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Re: Dessalator duo 60 warning light

 

Alan,

Dessalator.com has the pressure switch for 156.26€ without VAT. Part number 100027.

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Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:39 AM Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:
Here’s what I have found.
I installed a bypass hose on the product water so I could divert the water before it went into the tank.
I removed the wires off the pressure sensor and everything came back to life. I ran it till the green “good water light came on then rotated the pressure knob until indicator was just in the green. Product water flowed. I tested the water every 3-4 mins and quality slowly improved. After about 15 mins it was down around 315 on my TDS meter so diverted it into the tank. We ran for 45 mins with no problem while keeping a good eye on the pressure gauge. We have run it 4 times since then and the only issue I have had is around the hour mark it will suddenly shut off and it is always when we are not watching, hopefully I will catch it one time.
I assume I should get 60 liters of product water per hour?
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2019 1:44:05 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light
 
One more thought, having lost much hair getting my water maker to work after new membranes:

Have you sampled and tested the “fresh” water output just before the red light comes on? If it is too salty, the switch will trip and shut it down. I had this problem because of incorrectly installed O-rings with the membrane. I am assuming new O-rings were installed with the new membranes?

Tom Peacock
Aletes SM 240
St Augustine, Florida



On Mar 24, 2019, at 9:36 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Alan,

Some random observations:
  1. The pressure knob should be turned all the way anticlockwise when flushing.
  2. It is possible that you have some sort of failure with the 24VDC bypass solenoid
  3. You should not have any waterflow showing in the glass waterflow indicator when flushing with freshwater.  I think it is possible that something is causing freshwater to pass through the tube and V shaped Brine seals to the product water pathway. The possible causes could be damaged V shaped Brine seals, something wrong in the assembly of the membranes, tubes and end caps, or possibly something wrong with the bypass solenoid. 
  4. The most common "Red Light" shutdown is because the high pressure sensor senses too high pressure. This is commonly caused by a defective pressure gauge. In other words, the actual pressure is higher than 50 bar and the sensor shuts the system down. I was supporting a client yesterday with this defective pressure gauge issue. I had him turn the pressure valve to about 1/2" short of the green. His system did not shut down and began making about 60 liters per hour.
  5. Flow indication when the pressure valve is completely turned anticlockwise and flushing with freshwater may be an indication of incorrect orientation of the tube end caps causing the shaped brine seal to be ineffective i.e. oriented the wrong way. It might also be caused by the hoses connected in reversed locations.
Take a look at the attached PDF, which is a page from my book. 

Be very careful because even the slightest reverse pressure (1-2 BAR) through the membranes will damage the membranes and cause them to be ineffective. By reverse pressure, I mean water flowing backwards from the product water output back into the membrane tubes. Unfortunately some people refer to the process of freshwater flushing as "backwashing." It is not. Freshwater flushing flushes the entire saltwater pathway and only the outside of the membranes.

I hope this helps.
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 7:15 PM Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:
Hi Eric, yes I removed both hoses from the membranes and I got water out.
We turned the knob increasing the pressure slowly. We were just in the green and we had product water start to flow, however we had looked away from the gauge when everything stopped and the warning light came on. We can fresh water flush and water flows thru and we have 10 liters  per hour on the flow meter.
Regards
Alan
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Sent: Saturday, 23 March 2019 11:46:39 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light
 

HI,

If I understand you correctly you disconnected both hoses from the membranes and the unit still went to the red alarm position. I assume you had no low pressure showing on the gauge, is that correct?

Or do you have low pressure in the green but the alarm light is on .

With the hoses disconnected from the membranes did water come out of either hose?

 

I went through the entire system last system with a problem  it even stumped  the USA Desalator rep.

I do have the 160, however, I might be able to help if you would reply.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 7:21 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light

 

Hi All, I started my water maker for the first time and I have a problem.
i put new membranes in and flushed it with fresh water for about 15 mins. I ran sea water thru it for about 5mins then started to slowly increase the pressure while checking for leaks. Once the needle was in the green it started producing product water but after about 1 min the warning light came on and now nothing runs. I was using the 24v side. I released the pressure knob and even unhooked the pressure lines then tried again. The red warning light came straight on. I reset the 24V breaker in the engine bay and checked the 2 fuses in the control box in the lazarette. I then tried the 220v side and had the same result.
does anyone have any ideas?
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai, SM 406
Cat Cay Bahamas




<Dessalator Membrane Orientation and  HP hose connections.pdf>


Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

James Cromie
 

Thank you Colin, and others for posting all this information on the various options for storage.  

No one has mentioned much about Aruba, but they seem to be rather competitively priced for dry storage.  Does anyone have an opinion  or experience with work or storage in Aruba - specifically at Veradero Marine? 

Thanks,
James  
Soteria #347


On Mar 27, 2019, at 8:40 PM, Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:

Hello Colin, 

Our experience at both was good. Both regularly handle Amels.  There were 4 other SM and a 54 at Curacao Marine while we were there.  There were at least 3 other SM in and out of  Peake when we were there.  We did not have much work done at either yard. We had bottom paint and hull wax applied at Peake, and only the hull polished at Curacao Marine.  A number of other boats we're having there bottoms refinished with copper-coat at Curacao Marine.  Seems they have the expertise and good price. 

Depth entering Curacao marina is something to watch but not a problem.  The use a submersible lift to lift the boat from the water and then place in the yard.  Peake uses a travel lift to hoist the boat and then they use a hydralic loft to move the boat around the yard. I saw no issues with either method.

Although I did not have much work done at either yard, my impression was that if you had a more varied list of jobs you wanted done then I would favor Peake.  What I observed and through limited interaction was that they had good electronic guy, canvis shop, diesel, and rigging on site. There was also a very good looking wood shop over at Powerboats next door.  And many other Marine services in the area.  They had a full time staff to professionally manage scheduling and completion of work at Peake.  Curacao Marine did seem to struggle a bit with that.

I did not think that Curacao was well set up for "boat minding". The boats are in a secure "bonded" yard so you can not hire your own boat minder.  The yard manager would do it, but really he had to many other things and no organizational support.  

At Curacao they do not have lodging on site. You have to book your own. Rental cars are cheep. Budget Marine was pretty good for sourcing my anchor chain.  Shopping  for other supplies is very good.   An additional benefit is adding a nice stop at Bonaire on the way.

Let me know if you have any more specific questions.

Regards, Dan Carlson on sv BeBe, sm#387



On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 11:57 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@... wrote:
Hi Dan

I would be most interested in your current assessment of Curacao Marine in terms of taking care of an Amel SM during haul out and storage compared to your experience at Peake.

We have just had a quote from Peake, and will be writing to Curacao Marine today for a quotation as well to compare prices.

What we are now more interested in is how well they both take care of the boat, as well as return flight costs to the UK from both locations before a final decision.

Thanks in advance
Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332
Pinny Beach, Nevis

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:42 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
James, we also stored our SM#387 at Peake Yacht Services from June 2017-Nov 2018.  We were pleased with the yard and the services.  We did not have much work done, but would go back again. We hauled out at Cuacao Marine this past year to position our boat for this current season in the western Carribean. 

Would be happy to answer any more questions.

Regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387



On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 4:56 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra







--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445




Re: French Boat, Great; French Manuals, not.

Mark Garver
 

Does anyone have manuals for the earlier SM’s? I have the SM2000 manual and there are many differences in the boats.

Thanks,

Mark
SM #105
It’s Good


On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:18 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Do you need a French or English manual?
--
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Dessalator duo 60 warning light

Alan Grayson
 

Here’s what I have found.
I installed a bypass hose on the product water so I could divert the water before it went into the tank.
I removed the wires off the pressure sensor and everything came back to life. I ran it till the green “good water light came on then rotated the pressure knob until indicator was just in the green. Product water flowed. I tested the water every 3-4 mins and quality slowly improved. After about 15 mins it was down around 315 on my TDS meter so diverted it into the tank. We ran for 45 mins with no problem while keeping a good eye on the pressure gauge. We have run it 4 times since then and the only issue I have had is around the hour mark it will suddenly shut off and it is always when we are not watching, hopefully I will catch it one time.
I assume I should get 60 liters of product water per hour?
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...>
Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2019 1:44:05 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light
 
One more thought, having lost much hair getting my water maker to work after new membranes:

Have you sampled and tested the “fresh” water output just before the red light comes on? If it is too salty, the switch will trip and shut it down. I had this problem because of incorrectly installed O-rings with the membrane. I am assuming new O-rings were installed with the new membranes?

Tom Peacock
Aletes SM 240
St Augustine, Florida



On Mar 24, 2019, at 9:36 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Alan,

Some random observations:
  1. The pressure knob should be turned all the way anticlockwise when flushing.
  2. It is possible that you have some sort of failure with the 24VDC bypass solenoid
  3. You should not have any waterflow showing in the glass waterflow indicator when flushing with freshwater.  I think it is possible that something is causing freshwater to pass through the tube and V shaped Brine seals to the product water pathway. The possible causes could be damaged V shaped Brine seals, something wrong in the assembly of the membranes, tubes and end caps, or possibly something wrong with the bypass solenoid. 
  4. The most common "Red Light" shutdown is because the high pressure sensor senses too high pressure. This is commonly caused by a defective pressure gauge. In other words, the actual pressure is higher than 50 bar and the sensor shuts the system down. I was supporting a client yesterday with this defective pressure gauge issue. I had him turn the pressure valve to about 1/2" short of the green. His system did not shut down and began making about 60 liters per hour.
  5. Flow indication when the pressure valve is completely turned anticlockwise and flushing with freshwater may be an indication of incorrect orientation of the tube end caps causing the shaped brine seal to be ineffective i.e. oriented the wrong way. It might also be caused by the hoses connected in reversed locations.
Take a look at the attached PDF, which is a page from my book. 

Be very careful because even the slightest reverse pressure (1-2 BAR) through the membranes will damage the membranes and cause them to be ineffective. By reverse pressure, I mean water flowing backwards from the product water output back into the membrane tubes. Unfortunately some people refer to the process of freshwater flushing as "backwashing." It is not. Freshwater flushing flushes the entire saltwater pathway and only the outside of the membranes.

I hope this helps.
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 7:15 PM Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:
Hi Eric, yes I removed both hoses from the membranes and I got water out.
We turned the knob increasing the pressure slowly. We were just in the green and we had product water start to flow, however we had looked away from the gauge when everything stopped and the warning light came on. We can fresh water flush and water flows thru and we have 10 liters  per hour on the flow meter.
Regards
Alan
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Sent: Saturday, 23 March 2019 11:46:39 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light
 

HI,

If I understand you correctly you disconnected both hoses from the membranes and the unit still went to the red alarm position. I assume you had no low pressure showing on the gauge, is that correct?

Or do you have low pressure in the green but the alarm light is on .

With the hoses disconnected from the membranes did water come out of either hose?

 

I went through the entire system last system with a problem  it even stumped  the USA Desalator rep.

I do have the 160, however, I might be able to help if you would reply.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 7:21 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator duo 60 warning light

 

Hi All, I started my water maker for the first time and I have a problem.
i put new membranes in and flushed it with fresh water for about 15 mins. I ran sea water thru it for about 5mins then started to slowly increase the pressure while checking for leaks. Once the needle was in the green it started producing product water but after about 1 min the warning light came on and now nothing runs. I was using the 24v side. I released the pressure knob and even unhooked the pressure lines then tried again. The red warning light came straight on. I reset the 24V breaker in the engine bay and checked the 2 fuses in the control box in the lazarette. I then tried the 220v side and had the same result.
does anyone have any ideas?
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai, SM 406
Cat Cay Bahamas




<Dessalator Membrane Orientation and  HP hose connections.pdf>


Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

Giorgio Ardrizzi
 

Colin, In Le Marin, Martinique, in the Shipchandler Ship, in February they sold the 10 mm galvanized chain at 6,70 euros (7.53 us $) per meter. I think it's one of the lowest prices in the Antilles and it's a chain made in France.


Il Gio 28 Mar 2019, 03:49 islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> ha scritto:
Hi Dan

Most helpful, thank you.

We are also looking to replace our anchor chain and best price and quality we found so far amongst all the islands so far was Budget Marine in St Martin at  approx $1500 for 100m of Aqua4 10mm P30 galvanised chain.

We will be getting a final quote for good French manufactured chain in Martinique soon too before purchasing.

What is your price in Curacao for what length and type of chain?

Best regards
Colin
SV Island Pearl II
Nevis


On Wed, 27 Mar. 2019, 20:43 Dan Carlson, <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
Hello Colin, 

Our experience at both was good. Both regularly handle Amels.  There were 4 other SM and a 54 at Curacao Marine while we were there.  There were at least 3 other SM in and out of  Peake when we were there.  We did not have much work done at either yard. We had bottom paint and hull wax applied at Peake, and only the hull polished at Curacao Marine.  A number of other boats we're having there bottoms refinished with copper-coat at Curacao Marine.  Seems they have the expertise and good price. 

Depth entering Curacao marina is something to watch but not a problem.  The use a submersible lift to lift the boat from the water and then place in the yard.  Peake uses a travel lift to hoist the boat and then they use a hydralic loft to move the boat around the yard. I saw no issues with either method.

Although I did not have much work done at either yard, my impression was that if you had a more varied list of jobs you wanted done then I would favor Peake.  What I observed and through limited interaction was that they had good electronic guy, canvis shop, diesel, and rigging on site. There was also a very good looking wood shop over at Powerboats next door.  And many other Marine services in the area.  They had a full time staff to professionally manage scheduling and completion of work at Peake.  Curacao Marine did seem to struggle a bit with that.

I did not think that Curacao was well set up for "boat minding". The boats are in a secure "bonded" yard so you can not hire your own boat minder.  The yard manager would do it, but really he had to many other things and no organizational support.  

At Curacao they do not have lodging on site. You have to book your own. Rental cars are cheep. Budget Marine was pretty good for sourcing my anchor chain.  Shopping  for other supplies is very good.   An additional benefit is adding a nice stop at Bonaire on the way.

Let me know if you have any more specific questions.

Regards, Dan Carlson on sv BeBe, sm#387



On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 11:57 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@... wrote:
Hi Dan

I would be most interested in your current assessment of Curacao Marine in terms of taking care of an Amel SM during haul out and storage compared to your experience at Peake.

We have just had a quote from Peake, and will be writing to Curacao Marine today for a quotation as well to compare prices.

What we are now more interested in is how well they both take care of the boat, as well as return flight costs to the UK from both locations before a final decision.

Thanks in advance
Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332
Pinny Beach, Nevis

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:42 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
James, we also stored our SM#387 at Peake Yacht Services from June 2017-Nov 2018.  We were pleased with the yard and the services.  We did not have much work done, but would go back again. We hauled out at Cuacao Marine this past year to position our boat for this current season in the western Carribean. 

Would be happy to answer any more questions.

Regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387



On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 4:56 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Hi Dan

Most helpful, thank you.

We are also looking to replace our anchor chain and best price and quality we found so far amongst all the islands so far was Budget Marine in St Martin at  approx $1500 for 100m of Aqua4 10mm P30 galvanised chain.

We will be getting a final quote for good French manufactured chain in Martinique soon too before purchasing.

What is your price in Curacao for what length and type of chain?

Best regards
Colin
SV Island Pearl II
Nevis


On Wed, 27 Mar. 2019, 20:43 Dan Carlson, <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
Hello Colin, 

Our experience at both was good. Both regularly handle Amels.  There were 4 other SM and a 54 at Curacao Marine while we were there.  There were at least 3 other SM in and out of  Peake when we were there.  We did not have much work done at either yard. We had bottom paint and hull wax applied at Peake, and only the hull polished at Curacao Marine.  A number of other boats we're having there bottoms refinished with copper-coat at Curacao Marine.  Seems they have the expertise and good price. 

Depth entering Curacao marina is something to watch but not a problem.  The use a submersible lift to lift the boat from the water and then place in the yard.  Peake uses a travel lift to hoist the boat and then they use a hydralic loft to move the boat around the yard. I saw no issues with either method.

Although I did not have much work done at either yard, my impression was that if you had a more varied list of jobs you wanted done then I would favor Peake.  What I observed and through limited interaction was that they had good electronic guy, canvis shop, diesel, and rigging on site. There was also a very good looking wood shop over at Powerboats next door.  And many other Marine services in the area.  They had a full time staff to professionally manage scheduling and completion of work at Peake.  Curacao Marine did seem to struggle a bit with that.

I did not think that Curacao was well set up for "boat minding". The boats are in a secure "bonded" yard so you can not hire your own boat minder.  The yard manager would do it, but really he had to many other things and no organizational support.  

At Curacao they do not have lodging on site. You have to book your own. Rental cars are cheep. Budget Marine was pretty good for sourcing my anchor chain.  Shopping  for other supplies is very good.   An additional benefit is adding a nice stop at Bonaire on the way.

Let me know if you have any more specific questions.

Regards, Dan Carlson on sv BeBe, sm#387



On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 11:57 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@... wrote:
Hi Dan

I would be most interested in your current assessment of Curacao Marine in terms of taking care of an Amel SM during haul out and storage compared to your experience at Peake.

We have just had a quote from Peake, and will be writing to Curacao Marine today for a quotation as well to compare prices.

What we are now more interested in is how well they both take care of the boat, as well as return flight costs to the UK from both locations before a final decision.

Thanks in advance
Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332
Pinny Beach, Nevis

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:42 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
James, we also stored our SM#387 at Peake Yacht Services from June 2017-Nov 2018.  We were pleased with the yard and the services.  We did not have much work done, but would go back again. We hauled out at Cuacao Marine this past year to position our boat for this current season in the western Carribean. 

Would be happy to answer any more questions.

Regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387



On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 4:56 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

Dan Carlson
 

Hello Colin, 

Our experience at both was good. Both regularly handle Amels.  There were 4 other SM and a 54 at Curacao Marine while we were there.  There were at least 3 other SM in and out of  Peake when we were there.  We did not have much work done at either yard. We had bottom paint and hull wax applied at Peake, and only the hull polished at Curacao Marine.  A number of other boats we're having there bottoms refinished with copper-coat at Curacao Marine.  Seems they have the expertise and good price. 

Depth entering Curacao marina is something to watch but not a problem.  The use a submersible lift to lift the boat from the water and then place in the yard.  Peake uses a travel lift to hoist the boat and then they use a hydralic loft to move the boat around the yard. I saw no issues with either method.

Although I did not have much work done at either yard, my impression was that if you had a more varied list of jobs you wanted done then I would favor Peake.  What I observed and through limited interaction was that they had good electronic guy, canvis shop, diesel, and rigging on site. There was also a very good looking wood shop over at Powerboats next door.  And many other Marine services in the area.  They had a full time staff to professionally manage scheduling and completion of work at Peake.  Curacao Marine did seem to struggle a bit with that.

I did not think that Curacao was well set up for "boat minding". The boats are in a secure "bonded" yard so you can not hire your own boat minder.  The yard manager would do it, but really he had to many other things and no organizational support.  

At Curacao they do not have lodging on site. You have to book your own. Rental cars are cheep. Budget Marine was pretty good for sourcing my anchor chain.  Shopping  for other supplies is very good.   An additional benefit is adding a nice stop at Bonaire on the way.

Let me know if you have any more specific questions.

Regards, Dan Carlson on sv BeBe, sm#387



On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 11:57 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@... wrote:
Hi Dan

I would be most interested in your current assessment of Curacao Marine in terms of taking care of an Amel SM during haul out and storage compared to your experience at Peake.

We have just had a quote from Peake, and will be writing to Curacao Marine today for a quotation as well to compare prices.

What we are now more interested in is how well they both take care of the boat, as well as return flight costs to the UK from both locations before a final decision.

Thanks in advance
Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332
Pinny Beach, Nevis

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:42 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
James, we also stored our SM#387 at Peake Yacht Services from June 2017-Nov 2018.  We were pleased with the yard and the services.  We did not have much work done, but would go back again. We hauled out at Cuacao Marine this past year to position our boat for this current season in the western Carribean. 

Would be happy to answer any more questions.

Regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387



On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 4:56 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

Giorgio Ardrizzi
 

My Sharki stayed for 6 months at Peake and when I came back, in a work day I cleaned all the deck. By my choice I wanted the yacht to be placed near the trees to have a little more shade in the morning and this resulted in many dead leaves and dirt on the deck.
I didn't want any dehumidifier or air conditioner and nobody to open the boat. Nothing serious has happened.
After 2 years in Brazil, especially in the area of ​​Parati and Angra dos Reis, I saw what real humidity is!
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Mer 27 Mar 2019, 17:57 islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> ha scritto:
Hi Dan

I would be most interested in your current assessment of Curacao Marine in terms of taking care of an Amel SM during haul out and storage compared to your experience at Peake.

We have just had a quote from Peake, and will be writing to Curacao Marine today for a quotation as well to compare prices.

What we are now more interested in is how well they both take care of the boat, as well as return flight costs to the UK from both locations before a final decision.

Thanks in advance
Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332
Pinny Beach, Nevis

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:42 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
James, we also stored our SM#387 at Peake Yacht Services from June 2017-Nov 2018.  We were pleased with the yard and the services.  We did not have much work done, but would go back again. We hauled out at Cuacao Marine this past year to position our boat for this current season in the western Carribean. 

Would be happy to answer any more questions.

Regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387



On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 4:56 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

 

Colin,

I think they both are good, but you need to take extra steps if you store in Trinidad because of the humidity. Peaks can arrange for a small air conditioner to be mounted at the companionway and you will still be able to lock your boat. Maybe Dan Carlson can upload a photo of this. You will need to hire someone to check your boat, but Peaks can help with that.

Be careful about anyone at either location who may claim to know Amels. I flew to Curacao to help a client who trusted the yard to service his C-Drive and bow thruster. Both were done wrong. The yard owner/manager will exaggerate his knowledge of Amels and even if he did know what to do, he left an untrained mechanic to do the job. That owner/manager is very convincing. And remember, Curacao has had hurricanes. They had 2 in 2007. We sailed south to avoid one of them and was there for the 2nd one. Both were cat 1 hurricanes. I think it has been a long time since Trinidad had a hurricane. 

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 1:58 PM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Hi Rainer
Very interesting, thank you.
Colin
SV Island Pearl II, SM #332
Nevis

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 2:36 PM Rainer Huthmacher via Groups.Io <thelastoneever=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Colin, 
I had my SM 6 month in Chaguaramas stores, when I came back I had plants growing on the deck, my bimini was green and I had some mold inside the boat. A year later I had the boat in Curacao which has a much dryer climate. I can not recommend the mechanics in Curaçao, but they do an excellent paint job. If you have work to do on the boat I would definitely go to Peaks, but just for storage Curacao is the better option, your boat will be in a better shape. Trinidad has a very muggy and humid climate.
Fair winds
Rainer Sharki#83 currently in Las Palmas

On 27. Mar 2019, at 16:54, islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Hi Dan

I would be most interested in your current assessment of Curacao Marine in terms of taking care of an Amel SM during haul out and storage compared to your experience at Peake.

We have just had a quote from Peake, and will be writing to Curacao Marine today for a quotation as well to compare prices.

What we are now more interested in is how well they both take care of the boat, as well as return flight costs to the UK from both locations before a final decision.

Thanks in advance
Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332
Pinny Beach, Nevis

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:42 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
James, we also stored our SM#387 at Peake Yacht Services from June 2017-Nov 2018.  We were pleased with the yard and the services.  We did not have much work done, but would go back again. We hauled out at Cuacao Marine this past year to position our boat for this current season in the western Carribean. 

Would be happy to answer any more questions.

Regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387



On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 4:56 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Amel decal

david bruce
 


Great, thanks Stefano. 

Dave Bruce
LIESSE  SN006
Gaeta, Italy


On Mar 27, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Stefano Biffi <cptbiffi@...> wrote:

sav@...

Maud will reply at this one 

Stefano 
N’EVEREST SM185
now dry dock in Italy

Il giorno 27 mar 2019, alle ore 21:25, davidcbruce57@... ha scritto:

Does anyone have contact info for Maud handy, i’d like a set of decals too.  Thx

Dave Bruce 
Liesse  SN 006 


On Mar 27, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:

Maud at AMEL has them. Reasonable price, cheaper than getting one cut.

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Exumas, Bahamas

On Mar 27, 2019, at 1:08 PM, Rob Hughes via Groups.Io <svluna01@...> wrote:

I need to replace the Amel logo stickers does any one have a J peg file I can send to a vinyl shop to get cut? 

Thanks.


Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Hi Rainer
Very interesting, thank you.
Colin
SV Island Pearl II, SM #332
Nevis

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 2:36 PM Rainer Huthmacher via Groups.Io <thelastoneever=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Colin, 
I had my SM 6 month in Chaguaramas stores, when I came back I had plants growing on the deck, my bimini was green and I had some mold inside the boat. A year later I had the boat in Curacao which has a much dryer climate. I can not recommend the mechanics in Curaçao, but they do an excellent paint job. If you have work to do on the boat I would definitely go to Peaks, but just for storage Curacao is the better option, your boat will be in a better shape. Trinidad has a very muggy and humid climate.
Fair winds
Rainer Sharki#83 currently in Las Palmas

On 27. Mar 2019, at 16:54, islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Hi Dan

I would be most interested in your current assessment of Curacao Marine in terms of taking care of an Amel SM during haul out and storage compared to your experience at Peake.

We have just had a quote from Peake, and will be writing to Curacao Marine today for a quotation as well to compare prices.

What we are now more interested in is how well they both take care of the boat, as well as return flight costs to the UK from both locations before a final decision.

Thanks in advance
Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332
Pinny Beach, Nevis

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:42 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
James, we also stored our SM#387 at Peake Yacht Services from June 2017-Nov 2018.  We were pleased with the yard and the services.  We did not have much work done, but would go back again. We hauled out at Cuacao Marine this past year to position our boat for this current season in the western Carribean. 

Would be happy to answer any more questions.

Regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387



On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 4:56 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Amel decal

Stefano Biffi
 

sav@...

Maud will reply at this one 

Stefano 
N’EVEREST SM185
now dry dock in Italy

Il giorno 27 mar 2019, alle ore 21:25, davidcbruce57@... ha scritto:

Does anyone have contact info for Maud handy, i’d like a set of decals too.  Thx

Dave Bruce 
Liesse  SN 006 


On Mar 27, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:

Maud at AMEL has them. Reasonable price, cheaper than getting one cut.

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Exumas, Bahamas

On Mar 27, 2019, at 1:08 PM, Rob Hughes via Groups.Io <svluna01@...> wrote:

I need to replace the Amel logo stickers does any one have a J peg file I can send to a vinyl shop to get cut? 

Thanks.


Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

Rainer Huthmacher
 

Hi Colin, 
I had my SM 6 month in Chaguaramas stores, when I came back I had plants growing on the deck, my bimini was green and I had some mold inside the boat. A year later I had the boat in Curacao which has a much dryer climate. I can not recommend the mechanics in Curaçao, but they do an excellent paint job. If you have work to do on the boat I would definitely go to Peaks, but just for storage Curacao is the better option, your boat will be in a better shape. Trinidad has a very muggy and humid climate.
Fair winds
Rainer Sharki#83 currently in Las Palmas

On 27. Mar 2019, at 16:54, islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Hi Dan

I would be most interested in your current assessment of Curacao Marine in terms of taking care of an Amel SM during haul out and storage compared to your experience at Peake.

We have just had a quote from Peake, and will be writing to Curacao Marine today for a quotation as well to compare prices.

What we are now more interested in is how well they both take care of the boat, as well as return flight costs to the UK from both locations before a final decision.

Thanks in advance
Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332
Pinny Beach, Nevis

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:42 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
James, we also stored our SM#387 at Peake Yacht Services from June 2017-Nov 2018.  We were pleased with the yard and the services.  We did not have much work done, but would go back again. We hauled out at Cuacao Marine this past year to position our boat for this current season in the western Carribean. 

Would be happy to answer any more questions.

Regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387



On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 4:56 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Amel decal

david bruce
 

Does anyone have contact info for Maud handy, i’d like a set of decals too.  Thx

Dave Bruce 
Liesse  SN 006 


On Mar 27, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:

Maud at AMEL has them. Reasonable price, cheaper than getting one cut.

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Exumas, Bahamas

On Mar 27, 2019, at 1:08 PM, Rob Hughes via Groups.Io <svluna01@...> wrote:

I need to replace the Amel logo stickers does any one have a J peg file I can send to a vinyl shop to get cut? 

Thanks.


Re: Amel decal

Ian Townsend
 

Maud at AMEL has them. Reasonable price, cheaper than getting one cut.

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
Exumas, Bahamas

On Mar 27, 2019, at 1:08 PM, Rob Hughes via Groups.Io <svluna01@...> wrote:

I need to replace the Amel logo stickers does any one have a J peg file I can send to a vinyl shop to get cut? 

Thanks.


Amel decal

Rob Hughes
 

I need to replace the Amel logo stickers does any one have a J peg file I can send to a vinyl shop to get cut? 

Thanks.


Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Hi Dan

I would be most interested in your current assessment of Curacao Marine in terms of taking care of an Amel SM during haul out and storage compared to your experience at Peake.

We have just had a quote from Peake, and will be writing to Curacao Marine today for a quotation as well to compare prices.

What we are now more interested in is how well they both take care of the boat, as well as return flight costs to the UK from both locations before a final decision.

Thanks in advance
Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332
Pinny Beach, Nevis

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:42 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
James, we also stored our SM#387 at Peake Yacht Services from June 2017-Nov 2018.  We were pleased with the yard and the services.  We did not have much work done, but would go back again. We hauled out at Cuacao Marine this past year to position our boat for this current season in the western Carribean. 

Would be happy to answer any more questions.

Regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387



On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 4:56 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Removing the original Vetus Coupler on SM

John Clark
 

Ahh finally saw the picture.  I misunderstood and thought the poster was asking about the coupling boot under the C-drive....got it now.  


On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 7:35 PM John Clark via Groups.Io <john.biohead=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Just want to jump in maybe in ignorance but motivated by caution.  Mention of cutting and torches raises an alarm bell with me.

I have SM37 with a steel cdrive.  A friend has a close hull number with the aluminum drive. It was easy to remove.  Done in Martinique by Amel and subcontractor.  Are you saying you have the aluminum drive and the mounting bolts are loose in their holes?

I think I have a near original vetus coupling (I think the original owner had the aluminum drive replaced with steel when Amel offered a free replacement in the early years.) The coupling looks aged but does not leak or allow any significant movement of the c drive underway.

I would suggest asking for Amel technical assistance, or Olivier Beaute, or Bill Rouse...before taking aggressive action.

John
SV Annie SM 37
Brunswick GA. 


On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 6:36 PM Dan Wilcox via Groups.Io <dwilcox123=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Unfortunately yes... The rubber bushings were so far gone it started to warp the 4 bolt holes in the aluminium hosing.  The 4 studs also showed cracks by 2 of the studs.  So this was long overdue.  

As a side note I'm also replacing all the engine mounts for the engine rail.  When I took the first one off it was reduced to rubber powder inside.  So many project to get this beauty back into prime condition.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86

On Monday, March 25, 2019, 3:15:37 PM PDT, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:


Hi Dan.

are you sure the outer housing is beyond redemption?. Ie is the internal shape seriously compromised. External rust is not a reason to replace. It is seriously difficult to remove from the input shaft of the C drive. There are rubber bushes in the unit on a cross that need replacing periodically, preferably before you get metal to meal contact.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 26 March 2019 at 09:29 "Dan Wilcox via Groups.Io" <dwilcox123=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hoping someone can provide some wisdom for removing what I believe to be the original vetus coupler.  Unfortunately is has gone past its prime and a new one is needed.  That said we have used a wheel puller to remove it, but with no luck.  Before I try a torch or just cutting it off I wanted to get a read from the group.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86


Re: Dessalator AC motor

Barry Connor
 

Hi Bill and All,

My 220v low pressure Dessalator pump started leaking after 10 years. The pump started leaking at the shaft motor connection going into the pump and needed to be rebuilt,  the stainless shaft from the electric motor going into the pump had rust groves. This meant that changing the seal was useless. The electric motor needed to be replaced. 
I tried to get answers for 3 months from Dessalator agents and was fortunate to be passing Antibes and called in to see Nicolas at Dessalator.
He was very helpful, explained everything and made up all the fittings that I needed and even made up a high pressure hose that I wanted. Gave me a very good price, less than the Dessalator agents wanted. He supplied a newer low pressure pump which he says will not have the shaft corrode like the old pump as they have been made with better stainless steel when making the shaft. Nicolas also told me not to buy the membranes and store them as they have a shelf life and to only buy them when you are going to change them.
I will stay with Dessalator even though they don't take credit cards. In my opinion you can trust them with a bank transfer. I paid cash though and at that time had to pass over the motorway at Antibes junction twice navigating the picketing Yellow Jackets to get to the nearest ATM.
The warehouse at Antibes is small but well stocked and they do ship daily from there.

All the Best

Barry and Penny
"Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54. #17
Marina di Ragusa. Sicily

On Wednesday, March 27, 2019, 10:21:10 AM EDT, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


I agree. Nicolas Bouffartigue is very helpful...and remember he was not working for Dessalator when they faked the TDS quality sensor in the D160 control PCB. 

Spectra is making a high capacity watermaker with an integrated and continuous TDS tester with a digital readout. BUT, you can adjust the readout up or down. Think about this. If you were buying a boat with this Spectra watermaker and relied on the integrated tester, what are you really relying on? Although Spectra has one of the best customer service departments of all watermaker companies, I really do not like the system.

I still believe the Dessalator watermaker to be one of the best available, but I admit that my experience with other brands is limited. Thankfully, all brands use basically the same membranes made by Filmtec.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 1:25 AM Rink De Haan <rinkdehaan@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Last year I had to replace the gap meter (the glass tube at the panel) of my D160 water maker. I contacted Nicolas Bouffartigue of Dessalator and was excellently helped both with the selection of the right model and the installation instructions.
So not always that bad.

Best regards
Rink
SM2K #330

 

Van: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io namens Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...>
Verzonden: woensdag, maart 27, 2019 2:39 AM
Aan: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator AC motor
 
Hi Mohammad,

Indeed, he is very helpful.  He knows these units like he designed them! :-)

However, Dessalator themselves are no use for after sales. 

Cheers to both of you.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007


On 27 Mar 2019, at 12:26, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi JP;

Try contacting Martin, their main tech support guy. He has always been very helpful to us and very knowledgeable. 

His number is +33 6 07 34 65 11 &    +34 637 890 333

Respectfully;


Mohammad And Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099

On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre via Groups.Io <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

FWIW, I’ve resolved to bypass Dessalator for any spares. Their “after sales” service is inexistent.  They do not even have payment via CC.

We’ve been told this factor was important in their loss of the Lagoon contract.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 27 Mar 2019, at 10:20, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Thanks Arno and Bill

Exactly what I need.

This is indeed a standard 1hp/0.75kW motor.

Dessalator price Eu 500 .....Ebay generic motor A$130 !!

Problem solved, not worth repairing it

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Dessalator AC motor

 

I agree. Nicolas Bouffartigue is very helpful...and remember he was not working for Dessalator when they faked the TDS quality sensor in the D160 control PCB. 

Spectra is making a high capacity watermaker with an integrated and continuous TDS tester with a digital readout. BUT, you can adjust the readout up or down. Think about this. If you were buying a boat with this Spectra watermaker and relied on the integrated tester, what are you really relying on? Although Spectra has one of the best customer service departments of all watermaker companies, I really do not like the system.

I still believe the Dessalator watermaker to be one of the best available, but I admit that my experience with other brands is limited. Thankfully, all brands use basically the same membranes made by Filmtec.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 1:25 AM Rink De Haan <rinkdehaan@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Last year I had to replace the gap meter (the glass tube at the panel) of my D160 water maker. I contacted Nicolas Bouffartigue of Dessalator and was excellently helped both with the selection of the right model and the installation instructions.
So not always that bad.

Best regards
Rink
SM2K #330

 

Van: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io namens Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...>
Verzonden: woensdag, maart 27, 2019 2:39 AM
Aan: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator AC motor
 
Hi Mohammad,

Indeed, he is very helpful.  He knows these units like he designed them! :-)

However, Dessalator themselves are no use for after sales. 

Cheers to both of you.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007


On 27 Mar 2019, at 12:26, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi JP;

Try contacting Martin, their main tech support guy. He has always been very helpful to us and very knowledgeable. 

His number is +33 6 07 34 65 11 &    +34 637 890 333

Respectfully;


Mohammad And Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099

On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre via Groups.Io <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

FWIW, I’ve resolved to bypass Dessalator for any spares. Their “after sales” service is inexistent.  They do not even have payment via CC.

We’ve been told this factor was important in their loss of the Lagoon contract.

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007.


On 27 Mar 2019, at 10:20, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Thanks Arno and Bill

Exactly what I need.

This is indeed a standard 1hp/0.75kW motor.

Dessalator price Eu 500 .....Ebay generic motor A$130 !!

Problem solved, not worth repairing it

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437