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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally - INSURANCE

Duane Siegfri
 

Mark,

Thanks for the informative reply!

I thought I attached this to the insurance thread, not sure how it got on the Rally thread...

I have not heard of Novamar before, please do send me your contacts information.  I'm not happy about the 10 degree hurricane border from Pantaenius.  Grenada or the ABC's seem to be a better destination for me.

Our rigging is original (14 years old now) so that's going to be an issue, but I'm planning on a replacement this year anyway.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: 1st UPDATE - First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019

greatketch@...
 

I am not at all sure how this fits into the calculations. We’d be interested, but…

We have no idea where we will be in that time frame. Right now we are in full cruising mode, which means we don’t really have a plan—past the next weather front.

If we do cross paths with the rally, at that time of year we would certainly be starting to head north, so would not be rallying to the south, just rendezvousing…

I guess that puts us in the “interested, but unreliable” category!

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Highborne Cay, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The Mechanics of Battery Equalization

eric freedman
 

Hi Bill,

Depending on how the wiring of the charger is done. It is probably quite simple to put a couple of diodes in the wires going to the batteries to eliminate this problem.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The Mechanics of Battery Equalization

 

 

Mark,

 

Be careful. The battery chargers that charge 2 different voltage banks share the same negative between the two. This will result in the negative of the starting battery being connected to the negative of the house bank.

 

I think you better check with someone you trust that has knowledge of Amels and DC Voltage before you go in this direction.

 

Best,

 

Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 3:28 PM brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We have a ChargeMaster 24/30-3 & a ChargeMaster 24/100-3.  The 30 amp charger is the newer of the two.  Mastervolt was introducing a 40 amp version that would charge both the 24 & 12 volt batteries (engine starting and house) but it was not yet available when we had to replace the Xantrex that died and toasted our 12 house batteries.

 

Mark Mueller

Brass Ring A54


1st UPDATE - First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019

 

Let me update you on the First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019 

Dates:
We have corrected some wrong dates on the original proposal and established an alternative calendar that works for more of the participants. It isn't final yet, but I wanted to keep everyone in the loop. I believe the Alternate Calendar on the left below will be the final version.

Islands/Dates Tentative Schedule:

BVI- Virgin Gorda Anchorage at sound entrance channel on the East side April 14-16

St. Maarten (TBD) April 21-23

Martinique Apr 28 - May 4 du Marin with a group anchorage at St Anne on May 4 (the last day)

Bequia Admiralty Bay Anchorage May 19-21

Grenada (TBD) May 26-28

Chaguaramas, Trinidad (Tentative) May 30-?

Note: TBD means we currently do not have an exact location planned on the island

 

Islands/Dates Alternative/Preferred Schedule:

The following has been suggested to include most of the boats interested

BVI- Virgin Gorda Anchorage at sound entrance channel on the East side Mar 31- Apr 2

Martinique Apr 7-12 du Marin with a group anchorage at St Anne on Apr 12 (the last day)

Bequia Admiralty Bay Anchorage Apr 15-17

Grenada (TBD) Apr 21-23

Chaguaramas, Trinidad (Tentative) Apr 25-???

Note: TBD means we currently do not have an exact location planned on the island

 

CLICK HERE to link to the First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019 webpage with all of the information.

Martinique Vendors:
I am beginning to get pledges from various Martinique vendors which include:
A sponsored dinner
Sponsored Beer/Wine
Door prizes including a haulout in & out with 3 days
I am hoping for: 
Marina/Mooring concessions 
A bus tour of some great places on Martinique.
Other door prizes

It looks like it is going to be fun!

Best,

Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: The Mechanics of Battery Equalization

 

Mark,

Be careful. The battery chargers that charge 2 different voltage banks share the same negative between the two. This will result in the negative of the starting battery being connected to the negative of the house bank.

I think you better check with someone you trust that has knowledge of Amels and DC Voltage before you go in this direction.

Best,

Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 3:28 PM brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

We have a ChargeMaster 24/30-3 & a ChargeMaster 24/100-3.  The 30 amp charger is the newer of the two.  Mastervolt was introducing a 40 amp version that would charge both the 24 & 12 volt batteries (engine starting and house) but it was not yet available when we had to replace the Xantrex that died and toasted our 12 house batteries.

Mark Mueller
Brass Ring A54


Re: The Mechanics of Battery Equalization

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

We have a ChargeMaster 24/30-3 & a ChargeMaster 24/100-3.  The 30 amp charger is the newer of the two.  Mastervolt was introducing a 40 amp version that would charge both the 24 & 12 volt batteries (engine starting and house) but it was not yet available when we had to replace the Xantrex that died and toasted our 12 house batteries.

Mark Mueller
Brass Ring A54


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?

eric freedman
 

You might want to speak with Ian and Judy Jenkins of Pen-Azen.

They made that passage and spent a few years in and around the Beagle channel.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:25 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?

 

 

Hello everyone - 

I'm interested to know if there are any Amel owners who have sailed to Southern Chile from Panama along the Pacific coast of South America.  If so, I'd love to hear about your experience.   

 

Many thanks!

-James

Soteria

#347


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?

Brent Cameron
 

The ex owner’s of Super Maramu 248 (Moondog), John and Ruth Martin, did exactly that. See http://www.broadbaysailing.org/downloads/category.asp?categoryid=%7B6AE75D5D%2D3FB3%2D42AD%2DDD59%2D746E7C19564D%7D

Brent Cameron, Future Super Maramu owner

6S+

On Jan 27, 2019, at 3:01 PM, James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

thanks Bill! 

James
On Jan 27, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I know an ex-owner who was from Chile and owned a SM. I will try to get in touch with him.
Best,

Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 1:25 PM jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello everyone - 

I'm interested to know if there are any Amel owners who have sailed to Southern Chile from Panama along the Pacific coast of South America.  If so, I'd love to hear about your experience.   


Many thanks!

-James

Soteria

#347





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?

James Cromie
 

thanks Bill! 
James

On Jan 27, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I know an ex-owner who was from Chile and owned a SM. I will try to get in touch with him.
Best,

Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 1:25 PM jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello everyone - 

I'm interested to know if there are any Amel owners who have sailed to Southern Chile from Panama along the Pacific coast of South America.  If so, I'd love to hear about your experience.   


Many thanks!

-James

Soteria

#347





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?

 

I know an ex-owner who was from Chile and owned a SM. I will try to get in touch with him.
Best,

Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 1:25 PM jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello everyone - 

I'm interested to know if there are any Amel owners who have sailed to Southern Chile from Panama along the Pacific coast of South America.  If so, I'd love to hear about your experience.   


Many thanks!

-James

Soteria

#347


Any Amel owners who have sailed to Chile from Panama?

James Cromie
 

Hello everyone - 

I'm interested to know if there are any Amel owners who have sailed to Southern Chile from Panama along the Pacific coast of South America.  If so, I'd love to hear about your experience.   


Many thanks!

-James

Soteria

#347


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019

 

James,

TBD, means To Be Determined where on the island we may meet, anchorage or marina. 

I have not received any problems with dates. 

I will try to maintain this hidden webpage with up-to-date information.

Best,

Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 12:56 PM James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill - I may have missed a prior email regarding the proposed rally dates, or are the dated TBD?
Thanks and we hope to part of this. 

James
Soteria
#347
Little harbor, long island....all to ourselves. 


On Jan 27, 2019 12:56 PM, "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Update on coordination efforts:

I have discussed this Rally with Martinique-based potential sponsors asking for some help with the following during the Martinique portion of the Rally:
  1. A dinner at Mango Bay during the above dates for all owners attending the Rally 
  2. A bus tour of Rhum Clément and possibly some other stop. 
  3. Berth Discounts at the Marina du Marin. 
  4. Door prizes or gift certificates from 3 different entities to be given by them during the dinner at Mango Bay. 
The early indications is that we will get all of the above and possibly more. I will keep you posted and will add to the website when confirmed. 

If someone has contacts at any of the other planned island stops, contact me so that we can use you to make a similar arrangement at other stops.
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 12:39 PM Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
I created a webpage for the First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019. The webpage is a hidden webpage on the Amel School website. In other words, if you are on the Amel School website, you cannot find it. I put it on the Amel School website because that is the only place I own that I could create a page. If someone else wants to volunteer setting up and maintaining a webpage, it is fine with me.

To do this, I had to assume and guess almost everything. Most of what is on the page should NOT be my decision, but I made the page to get some conversation going with suggestions. 

Best,

Bill Rouse
Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019

James Cromie
 

Bill - I may have missed a prior email regarding the proposed rally dates, or are the dated TBD?
Thanks and we hope to part of this. 

James
Soteria
#347
Little harbor, long island....all to ourselves. 


On Jan 27, 2019 12:56 PM, "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Update on coordination efforts:

I have discussed this Rally with Martinique-based potential sponsors asking for some help with the following during the Martinique portion of the Rally:
  1. A dinner at Mango Bay during the above dates for all owners attending the Rally 
  2. A bus tour of Rhum Clément and possibly some other stop. 
  3. Berth Discounts at the Marina du Marin. 
  4. Door prizes or gift certificates from 3 different entities to be given by them during the dinner at Mango Bay. 
The early indications is that we will get all of the above and possibly more. I will keep you posted and will add to the website when confirmed. 

If someone has contacts at any of the other planned island stops, contact me so that we can use you to make a similar arrangement at other stops.
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 12:39 PM Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
I created a webpage for the First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019. The webpage is a hidden webpage on the Amel School website. In other words, if you are on the Amel School website, you cannot find it. I put it on the Amel School website because that is the only place I own that I could create a page. If someone else wants to volunteer setting up and maintaining a webpage, it is fine with me.

To do this, I had to assume and guess almost everything. Most of what is on the page should NOT be my decision, but I made the page to get some conversation going with suggestions. 

Best,

Bill Rouse
Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Libby requires a new guardian

Mark Erdos
 

That’s a nice looking boat!

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Libby requires a new guardian

 

 

Dena and I have decided to list our beloved Libby. We can no longer give her the purpose for which she was created.

 

Her listing can be found here;

 

https://www.boats.com/sailing-boats/1996-amel-super-maramu-6969866/

 

Please contact us directly should you have any questions or wish to hear more about her.

 

seven two zero four seven one zero eight eight seven

 

Terry & Dena Singh

SV Libby

#196

Pacific North West.


Re: First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019

 

Update on coordination efforts:

I have discussed this Rally with Martinique-based potential sponsors asking for some help with the following during the Martinique portion of the Rally:
  1. A dinner at Mango Bay during the above dates for all owners attending the Rally 
  2. A bus tour of Rhum Clément and possibly some other stop. 
  3. Berth Discounts at the Marina du Marin. 
  4. Door prizes or gift certificates from 3 different entities to be given by them during the dinner at Mango Bay. 
The early indications is that we will get all of the above and possibly more. I will keep you posted and will add to the website when confirmed. 

If someone has contacts at any of the other planned island stops, contact me so that we can use you to make a similar arrangement at other stops.
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 12:39 PM Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
I created a webpage for the First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019. The webpage is a hidden webpage on the Amel School website. In other words, if you are on the Amel School website, you cannot find it. I put it on the Amel School website because that is the only place I own that I could create a page. If someone else wants to volunteer setting up and maintaining a webpage, it is fine with me.

To do this, I had to assume and guess almost everything. Most of what is on the page should NOT be my decision, but I made the page to get some conversation going with suggestions. 

Best,

Bill Rouse
Amel School 
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Libby requires a new guardian

Terence Singh
 

Dena and I have decided to list our beloved Libby. We can no longer give her the purpose for which she was created.


Her listing can be found here;


https://www.boats.com/sailing-boats/1996-amel-super-maramu-6969866/


Please contact us directly should you have any questions or wish to hear more about her.


seven two zero four seven one zero eight eight seven


Terry & Dena Singh

SV Libby

#196

Pacific North West.


Re: First Ever Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally 2019

Miles
 

Bill,

 

Thank you for doing all this.  It sounds great just as you have it.  Ladybug will be joining you at Martinique.  Thank you again for setting this up.  I am looking forward to it.

 

Regards,

 

Miles

s/y Ladybug, sm216, Martinique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally - INSURANCE

Mark Erdos
 

Duane,

 

We are currently insured with Pantaenius and felt forced to shop for insurance based on the requirements of the policy that changed drastically after the 2017 storms. We are uncertain of our plans but one of two things will happen, we will transit the canal and continue west or loop back around the Caribbean. Either way, the current policy was going to be troublesome. It is cost prohibitive for us in the Pacific and in the Caribbean just about impossible to adhere to the area restrictions and requirements during the summer months.

 

We spent 2018 hurricane season in the ABCs, mostly Bonaire. We understood we did not have named storm coverage while there since we could not comply with the policy and our only option was to run to Colombia in the event of a named storm. We had no issue with this strategy since statistically speaking the area is safe.

 

After looking at several companies, we narrowed our choices to three, in order of preference: Y-Yacht (UK), Novamar (USA) and Top Sail (UK). Y-Yacht and Novamar did not require a survey. Y-Yacht has asked for some pictures of the vessel and both have asked about age of rigging (need to be less than 10 years old or an inspection is required). I am leaning toward Y-Yacht since the wording of their policy is in everyday language and very clear to understand (like Pantaenius used to be). It is even posted on their website. All policies we are shopping are “declared value” policies.

 

Here is the wording from Novamar:

 

Navigation: U.S. Atlantic and Gulf coastal waters and inland waters thereto of the United States between Eastport, ME and

Brownsville, Texas, including the Bahamas and waters of the Caribbean Sea, excluding the waters of Cuba, Haiti, and

Venezuela. It is warranted between 1 July and 1 November, navigation is restricted to either north of St. Mary’s, GA or south of

12 degrees 40 minutes North Latitude.

 

Novamar allows for a vessel to stay in the waters of Grenada, ABCs, Colombia or Panama during hurricane season with a plan. I have worked with an agent for Novamar, let me know if you want his contact info. He was very helpful.

 

Several companies I contacted do not allow Colombian waters. Since this is where we are now, that was also a bit of a deal breaker. If you plan to head west, be aware some companies are doing this. Not really sure why.

 

In addition to the above, I understand Gowrie’s Jackline (IMIS) policy is recommended by others sailors. However, they required a full out of water survey less than 2 years old – no exceptions. This was a deal killer since the cost of the survey was not offset by any savings in premiums. The rates were in-line with those of Pantaenius. All the other companies we contacted quoted rates lower than Pantaenius, some significantly lower.

 

I have not done side by side comparisons of the companies I am looking at to our existing policy because it is obvious to us our current policy no longer meets our needs.

 

I think you are going to need to change insurance companies if you wish to stay in Grenada or the ABCs.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

 

 

Pantaenius Yacht Insurance - Southern Border of Hurricane Zone

 

I just heard from my Pantaenius Broker who told me last year Pantaenius was considering reestablishing a southern border for the hurricane zone.  He wrote:

 

"The southern border would be south of 10 degrees.  So,  that is most of Columbia and Panama.  Grenada is above 12 so does not qualify.  You can get Grenada but will have to be able to do one of our Stormplans and will have a Large named tropical storm deductible."



He didn't say whether this was official yet or in the works.



We're planning on going down the eastern Caribbean this year, and were planning on Grenada for a haul-out during hurricane season, but now I'm wondering where we could go south of 10 degrees?  Cartagena is even north of 10.



Any suggestions on marinas/boatyards south of 10 in Columbia?  The closer to Grenada the better obviously.  We were planning on going from Grenada to Central America anyway.



In the meantime I've asked for a quote from Y-yachts.



Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

Duane Siegfri
 

Pantaenius Yacht Insurance - Southern Border of Hurricane Zone

I just heard from my Pantaenius Broker who told me last year Pantaenius was considering reestablishing a southern border for the hurricane zone.  He wrote:

"The southern border would be south of 10 degrees.  So,  that is most of Columbia and Panama.  Grenada is above 12 so does not qualify.  You can get Grenada but will have to be able to do one of our Stormplans and will have a Large named tropical storm deductible."

He didn't say whether this was official yet or in the works.

We're planning on going down the eastern Caribbean this year, and were planning on Grenada for a haul-out during hurricane season, but now I'm wondering where we could go south of 10 degrees?  Cartagena is even north of 10.

Any suggestions on marinas/boatyards south of 10 in Columbia?  The closer to Grenada the better obviously.  We were planning on going from Grenada to Central America anyway.

In the meantime I've asked for a quote from Y-yachts.

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance

Craig Briggs
 

i believe that's correct, Bill, just like Jackline, Gowrie and Pantaenius US, if I'm not mistaken. (Although Pantaneius may be closer to the parent.) My understanding, from Al Golden, who started Jackline (IMIS) is that an entrepreneurial broker, who can develop a strong market, can develop their own "brand" product and enter into an exclusive agreement with a major carrier (underwriter/insurer) to offer a product under the broker's product name. The actual insurer is always disclosed (under a few layers of marketing) in the actual policy that is issued. Probably a good scheme for narrow specialty markets like cruising yachts, where brokers like Al Golden and Barry Sullivan are really more knowledgeable than the parent giant insurers.
Cheers, Craig


---In amelyachtowners@..., <brouse@...> wrote :

Oh, so Y Yacht Insurance is just an insurance brokerage.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 9:17 AM sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

All,

Suggest you read further, if interested, at yyachtinsurance dot com, which states Barry Sullivan, who happens to own a Maramu, started Pantaenius UK, did business as Shearlangstone, Ltd. , became Y Yacht Insurance in 2011. Now set up Y Yacht Assurances France for post-Brexit operation. The actual insurance and underwriting is through MS Amlin, part of MS and AD (haven't researched them) and Y Yacht Insurance is a trading name of Y at-sign Limited, an English company.

FWIW,
Craig Briggs, SN68 - I did ask for a quote and will let you know what I hear. 



---In amelyachtowners@..., <gmshea@...> wrote :

Hi all,
My info is that Barrie Sullivan of Y used to be the GM of Pantaenius UK but "retired" and started Y

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles
Preveza


From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of JEFFREY KRAUS jmkraus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 8:15 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance
 
 

Colin,
I'm just catching the end of the thread on insurance, and after reading Mark's email, it seemed that, being a currently covered by Pantaneous, I better start looking into different coverage (my policy renews 10/1).
I goggled y yacht insurance and was directed to Pure. I had received an unsolicitated mailing from Pure not that long ago, and sent the flier into my circular file.
Is y yacht some kind of branch of Pure, or am I on the wrong road here? There are a number of brokers near by my home in NY that are brokers listed for Pure. None of them are yacht brokers. 
Due to my stem fitting issue, and some current electronics upgrades, I put my plan to slide thru the canal and head west off till next year, but the insurance coverage will need to be resolved before that. 
From Mark's comment, it appears that Pantaneous will be prohibitally expensive. 
I'm more concerned about liability coverage for all my vessels (5), and I don't care about the bells and whistles, so from your description, a y yacht policy may be a good way for me to go.
Thanks,
Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14




On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 03:46 PM, Sailing Island Pearl colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Hi Mark

Yes, Y Yacht. Their CEO (Barry?) still owns an Amel Maramu and has been talking with Amel HQ about bringing out a policy / product specially designed for Amel yacht owners. Nice bloke, who left us with a very positive impression in many ways concluding a nice personal welcome note as an Amel owner after we joined.

In our case Top Sail had just doubled their quotation on our coverage for Indian Ocean high risk areas, and this was just two weeks before our Velos policy expired, blaming it on the last hurricane season, and informing us that 5 other insurers went out of business that year and hence they were increasing all new policy quotes substantially.

We were in the process of changing to Topsail, but refuse to be ripped off like that in the 11th hour when they clearly assumed we had no time left to change companies and would just have to pay. Topsail will never be considered by us again.

Y Yacht policy certainly had less bells and whistles extra benefits than Panteanius and Velos attached to their policy, but this means big savings and we felt all the basics were well covered.

Hope this helps.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM #332
Prickly Bay

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 6:55 PM 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

(changed name of thread)

 

 

Hi Colin,

 

Interesting about insurance. I have spent the past couple of months shopping for insurance to get us through the Panama canal and across the S. Pacific. I have it narrowed down to Y-Yacht (UK), Novamar (USA) and Top Sail (UK) – We currently have Pantaenius and it is going to be cost prohibitive for us to continue with them. If we decide to stay in the Caribbean, the Pantaenius requirements a virtually impossible to adhere to. Either way we need to change.

 

When you say “Y Insurance” do you mean Y-Yacht?

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 6:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

 

 

Awesome advice, thanks Mark.

 

We have been off-line for so long on this last 5700nm crossing from Cape Town  so had not yet got time to research the ABC's. 

 

We joined Y Insurance this year who have incredibly good rates compared to Panteanius & Velos, and also include "in water" hurricane cover in the ABC's only hence our decision to go there.

 

Cheers 

Colin & Lauren Streeter

Prickly Bay Marina

 

Ps...All who meet us....Please don't disown or mock us when you see our "off-pink" boat stripe and rub rail!!  We remain good Amelians... and promise to fix it at the next haulout...... the painter in Durban got the  "Amel 54 Dessert Sand"  colour we love completely wrong .....just when a weather window opened up to bolt around to Cape Town..... So we decided to take the weather gap and fix the colour at next haulout.

 

 

On 22 Jan.. 2019 16:27, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Colin,

 

Also consider an extended stay in Aruba during hurricane season. Curacao, not so much. You will love the diving and snorkeling in Bonaire, it is really first rate. If you opt to go to Aruba, the Renaissance marina is right downtown in the heart of everything and have reasonable monthly rates. You will need to book way ahead since due to many people’s insurances companies making changes, the ABC’s are becoming a destination for those wanting to stay in the Caribbean.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Possible late Spring Amel Caribbean Rally

 

 

Island Pearl II just arrived in Caribbean early this morning from Brisbane, Australia via Asia, most Indian Ocean Islands, South Atlantic Islands and Brazil.

 

In Prickly Bay now, then a slow trip up the Windward then Leewards before BVI's & US BVI's etc then across to Bonaire in late May/June for Hurricane season.

 

Would love to participate if the dates work out, and/or say HI to any other Amel owners as we travel the Caribbean this season. If you see us anchored near you feel free to come over for a cold beer. We love Amel talk!

 

Cheers

Colin

 

 

 

On Tue, 22 Jan. 2019, 13:01 alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

Hello Bill,

I think it is a great idea, our Maramu is based in Venezuela, if we get and idea of the overall plan with dates included, we would seriously consider participating. Also the cost would be an important factor, in my opinion. Thanks for promoting such an activity. Maybe we can convince other Amel owners here to participate.

Alex Paquin

SIMPATICO

Maramu #94, 1981