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Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

Faial Livingston
 

Thank you all for the very quick answer! 

@Bill: Yes I did look at the drawings and have made pictures of these. Which would you like? From the pictures you have uploaded ours is rather different, have uploaded to the link you supplied.

@Olivier: Ok that is the one then! I have found it but did not know it was it, attached is the image of what we have and there is nothing connected to it. Do not know when and which electrician has circumvented it. The original inverter has been replaced with a Victron unit. 

@Jamie: We have the converter too! As seen on the image.

Next actions: Will have a look in the coming days and see if the GE has too been rewired to somewhere else. 


Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

Beaute Olivier
 

Hi Jamie,

in the original AMEL option for a 2.5kVA inverter, K2 is allowing the inverter to feed the 230V circuits only if generator is OFF and shore power cord is disconnected.

In case a 120V/230V step up transformer is installed, its 230V is not delivered through an automatic relay but through a big plug located at top front bulkhead of the engine room. You change the plug (feeding K1) from "230V quai" outlet to "230V transformer" outlet.

Olivier


On Sunday, March 17, 2019, 4:58:37 PM GMT+1, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


I uploaded 2 photos that will help you at: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/album?id=87146
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Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

 

I uploaded 2 photos that will help you at: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/album?id=87146
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Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

Jamie Wendell
 

Faial, you probably have only the K1 switch. It is located in a white box mounted on the wall behind the generator. On my 54, K1 automatically switches between shore power and generator feed. K2 is installed if you have a 120V transformer for use in the US.
Hope that helps.
Jamie
Phantom A54


Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Faial,

these automatic relays are located in a grey box, at aft top portside of the engine room, behind the 230V blower cooling the genset. The box is labeled "QUAI/GE/CONVERTISSEUR"
If you don't have the option of a 2.5kVA inverter feeding the 230V outlets network, then there is only one relay, and the box is labeled "QUAI/GE"

Good luck in your search.

Olivier

On Sunday, March 17, 2019, 3:57:55 PM GMT+1, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Did you look at electrical drawings of the 54 in APPENDIX 4 of your manual. I don't have a copy of this...do you?

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM Faial Livingston <flivingston@...> wrote:
Hello,

I've been trying to find where K1 & K2 are located on the Amel 54.

Unfortunately I am unable to do the check by finding the sound they make when switching off shore power and neither the second option with the Generator.

Could someone please share where exactly these automatic switches are in the Engine Room!

Best regards,
Faial Livingston
Cataya - 046 - Amel 54


Re: Olivier goes to TRINIDAD

 

Olivier,

I have a client in Trinidad who really needs to meet with you and his SM. I will put him in touch with you.
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Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

 

Did you look at electrical drawings of the 54 in APPENDIX 4 of your manual. I don't have a copy of this...do you?

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:29 AM Faial Livingston <flivingston@...> wrote:
Hello,

I've been trying to find where K1 & K2 are located on the Amel 54.

Unfortunately I am unable to do the check by finding the sound they make when switching off shore power and neither the second option with the Generator.

Could someone please share where exactly these automatic switches are in the Engine Room!

Best regards,
Faial Livingston
Cataya - 046 - Amel 54


Re: New Member - Amel Mango Hull #63-Is there an electronic Owners Manual in existence

 

I uploaded the Mango Manual that Rob Dillmann attached to the files section

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:06 AM Rob Dillmann <rob.dillmann@...> wrote:
Dear Ian,

We own an Amel Mango (nr 43) since the end of 2017, which we are fitting out in the south of France.
Attached you will find the manual I have found.

Regards,

Rob Dillmann
Amel Mango 'Westwind'



Op zo 17 mrt. 2019 om 13:45 schreef Ian Bone <auscaptain@...>:

Hello all,
I've recently purchased Hull #63 Mango. 
I'm in the process of reviewing documentation and wondered if there was an electronic Owners Manual for the Amel Mango available.

Ian


K1 & K2 Location - Amel 54

Faial Livingston
 

Hello,

I've been trying to find where K1 & K2 are located on the Amel 54.

Unfortunately I am unable to do the check by finding the sound they make when switching off shore power and neither the second option with the Generator.

Could someone please share where exactly these automatic switches are in the Engine Room!

Best regards,
Faial Livingston
Cataya - 046 - Amel 54


Re: New Member - Amel Mango Hull #63-Is there an electronic Owners Manual in existence

rob dillmann
 

Dear Ian,

We own an Amel Mango (nr 43) since the end of 2017, which we are fitting out in the south of France.
Attached you will find the manual I have found.

Regards,

Rob Dillmann
Amel Mango 'Westwind'



Op zo 17 mrt. 2019 om 13:45 schreef Ian Bone <auscaptain@...>:

Hello all,
I've recently purchased Hull #63 Mango. 
I'm in the process of reviewing documentation and wondered if there was an electronic Owners Manual for the Amel Mango available.

Ian


New Member - Amel Mango Hull #63-Is there an electronic Owners Manual in existence

Ian Bone
 

Hello all,
I've recently purchased Hull #63 Mango. 
I'm in the process of reviewing documentation and wondered if there was an electronic Owners Manual for the Amel Mango available.

Ian


Olivier goes to TRINIDAD

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Everybody,

I will be in Trinidad on second week of April.
If your AMEL is berthed there and you need some advice, I will be glad to help.

You may contact me on my yahoo address or at olivierbeaute at gmail dot com

Have a nice sunday.

Olivier


Re: Bahamas airports

Ian Townsend
 

H Pat, we have spent quite a bit of time in the Bahamas over the last four years. Any help or info we can get or you, feel free to email us at smlocaloca@....

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Exumas, Bahamas

On Mar 16, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32@...> wrote:

We may return north thru the Bahamas ,I have never sailed there before and have a question. We will have crew that will need to fly home, are there a few islands in the Exumas where there is an airport to fly from over to Fla. to make a connection home? 
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
Nevis/St.Kitts


Re: Anode wear

Scott SV Tengah
 

Have you checked for continuity between the two anodes? I had a similar problem and in my case, it was easily solved: The bolt holding on the starboard rudder anode was too short, preventing a good connection. I replaced it with a slightly longer one and now both anodes wear evenly. The rudder, as you probably know, is hollow, so you don't have to be precise. Can't recall the bolt length but I literally just took the old one and went to a chandlery and got the next longest one available.

Scott
Tengah A54 #69


Re: Engine room lining on Amel 54

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

We have the same problem, black dandruff coming off everywhere.  I believe the idea was to provide a water and oil resistant surface in the equipment space.  Good idea by Amel, poorly executed.  To that end I have used the Flex Seal spray on product, it seems to work well so far.  Like others I have had to remove the duct tape applied over the original black coating by the prior owner.  I don’t understand why anyone would think applying tape over a surface that is falling off would accomplish anything.  Oh well……

 

Mark Mueller

Brass Ring  A54


Easy way to access the Amel Yacht Owners Group has been provided and paid for by longtime member.

 

All,

Bob Rossi, longtime member of this group and owner of Super Maramu "KAIMI" has provided us with a domain name and easy to remember and use URL. From now on, you can use the URL of AmelYachtOwnersGroup.com to get to our group. Bob did the work and paid the costs.

Thanks, Bob, we appreciate it.
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Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Anode wear

Gary Silver
 
Edited

Hi Paul, Bill has seen a lot more Amel's than I have, but for what it is worth, on my SM 53 the anodes always seem to erode equally.  Knowing that the anodes are part of an electrical circuit I am careful to always clean the bolts, and the installed anode contact areas and assure adequate torque of the bolts (not overkill so as to strip things but snug).  As long as you are seeing some anode erosion then you are probably safe but at your next haul out it would be worth checking the continuity (resistance) between each anode bolt (i.e. side to side) and between each bolt individually relative to the cluster of bonding wires at the bilge bonding strap.  

Basically I would continue to monitor this and diagnose further during the next haul out. 

Best, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona 
Amel SM 2000 #335


Re: Bahamas airports

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Pat,

 

Depth is not a huge concern in the Exuma Islands but you do need to plan the routes carefully to avoid the shallow areas. We used the Explorer Guide and Chart Books. We found them to be very accurate. They show the best places to anchor and mark areas know to have good holding. https://www.explorercharts.com/  See if you can buy the Exuma Islands one used from a cruisers who is heading east to the Caribbean.

 

Keep in mind, the Bahamas have about a 3’ tide. If you are doing a channel marked as 7’, do it on a rising tide and you will not have issues. Also, the bottom is soft sand. So, if you do bump it’ll not damage much – mostly ego. We did two seasons in the Bahamas and never touched the bottom. In fact, I don’t think we sailed in less than 10 feet. It is sort of interesting to sail all day on the leeward side of the islands and never see more than 15 feet of water. It is fun to anchor there. Cindy would stand on the bow and give me a thumbs up when we were clear of grass and then she’d watch the anchor set in the sand. You can always see the bottom on the leeward sides of the islands.

 

You’ll need to be aware of a phenomena know as rage. This is when the tide is falling (water falls off the shallows and flows to the east) and is in the opposing direction of the East wind in the cuts between the islands. It can get very nasty in the cuts. Time your passages between the island cuts.

 

We loved the Exuma Cays Land and Sea National Park!!! https://bnt.bs/exuma-cays-land-sea-park/ There are fees to anchor or to pick up a buoy. Warderick Wells and Bells Cay are “must do” locations. For Warderick Wells, you need to radio them at 8am the day wish to visit and they will let you know if there is a buoy available (if not they will put you on the list for the next day but you have to check with them each day). Once there you stay as long as you want. Bells Cay is first come first served (stay for as long as you can pay). Waderick has incredible hiking. Bells has some of the best snorkeling and awesome beaches.

 

 

People go to the Bahamas for fishing, fabulous beaches, crystal clear water and isolation. It is very possible to anchor in a cove on a deserted island and have a beach all to yourself for days. People do not go there for great food and entertainment. Most stores are sparsely stocked and expensive. Provision well before going there.

 

BTW – Today is our first day of insurance with Y-Yacht. Thanks for all the info. There are an absolute pleasure to deal with.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Santa Marta, Colombia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:59 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bahamas airports

 

Mark, That’s what I needed to know. Many seem to like the Bahamas,as you apparently do. Should I expect to leave some bottom paint down there ,or is depths not a huge concern.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
Nevis


Re: Anode wear

 

Paul,

In my experience, the closest anode to the protected devices will dissolve more than the last.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 9:09 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <yafohi@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I just had my rudder anodes changed after having been on for 9 months. Of the two that came off, one had normal corrosion, probably about 20-30% corroded, but the other one had virtually no corrosion at all. The diver did say that it was not on very tight - would that be the cause or should I be concerned about a bad connection somewhere? I have attached a photo.

I must also say that this new forum is a vast improvement in the Yahoo one, so well done to those who implemented it.

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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Anode wear

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi all,

I just had my rudder anodes changed after having been on for 9 months. Of the two that came off, one had normal corrosion, probably about 20-30% corroded, but the other one had virtually no corrosion at all. The diver did say that it was not on very tight - would that be the cause or should I be concerned about a bad connection somewhere? I have attached a photo.

I must also say that this new forum is a vast improvement in the Yahoo one, so well done to those who implemented it.

--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

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