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Re: Head sail furling, Heading to S Pacific

Miles
 

Hi Kent,

 

I will try to draw a sketch.   I recall that I put two blocks on the first or second starboard station base.  The lines then run straight down the deck and attach to the bungee that continues to the big aft cleat.   I found that I had to tie the knot just aft of the forward block on the line that would be running aft as the sail furled so it didn’t run through a block.   I am a bit fuzzy as I last used this about 15 years ago after the motor drive plate came adrift.

 

Carol sends her best and she and I hope to meet Iris someday.

 

Miles

 

s/y Ladybug, sm 216
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TMD22 Turbo

Steve Harmon <caliber33@...>
 

Thanks Bill, I did buy the CHAR cartridge just under $300.00

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎January‎ ‎3‎, ‎2019‎ ‎02‎:‎21‎:‎20‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Mark,

It was Mark McGovern who did the research for the TMD 22.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 12:27 PM 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

 

Good info!!!

 

Does your client have a kit for the Yanmar 4JH4-HTE?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 11:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TMD22 Turbo

 

 

Steve,

 

Another Amel School client, who, BTW is in the turbo business researched this for a Super Maramu TMD-22 client and reported this information:

 

"Based on that, the best choices for your clients as I see them are:

1.  Buy a new replacement for $1544 ($1844 with a $300 refund when the send back their old turbo): http://www.invasionautoproducts.com/petrtbtu464.html

2.  Get a $350 rebuild:  http://gpopshop.com/services/rebuilding/

If it were me, I would most likely choose #3.  It's basically a brand new turbo for $295 and some elbow grease.  They just need to see if the wastegate works and that there is no damage to the exhaust and compressor housings after removal and cleaning."

 

I believe this is the best information available.

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:44 PM pandmdegroot@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

My TMD22 has a Garrett 466770-0006S turbo on it.  I purchased a new “cartridge”  (compressor/turbine and bearing block) for $300.  I’m waiting for the gaskets to arrive from Volvo, so I can’t tell you if it’s a success or not.  I could not find a complete “rebuild kit” on line anywhere. Feel free to contact me if you would like more supplier details on the cartridge supplier. They are in North Hollywood California.

 

Peter de Groot

La Querida SM207

Moss Landing, CA
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Head sail furling, Heading to S Pacific

karkauai
 

Very interesting, Miles, I don’t quite picture the bungee and block, and don’t understand how the lines run down the deck. I assume that there are more blocks along the rail, but that begs the question  how and where the two ends of the furling line combine to make a loop.  A knot wouldn’t go through a block on the rail.

If anyone else uses this setup, I’d love to see some pics or a sketch.

Thanks and Happy New Year Miles, and my best to Carol.

Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Jan 4, 2019, at 12:53 PM, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

 

Your upcoming adventures sound wonderful.  I am a bit jealous.

 

Re: the furling, Ladybug came with a long black and white furling line.  I am not on the boat so I don’t know what it is.  It may well be polyester.  It is the same line that attaches to the main halyard to allow dropping the sail.   This line goes around the furler, then to two blocks on the front starboard side and back along the deck.  The elastic bungee that holds the passerelle attaches to the rear starboard cleat.  Another block attaches to the bungee and to the furling line that is now tied into one big loop.  Take several loops around the main winch or the small  winch.  The bungee provides sufficient tension (not a lot) for rolling in the sail.   I have only used this once and it worked very well.  It didn’t slip on the furler.

 

Please ask me questions if this is not clear.  I will be back on the boat in 10 days and will be more helpful then.

 

Regards and fair winds,

 

Miles

 s/y Ladybug, SM 216  lying in Le Marin, Martinique
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow nav light re-wiring

Craig Briggs
 

Well, Thomas, you got some interesting replies:

 

Joe and Tracie Cloudstreet were able to simply pull out the old wire, attaching a chase (line, I presume) to then pull the new wire back up. The wire went around the bow, so, presumably, there is only one hole in the deck on the port side. They don’t note if there is a splice at the port side light for the wire to continue around the bow over to the starboard side, or, perhaps, there are two sets of wires, both going through the port side deck hole.

 

Paul and Sue LaFrance (nee Nomad), simply tied a leader line to the wire (presumably at the light fixture) and were able to pull it back through the deck, tie a new wire on and pull it back up. They’ve also got a SM, but don’t mention the wire going around the bow, nor if they rewired both sides.

 

Neither sound like they encountered any Amel installed silicone nor had anything like the very difficult extraction I encountered. I doubt this is a difference between their SM’s and my SN, but I do hope your experience is as easy as theirs.

 

Let us know what you find.

 

Cheers, Craig

 

 

---In amelyachtowners@..., <sangaris@...> wrote :

Hi Tom,

Yes, removing the bow pulpit is tough - far better to avoid that and, having done it both ways, frankly, it doesn't make the job that much easier.

 

I was able to remove the old wiring without removing the pulpit by just destructively ripping it out a few inches at a time, jerking the wire up and down as I went. I needed to clean up and enlarge the hole at the bottom some with an electric drill as I went along and got a needle nose pliers to grab the small bits. I also used a steel electrical fish tape to ream out the old silicone Amel had used inside of the pulpit tubing - really difficult. Then used the fish tape and to run the new wire.

 

It's one of those frustrating jobs that you just have to keep at until the wire and silicone finally give up.

Check to see if you've got any rust stains on the locker walls where the wires exit. If so there's been some water seeping in where the wire enters the bow pulpit and that is rusting out the carbon steel plate embedded in the toe rail for the pulpit bolts. It may eventually swell up and bulge out or crack the toe rail. Be sure to really seal off the new wires. 

 

After you do the starboard side you'll have the technique down and you can tackle the port side, which will surely not be far behind in deteriorating. 

 

Good luck with it!

Craig Briggs SN68 Sangaris in Ft Pierce, FL



---In amelyachtowners@..., <cloudstreet100@...> wrote :

Hi Thomas,

I had this issue a few years ago.  The wires had corroded (green) all the way back to the junction box in the port locker so I replaced everything from that point.  I don't remember the exact details but it wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be.  I definitely did not have to remove the pulpit.  As Paul & Sue mentioned just attache a chase to the old wire before you pull/push it out.  The wire goes up to the top rail and around the bow.  I think I used some sort of lube on the wire but it went pretty well.

Best of luck,

Joe & Tracie
SV CloudStreet,
SM #331
Grenada

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 1:47 PM Paul LaFrance pflafrance@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thomas
We had a similar re-wiring problem. We simply tied a leader line to the electrical wire and gently pulled it through the opening.  Once through we  re-threaded the new wire back up the stanchion.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
Former owners of SV NOMAD SM#362


From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 10:16 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow nav light re-wiring
 
 

In investigating my starboard nav light failure I've encountered deteriorating wiring. I suspect I will have to remove the pulpit to thread the new wire, but was hoping someone had a miraculous and novel technique for leaving it in place.

Tom Kleman, SV L'ORIENT SM2K 422, Puerto Velero Colombia
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Head sail furling, Heading to S Pacific

Danny Simms
 

Hi Kent,
I know what you mean about the money. It was 8 and 9 years ago but we found everything in the US and the Caribbean very expensive. Central America was cheap so unless its changed I'd suggest you get there as soon as you can. 
Good Luck
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 02:21, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Danny,

Thanks, I’ll experiment a bit and let the group know what I figure out.

Yes we are finally starting our SPac cruise, first leg to Turks and Caicos, thru the Caribbean, Belize, Panama, and thru the Canal.  Will probably go S this Summer to Ecuador and spend some time in S America, then on to the S Pac next Spring.

It seems that no matter how much prep is done, there are always delays like this jib furler problem.  I’m trying not to get too frustrated and hope that finances don’t cut our journey short.

Iris is a good sport and contributes greatly to my state of mind.  She’s also got a great mind for problem-solving and we are becoming a good team. I’m confident we will be in your neck of the woods in a few years as long as the finances don’t give out.

All the best,
Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM 243


On Jan 3, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,
I haven't had to use it so can't answer the tension thing, but if you consider the posts on the  mainsail out-haul it would seem that more tension would help.Likewise the type of rope could be an issue. Ordinary polyester braid would be good for this application since stretch is not an issue. For tension I could imagine a few wraps on the idle winch and holding the tail in one hand while grinding on the other winch with the self tailer engaged would be the method but of course for me that is but a theory.
All the best for the new year. Are you still planning voyaging to the South Pacific?
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
Mangonui New Zealand 

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 03:49, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Yes, Danny, the line is crossed after it leaves the drum.  Do I have to keep a lot of pressure on both sides of the line while furling and unfurling?  When single-handing, cranking on one side, tailing on the other side, and tailing the sheet to get a reasonably tight furl leaves me one hand short.  Admittedly, I’ve only tried it a couple of times so I may not have figured out something obvious.  What’s the trick?

Thank you Duane, I’ll let you know what I find...hope that’s the problem!
Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM243



On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:10 AM, simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent, when you run the manual furling line do you cross it after it leaves the pulley on the forestay. If not you are losing a big part if the rope/ pulley contact friction.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 
Ocean Pearl

On 3/01/2019 08:12, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Kent,


Before you condemn the gearing inside the box, be sure that the drive pin in the furling drum is fully engaging in the drive plate that is mounted on top of the gearbox.  We had our drive plate blow apart a few years ago, and other people have had trouble with the hole rounding over and pushing the pin up.  That sounds like the more likely cause.

Having just had our furling gearbox apart for routine maintenance, I think it very unlikely that the gearing inside the gearbox is the problem.  Certainly possible, but unlikely given what you describe as symptoms.

For the manual furling line, we have 10mm double braid dacron.  That worked great for us on the two occasions we needed it.  I wonder if the StaySet might be too stiff?  7/16" would not be too big.

If you need this unit disassembled and looked at, you might try Nance and Underwood, riggers in Fort Lauderdale.  They know Amel's very well, and Roger Underwood has been a help when we have used him.  If you need a new drive plate, I know they can make one for you.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TMD22 Turbo to Injector Pump tube

Mike Ondra
 

Mark,

I just noticed that I hadn’t followed up after replacing the “smoke limiter” or “boost compensator” tube between the fuel injection pump and the Garrett Turbo. The good news is that replacing the failed tube added about 200 rpm to full throttle.  Bad news is this simple tube from a Volvo dealer cost almost $200.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

St. Augustine, FL

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 3:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TMD22 Turbo to Injector Pump tube

 

 

Mike,

 

I'm somewhat guessing here since the turbocharged gasoline engines that I am most familiar with DO NOT have "smoke limiters".  However, I think that the damaged smoke limiter tube could be the cause of your inability to reach maximum RPM.  The smoke limiter is likely limiting the amount of fuel being injected at low boost pressure.  That is how you reduce smoke on a relatively low compression turbocharged diesel engine.  As you load up the engine and boost pressure rises, that limitation should be removed in order to achieve maximum power.  The tube that you say is damaged is likely the boost pressure "signal" that is used by the smoke limiter to limit fuel injection.  If the tube is not sending the boost signal to the smoke limiter, it would continue to limit fuel delivery even as boost pressure rises.  If fuel delivery is limited, so is power output and maximum RPM.  I would replace the tube.  Assuming the rest of the smoke limiter is working, I think it just might solve your problem.  Let us know either way!



Mark McGovern

SM 440 Cara

Deale, MD USA
Re: Bow nav light re-wiring

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Tom,
Yes, removing the bow pulpit is tough - far better to avoid that and, having done it both ways, frankly, it doesn't make the job that much easier.

I was able to remove the old wiring without removing the pulpit by just destructively ripping it out a few inches at a time, jerking the wire up and down as I went. I needed to clean up and enlarge the hole at the bottom some with an electric drill as I went along and got a needle nose pliers to grab the small bits. I also used a steel electrical fish tape to ream out the old silicone Amel had used inside of the pulpit tubing - really difficult. Then used the fish tape and to run the new wire.

It's one of those frustrating jobs that you just have to keep at until the wire and silicone finally give up.
Check to see if you've got any rust stains on the locker walls where the wires exit. If so there's been some water seeping in where the wire enters the bow pulpit and that is rusting out the carbon steel plate embedded in the toe rail for the pulpit bolts. It may eventually swell up and bulge out or crack the toe rail. Be sure to really seal off the new wires. 

After you do the starboard side you'll have the technique down and you can tackle the port side, which will surely not be far behind in deteriorating. 

Good luck with it!
Craig Briggs SN68 Sangaris in Ft Pierce, FL



---In amelyachtowners@..., <no_reply@...> wrote :
In investigating my starboard nav light failure I've encountered deteriorating wiring. I suspect I will have to remove the pulpit to thread the new wire, but was hoping someone had a miraculous and novel technique for leaving it in place.

Tom Kleman, SV L'ORIENT SM2K 422, Puerto Velero Colombia
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re:Heading to S Pacific

karkauai
 

Hi James.
Sounds like we will be in T&C at the same time.  Would like to be in Panama before the hurricane season.

Let’s stay in touch, would love to meet and have a beer/wine/rum

Kent & Iris

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Jan 4, 2019, at 9:56 AM, James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent - when are you projecting you'll be near Panama?  We are heading that way around July - August approximately. We are going to be in Turks and Caicos in about a month. 

Best. 
James
Soteria
SM2k 347. Currently in eleuthera

On Jan 4, 2019 8:21 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Danny,

Thanks, I’ll experiment a bit and let the group know what I figure out.

Yes we are finally starting our SPac cruise, first leg to Turks and Caicos, thru the Caribbean, Belize, Panama, and thru the Canal.  Will probably go S this Summer to Ecuador and spend some time in S America, then on to the S Pac next Spring.

It seems that no matter how much prep is done, there are always delays like this jib furler problem.  I’m trying not to get too frustrated and hope that finances don’t cut our journey short.

Iris is a good sport and contributes greatly to my state of mind.  She’s also got a great mind for problem-solving and we are becoming a good team. I’m confident we will be in your neck of the woods in a few years as long as the finances don’t give out.

All the best,
Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM 243


On Jan 3, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,
I haven't had to use it so can't answer the tension thing, but if you consider the posts on the  mainsail out-haul it would seem that more tension would help.Likewise the type of rope could be an issue. Ordinary polyester braid would be good for this application since stretch is not an issue. For tension I could imagine a few wraps on the idle winch and holding the tail in one hand while grinding on the other winch with the self tailer engaged would be the method but of course for me that is but a theory.
All the best for the new year. Are you still planning voyaging to the South Pacific?
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
Mangonui New Zealand 

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 03:49, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Yes, Danny, the line is crossed after it leaves the drum.  Do I have to keep a lot of pressure on both sides of the line while furling and unfurling?  When single-handing, cranking on one side, tailing on the other side, and tailing the sheet to get a reasonably tight furl leaves me one hand short.  Admittedly, I’ve only tried it a couple of times so I may not have figured out something obvious.  What’s the trick?

Thank you Duane, I’ll let you know what I find...hope that’s the problem!
Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM243



On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:10 AM, simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent, when you run the manual furling line do you cross it after it leaves the pulley on the forestay. If not you are losing a big part if the rope/ pulley contact friction.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 
Ocean Pearl

On 3/01/2019 08:12, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Kent,


Before you condemn the gearing inside the box, be sure that the drive pin in the furling drum is fully engaging in the drive plate that is mounted on top of the gearbox.  We had our drive plate blow apart a few years ago, and other people have had trouble with the hole rounding over and pushing the pin up.  That sounds like the more likely cause.

Having just had our furling gearbox apart for routine maintenance, I think it very unlikely that the gearing inside the gearbox is the problem.  Certainly possible, but unlikely given what you describe as symptoms.

For the manual furling line, we have 10mm double braid dacron.  That worked great for us on the two occasions we needed it.  I wonder if the StaySet might be too stiff?  7/16" would not be too big.

If you need this unit disassembled and looked at, you might try Nance and Underwood, riggers in Fort Lauderdale.  They know Amel's very well, and Roger Underwood has been a help when we have used him.  If you need a new drive plate, I know they can make one for you.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow nav light re-wiring

Joe Nance
 

Hi Thomas,

I had this issue a few years ago.  The wires had corroded (green) all the way back to the junction box in the port locker so I replaced everything from that point.  I don't remember the exact details but it wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be.  I definitely did not have to remove the pulpit.  As Paul & Sue mentioned just attache a chase to the old wire before you pull/push it out.  The wire goes up to the top rail and around the bow.  I think I used some sort of lube on the wire but it went pretty well.

Best of luck,

Joe & Tracie
SV CloudStreet,
SM #331
Grenada

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 1:47 PM Paul LaFrance pflafrance@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thomas
We had a similar re-wiring problem. We simply tied a leader line to the electrical wire and gently pulled it through the opening.  Once through we  re-threaded the new wire back up the stanchion.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
Former owners of SV NOMAD SM#362


From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 10:16 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow nav light re-wiring
 
 

In investigating my starboard nav light failure I've encountered deteriorating wiring. I suspect I will have to remove the pulpit to thread the new wire, but was hoping someone had a miraculous and novel technique for leaving it in place.

Tom Kleman, SV L'ORIENT SM2K 422, Puerto Velero Colombia
Re: Head sail furling, Heading to S Pacific

Miles
 

Hi Kent,

 

Your upcoming adventures sound wonderful.  I am a bit jealous.

 

Re: the furling, Ladybug came with a long black and white furling line.  I am not on the boat so I don’t know what it is.  It may well be polyester.  It is the same line that attaches to the main halyard to allow dropping the sail.   This line goes around the furler, then to two blocks on the front starboard side and back along the deck.  The elastic bungee that holds the passerelle attaches to the rear starboard cleat.  Another block attaches to the bungee and to the furling line that is now tied into one big loop.  Take several loops around the main winch or the small  winch.  The bungee provides sufficient tension (not a lot) for rolling in the sail.   I have only used this once and it worked very well.  It didn’t slip on the furler.

 

Please ask me questions if this is not clear.  I will be back on the boat in 10 days and will be more helpful then.

 

Regards and fair winds,

 

Miles

 s/y Ladybug, SM 216  lying in Le Marin, Martinique
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow nav light re-wiring

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Thomas
We had a similar re-wiring problem. We simply tied a leader line to the electrical wire and gently pulled it through the opening.  Once through we  re-threaded the new wire back up the stanchion.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
Former owners of SV NOMAD SM#362


From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of thomas.kleman
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 10:16 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow nav light re-wiring
 
 

In investigating my starboard nav light failure I've encountered deteriorating wiring. I suspect I will have to remove the pulpit to thread the new wire, but was hoping someone had a miraculous and novel technique for leaving it in place.

Tom Kleman, SV L'ORIENT SM2K 422, Puerto Velero Colombia
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re:Heading to S Pacific

Mark Erdos
 

Kent,

 

While in T&C, if you opt to stay at Turtle Cove Marina, be sure to use the free pilot boat to guide you in (at high tide). Else, Blue Haven is a nice alternative but very expensive and not near anything.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:09 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Cc: Capt Iris Clarke
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re:Heading to S Pacific

 

 

Hi James.

Sounds like we will be in T&C at the same time.  Would like to be in Panama before the hurricane season.

 

Let’s stay in touch, would love to meet and have a beer/wine/rum

 

Kent & Iris

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Jan 4, 2019, at 9:56 AM, James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent - when are you projecting you'll be near Panama?  We are heading that way around July - August approximately. We are going to be in Turks and Caicos in about a month. 

 

Best. 

James

Soteria

SM2k 347. Currently in eleuthera

 

On Jan 4, 2019 8:21 AM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Danny,

Thanks, I’ll experiment a bit and let the group know what I figure out.

 

Yes we are finally starting our SPac cruise, first leg to Turks and Caicos, thru the Caribbean, Belize, Panama, and thru the Canal.  Will probably go S this Summer to Ecuador and spend some time in S America, then on to the S Pac next Spring.

 

It seems that no matter how much prep is done, there are always delays like this jib furler problem.  I’m trying not to get too frustrated and hope that finances don’t cut our journey short.

 

Iris is a good sport and contributes greatly to my state of mind.  She’s also got a great mind for problem-solving and we are becoming a good team. I’m confident we will be in your neck of the woods in a few years as long as the finances don’t give out.

 

All the best,

Kent & Iris

Kristy

SM 243

 


On Jan 3, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

I haven't had to use it so can't answer the tension thing, but if you consider the posts on the  mainsail out-haul it would seem that more tension would help.Likewise the type of rope could be an issue. Ordinary polyester braid would be good for this application since stretch is not an issue. For tension I could imagine a few wraps on the idle winch and holding the tail in one hand while grinding on the other winch with the self tailer engaged would be the method but of course for me that is but a theory.

All the best for the new year. Are you still planning voyaging to the South Pacific?

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

Mangonui New Zealand 

 

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 03:49, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Yes, Danny, the line is crossed after it leaves the drum.  Do I have to keep a lot of pressure on both sides of the line while furling and unfurling?  When single-handing, cranking on one side, tailing on the other side, and tailing the sheet to get a reasonably tight furl leaves me one hand short.  Admittedly, I’ve only tried it a couple of times so I may not have figured out something obvious.  What’s the trick?

 

Thank you Duane, I’ll let you know what I find...hope that’s the problem!

Kent & Iris

Kristy

SM243

 


On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:10 AM, simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent, when you run the manual furling line do you cross it after it leaves the pulley on the forestay. If not you are losing a big part if the rope/ pulley contact friction.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 

Ocean Pearl

 

On 3/01/2019 08:12, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

 

Before you condemn the gearing inside the box, be sure that the drive pin in the furling drum is fully engaging in the drive plate that is mounted on top of the gearbox.  We had our drive plate blow apart a few years ago, and other people have had trouble with the hole rounding over and pushing the pin up.  That sounds like the more likely cause.

 

Having just had our furling gearbox apart for routine maintenance, I think it very unlikely that the gearing inside the gearbox is the problem.  Certainly possible, but unlikely given what you describe as symptoms.

 

For the manual furling line, we have 10mm double braid dacron.  That worked great for us on the two occasions we needed it.  I wonder if the StaySet might be too stiff?  7/16" would not be too big.

 

If you need this unit disassembled and looked at, you might try Nance and Underwood, riggers in Fort Lauderdale.  They know Amel's very well, and Roger Underwood has been a help when we have used him.  If you need a new drive plate, I know they can make one for you.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA

 

 
Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

mfmcgovern@...
 

James,

We are still good.  I'll shoot you an email.

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA
Re: Galapagos

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Heinz,
Don't forget to sail THRU Leon Dormido (aka Kicker Rock) on your way to Puerto Baquerizo Moreno then jump in for a dip. 
Cheers, Craig Briggs SN68
Bow nav light re-wiring

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

In investigating my starboard nav light failure I've encountered deteriorating wiring. I suspect I will have to remove the pulpit to thread the new wire, but was hoping someone had a miraculous and novel technique for leaving it in place.

Tom Kleman, SV L'ORIENT SM2K 422, Puerto Velero Colombia
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

James Cromie <jamescromie@...>
 

Mark - I'd be interested in a pair of pulleys if you have enough material for another set. 
My contact is Jamescromie "at" Yahoo dot com

Please let me know  Thanks! 

James
Soteria sm2k  #347

On Jan 4, 2019 10:19 AM, "mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Danny,


Thanks for the endorsement.  It does seem like an odd choice of both material (Aluminum) and the manufacturing process (Casting vs.Machining) especially in light of all the excellent engineering choices made in the design and construction of Amels.

In any case, I am proceeding to make a set of 316 Stainless Steel pulleys for myself and for a few other owners who reached out to me.  My materials supplier had a drop (short stick) of 4" diameter 316L Stainless Steel on hand which will allow me to make a set of pulleys for myself and for the owners that have contacted me.  It will also allow me to make a few sets of spare pulleys "on the shelf" and available for immediate shipment.  The cost will be US$190/pulley.  I expect to have them completed on or around January 18th.  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Galapagos

Heinz Stutenbäumer <heinz@...>
 

Hallo

first of all thanks for the quick answers to all.

Of course I know the reports on noonside and the books of Jimmy Cornell. but I think it's always better to get first hand news from sailors who have been there recently, because I read that the basics change monthly on Galapagos. I would be grateful if anyone could contribute to this.

For example, does anyone know anything about Ill Malpelo? can you moor there?

Heinz

Quetzal SM 2000 292

Von: amelyachtowners@...
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Januar 2019 17:32
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Galapagos

 

 

Heinz,

 

The agent in Galapagos is Ricardo Arenas and his email address ricardo@...

 

This guy is the referent agent of the Workd ARC and we found him very reliable 

 

Fair winds

 

Donato 

Ocean Bird #468

Now in Sidney 

 

Il giorno ven 4 gen 2019 alle 14:42 heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Hello everyone and happy new year, 

We plan to sail to Galapagos in late February. 

Does anyone know a good agent and mail address in Galapagos? There are so many rumours circulating on the internet that it would be nice to get some reasonable information. 

Thanks, fair Winds 

Heinz 

Quetzal, SM 2000, 292
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

mfmcgovern@...
 

Redouan,

I will have enough to send you a set.  Email me your shipping address at mfmcgovern@... (mfmcgovern at gmail dot com).  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., <Stella.AmelSM359@...> wrote :

Hi Mark,

I am interested to get a set of these pulleys in SS if it is still possible.
I would have them shipped to the Baleares.

Regards,

Redouan Assar
Stella SM359

On 4 Jan 2019, at 17:19, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Danny,


Thanks for the endorsement.  It does seem like an odd choice of both material (Aluminum) and the manufacturing process (Casting vs.Machining) especially in light of all the excellent engineering choices made in the design and construction of Amels.

In any case, I am proceeding to make a set of 316 Stainless Steel pulleys for myself and for a few other owners who reached out to me.  My materials supplier had a drop (short stick) of 4" diameter 316L Stainless Steel on hand which will allow me to make a set of pulleys for myself and for the owners that have contacted me.  It will also allow me to make a few sets of spare pulleys "on the shelf" and available for immediate shipment.  The cost will be US$190/pulley.  I expect to have them completed on or around January 18th.  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Mark,

If the extras have not already been spoken for, I’ll take a set. Let me know if you still have some available, and I will provide you with shipping info and payment. Thanks for taking on this project. 

Regards,

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Ko Olina, Hawaii

On Jan 4, 2019, at 05:19, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Danny,


Thanks for the endorsement.  It does seem like an odd choice of both material (Aluminum) and the manufacturing process (Casting vs.Machining) especially in light of all the excellent engineering choices made in the design and construction of Amels.

In any case, I am proceeding to make a set of 316 Stainless Steel pulleys for myself and for a few other owners who reached out to me.  My materials supplier had a drop (short stick) of 4" diameter 316L Stainless Steel on hand which will allow me to make a set of pulleys for myself and for the owners that have contacted me.  It will also allow me to make a few sets of spare pulleys "on the shelf" and available for immediate shipment.  The cost will be US$190/pulley.  I expect to have them completed on or around January 18th.  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Galapagos

Donato Valente
 

Heinz,

The agent in Galapagos is Ricardo Arenas and his email address ricardo@...

This guy is the referent agent of the Workd ARC and we found him very reliable 

Fair winds

Donato 
Ocean Bird #468
Now in Sidney 

Il giorno ven 4 gen 2019 alle 14:42 heinz@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:
 

Hello everyone and happy new year, 

We plan to sail to Galapagos in late February. 

Does anyone know a good agent and mail address in Galapagos? There are so many rumours circulating on the internet that it would be nice to get some reasonable information. 

Thanks, fair Winds 

Heinz 

Quetzal, SM 2000, 292
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