of a NMEA2000 backbone. How does it work for the antenna when two AIS systems coexist? The VHF will have an internal splitter but can there be another - external - splitter for the transponder, all this working from the same antenna, or do I need a second antenna? Peregrinus, you seem to have installed this configuration? Others? Many thanks for your help, Cathy & Guillaume s/v Carpathia III – SM2K#293
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Re: Original Autopilot Integration With New Chartplotter
Hello Cathy and Guillaume,
Given that the AIS in the B&G is only a receiver not a transponder, you should have no trouble with a splitter between the VHF and the antenna to feed an external AIS transponder. Certainly making use of the VHF antenna on top of the main mast gives you the ultimate in terms of distance. We have a Furuno VHF, a GME splitter and a an AMEC AIS transponder and it all works seamlessly well. You could also ask B&G. Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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