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Re: Rubber caps for Lofrans

Ian Park
 

Dave
The windlass was modified by Amel to incorporate the switches. The difficulty I have is finding the switches with the correct dimensions. I have found them on eBay, almost the right size but not the quality of the originals. The main issue is the depth of the switch as there is little clearance room between the outer casing and the body of the electric motor.
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Rubber caps for Lofrans

earoygqnobuqyxflnnlje6pvepcircllumuqqvak@...
 

Hi Gerhard, 

 I too am looking for the rubber boots for our Lofrans windlass and have not had any luck on my own, through Lofrans or in fact through ebay or britak uk.  Would you be able to provide any additional information doe sourcing these?  

 I appears on mine that the fiber ring is integral with the rubber boot, does this come with the replacement?  i am surprised at how difficult these things have been to find. 

 In fact Lofrans told me the windless must have been owner modified ( very skeptical of this) since the switches are always mounted on the deck, thus only had the switches with the hinged caps. 

Any additional information would be great.  

Best regards, 
 
Dave Bruce,  sv Liesse,  SN006  


Re: How to remove the Mainsail furling motor on a 54?

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Porter;

I did replace our main furler motor back in 2015 with a new one due to the top seal failure and water penetration.

I do vaguely recall having a similar issue during removal, but I do not exactly recall the solution. One thing I can assure you of is that it will come out and mast removal is not required. I do recall that there were hard plastic spacers that filled the space between the mast profile and the furler motor. I believe that the motor has to be turned in to the proper orientation to the mast in order for it to slide out. I will look through my files and pictures to see if it will jog my memory. Unfortunately we are not on board.

Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Bill,

Yes the Amel pulleys are available at Eu200+ each, that's Eu400+ for a pair, but they're alloy with SS bolts and on a SS shaft...as you know that's not good with sea water around....that's why they need replacing.
Bernard's pulleys are only 60Eu for a pair, so worth trying I think. I'll install them and use 10mm polyester sheathed Vectran (no creep, no stretch) and see how they go.

Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

greatketch@...
 

Alan,

Those dimensions are very different than the Amel original cast pulleys, and the shape is also very different, with significantly less taper.

Amel's design has a 15mm opening on the outer edge, and 5.6mm at the "bottom" of the groove (ignoring the line gripping ribs). The bottom of the groove on the Amel pulleys is also not curved, but square.

We received two sets from Amel in September.  Are they no longer available?

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., <divanz620@...> wrote :

Further to this, I've looked closely at the pulley and the groove is actually wider at the outside than the inside.
As near as I can measure it, just under 10mm at the outer edge and just under 8mm at the inside before the curve. I think this angled flange with a 10mm polyester sheathed vectran core line pulled tight probably will do the job.
That's what I'll do at the end of the month and we'll see how it goes when soaked.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: How to remove the Mainsail furling motor on a 54?

greatketch@...
 

Porter,

I haven't done this on a 54, but looking at the photos, I would bet if you remove the manual furling gearbox you can remove the electric one by lifting it up and out.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

Alan Leslie
 

Further to this, I've looked closely at the pulley and the groove is actually wider at the outside than the inside.
As near as I can measure it, just under 10mm at the outer edge and just under 8mm at the inside before the curve. I think this angled flange with a 10mm polyester sheathed vectran core line pulled tight probably will do the job.
That's what I'll do at the end of the month and we'll see how it goes when soaked.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


How to remove the Mainsail furling motor on a 54?

Porter McRoberts
 

Gentlemen and ladies,

May I please impose a question on you?

Because the mainsail is furling ever more slowly and in a “tired” fashion I want to remove the mainsail furling motor and examine it.

Today I tried, unsuccessfully, to do just that. I could not get the motor and housing out of the mast. There appeared to be no way of removing it. I removed all the mounting screws and dropped it down, but the motor and housing diameter appears larger than the exiting width of the mast. There must be a trick. Surely we don’t have to take down the mast to do this. Does anyone have any insight on how to do this? I can’t believe Amel would make this as easy and obvious as they have with everything else. I am most certainly just not thinking of it.

Pictures below.

Many thanks in advance,

Porter McRoberts
Amel 54-152 S/V IBIS. Panama








Excuse the errors.
Sent from my IPhone
Www.fouribis.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Mike,

Jean-Luc Mertz was the original prototype tester.

Maybe you have some advice Jean-Luc?

Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

Mike Ondra
 

Hi Alan,

I have emailed Bernard (without reply to date) about any testing he may have done relative to slippage and recommended line size/composition.

Peter de Groot has lightly tested this with success. Since I have Bernard’s sheaves and will not be on Aletes until February I will be eager for your evaluation and see if you find like Peter that these work.

Does anyone else have experience with Bernard’s sheaves?

If there is insufficient friction, a possible modification might be to drill into the slot/groove all around to create teeth. See sketch. Drill size and spacing is engineering far beyond my capability. Gut feel is between ½” and 5/8” diameter and 12 to 16 in total.

I am also a bit concerned about sharp edges chafing the line. May soften them a bit with sandpaper.

Thoughts so far pending other’s insightful comments.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 5:29 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

 

 

Yeah...I bought a set and I'm thinking the same thing, but maybe using Vectran with a polyester cover and pulled tight it may be OK....

I'm not back on the boat until the end of January, I'll install them then, test them out and report back.

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Peter,

Can you tell us what type and size of line you used ?

Cheers
Alan
Elys SM437


Re: Looking for a Super Maramu or 54

tango708@...
 

I have a SM that is for sale.  I can be reached at 206.841.9556 boat is in Annapolis, MD.

Regards,
Will Stout
SM Anni Bea True
For Sale in Annapolis


Re: Looking for a Super Maramu or 54

pjn.mccallin@...
 

Should a one owner 2003 S M 2000 be of interest please contact me pjn.mccallin@.... Not sure if I would compare a S M to the 54, no doubt others will give their opinions!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking for a Super Maramu or 54

Mark Erdos
 

If in the USA, I would suggest you make contact with Joel Potter and Bill Rouse.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 9:15 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking for a Super Maramu or 54

 

 

Please message me if you're looking to sell a Super Maramu or 54.


Looking for a Super Maramu or 54

tom@...
 

Please message me if you're looking to sell a Super Maramu or 54.


Re: Rubber caps for Lofrans

carcodespam@...
 

Hi Ian + Judy,

I come the 17. Februrary to Kalamata, Greece and can bring you one or two of these:

Gerhard
Sharki #60, actually Kalamata, Greece


Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Peter de Groot
 

For what it’s worth, this 18 month Amel newbie installed one and been out twice in light winds, dry conditions.  So far no slipping.

After first installing, I tried to get it to slip manually, but it held and my confidence up a notch.

I’ll report back after going through some tougher conditions.

 

Peter de Groot

La Querida SM#207

Moss Landing ,CA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing House batteries in Martinique

Kelly Ran
 

James,

You may want to call a customs broker or somehow figure out if batteries are exempt from VAT. We were advised that many electrical components (like solar panels and charge controllers) are exempt from the 8.5% vat. Recently we forwarded a bunch of cargo from the US to MQ and paid roughly 2% in VAT. We could not get an itemized receipt for the tax, so we are unsure whether we paid the lesser 2.1% rate on the whole shipment, OR if we were completely exempt for most of the shipment and paid 8.5% on the non-electrical items. 

We were also advised that it's not worth the brokerage fees to initiate the PST process (for tax-free import) unless you are bringing in more than roughly 4000 euro in goods. We were also advised that "yacht in transit" is not a guarantee of anything. 

Shipping from the US will be another issue. You may run into issues trying to air ship lithium ion batteries.

Are you planning on hiring someone to install the batteries? If you are getting other work done, you might want to use the PA process for VAT-free labor and parts. Then you can have your contractor import the batteries themselves and then bill you for it. The break-even threshold is 6000 euro for all labor and parts. (It costs 500 euro to do this process, and VAT would be 8.5%. AFAIK Douglas Yacht Service is the only place in Martinique that is authorized to perform the PA process.)

Good luck
kelly + ryan
sm233 Iteration
MQ

On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, 18:27 Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Mark,

Most of the batteries sold in the islands are  made in China, because their much cheaper for the locals. However good  than in the USA batteries, electronics anchors etc are also from China sold in the USA.

I have never found a problem with YIT. They may protest some, but with some urging and the right paperwork (proof of purchase for one ) I always got it.  

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 3:04 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing House batteries in Martinique

 

 

Ric,

 

Most islands do not recognize YIT. Some require the hiring of an agent to obtain YIT exemptions. This will add to the cost and along with freight will put batteries about 40-50% hirer than USA prices.

 

In addition, trying to find fresh batteries in the island can prove to be a challenge in itself. Before any battery purchase understand what the manufactures coding is and determin how long they have been on the shelf.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 1:03 PM
To: 'amelyachtowners@...'
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing House batteries in Martinique

 

 

James,

Generally There is no tax on equipment shipped when marked “yacht in Transit”. Batteries are heavy and may face more scrutiny. Check with DHL too, Things may have changed a little since my visits. You can also get fuel tax free before or after you have checked out of the country.. Helps with Rum budget

Ric Gottschalk

Bali Hai SN

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 11:30 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing House batteries in Martinique

 

 

Happy Holidays fellow Amel owners. 

 

I would like to ask the group for advice on obtaining house batteries in Martinique.  

I am interested in upgrading my batteries to Firefly or some brand of lithium ion, though I doubt that such options would be available in Martinique (perhaps I am wrong? )

 

Otherwise, I would need to ship them in, though I understand the import tax is significant.  

What have others done in this situation? 

 

Happy New Year.

James

SV Soteria #347

currently in North Exumas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing House batteries in Martinique

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

Mark,

Most of the batteries sold in the islands are  made in China, because their much cheaper for the locals. However good  than in the USA batteries, electronics anchors etc are also from China sold in the USA.

I have never found a problem with YIT. They may protest some, but with some urging and the right paperwork (proof of purchase for one ) I always got it.  

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 3:04 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing House batteries in Martinique

 

 

Ric,

 

Most islands do not recognize YIT. Some require the hiring of an agent to obtain YIT exemptions. This will add to the cost and along with freight will put batteries about 40-50% hirer than USA prices.

 

In addition, trying to find fresh batteries in the island can prove to be a challenge in itself. Before any battery purchase understand what the manufactures coding is and determin how long they have been on the shelf.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 1:03 PM
To: 'amelyachtowners@...'
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing House batteries in Martinique

 

 

James,

Generally There is no tax on equipment shipped when marked “yacht in Transit”. Batteries are heavy and may face more scrutiny. Check with DHL too, Things may have changed a little since my visits. You can also get fuel tax free before or after you have checked out of the country.. Helps with Rum budget

Ric Gottschalk

Bali Hai SN

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 11:30 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing House batteries in Martinique

 

 

Happy Holidays fellow Amel owners. 

 

I would like to ask the group for advice on obtaining house batteries in Martinique.  

I am interested in upgrading my batteries to Firefly or some brand of lithium ion, though I doubt that such options would be available in Martinique (perhaps I am wrong? )

 

Otherwise, I would need to ship them in, though I understand the import tax is significant.  

What have others done in this situation? 

 

Happy New Year.

James

SV Soteria #347

currently in North Exumas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing House batteries in Martinique

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

There are some things cheaper in the islands if they are Duty free, like dinghy motors (japanese) in St Maarten. However if you buy something in the USA and ship “yacht in transit” there is no import tax. I have shipped a Nex-Gen 3 kw generator, big solar panels, 60 qt .Engel coolers,  etc  to  places like St. Maarten, Tortola, and to Trinidad and not have to pay import tax.  And, of course, carried with me when flying to my boat in  the islands enough gear, including a life raft, that they thought I had 3 wives  (sorry girls, it’s a metaphor)  Basically shipping from the USA to a US flagged  yacht  . Tell if I missed anything.  I would check to see if the batteries are mfg outside  the USA and buy direct

Ric

Bali Hai SN 24

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 3:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing House batteries in Martinique

 

 

Agree with Mark that prices in the US will be very much lower.  I didn't suggest sailing back because, while it will likely be a smooth ride back...turning around to get to MQ or Windward Islands will be a more challenging sail.  Or well maybe not.  If you have time it might make sense.

 

On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, 4:46 PM 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

James,

 

If you are in North Exumas, why not just sail to Ft. Lauderdale or Miami. It’ll probably save you at least $2,000 on any set of batteries you purchase throughout the islands. It’s just a 3 day sail. Or, Puerto Rico will have options.

 

I am not going to comment on the battery types you mentioned. Those would not be my first choices for many reasons.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 12:30 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing House batteries in Martinique

 

 

Happy Holidays fellow Amel owners. 

 

I would like to ask the group for advice on obtaining house batteries in Martinique.  

I am interested in upgrading my batteries to Firefly or some brand of lithium ion, though I doubt that such options would be available in Martinique (perhaps I am wrong? )

 

Otherwise, I would need to ship them in, though I understand the import tax is significant.  

What have others done in this situation? 

 

Happy New Year.

James

SV Soteria #347

currently in North Exumas