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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The Mechanics of Battery Equalization
Kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
Hi Bill, Depending on how the wiring of the charger is done. It is probably quite simple to put a couple of diodes in the wires going to the batteries to eliminate this problem. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:59 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The Mechanics of Battery Equalization
Mark,
Be careful. The battery chargers that charge 2 different voltage banks share the same negative between the two. This will result in the negative of the starting battery being connected to the negative of the house bank.
I think you better check with someone you trust that has knowledge of Amels and DC Voltage before you go in this direction.
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 3:28 PM brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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1st UPDATE - First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019
Let me update you on the First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019 Dates: We have corrected some wrong dates on the original proposal and established an alternative calendar that works for more of the participants. It isn't final yet, but I wanted to keep everyone in the loop. I believe the Alternate Calendar on the left below will be the final version.
CLICK HERE to link to the First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019 webpage with all of the information. Martinique Vendors: I am beginning to get pledges from various Martinique vendors which include: A sponsored dinner Sponsored Beer/Wine Door prizes including a haulout in & out with 3 days I am hoping for: Marina/Mooring concessions A bus tour of some great places on Martinique. Other door prizes It looks like it is going to be fun!
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The Mechanics of Battery Equalization
Mark, Be careful. The battery chargers that charge 2 different voltage banks share the same negative between the two. This will result in the negative of the starting battery being connected to the negative of the house bank. I think you better check with someone you trust that has knowledge of Amels and DC Voltage before you go in this direction.
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Re: The Mechanics of Battery Equalization
Mark & Debbie Mueller
We have a ChargeMaster 24/30-3 & a ChargeMaster 24/100-3. The 30 amp charger is the newer of the two. Mastervolt was introducing a 40 amp version that would charge both the 24 & 12 volt batteries (engine starting and house) but it was not yet available when we had to replace the Xantrex that died and toasted our 12 house batteries. Mark Mueller Brass Ring A54
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?
Kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
You might want to speak with Ian and Judy Jenkins of Pen-Azen. They made that passage and spent a few years in and around the Beagle channel. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:25 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?
Hello everyone - I'm interested to know if there are any Amel owners who have sailed to Southern Chile from Panama along the Pacific coast of South America. If so, I'd love to hear about your experience.
Many thanks! -James Soteria #347
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?
The ex owner’s of Super Maramu 248 (Moondog), John and Ruth Martin, did exactly that. See http://www.broadbaysailing.org/downloads/category.asp?categoryid=%7B6AE75D5D%2D3FB3%2D42AD%2DDD59%2D746E7C19564D%7D
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Brent Cameron, Future Super Maramu owner 6S+
On Jan 27, 2019, at 3:01 PM, James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?
James Cromie <jamescromie@...>
thanks Bill!
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?
I know an ex-owner who was from Chile and owned a SM. I will try to get in touch with him.
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Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?
jamescromie@...
Hello everyone - I'm interested to know if there are any Amel owners who have sailed to Southern Chile from Panama along the Pacific coast of South America. If so, I'd love to hear about your experience. Many thanks! -James Soteria #347
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019
James, TBD, means To Be Determined where on the island we may meet, anchorage or marina. I have not received any problems with dates. I will try to maintain this hidden webpage with up-to-date information.
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 12:56 PM James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019
James Cromie <jamescromie@...>
Bill - I may have missed a prior email regarding the proposed rally dates, or are the dated TBD? Thanks and we hope to part of this. James Soteria #347 Little harbor, long island....all to ourselves.
On Jan 27, 2019 12:56 PM, "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Libby requires a new guardian
That’s a nice looking boat!
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia www.creampuff.us
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amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Dena and I have decided to list our beloved Libby. We can no longer give her the purpose for which she was created.
Her listing can be found here;
https://www.boats.com/sailing-boats/1996-amel-super-maramu-6969866/
Please contact us directly should you have any questions or wish to hear more about her.
seven two zero four seven one zero eight eight seven
Terry & Dena Singh SV Libby #196 Pacific North West.
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Re: First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019
Update on coordination efforts: I have discussed this Rally with Martinique-based potential sponsors asking for some help with the following during the Martinique portion of the Rally:
If someone has contacts at any of the other planned island stops, contact me so that we can use you to make a similar arrangement at other stops.
On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 12:39 PM Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Libby requires a new guardian
Terence Singh
Dena and I have decided to list our beloved Libby. We can no longer give her the purpose for which she was created. Her listing can be found here; https://www.boats.com/sailing-boats/1996-amel-super-maramu-6969866/ Please contact us directly should you have any questions or wish to hear more about her. seven two zero four seven one zero eight eight seven Terry & Dena Singh SV Libby #196 Pacific North West.
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Re: First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019
Miles
Bill,
Thank you for doing all this. It sounds great just as you have it. Ladybug will be joining you at Martinique. Thank you again for setting this up. I am looking forward to it.
Regards,
Miles s/y Ladybug, sm216, Martinique
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally - INSURANCE
Duane,
We are currently insured with Pantaenius and felt forced to shop for insurance based on the requirements of the policy that changed drastically after the 2017 storms. We are uncertain of our plans but one of two things will happen, we will transit the canal and continue west or loop back around the Caribbean. Either way, the current policy was going to be troublesome. It is cost prohibitive for us in the Pacific and in the Caribbean just about impossible to adhere to the area restrictions and requirements during the summer months.
We spent 2018 hurricane season in the ABCs, mostly Bonaire. We understood we did not have named storm coverage while there since we could not comply with the policy and our only option was to run to Colombia in the event of a named storm. We had no issue with this strategy since statistically speaking the area is safe.
After looking at several companies, we narrowed our choices to three, in order of preference: Y-Yacht (UK), Novamar (USA) and Top Sail (UK). Y-Yacht and Novamar did not require a survey. Y-Yacht has asked for some pictures of the vessel and both have asked about age of rigging (need to be less than 10 years old or an inspection is required). I am leaning toward Y-Yacht since the wording of their policy is in everyday language and very clear to understand (like Pantaenius used to be). It is even posted on their website. All policies we are shopping are “declared value” policies.
Here is the wording from Novamar:
Navigation: U.S. Atlantic and Gulf coastal waters and inland waters thereto of the United States between Eastport, ME and Brownsville, Texas, including the Bahamas and waters of the Caribbean Sea, excluding the waters of Cuba, Haiti, and Venezuela. It is warranted between 1 July and 1 November, navigation is restricted to either north of St. Mary’s, GA or south of 12 degrees 40 minutes North Latitude.
Novamar allows for a vessel to stay in the waters of Grenada, ABCs, Colombia or Panama during hurricane season with a plan. I have worked with an agent for Novamar, let me know if you want his contact info. He was very helpful.
Several companies I contacted do not allow Colombian waters. Since this is where we are now, that was also a bit of a deal breaker. If you plan to head west, be aware some companies are doing this. Not really sure why.
In addition to the above, I understand Gowrie’s Jackline (IMIS) policy is recommended by others sailors. However, they required a full out of water survey less than 2 years old – no exceptions. This was a deal killer since the cost of the survey was not offset by any savings in premiums. The rates were in-line with those of Pantaenius. All the other companies we contacted quoted rates lower than Pantaenius, some significantly lower.
I have not done side by side comparisons of the companies I am looking at to our existing policy because it is obvious to us our current policy no longer meets our needs.
I think you are going to need to change insurance companies if you wish to stay in Grenada or the ABCs.
Hope this helps.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia www.creampuff.us
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Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:55 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally
Pantaenius Yacht Insurance - Southern Border of Hurricane Zone
I just heard from my Pantaenius Broker who told me last year Pantaenius was considering reestablishing a southern border for the hurricane zone. He wrote:
"The southern border would be south of 10 degrees. So, that is most of Columbia and Panama. Grenada is above 12 so does not qualify. You can get Grenada but will have to be able to do one of our Stormplans and will have a Large named tropical storm deductible."
He didn't say whether this was official yet or in the works.
We're planning on going down the eastern Caribbean this year, and were planning on Grenada for a haul-out during hurricane season, but now I'm wondering where we could go south of 10 degrees? Cartagena is even north of 10.
Any suggestions on marinas/boatyards south of 10 in Columbia? The closer to Grenada the better obviously. We were planning on going from Grenada to Central America anyway.
In the meantime I've asked for a quote from Y-yachts.
Thanks, Duane Wanderer, SM#477
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Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally
Duane Siegfri
Pantaenius Yacht Insurance - Southern Border of Hurricane Zone
I just heard from my Pantaenius Broker who told me last year Pantaenius was considering reestablishing a southern border for the hurricane zone. He wrote: "The southern border would be south of 10 degrees. So, that is most of Columbia and Panama. Grenada is above 12 so does not qualify. You can get Grenada but will have to be able to do one of our Stormplans and will have a Large named tropical storm deductible." He didn't say whether this was official yet or in the works. We're planning on going down the eastern Caribbean this year, and were planning on Grenada for a haul-out during hurricane season, but now I'm wondering where we could go south of 10 degrees? Cartagena is even north of 10. Any suggestions on marinas/boatyards south of 10 in Columbia? The closer to Grenada the better obviously. We were planning on going from Grenada to Central America anyway. In the meantime I've asked for a quote from Y-yachts. Thanks, Duane Wanderer, SM#477
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance
i believe that's correct, Bill, just like Jackline, Gowrie and Pantaenius US, if I'm not mistaken. (Although Pantaneius may be closer to the parent.) My understanding, from Al Golden, who started Jackline (IMIS) is that an entrepreneurial broker, who can develop a strong market, can develop their own "brand" product and enter into an exclusive agreement with a major carrier (underwriter/insurer) to offer a product under the broker's product name. The actual insurer is always disclosed (under a few layers of marketing) in the actual policy that is issued. Probably a good scheme for narrow specialty markets like cruising yachts, where brokers like Al Golden and Barry Sullivan are really more knowledgeable than the parent giant insurers.
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Cheers, Craig ---In amelyachtowners@..., <brouse@...> wrote : Oh, so Y Yacht Insurance is just an insurance brokerage. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School http://www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
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Re: The Mechanics of Battery Equalization
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Hi Mark, thanks for that, what Model of Mastervolt charger do you have?
Gary
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019
Hi Bill Great work and thank you very much. I cannot see why this would not work almost as is, or very close to it after comments by others. Anything extra you or others arrange would simply be bonus on top. Although SV Island Pearl II will be traveling through the Caribbean in the opposite direction, we will make some route adjustments and you can certainly count us in for hopefully at least three of these stops. Lauren and I very much look forward to meeting you and Judy, as well as many of the good folk we have been talking with on the forum over the past 7 years. Thank you again for taking the time and effort to get this potential event off the ground. Colin & Lauren Streeter SV Island Pearl II, SM#332 Prickly Bay, Grenada Sailing Island Pearl Youtube channel
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