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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

I don't want to step on any toes here, but I can't imagine how the pictured pulley could work.  The ribs in the Amel pulley are meant to grip the jib-car positioning line so that it doesn't slide in the pulley. Just like an Anderson winch.   You are depending on the "grip" of the rope to prevent the jib car from moving under load from the jib sheet.  Just my opinion.  

Isn't Amel going to provide these any more?  I purchased a set a couple of years ago from them.   It also seemed that somewhere back in time on this forum someone posted about having manufactured properly ribbed pulleys from stainless steel. 

Sincerely, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona 
Amel SM 2000 # 335
One the hard at Puerto Del Rey, Puerto Rico


Re: Larger stove?

Duane Siegfri
 

Arno,

Where is the oven burner in the Force 10?

Maybe all marine stoves have the burner in the back, but it leads to very uneven heat.

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

Mike Ondra
 

Toe Pulley Seekers,

I have received Bernard’s pulleys and they appear very well machined and of what looks to be a superb material (PETP). This instruction sheets also look well done and complete. However the slot/groove for the line is smooth, not ribbed or toothed, and the PETP is slippery. Has anyone installed these and how well do they work? It would seem that line size and composition must be very specific to this slot/groove.

Mike Ondra

ALETES SM#240

St. Augustine, FL

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:02 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

 

 

Thanks J-L and Alan.  I’m ordering, too.

Kent

S/V Kristy


On Oct 16, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Kelly Ran naryllek@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Alan! 

Our prototype didn't work out, so we will order from Bernard!

 

Kelly + Ryan

SM233 Iteration

Boston

 

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 21:10 James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alan - Thanks for sharing this.  There are many of us who have been desiring to replace our cracked sheaves, and this is a great and affordable alternative.  I am going to give it a try as well.  

 

Thank you again everyone - This forum is full of gems!

 

-James

SV Soteria 

SM2K  347

On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:44 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtesy of Jean-Luc Mertz, I have been in touch with Bernard Ancelle in France.

 

He is making a one piece toe pulley in PETP (polyester). They will be available for purchase in a few weeks

 

Bernard says :

The pulley is in one piece and thicker than original aluminum Amel one
for strength (but the core of the pulley has the same thickness as the
original one to be easily fitted).
The material is PETP which resists well to a lot of chemical products
(particularly sea water), does not absorb water, resists to UV and has
good mechanical properties.
The combination of plastics device and inox (stainless) screws would not be
subjected to corrosion as the previous one.

Bernard can supply the pulley including 3 x  M6 316L stainless bolts for 60 Euros plus postage.

 

You can order directly from Bernard by email :  ba at ancelle dot net

 

i have ordered two pulleys today.

 

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437

Noumea...leaving for Opua tomorrow !

 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

Mike Ondra
 

Toe Pulley Seekers,

I have received Bernard’s pulleys and they appear very well machined and of what looks to be a superb material (PETP). This instruction sheets also look well done and complete. However the slot/groove for the line is smooth, not ribbed or toothed, and the PETP is slippery. Has anyone installed these and how well do they work? It would seem that line size and composition must be very specific to this slot/groove.

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:02 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

 

 

Thanks J-L and Alan.  I’m ordering, too.

Kent

S/V Kristy


On Oct 16, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Kelly Ran naryllek@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Alan! 

Our prototype didn't work out, so we will order from Bernard!

 

Kelly + Ryan

SM233 Iteration

Boston

 

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 21:10 James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alan - Thanks for sharing this.  There are many of us who have been desiring to replace our cracked sheaves, and this is a great and affordable alternative.  I am going to give it a try as well.  

 

Thank you again everyone - This forum is full of gems!

 

-James

SV Soteria 

SM2K  347

On Oct 16, 2018, at 5:44 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Courtesy of Jean-Luc Mertz, I have been in touch with Bernard Ancelle in France.

 

He is making a one piece toe pulley in PETP (polyester). They will be available for purchase in a few weeks

 

Bernard says :

The pulley is in one piece and thicker than original aluminum Amel one
for strength (but the core of the pulley has the same thickness as the
original one to be easily fitted).
The material is PETP which resists well to a lot of chemical products
(particularly sea water), does not absorb water, resists to UV and has
good mechanical properties.
The combination of plastics device and inox (stainless) screws would not be
subjected to corrosion as the previous one.

Bernard can supply the pulley including 3 x  M6 316L stainless bolts for 60 Euros plus postage.

 

You can order directly from Bernard by email :  ba at ancelle dot net

 

i have ordered two pulleys today.

 

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437

Noumea...leaving for Opua tomorrow !

 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Larger stove?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Paul,
The one we got had an oven with a top and bottom gas element. The bottom for oven  the top for grill  so we have a grill function within the oven
 Same as our original. We considered a four burner but realised we seldom wanted more than two burners. I really like the amel gimbal set up and it wasnt hard to transfer it.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean pearl

On 28/12/2018 00:29, "paul.cooper74@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for that info, Danny.  Did you get it with or without the grill?  We are concerned the grill reduces the oven volume too much.

Paul
SM238 Maracuya


Re: Larger stove?

paul.cooper74@...
 

Thanks for that info, Danny.  Did you get it with or without the grill?  We are concerned the grill reduces the oven volume too much.
Paul
SM238 Maracuya


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Christmas

Cathy & Guillaume
 

Merry Christmas to all from Malta, and thanks Dimitri K for posting our photo from La Valette on the Facebook site!!!

Cathy & Guillaume
s/v Carpathia III
SM2K #293


Re: SM Mizzen Furling System Gearbox Overhaul

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Thank you Bill for your kind thoughts.  It all started when I was seeking the information from others that you have so generously provided down thru the years, formalizing it a bit etc.   Various generous people shared and kept me going in the early years of my SM ownership. 

As to the status of the Liahona vs hurricanes Irma and Maria encounters (SM #335).  It took 16 weeks for repairs to be effected by Island Marine, Inc. of Puerto Del Rey, Puerto Rico.  The company is owned and very actively run by Ken Towne and Rick Karolun.  These guys have long and expert experience in boat building (I understand they built a couple of racing yachts for Roy Disney in the early years of vacuum bagging etc) and have been doing major repairs to boats for 25 years or so in Puerto Del Rey.  During the 16 weeks of the repairs I was on sight for 10 of those weeks and had a photographer document daily work progress to the tune of about 100 photos per day for the weeks I couldn't be there.   Repairs were completed July 4th 2018.

The major problem with damage to the rub-rail is reconstructing that complex structure in a structurally sound way.  Island Marine was up to the challenge.  They used various strips of "S" glass (structural fiberglass).  This stuff is green colored, must be made in high pressure/heat molds and is stronger than steel.  They made molds from undamaged rub-rail and included the structural glass into the laminates as they rebuilt the rub-rail.  There are new laminates across the hull to deck joint  where the angle of the hull and deck flange were ground down by abrasion against concrete.  No structural damage there, just abrasion, and the repair was so expertly done that I believe that with the S glass, the repaired part is stronger than original.  There was about 10 ft of rub-rail repaired on the starboard side and about 4 feet on the port side.  The hull abrasions/perforations  were all ground to sound glass and laid up with a schedule of glass equalling the original.  Damaged toe-rail cleats were replaced with matching new ones and the toe-rail areas damaged (minor) were repaired.  The boat was prepped and painted in 4 colors of AwlCraft to match the original: 1- matching beige on the toe-rail all the hatches perimeters, 2 - matching brown on the rub-rail, 3 - hull matching off white, and 4 - new boot stripe in "Desert Sand" (like yours Bill).  In addition we changed the position of the bootstripe.  We left it at the same level in the bow but raised it 4 inches in the stern to give a more "level on her lines" appearance.  New rubber "scupper" extrusion was available from Amel and that was a challenge but successfully replaced. All the damage to the lifelines was so expertly repaired that it is un-believable to me.  While she was undergoing repairs I did a lot of work on the boat, overhauling various systems, (i.e. that is when I tackled the mizzen furling gearbox), cleaning every locker, shimming the genset so that the tray under the Onan drains inboard rather than collecting oil and water outboard, doing corrosion control painting here and there, strip and re-epoxy prime the keel, major overhaul of the bow thruster, overhaul of the main furling and outhaul gearboxes, etc., etc.   Bottom paint is pending until a few days prior to re-launch.

In short, Liahona is in better cosmetic and mechanical condition than she has been since almost when I took delivery of her July 2001.  I am awaiting a new stern bumper for her that Amel is shipping right after Christmas, then the transformation will be complete. 

My insurance company was good to work with, paid promptly upon presentation of the various receipts etc.  I was out the use of the boat for a 15 months, travel to and from PR 3 times plus room and board etc, but other than that I have a sound and beautiful boat again.   She comes out of hurricane storage 20 Jan and we will be enjoying her again. 

All the best to you and thanks for all you have done for the Amel owners. 

Merry Christmas, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 #335





Re: Wanted Amel Sharki

Willem Kroes
 

Hi Bastian,

A friend of mine is selling his1986 Sharki.. The owner is an engineer by profession and he and his wife decided last summer to put the boat for sale, primarily because of their age. This Sharki is very well maintained with retractable bow thruster and furling Genua, both from Amel and a new engine in 2013.
The owner and I (also an Amel owner) made an arrangement, a few days ago that I will help him with the advertising and the paperwork involved with the selling proces.

We just made a brochure of the boat with inventory and pictures and I will be glad to send it to you.

My e-mail address: kavanga@...
My phone number: +31 6 47 96 35 71

So please feel free to contact me.

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM #351 KAVANGA


Wanted Amel Sharki

Bastian
 

Hi guys,


I am looking for a Sharki. If anyone is currently cruising in a decently maintained one and would like to sell it, please get in touch.


I also tried to find out the differences between the built models 1979 - 1987 but even Amel does not have any documentation anymore.


Happy cruising and a good new year,


Bastian

   


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Christmas in Barbados

John Clark
 

Hi Graham,. We are in Carriacou.  Might have a few days off after New Year, perfect for a day sail...or motor to Barbados.  Will let you know.   Merry Christmas to you and your family.

John 
SV Annie SM 37
Tyrell Bay

On Mon, Dec 24, 2018, 5:20 PM Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

HI All,

If any of you are passing through Barbados between Christmas and 6
January 2019, we will be at anchor in the bay just south of the entrance
to Port St Charles

Please give us a call. 

Season's greetings

Graham & Annie Cresswell

SV Jamesby
Maramu 46
French flagged. 

MMSI: 329 015 210
or email graham@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Christmas

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

And to you.
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl


On 25/12/2018 07:21, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Feliz Navidad

 

From Mark and Cindy in Colombia

Cream Puff

 



Christmas in Barbados

Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
 

HI All,

If any of you are passing through Barbados between Christmas and 6
January 2019, we will be at anchor in the bay just south of the entrance
to Port St Charles

Please give us a call. 

Season's greetings

Graham & Annie Cresswell

SV Jamesby
Maramu 46
French flagged. 

MMSI: 329 015 210
or email graham@jamesby.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Christmas

Courtney Gorman
 

Merry Christmas to all 
May you’re winds be fair (and from the beam)
May you’re seas be calm
May you’re anchorages be beautiful and sandy bottomed 
And may you and yours be happy and healthy 
And to all a good night 
sv trippin 


On Dec 24, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi All Amelians where ever you are in the world. Wishing you all the best for Christmas and the New Year. We look forward to another year sharing experiences and adventures with you, the Amel family
Danny and Yvonne
Ocean Pearl
SM 299


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Larger stove?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi

We replaced our two burner eno with another the same. We removed the amel gimbal mod from the old stove and attached it to the new. Fixed the width issue and I like the functionality and looks of it too.

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 24 December 2018 at 12:29 "arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We just replaced the Eno on our A54 with an Force 10 4-burner. We had the same problem that the width of the cavity is about 60 cm and marine stoves seem to hover aroud the 50 cm wide mark. The Force 10 is 52, so I placed two filler pieces of wood left and right. The original stove was modified by Amel from the looks of it to have the gimbal points at the burner level instead of at the level of the top of the oven. I don’t know why they did that. I could not find a gimballed stove aroud 60 cm wide, Force10 has a wider one but that is about 70 cm wide.
I’ve looked for other stoves as well. There is GN-Espace, a UK brand, very nice, very expensive. Most other stuff I could find is pretty poor from build quality, even Force 10 is not what they used to be since they were bought by Eno (still better then Eno though). But at least they still carry the clever mechnism for the oven door and they are reasonally easy to clean.
In the end you pay crazy money for a stove that has much less build quality then a domestic stove. Things like self cleaning oven walls and so are completely unknown in sailboat stoves.

Good luck hunting for your new stove!

Arno Luijten
Luna,
A54-121


 


 


Christmas

Danny Simms
 

Hi All Amelians where ever you are in the world. Wishing you all the best for Christmas and the New Year. We look forward to another year sharing experiences and adventures with you, the Amel family
Danny and Yvonne
Ocean Pearl
SM 299


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Christmas

Mark Erdos
 

Feliz Navidad

 

From Mark and Cindy in Colombia

Cream Puff

 


Re: Fresh water distribution pipework Maramu 46

sbmesasailor
 

Hi Graham,

I presume the plumbing for your '88 Maramu is the same as my '82.  It will be easy to determine...  Pull up the floor boards on the port side of the saloon table.  If you find a fiberglass bulge running along the side of the encasement of the water tank, then we have the same plumbing.  The copper lines for the forward head run inside this bulge/channel, through the bulkhead, under the shower pan and terminate at the sink.  The lines feed into this channel at a junction under the refrigerator.

Amel realized that this plumbing would be virtually inaccessible for maintenance which is probably why they made the effort to encase it in fibreglass.  Unfortunately for you and for me, the copper has finally corroded and is leaking.  In your case, the solution may only be to remove the shower pan to access the leak.  My problem is at the other end where the copper enters the fiberglass channel.

I'm not familiar with the process of removing the shower pan but I'm pretty sure that while it's possible, it's a major project requiring a lot of head parts removal and maybe even some demolition.  Perhaps some other Maramu owner can help with guidance for that.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121



Re: Larger stove?

Arno Luijten
 

There is a video of the GN Espace model on You-Tube. I must say I was a bit underwhelmed because of the video. Especially because you spend the best part of $4k fot that thing. That’s why I decided the Force 10 was good enough.

Arno
Luna,
A54-121


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Larger stove?

 

Mark,

Agree, agree and couldn't agree more. After reviewing the OceanChef model from gn-espace.com, I wouldn't buy anything else.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 9:11 AM 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Wow!

 

I went to this page out of curiosity as we currently are not in the market for a stove. And my curiosity peaked when you said it was made in the UK and being British I always lived with the adage, anything made in England with more than two moving parts is going to break. But, perhaps there is finally an exception?

 

It makes me wonder how much money a person needs to spend on a boat to get into the category where a mattress more than 3” deep and a decent stove are standard equipment.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 3:23 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Larger stove?

 

 

The Rolls Royce of cookers is the GN Espace range (gn-espace.com). They are in a different league to the rest on the market. Built in the UK but expensive. Sometimes you get what you pay for! I had one on my previous boat. Superb!

 

I still have the original Eno on my 54 and am happy with it, but it is not the same quality at all. The grill in particular is poor.

 

Kind regards

 

Nick

 

Amelia(Aml 54 019)

On 23 Dec 2018, at 12:29, paul.cooper74@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

We would like to upgrade our original 2-burner ENO stove.  Our options include a newer nicer ENO but all ENOs appear to have the same dimensions, which allows 5.5 cm of unused space on either side of the unit.

 

So I am wondering if one could make more efficient use of that space and install a larger stove/oven?

 

Does anyone have or know of a brand/model that is larger than the ENO and still fit in the space, which is 605 mm wide?

 

Thanks,

 

Paul C.

SM2K#238 "MARACUYA"

Martinique

 

 

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