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Re: Outhaul shaft removal

Jose Venegas <josegvenegas@...>
 

I agree with Eric
This is pretty much like my tool but the hole in the top is square and large while in mine is circular and of the same size as the shaft. Actually, l should have made it slightly larger than the shaft and for that reason, I had to add a washer as a spacer between the two parts of the top unit.


Re: US State taxes

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Mark,
The Fl tax department did not consider it a grey area and actually gave us a letter confirming we had no liability for Fl sales tax. And when we returned to the US (in Fl), again, there was no question that we had any sales tax liability whatsoever. They do not consider this "avoiding tax", which carries a, shall-we-say, shady connotation. In fact, it's just the opposite; they consider it being in full compliance with the FL tax laws. The end result was that we paid 0% sales tax on our Amel AND were in 100% compliance with all state tax laws - nothin' shady or grey or risky or dodgy or whatever.
Craig


Re: Outhaul shaft removal

rossirossix4
 

Hi Eric-
Well, there's the RIGHT WAY, the WRONG WAY, and the AMEL WAY!  

Regarding the Amel way, according to Albon, plan B was to remove the boom, bring it into the shop and use their press.  If the press placed pressure directly on the slotted disc while pressing the shaft, pressure on the case could be avoided.  It is possible that our habit of frequently spraying just a bit of CorrosionX (regular as well as CorrosionXHD) on the shaft and rinsing the gearbox area with fresh water every time we washed off the boat may have helped--again, removal with the tool was effortless.  Albon suggested Tef-Gel where the metal of the gear box meets the shaft upon reassembly. 
Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI


Re: Turbo heat shield for Perkins M80T

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

Those heat shields on the Volvo cost a fortune. The shield for the d3 110 is $500  we run a dry exhaust on big diesels we have heat wrap insulation, with a fibercloth to secure it. I did my d3 110 with leftover scraps from my muffler replacement. You could get what you need to wrap the turbo for $25, and have better insulation then their overpriced wrap, and it will look good to if you cut the pieces and fit them well



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-------- Original message --------
From: John Clark <john.biohead@...>
Date: 3/4/19 5:56 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Turbo heat shield for Perkins M80T

I have not replaced mine but yes it is cloth-like material covering
insulation.  It is held on with wire and clips. I would replace if oil
soaked. I cannot imagine it costs much.  You could make one by using fire
retardant high temp fabric surrounding fiberglass insulation.

John
SV Annie SM37
Brunswick. GA

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 1:15 PM Dan Wilcox via Groups.Io <dwilcox123=
yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

> Has anyone replaced the turbo heat shield on a Perkins M80T?  I think it's
> supposed to be white and cloth like.  Mine is oil soaked and embedded with
> rust.
>
> Thanks, Dan
> Feierabend #86
>
>

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Re: Outhaul shaft removal

Eric Freedman
 

That looks like it puts a lot of pressure in the gearbox casting.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of rossirossix4
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 5:44 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Outhaul shaft removal

 

For some reason the most informative pics did not post.....(again, this is what Albon and Francois cooked up at the Amel Caraibes Center in Martinique) here they are:
Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI SM 429


Re: crossing BVI to Florida.

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Wolfgang,

We can not give you useful information about Cuba, or the Dominican Republic, but we have spent a lot of time in the Bahamas over the last three years and greatly enjoyed it. People will talk about how you need a shallow draft to explore the Bahamas, but a two meter draft is not too deep to enjoy the country. 

You can can find our route, and comments about where we have been on our blog at http://fetchinketch.net

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Mayaguana, Bahamas


Re: Outhaul shaft removal

rossirossix4
 

For some reason the most informative pics did not post.....(again, this is what Albon and Francois cooked up at the Amel Caraibes Center in Martinique) here they are:
Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI SM 429


Re: Outhaul shaft removal

Eric Freedman
 

It Should just slide in.
Fair Winds
Eric
SM 376 KImberlite


On Mon, Mar 04, 2019 at 04:35 PM, seagasm wrote:

OK, so how difficult to re-assemble it? do you have to use such force?

Kind Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM#171


Re: US State taxes

John Clark
 

Craig,
   I wonder how that would work for a vessel purchased overseas, USCG documented but never registered in a State.  South Carolina does not register USCG documented vessels.  Annie SM 37 is documented with Charleston SC as home port, my home and state of residence.  She has however only passed thru SC during my ownership.  At this writing she is berthed in Georgia where I am working but does not have to stay. 

I would be curious how FL would treat her for sales tax. 



On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 9:23 AM Craig Briggs via Groups.Io <sangaris=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Mark,
We brought our US flagged boat back to the US, registered it in Florida and paid no sales/use tax, even though it had been registered in NH, which has 0% tax.

When we bought it in FL in 2000 I spoke several times with the director of the Florida sales tax division that handles boats so as to "get it right". He informed me that if we left Florida in 10 days, (or checked into a state registered repair facility and left FL afterwards) and registered it in another state and sent him (the tax department) proof of the boat being out of Florida and of the other state's registration there would be no tax due.

He further explained that if we subsequently brought the boat back into FL after, if I recall correctly, 6 months, we could (should) register it in FL but the fact of having "met the sales tax requirement of another state" (even thought that was 0%) would mean no FL sales tax would be due.

So after 15 years we came back to FL and were not required to pay sales tax, just the normal annual registration fee ($200 or so).
The sales tax director said it was just like the thousands of people who move to Florida and bring their cars - if they come from a no- or low-tax state they do not have to pay the difference in the sales/use tax rate.

Craig Briggs SN68


Re: Turbo heat shield for Perkins M80T

John Clark
 

I have not replaced mine but yes it is cloth-like material covering insulation.  It is held on with wire and clips. I would replace if oil soaked. I cannot imagine it costs much.  You could make one by using fire retardant high temp fabric surrounding fiberglass insulation.

John
SV Annie SM37
Brunswick. GA

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 1:15 PM Dan Wilcox via Groups.Io <dwilcox123=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Has anyone replaced the turbo heat shield on a Perkins M80T?  I think it's supposed to be white and cloth like.  Mine is oil soaked and embedded with rust.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend #86


Re: Outhaul shaft removal

 

I don't know anyone who had and difficulty with reassembly. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 3:35 PM seagasm <seagasm@...> wrote:
OK, so how difficult to re-assemble it? do you have to use such force?

Kind Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM#171


Re: Outhaul shaft removal

seagasm <seagasm@...>
 

OK, so how difficult to re-assemble it? do you have to use such force?

Kind Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM#171


WG: re goiot hatches seal

Joachim
 




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Re: 54

james Hosford
 

Yeah not sure abt that either but did like the idea of more durable and could mnt some flexible solar pannels up there


On Mar 2, 2019, at 9:33 PM, SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:

James,
i saw one in Leros last year. I understand they are not made by Amel. 

it seems quite functional as long as you are not a rather tall person. It is obviously more rugged than the canvas top. I think the idea is taken from the 55, but the 55 design is better in my opinion - I guess the 55 boom is maybe a little higher too?

I did not really like the aesthetic, but then many would argue that AMEL yachts are all about the triumph of function at the expense of form!  😜 

Cheers,Dean
SY Stella 
A54-154



Re: 54

james Hosford
 

Thanks Bill!


On Mar 2, 2019, at 9:24 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

You might want to take contact: Emek Marine for a 54 hardtop. Here is a photo of the inside of their 54 hardtop:
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 For information or ordering, please email RIZA <cagdas@...>. For 54 clients of Amel School, there is a discount on this hardtop.


Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 2:34 PM james Hosford via Groups.Io <jay.hosford=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
Saw a 54 with s hard dodger and fiberglass arch.   Both looked well done and wondered if they were maybe an option from Amel I've never heard abt.    Not sure abt the look but think maybe not having canvas would be more practical .     Wondered what everyones thoughts were?




Turbo heat shield for Perkins M80T

Dan Wilcox
 

Has anyone replaced the turbo heat shield on a Perkins M80T?  I think it's supposed to be white and cloth like.  Mine is oil soaked and embedded with rust.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend #86


Re: US State taxes

Mark Erdos
 

Craig,

 

We too found Florida to be different from most other states. The boating industry is so important to the economy there, the state is protecting that business.

 

We purchased Cream Puff in Ft. Lauderdale and considered moving the vessel north for the 180 days and bouncing from state to state and returning to FL with a RI or DE registration. The plan was to then register in FL and avoid the tax. However, this is a very very very grey area. And,  once again when we started to be on the boat full time, if we were caught in MD after 90 days with the FL registration, we would then get stung with MD tax because we couldn’t prove sales tax was paid.

 

We decided to flag the vessel BVI (I have a USA and British passport) and avoided any USA sales tax requirements (USA cruising permits). This has also paid off dividends with boat insurance.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Craig Briggs via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 10:24 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] US State taxes

 

Mark,
We brought our US flagged boat back to the US, registered it in Florida and paid no sales/use tax, even though it had been registered in NH, which has 0% tax.

When we bought it in FL in 2000 I spoke several times with the director of the Florida sales tax division that handles boats so as to "get it right". He informed me that if we left Florida in 10 days, (or checked into a state registered repair facility and left FL afterwards) and registered it in another state and sent him (the tax department) proof of the boat being out of Florida and of the other state's registration there would be no tax due.

He further explained that if we subsequently brought the boat back into FL after, if I recall correctly, 6 months, we could (should) register it in FL but the fact of having "met the sales tax requirement of another state" (even thought that was 0%) would mean no FL sales tax would be due.

So after 15 years we came back to FL and were not required to pay sales tax, just the normal annual registration fee ($200 or so).
The sales tax director said it was just like the thousands of people who move to Florida and bring their cars - if they come from a no- or low-tax state they do not have to pay the difference in the sales/use tax rate.

Craig Briggs SN68


Re: US State taxes

Craig Briggs
 

Mark,
We brought our US flagged boat back to the US, registered it in Florida and paid no sales/use tax, even though it had been registered in NH, which has 0% tax.

When we bought it in FL in 2000 I spoke several times with the director of the Florida sales tax division that handles boats so as to "get it right". He informed me that if we left Florida in 10 days, (or checked into a state registered repair facility and left FL afterwards) and registered it in another state and sent him (the tax department) proof of the boat being out of Florida and of the other state's registration there would be no tax due.

He further explained that if we subsequently brought the boat back into FL after, if I recall correctly, 6 months, we could (should) register it in FL but the fact of having "met the sales tax requirement of another state" (even thought that was 0%) would mean no FL sales tax would be due.

So after 15 years we came back to FL and were not required to pay sales tax, just the normal annual registration fee ($200 or so).
The sales tax director said it was just like the thousands of people who move to Florida and bring their cars - if they come from a no- or low-tax state they do not have to pay the difference in the sales/use tax rate.

Craig Briggs SN68


Re: US State taxes

Mark Erdos
 

Paul,

 

Since the boat is USA flagged and should you decide to take it to the USA, you will be required to pay Use tax (sales and use) in the state where the boat is located after a specific period of time unless you can prove an equal amount of sales and use tax was paid to another state. The state tax is independent of the US registration and homeport. The tax and state registration is normally due after a stay between 60 or 90 days and varies by state. There are two exceptions on the east coast: Delaware and Rhode Island are both tax free for boats. Florida has a limit on the amount of taxes charged of $18,000. North Carolina ($1500) and South Carolina ($300) have limits in the tax. However NC and SC charge property taxes on vessels located in the state but still these taxes can be significantly less than other east coast states.

 

Several cruisers we met in the Chesapeake Bay had vessel registrations in the tax friendly states. To avoid being snagged by MD or VA tax collectors, they moved their boats within the allotted timeframes. Basically they shuttled between MD and VA being sure to collect a receipt for a marina or boat fuel as proof of being there.

 

VA is the more friendly tax state in the Chesapeake verses Maryland with a 2% tax. However, this is only the state part. Some VA counties charge personal property tax on boats. I forget which counties but I recall some boaters moving their boats out of a county on a specific day/month to avoid the property assessment. A quick conversation with another boater in a VA marina will help.

 

A real pet peeve of mine: A boat pays sales and use tax in state, let’s say 5%. Then the owner of the boat moves to vessel to another state a few years later, registers the boat and the tax is 7%. The new state can require the difference of tax to be paid. If the vessel moves from a state where it paid personal property taxes, these taxes do not count as a credit toward the new states sales and use tax. The additional 2% is now due to the new state even though the vessel never changed ownership. Boats are subject to limits on how long they can stay in states without local registration. However, an RV can stay in the all states permanently so long as it is registered in one of the 50 US states.  RVers register their RV in tax friendly state where renewals can be done by mail and avoid the mess we have to deal with. Rant over.

 

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Cooper via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 10:41 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] US State taxes

 

The boat is registered US.  But after further consideration we have decided not to bring the boat up to the US this year.  Thanks for your replies and interest.

Paul


Re: Outhaul shaft removal

rossirossix4
 

Here are some pics of the puller that Amel uses at the Amel Caraibes Center in Martinique.  Albon lent me the tool and it allowed me to remove the shaft with almost no effort.  In anticipation of the event, I had been spraying a bit of CorrosionX down the shaft over a period of several months and routinely flushed it with fresh water when washing down the boat....might have helped--the shaft looked pretty good upon removal.  The bolt that applies pressure to the end of the shaft doesn't actually screw into the shaft, acts more like a prop puller with a pilot hole.   I think the bracket on the Amel SMs had changed over the years.  Ours is a 2004.
Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI SM 429 Martinique


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