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Re: [Amel] Yanmar 100HP engine oil change

Dr. Seidel <mseidel@...>
 

Re synthetic oil. I went to the yanmar course that Yanmar gives at ? 2-3 locations. This one fortunately was in Wilmington NC. Larry , the expert, said no advantage, costly, don't do it. Murray Seidel. If you need to know exactly what he said , I can get my notes and call him. 910-470-1225

----- Original Message -----
From: hkornberg
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: [Amel] Yanmar 100HP engine oil change


Hello, I have an SM200 with the Yanmar 4JH3 engine having about
2000HRS. To increase the oil change intervals, I have envisaged the use
of Synthetic lubricant. Any experience in using synthetic oil?


Re: Hella fans

Howard Berger
 

Here's an address for the Caframo fans:

http://www.caframo.com/marine/marine_products.php

Howard Berger
s/v Jazz
Maramu 144


Re: [Amel] Re:Hella fans

Horst Pause <horst.puddleduck@...>
 

Available from Westmarine - just ordered mine there




________________________________
From: ladyannila <kanalmamman@hotmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 30 November, 2008 14:01:06
Subject: [Amel] Re:Hella fans


Hi
is it possible that you have a web or mail adress or phone number for
those Caframo fans?

/Ann-Sofie & Jonas
S/Y Lady Annila
SM 232

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, "Ken & Judy" <goldendaze@ ...>
wrote:

Caframo fans made in Canada.
about 30 to 40 USD. Open rubber blade is easy to clean and
about the same or more wind. 2 speed. We are replacing all
with either the black or white. We have 13 fans. I will be
glad when all the Hell-a are gone.
Golden Daze
Maramu 192
Marmaris Turkey


Re: Hella fans

ladyannila <kanalmamman@...>
 

Hi
is it possible that you have a web or mail adress or phone number for
those Caframo fans?


/Ann-Sofie & Jonas
S/Y Lady Annila
SM 232


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ken & Judy" <goldendaze@...>
wrote:

Caframo fans made in Canada.
about 30 to 40 USD. Open rubber blade is easy to clean and
about the same or more wind. 2 speed. We are replacing all
with either the black or white. We have 13 fans. I will be
glad when all the Hell-a are gone.
Golden Daze
Maramu 192
Marmaris Turkey


Re: [Amel] Deck Construction

ladyannila <kanalmamman@...>
 

As the current owner of the SM with hull no 232, we will just say
thank you for the information of the deck construction.

Regards
Ann-Sofie and Jonas
S/Y Lady Annila
SM 232



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Boucharlat"
<jean.boucharlat@...> wrote:

To the best of my knowledge in the late 70's and early 80's Amel
used to
build both types of decks, balsa cored and straight FRP. The balsa
cored
decks used to be an option for better insulation and they called it
"Tropical" or something similar. In 1981, I ordered a Maramu,
delivered in
October of that year, with the balsa core option. Later on, they
standardized production to balsa cored decks only and this is how
my (1998
model, hull 232), and all other, SM's came.

In order to know if a particular boat of that period was cored or
FRP only
you would probably have to check directly with the yard, they keep
excellent
records.



Jean Boucharlat


Re: [Amel] Re: Yanmar 100HP engine oil change

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Bill,
thanks so much for info and support.
You know, our engine are always a little big mistery to unveil !
all the best
Giovanni

----- Origi,nal Message -----
From: svbebe
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 12:34 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Yanmar 100HP engine oil change


Hi Giovammi,

Yes, I received 2 binders. One has a printed copy of the PowerPoint
presentation that was given and the other is a shop manual type of binder.

I am fairly sure that these items are copyrighted. However, if they
are not I will see about scanning them and posting them on this
website. I will have an opportunity to do that when we fly from New
Zealand to the US in December.

Best,

Bill Rouse,
s/v BeBe
anchored Opua, New Zealand

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Giovanni Testa"
<gtesta23@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
> during the workshop did you received Yanmar documentation to post
for Group ?
> Your experince may be very practical for Yanmar 4JH3 owners.
> Thanks so much
> Giovanni TESTA
> s/v EUTIKIA SM2k n 428
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: svbebe
> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:59 PM
> Subject: [Amel] Re: Yanmar 100HP engine oil change
>
>
> I attended a 3-day diesel workshop sponsored by Yanmar. I worked on,
> assembled, and disassembled a 4JH3-HTE for 3 days. The class
> consisted of 12 folks, but I was the only one who owned a 4JH3-HTE so
> I received 1 on 1 time.
>
> It is easy to get confused on this issue because Yanmar makes some
> engines that use synthetic oil, but not the 4JH3-HTE.
>
> According to the Yanmar instructor, Yanmar reccomends against use of
> synthetic oil in the 4JH3-HTE. I believe it has something to do with
> the Turbo, but not 100% sure. He said that if you use synthetic oil
> in your Yanmar during the warranty period this will void the warranty.
> You are probably out of the warranty period, but with Yanmar's
> position on this issue, I would advise caution. I think I will listen
> to Yanmar on this issue because the downside is just not worth the
> upside...
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Rouse
> s/v BeBe SM2 #387
> anchored Opua, New Zealand
>
> --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "hkornberg" <hkornberg@>
wrote:
> >
> > Hello, I have an SM200 with the Yanmar 4JH3 engine having about
> > 2000HRS. To increase the oil change intervals, I have envisaged
the use
> > of Synthetic lubricant. Any experience in using synthetic oil?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Amel] Deck Construction

Hans-Joachim Schröder <Achimschro@...>
 

HI,

I had / adn repaired major leakage problems in the deck area of my Amel Kirk build in 1973 due to poor maintenance of the previous owner. The Balsa core had turned into a wet sponge.

If you want to check use a humifity meter as used for osmosis prevention. Check areas where deck gear has been installed later and probably by non-experts.

Regards

Joachim

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Gesendet: 29.11.08 01:19:14
An: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [Amel] Deck Construction

Can anyone tell me how the decks of earlier Amels (70's) were
constructed, please? Were they balsa cored? Has anyone had major leak
or rot problems. Thanks.


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Re: [Amel] Deck Construction

Jean Boucharlat
 

To the best of my knowledge in the late 70's and early 80's Amel used to
build both types of decks, balsa cored and straight FRP. The balsa cored
decks used to be an option for better insulation and they called it
"Tropical" or something similar. In 1981, I ordered a Maramu, delivered in
October of that year, with the balsa core option. Later on, they
standardized production to balsa cored decks only and this is how my (1998
model, hull 232), and all other, SM's came.

In order to know if a particular boat of that period was cored or FRP only
you would probably have to check directly with the yard, they keep excellent
records.



Jean Boucharlat



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of airbus4russ
Sent: samedi 29 novembre 2008 01:19
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Deck Construction



Can anyone tell me how the decks of earlier Amels (70's) were
constructed, please? Were they balsa cored? Has anyone had major leak
or rot problems. Thanks.


Deck Construction Sharki 1984

Hajé Weisfelt
 

I had our decks measured for moist. Nothing. But still very curious to
know what core Amel used.

Hajé


Deck Construction

airbus4russ <russ.roberts.va@...>
 

Can anyone tell me how the decks of earlier Amels (70's) were
constructed, please? Were they balsa cored? Has anyone had major leak
or rot problems. Thanks.


Re: [Amel] Re:Hella fans

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Ken and Judy, we were trying to get to Marmaris this winter only to have issues with the marina there a contract. All they wanted us to do was send money no invoice or contract not ever a draft contract. How did you guys do. You can get back us at rpiller@earthlink.net.
thanks Richard and Joan on Challenge in Corsica SM 209

uplus.com

--- On Thu, 11/27/08, Ken & Judy <goldendaze@uuplus.com> wrote:

From: Ken & Judy <goldendaze@uuplus.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re:Hella fans
To: "Amel Owners" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 4:17 PM
Caframo fans made in Canada.
about 30 to 40 USD. Open rubber blade is easy to clean and
about the same or more wind. 2 speed. We are replacing
all
with either the black or white. We have 13 fans. I will
be
glad when all the Hell-a are gone.
Golden Daze
Maramu 192
Marmaris Turkey


Dessalator 160 L/hr watermaker low-pressure pump spec's

drew_gaffney <drew.gaffney@...>
 

We're having trouble with our 160 l/h Dessalator watermaker. Before we
bought our boat, the low-pressure feed pump was replaced with a
Tellarini ENM-20, which does not produce sufficient flow or pressure
(only 32L/min at 1m height.) No pressure shows when the low pressure
pump activates the first couple minutes of operation and the
high-pressure pump transiently drains the 25 micron filter canister
when it starts.
The NZ company which provided that pump has agreed to provide a larger
pump and credit me for the smaller one they previously installed. The
price difference between their replacement and Dessalator is $600+, so
it would be nice if the replacement would work.
Does anyone know desired pressure, flow, and current draw for the low
pressure pump for the 160 L/hr from Dessalator.
The great pictures from Amelliahona appear to show 25A and 5A breakers
respectively for the high and low pressure pumps? Is there a 5A limit
on the low-pressure pump 240V supply?
Thanks,
Drew
SV Revelation


[Amel] Re: Yanmar 100HP engine oil change

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Hi Giovammi,

Yes, I received 2 binders. One has a printed copy of the PowerPoint
presentation that was given and the other is a shop manual type of binder.

I am fairly sure that these items are copyrighted. However, if they
are not I will see about scanning them and posting them on this
website. I will have an opportunity to do that when we fly from New
Zealand to the US in December.

Best,

Bill Rouse,
s/v BeBe
anchored Opua, New Zealand

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Giovanni Testa"
<gtesta23@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,
during the workshop did you received Yanmar documentation to post
for Group ?
Your experince may be very practical for Yanmar 4JH3 owners.
Thanks so much
Giovanni TESTA
s/v EUTIKIA SM2k n 428

----- Original Message -----
From: svbebe
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:59 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Yanmar 100HP engine oil change


I attended a 3-day diesel workshop sponsored by Yanmar. I worked on,
assembled, and disassembled a 4JH3-HTE for 3 days. The class
consisted of 12 folks, but I was the only one who owned a 4JH3-HTE so
I received 1 on 1 time.

It is easy to get confused on this issue because Yanmar makes some
engines that use synthetic oil, but not the 4JH3-HTE.

According to the Yanmar instructor, Yanmar reccomends against use of
synthetic oil in the 4JH3-HTE. I believe it has something to do with
the Turbo, but not 100% sure. He said that if you use synthetic oil
in your Yanmar during the warranty period this will void the warranty.
You are probably out of the warranty period, but with Yanmar's
position on this issue, I would advise caution. I think I will listen
to Yanmar on this issue because the downside is just not worth the
upside...

Regards,

Bill Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
anchored Opua, New Zealand

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "hkornberg" <hkornberg@>
wrote:
>
> Hello, I have an SM200 with the Yanmar 4JH3 engine having about
> 2000HRS. To increase the oil change intervals, I have envisaged
the use
> of Synthetic lubricant. Any experience in using synthetic oil?
>






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Re: [Amel] Re: Yanmar 100HP engine oil change

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Bill,
during the workshop did you received Yanmar documentation to post for Group ?
Your experince may be very practical for Yanmar 4JH3 owners.
Thanks so much
Giovanni TESTA
s/v EUTIKIA SM2k n 428

----- Original Message -----
From: svbebe
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:59 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Yanmar 100HP engine oil change


I attended a 3-day diesel workshop sponsored by Yanmar. I worked on,
assembled, and disassembled a 4JH3-HTE for 3 days. The class
consisted of 12 folks, but I was the only one who owned a 4JH3-HTE so
I received 1 on 1 time.

It is easy to get confused on this issue because Yanmar makes some
engines that use synthetic oil, but not the 4JH3-HTE.

According to the Yanmar instructor, Yanmar reccomends against use of
synthetic oil in the 4JH3-HTE. I believe it has something to do with
the Turbo, but not 100% sure. He said that if you use synthetic oil
in your Yanmar during the warranty period this will void the warranty.
You are probably out of the warranty period, but with Yanmar's
position on this issue, I would advise caution. I think I will listen
to Yanmar on this issue because the downside is just not worth the
upside...

Regards,

Bill Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
anchored Opua, New Zealand

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "hkornberg" <hkornberg@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, I have an SM200 with the Yanmar 4JH3 engine having about
> 2000HRS. To increase the oil change intervals, I have envisaged the use
> of Synthetic lubricant. Any experience in using synthetic oil?
>






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Re: Yanmar 100HP engine oil change

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

I attended a 3-day diesel workshop sponsored by Yanmar. I worked on,
assembled, and disassembled a 4JH3-HTE for 3 days. The class
consisted of 12 folks, but I was the only one who owned a 4JH3-HTE so
I received 1 on 1 time.

It is easy to get confused on this issue because Yanmar makes some
engines that use synthetic oil, but not the 4JH3-HTE.

According to the Yanmar instructor, Yanmar reccomends against use of
synthetic oil in the 4JH3-HTE. I believe it has something to do with
the Turbo, but not 100% sure. He said that if you use synthetic oil
in your Yanmar during the warranty period this will void the warranty.
You are probably out of the warranty period, but with Yanmar's
position on this issue, I would advise caution. I think I will listen
to Yanmar on this issue because the downside is just not worth the
upside...

Regards,

Bill Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
anchored Opua, New Zealand

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "hkornberg" <hkornberg@...> wrote:

Hello, I have an SM200 with the Yanmar 4JH3 engine having about
2000HRS. To increase the oil change intervals, I have envisaged the use
of Synthetic lubricant. Any experience in using synthetic oil?


Re: [Amel] Yanmar 100HP engine oil change

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

AS far as using a synthetic oil is concerned DO IT AND DO IT NOW. There are a number of very good reasons for using a synthetic oil that is designed for diesel engines;
1- Diesels like to run hot, compression is very high as are the internal temperatures of the engine. IF you lose a raw or fresh water pump the temperature of the oil can go up very fast faster then the coolant. At about 250 defF mineral oil starts to come apart synthetic does not.. it will hang in there to over 500 giving you time to shut down and be safe... like drop the hook.

2- Given that it comes as multi grade oil it has a much lower constant of friction that gives on average about a 10 percent improvement in fuel consumption.

3- Because it does not get "burned" it last longer in the motor. You can go 100 hours without an issue.


FOR you Turbo VOLVOS; keep in mind that the bearings in that thing get very hot and normal mineral oil will kill them.

I have been using it on boats with diesel engines for over 10 years with no issues at all related to lubrication. If the engine is worn you may find that you use a bit more oil that is normal.

Good luck and be sure to syn oil for diesel engines.
Richard and Joan on Challenge

--- On Thu, 11/27/08, hkornberg <hkornberg@aero-sky.com> wrote:

From: hkornberg <hkornberg@aero-sky.com>
Subject: [Amel] Yanmar 100HP engine oil change
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 11:29 AM
Hello, I have an SM200 with the Yanmar 4JH3 engine having
about
2000HRS. To increase the oil change intervals, I have
envisaged the use
of Synthetic lubricant. Any experience in using synthetic
oil?


Re: Hella fans

Ken & Judy <goldendaze@...>
 

Caframo fans made in Canada.
about 30 to 40 USD. Open rubber blade is easy to clean and
about the same or more wind. 2 speed. We are replacing all
with either the black or white. We have 13 fans. I will be
glad when all the Hell-a are gone.
Golden Daze
Maramu 192
Marmaris Turkey


Re: [Amel] Hella fans

eric freedman
 

Jeff,

I sent a few of mine to Hella.

Basically they said that's the way they are. When they are tilted they
rattle. When they are straight they do not.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rapp.jeffrey
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Hella fans



Hi. I'm Jeff aboard "Antares" SM 378.
I have a number of Hella fans aboard. They all seem to start to rattle
rather quickly after purchase. I presume the problem is with worn
bearings.
Does anyone else have this problem? If so, is there a fix, other than
buying new fans, which are expensive? Can anyone recommend a
different, perhaps better, brand?
Thanks in advance.
Jeff


Re: [Amel] Yanmar 100HP engine oil change

jlmertz@free.fr <jlmertz@...>
 

I am not sure that synthetic oil is a good choice,

Normally for engines that have small rpm NON synthetic oil is more
stable in time,
A learned in the past that non synthetic oil increase her performance
with time ....
Only restriction is the turbo that _perhaps_ prefer synthetic oil due to
height temperature,

On my car without turbo I never change oil and I NEVER had a problem.....
On my TMD 22P (a bad Volvo Penta engine) I put normal oil (*_and change
oil filter_*) every 500 hours our 2 years.

CottonBay
/Tout est possible dans un monde infini
/
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Hello, I have an SM200 with the Yanmar 4JH3 engine having about
2000HRS. To increase the oil change intervals, I have envisaged the use
of Synthetic lubricant. Any experience in using synthetic oil?



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Yanmar 100HP engine oil change

hkornberg
 

Hello, I have an SM200 with the Yanmar 4JH3 engine having about
2000HRS. To increase the oil change intervals, I have envisaged the use
of Synthetic lubricant. Any experience in using synthetic oil?