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Re: Rough engine at idle

Gary Wells
 

.... annnnd... I forgot my signature ;)

Gary W.
S/V Adagio, SM #209
Virgin Gorda


Re: Rough engine at idle

Gary Wells
 

I can't say about the actual rough idle, but I ~thought~ I had a rough idle.  Turned out that the metal exhaust muffler was just touching, and therefore rattling, on the engine room floor.  A new piece of insulating pad solved that.
Second, I just had the visually 'ok' looking motor mounts on Adagio changed out in Martinique.  The mechanic threw everything ounce of his weight into the motor to check the mounts, and I was surprised how far he got the engine to wiggle.  After that, he said 'the mounts are good' so, it takes heroic effort to get the motor to move around :).
We did find one point that was weeping a tiny bit of oil, so I opted to swap them all (6).  Also changed out the donuts in the coupler and the vibration dampener on the flywheel.
The results, while I wouldn't say 'dramatic', were quite noticeable at idle and it really does run more smoothly overall now. I have to learn the new sounds :)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Mike Ondra
 

Hi Mark,

I am going to hold off on ordering the stainless sheaves for now since I already have Bernard’s PETP pulleys and his additional explanation below which I will test out and perhaps modify if necessary. In the event this doesn’t work do you think your machine shop would take orders at a later date?

For those who have ordered or are using Bernard’s PETP sheaves,  what have been the success or failure results? His updated installation instructions are attached.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

St. Augustine, FL

Home port: Rock Hall, MD

 

Hi Mike

I was away with a daughter to country skiing in mountains...

I had a phone call with Jean-Luc Mertz who installed first these pulleys with me and I looked at the message of Peter you join.

 

Peter used ropes with too small diameter 3/8" equals 9.52 mm, and according to Jean-Luc and I, did not pull enough on the rope (which is probably too soft and extensible). I would advice him to use a rope compatible with the wedge principle.

 

The principle of wedge contact of a cable or a rope is universally used in elevators, electric motors,..., and needs a minimum of pairing between the pulley and the rope.

 

A good pairing needs :

- a tight rope of aramid fibers with diameter of minimum 10 mm, never less,

- a rope with a maximum extension of 2% at half load and

- a rope tension above a few kN.

 

Due to the mechanical thinning of the rope when tensioned (Poisson

coefficient) the rope must be tight enough to not reduce its transversal dimension too much.

Outside these rules good working is only chance.

 

I have joined the updated manual.

 

Wish you an Happy New Year.

Bernard

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Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

mfmcgovern@...
 

Paul, Vladimir, and Ian,

You guys are good.  I will send you emails offline.

Thanks to you all for the support on this project.

Mark McGovern
SM#440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: what's the best line for my mainsail boom?

greatketch@...
 

Alex,

New England Ropes makes a Vectran cored line called "V-100" that has very low stretch, a high friction polyester cover, is available in 12 mm, is very tolerant of going around the small diameter sheaves in the mainsheet system, and is easy to splice.  It is a very "solid" line with no tendency to squash down under load.

There are other lines that are also suitable, but this is the one I have been using with good success on the Amel outhauls and travelers.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
North Bimini, Bahamas

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] what's the best line for my mainsail boom?

 

Alex,

Originally on early 54s the line was 10mm kevlar core, polyester sheath.

Amel now recommends 12mm. You probably will not find kevlar. Use a core fiber that has the less stretch.

Do you know how to correctly rig the outhaul? Do you have my procedures?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, Jan 6, 2019, 10:51 Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Dear Amelians, 

I had all lines of my 54 replaced two years ago in Florida. It turns out that the line in the boom which is pulling the mainsail ,doesn't hold the sail in its position, even if the sail is under normal pressure. In relatively light winds already, the line slides around the pullies and the sail looses the desired shape.

Can anyone tell me what the original line was that AMEL used or what your best practices and experience is in case you also replaced that line?

Fair winds,
Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15


what's the best line for my mainsail boom?

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Dear Amelians, 

I had all lines of my 54 replaced two years ago in Florida. It turns out that the line in the boom which is pulling the mainsail ,doesn't hold the sail in its position, even if the sail is under normal pressure. In relatively light winds already, the line slides around the pullies and the sail looses the desired shape.

Can anyone tell me what the original line was that AMEL used or what your best practices and experience is in case you also replaced that line?

Fair winds,
Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Ian Townsend
 

Mark, I'd be interested if it's still possible. Thx.

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153

On Jan 4, 2019, at 10:19 AM, mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Danny,


Thanks for the endorsement.  It does seem like an odd choice of both material (Aluminum) and the manufacturing process (Casting vs.Machining) especially in light of all the excellent engineering choices made in the design and construction of Amels.

In any case, I am proceeding to make a set of 316 Stainless Steel pulleys for myself and for a few other owners who reached out to me.  My materials supplier had a drop (short stick) of 4" diameter 316L Stainless Steel on hand which will allow me to make a set of pulleys for myself and for the owners that have contacted me.  It will also allow me to make a few sets of spare pulleys "on the shelf" and available for immediate shipment.  The cost will be US$190/pulley.  I expect to have them completed on or around January 18th.  

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I am also interested.

SM 345 "Life is Good"
Vladimir Sonsev
202 258 1916

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019, 3:47 AM carpathia3@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Hi Mark,

I would be interested in two pulleys too, if you still have a couple available! Shipping to France or US if easier. I will write to your email. Mine is carpathia3 at yahoo dot com.

Many thanks for your help on this!

Guillaume
s/v Carpathia III
SM2K #293

Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Cathy & Guillaume
 

Hi Mark,

I would be interested in two pulleys too, if you still have a couple available! Shipping to France or US if easier. I will write to your email. Mine is carpathia3 at yahoo dot com.

Many thanks for your help on this!

Guillaume
s/v Carpathia III
SM2K #293

Re: Toe pulley (headsail)

Paul Stascavage
 

Mark,

I would like a pair as well if they are not all spoken for.

Thank you for all your efforts on this one.

Please shoot me an email when you have a chance (paul dot stascavage at icloud dot com)

All the best,

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising St Augustine, FL

www.RitaKathryn.com

Re: Head sail furling, Heading to S Pacific

Miles
 

HI Kent,

 

I don’t remember if I added another outboard block back near the winch.  I don’t think so.  There should not be much force on the line and I usually pulled it in manually—at least after the initial furling.  The loops over the winch keep it from unfurling again when you stop pulling.   If you are sailing partly furled, you will want to use the small winch.

 

Miles

 

s/y Ladybug

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 50

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Dean;

 

We are wintering in Corfu and will start cruising the Ionian and then the Adriatic in June.

 

My e-mail address is mshirloo “at” transpacific”dot”us If you’d like to stay in contact, please send a private e-mail and we can share contact information. May be we can hookup somewhere.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 9:39 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 50

 

 

Hi Mohammad,

We bought the 54 in late 2017, and cruised for 6 months in Greece last summer.  

Much like you, we are very impressed with the boat. The more we learned the more we liked.

Cheers
Dean

SV STELLA

A54-154.  

 

Departing Preveza in April for Northern Europe. 

Re: Rubber caps for Lofrans [10 Attachments]

carcodespam@...
 

Alan

I found it at Amazon Germany:
It has a rubber cap but the switch is made in plastic.
This one has a better quality (made in brass) but is more expensive:

BTW they are not switches but push-buttons.
(Push to stop the engine, push and hold to turn the windlass.)

Gerhard
Sharki #60

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow nav light re-wiring

karkauai
 

I had forgotten the vacuum trick Eric.  I really like that one too!!

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Jan 5, 2019, at 1:57 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Tom,

We have replaced the starboard wire twice and the port one once.

One of the secrets is to use the European round wire vs the USA flat wire.

I am not a fan at the present time to use LED lights as the ones I have seen are not sealed against sea water. So I just used the exact same wire to replace mine.

I used a very strong thin line continuously  taped about 1 foot down the end of the wire.

The rope was entirely covered with electrical tape and I wrapped it so it was pointed where the wire ended and the rope continued. . It was a marlow rope about 1/16 inch or slightly bigger .it comes in a small spool.

 

The second time I replaced the starboard wire, I soldered the ends together and stripped off the jacket of the wire. I then again used  a very small rope tied with a long bowline to the soldered connection. . I used some tape to clean up the configuration ant it worked very well.

 

It is very important to put a lot of dish washing soap on the wire and pull it back and forth to lubricate the openings. If there is a grommet in the stanchion remove it and seal it when done with silicone.

 

If my memory serves me correctly the port light wire runs down the same stanchion and through the same hole in the deck.  In my case the steel imbedded in the fiberglass under the stanchion base expanded due to salt water intrusion.  I cut back the glass remove the rusted plate and replaced the fiberglass. I then fabricated a Stainless steel plate and mounted it on the outside of the fiberglass. There is no more rust and

everything has been good for quite a few years. The only caution is to be gentle as you pull the wire. If yo feel it binding. Pull it back and see what is causing the problem with your splice.

 

On my previous boat, not an Amel. I used a vacuum cleaner to suck a thin line with a few knots in it through the stanchion.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of thomas.kleman
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 12:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow nav light re-wiring

 

 

In investigating my starboard nav light failure I've encountered deteriorating wiring. I suspect I will have to remove the pulpit to thread the new wire, but was hoping someone had a miraculous and novel technique for leaving it in place.

Tom Kleman, SV L'ORIENT SM2K 422, Puerto Velero Colombia

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow nav light re-wiring

eric freedman
 

Hi Tom,

We have replaced the starboard wire twice and the port one once.

One of the secrets is to use the European round wire vs the USA flat wire.

I am not a fan at the present time to use LED lights as the ones I have seen are not sealed against sea water. So I just used the exact same wire to replace mine.

I used a very strong thin line continuously  taped about 1 foot down the end of the wire.

The rope was entirely covered with electrical tape and I wrapped it so it was pointed where the wire ended and the rope continued. . It was a marlow rope about 1/16 inch or slightly bigger .it comes in a small spool.

 

The second time I replaced the starboard wire, I soldered the ends together and stripped off the jacket of the wire. I then again used  a very small rope tied with a long bowline to the soldered connection. . I used some tape to clean up the configuration ant it worked very well.

 

It is very important to put a lot of dish washing soap on the wire and pull it back and forth to lubricate the openings. If there is a grommet in the stanchion remove it and seal it when done with silicone.

 

If my memory serves me correctly the port light wire runs down the same stanchion and through the same hole in the deck.  In my case the steel imbedded in the fiberglass under the stanchion base expanded due to salt water intrusion.  I cut back the glass remove the rusted plate and replaced the fiberglass. I then fabricated a Stainless steel plate and mounted it on the outside of the fiberglass. There is no more rust and

everything has been good for quite a few years. The only caution is to be gentle as you pull the wire. If yo feel it binding. Pull it back and see what is causing the problem with your splice.

 

On my previous boat, not an Amel. I used a vacuum cleaner to suck a thin line with a few knots in it through the stanchion.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of thomas.kleman
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 12:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow nav light re-wiring

 

 

In investigating my starboard nav light failure I've encountered deteriorating wiring. I suspect I will have to remove the pulpit to thread the new wire, but was hoping someone had a miraculous and novel technique for leaving it in place.

Tom Kleman, SV L'ORIENT SM2K 422, Puerto Velero Colombia

Re: Amel 50

Dean Gillies
 

Hi Mohammad,
We bought the 54 in late 2017, and cruised for 6 months in Greece last summer.  
Much like you, we are very impressed with the boat. The more we learned the more we liked.
Cheers
Dean
SV STELLA
A54-154.  

Departing Preveza in April for Northern Europe. 

Re: Rubber caps for Lofrans [10 Attachments]

svcharisma
 

Gerhard 
If you said already, I don't see it.  Can you tell me where you purchased the new starter switch for your Perkins?  I need a new rubber cap for mine, as well.

Alan, 
sv Charisma
Mango #62

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 50

Mohammad Shirloo
 

HI Dean;

 

Congratulations. You will not be disappointed. We are more impressed with each passing year.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:44 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 50

 

 

Dean,

 

You  bought a world cruiser. 😁


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 16:49 Trifin trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

That’s a great result!!

The boat does look great. We considered it seriously. We visited the first hull in the factory in 2017, but decided we didn’t want to buy a boat so early in the production cycle, and also felt (rightly or wrongly) the 54 was a better world cruiser. The factory visit to see the 50 cemented our decision to buy an Amel. Very impressed.

Dean SV Stella A54-154

X

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Galapagos [2 Attachments]

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Hi Porter,
   Those pictures are from 2001, and that's our daughter swimming. She was in the Peace Corps in Ecuador, so, of course, we had to go. What a super time!
   From what I read the government hasn't changed much with "local interpretations" of regulations being highly variable and harbor masters being rather, er, sleepy. We did arrange, with virtually no interest from a harbormaster, a cruisers alert for some fishermen whose engine had died and were drifting toward the Marquesas for a week. It worked and they were rescued. Harbormaster dozed on.
    We also spent a few days anchored by ourselves in Isla Santa Fe, which has no town, but 1000's of Lobos del mare - sea lions, who are too cute and love to buzz you while you snorkel.  Plus a few weeks in other anchorages - beyond description! {Yes, you can wiggle a white tipped reef shark by his tail while he sleeps.)
   Our last stop was the northernmost island - Isla Darwin, with huge schools of hammerhead sharks. Wow!  From Darwin we continued NW to Baja Mexico, which Jimmy Cornell's World Cruising Routes says you can't do. We had two weeks of perfect 24/7 off-wind sailing with the balooner and genoa. Rolled them up together each noon for a swim in cobalt blues seas. 
  The one very positive government action we came across was the confiscation of a Honduran boat that was cutting off shark fins and leaving the sharks to die - to sell the fins to the far east "aphrodisiacs" market - disgusting.
  So don't hesitate to push the boat out a bit on your visit.  Our daughter's advice was, "You're always good for one "lo ciento", although we never had to offer one.
Cheers, Craig SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <portermcroberts@...> wrote :

Fantastic Tip Craig!
Appreciated! We’ll be headed that way hopefully soon with a new Volvo engine.
I know it was for Heinz, but we’ll tag along!

Thank you

Porter
S/V IBIS
54-152

Excuse the errors.
Sent from my IPhone
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> On Jan 4, 2019, at 12:22 PM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
>
> Puerto Baquerizo Moreno