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Re: Amel SM 2000 in the UK

Dean Gillies
 

Mark and Nicky,
Two years ago I was in a similar situation, except I was in Australia.  I organised to see a range of boats with the Amel specialist broker Michel Charpentier. I flew to France and spent a week looking at Amels. Michel was a great help, and the visit cemented our thinking about which brand of boat to buy.

We bought an Amel 54 in Italy later that year, with the help of Michel and surveyor Olivier Beaute. We are really delighted with the boat.

I really recommend you get over to France and look at a number of boats. 

For what it’s worth, we’ll be wintering Stella at the end of this summer in Ardrossan, but won’t be there till September. If your still “lurking”, then you’re welcome to take a peek 😎

cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154

Re: Anchor Chain

amel46met
 

Thanks for the heads up on re-galvanizing the anchor chain I was concerned it might weaken it thanks Tom Deasy Amel Maramu number 125 1983

Scientific Study on Martinique and the impact of Hurricanes

 

I found a scientific study on the Risks of Hurricanes in Martinique. I was surprised and the detail and the conclusions. I cannot attest to the accuracy, but most of it seems logical.

I uploaded it to the files section in a folder named Hurricane and Cyclone Information. You should be able to get it by following this link: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/files/Hurricane%20and%20Cyclone%20Information/Hurricane%20Risks%20Martinique%20-%20ENG.pdf
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Re: Genoa sheet cars removal

amel46met
 

Hi Miles I have had my railings off twice unscrew the through bolts at the base of the stanchion forward end of track , lift up and outboard . my old Maramu did not have adjustable sheet cars I put new ones on , turning blocks and cleats very easy job Tom Deasy Amel Maramu number 125-1983

On Mar 29, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Miles,
on the SM there is a one sided base so it is easy to push it inwards once the screws are out.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
On 29 March 2019 at 23:39 "smiles bernard via Groups.Io" <smilesbernard=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:



Hi there
My Genoa car pin lifting wheel broke yesterday so the removal of the sheet cars has now become a must do rather than a
‘nice to do’ service job

Some people have suggested to undo the fwd stanchion base and push it aside

Just to confirm - my stanchion base is bolted through the toe rail and has metal cheeks each side of that toe rail so pushing it amid ships is not an option

Those who have had success with this - did you push the stanchion fwd? Does this gain enough clearance?
It looks like it would be hard to push the stanchion fwd but perhaps it’s just a brute force thing and hope it goes back afterwards?


Many thanks in advance

Miles

Maramu 162


I’ve looked again at the stanchion based


Sent from my iPhone



Re: Anchor Chain

Giorgio Ardrizzi
 

Hi Tom, I have a 10 mm chain from 1990 and since 1992 I live 8 months a year on board, almost always anchoring. In 1998 I had the chain sandblasted and galvanized in Buenos Aires and to this day it is still in good condition. Be careful because it must be a company that specializes in the galvanization of moving parts because the risk is that the links of the chain stick together and the zinc comes off when you try to separate them. This galvanization was much better than the original one.
Giorgio Ardrizzi (Saudade III - Sharki #1)


Il Ven 29 Mar 2019, 17:34 amel46met <onboardaphrodite@...> ha scritto:
Hello amel group on the subject of new anchor chain what do you think about re-galvanizing the anchor chain thanks Tom Amel Maramu #125



Re: Genoa sheet cars removal

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Miles,
on the SM there is a one sided base so it is easy to push it inwards once the screws are out.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On 29 March 2019 at 23:39 "smiles bernard via Groups.Io" <smilesbernard=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:



Hi there
My Genoa car pin lifting wheel broke yesterday so the removal of the sheet cars has now become a must do rather than a
‘nice to do’ service job

Some people have suggested to undo the fwd stanchion base and push it aside

Just to confirm - my stanchion base is bolted through the toe rail and has metal cheeks each side of that toe rail so pushing it amid ships is not an option

Those who have had success with this - did you push the stanchion fwd? Does this gain enough clearance?
It looks like it would be hard to push the stanchion fwd but perhaps it’s just a brute force thing and hope it goes back afterwards?


Many thanks in advance

Miles

Maramu 162


I’ve looked again at the stanchion based


Sent from my iPhone


Re: Anchor Chain

 

Regalvanizing works well, if you haven't waited too long. We regalvanized our chain, or bought new chain every 4 years of mostly continuous service. Finding a place to properly do regalvanizing is getting to be difficult.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:34 AM amel46met <onboardaphrodite@...> wrote:
Hello amel group on the subject of new anchor chain what do you think about re-galvanizing the anchor chain thanks Tom Amel Maramu #125



Re: Amel SM 2000 in the UK

Keith Carter <keithcarter88@...>
 

Hi Mark and Nicky

My SM 2000 is also an Easyjet flight away in Kos.  She is for sale owing to an injury (otherwise I’d be sailing her now!) and on the hard - so you could see the super-safe underwater configuration too. I was once saved from a ‘cruiser-racer’ which lost its unsupported rudder mid Atlantic and so can attest to the wisdom of the skeg, and in 5 years sailing Guma never experienced anything wrapping around the prop, sited in a great protected place and furnished with a spurs rope-cutter. 
Yep, like everyone else on this site I have drunk the Kool-Aid - but it’s all true! Amels are great, and the SM2000 is probably the best they ever made - before Henri's influence dwindled. 

Kind regards

Keith (SM2000 261 GUMA)

Re: Genoa sheet cars removal

Gerhard Mueller
 

It is very easy to get the pin out once the wheel is broken.
When you got a new wheel press the pin down into the some smaller whole of the new wheel.


--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

Anchor Chain

amel46met
 

Hello amel group on the subject of new anchor chain what do you think about re-galvanizing the anchor chain thanks Tom Amel Maramu #125

Re: Re :[AmelYachtOwners] Genoa sheet cars removal

Gerhard Mueller
 

Miles

My solution was to get fabricated new pin wheels when I was in Tunisia.
I have paid only a small amount for the new ones make of bronze.


--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

Re: Re :[AmelYachtOwners] Genoa sheet cars removal

smiles bernard
 

Thanks for this Christian

I have two problems I think!

One is the pin wheel 

10mm pin OD as you say - picture attached

So I’d like to fix that 

image1.jpeg

Could you kindly explain again your solution?

I’m not clear about the 2mm gap you mention and how this works. 

I assume I can get a metal disc cut for a new wheel but I’m unsure how to reattach it to the pin whilst inside the Genoa car. 

Many thanks for any further info you could provide !


The other problem is the actual car itself - the top metal section is wearing thin so I’d like to replace soon too but I will have to remove the car for this so I’m still trying to work out if I can avoid cutting a small end section of the T track ‘T’ profile off. 
Others have mentioned that the stanchions can be moved but I still don’t quite see how as mine are through bolted with no means to move them to port/starboard direction. If others who have done this could advise I would be most grateful. 

Many thanks in advance

Miles
Maramu 162
Martenique 


On 29 Mar 2019, at 08:48, christian alby via Groups.Io <calbyy@...> wrote:

Hi there Miles,
Had 2 alm alloy wheels shattered (genoa & jibsheet travellers) already, & given the difficul task of removing the travellers, had 2 wheels cut off at original wheel dimensions,
25 mm OD - 5 MM Thk - 10 mm dia center hole
 then sliced one sector with 2 mm gap to allow the wheel to be inserted back in traveller, under spring.
Works fine until now (fitted since June 2018) & 4 spares ready to cover further failures.
Fair winds

Christian alby - Desirade VIII Maramu 116 - now in Canet en Roussillon


Le ven., mars 29, 2019 à 11:39, smiles bernard via Groups.Io
<smilesbernard@...> a écrit :

Hi there
> My Genoa car pin lifting wheel broke yesterday so the removal of the sheet cars has now become a must do rather than a
> ‘nice to do’ service job
>
> Some people have suggested to undo the fwd stanchion base and push it aside
>
> Just to confirm - my stanchion base is bolted through the toe rail and has metal cheeks each side of that toe rail so pushing it amid ships is not an option
>
> Those who have had success with this - did you push the stanchion fwd? Does this gain enough clearance?
> It looks like it would be hard to push the stanchion fwd but perhaps it’s just a brute force thing and hope it goes back afterwards?
>
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> Miles
>
> Maramu 162
>
>
> I’ve looked again at the stanchion based
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone



Re: Amel SM 2000 in the UK

Ian Park
 

Our Santorin is based in North Wales. SM’s little sister. Leaving for Scotland 10th May
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96

Re: PITU

 

Thanks Maria. Hi to Willy. 

Please tell Mr. Smith to go to https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main to make application.

Good luck to you and Willy.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 4:24 AM Maria Geiger via Groups.Io <pitugolf=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
After 9 years of sailing around the world with our beautiful SM PITU we decided to start new adventures in our Homeland Switzerland.
PITU has been for us a great boat and we gave her all the maintenance she needed.
Ivan Russell Smith is now the new owner of PITU. He is from Oregon and will start sailing form Tahiti.
Please accept Ivan as a member of Amel Yacht Owners  and as a new owner of PITU.

We will like also to thank all the members of this group that for so many years helped us with good advices and inputs.

Amel will stay for ever in our life and specially PITU.

Maria and Willy Geiger
SY PITU
www.pitugolf-pitu.com
Now in Tahiti

Re: Cleaning Santorin Diesel tank #Wiki

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 

Hi Herbert,
I'd highly recommend the dry storage facilities at Marina San Carlos (called Marine Seca - "dry Marina"). They have steel casings between every boat to prevent a domino effect disaster. It's a family run business that's well respected throughout the boating community. Near to Guaymus for flying in/out. It's $4.08/ft per month, plus a haul charge - see the website.

Regarding your tank, I think you may be able to snake a tube or hose down the fill and under the internal baffles to the low point, although I have not done that. Maybe you could try with a "fish wire" first - you should be able to hear/feel it near the outlet fitting if you're successful - then switch to a tube.  Also, I haven't opened my tank but I think there is just one baffle in the middle - try tapping the side of the tank and you should be able to hear where the baffle is. If you've got the tank run down near empty you could also just disconnect the outlet line, drain the last bit of fuel, then remove the valve itself and swab the deep end of the tank out through that hole.

Good luck with it,
Craig, SN68 Sangaris

Re :[AmelYachtOwners] Genoa sheet cars removal

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

Hi there Miles,
Had 2 alm alloy wheels shattered (genoa & jibsheet travellers) already, & given the difficul task of removing the travellers, had 2 wheels cut off at original wheel dimensions,
25 mm OD - 5 MM Thk - 10 mm dia center hole
 then sliced one sector with 2 mm gap to allow the wheel to be inserted back in traveller, under spring.
Works fine until now (fitted since June 2018) & 4 spares ready to cover further failures.
Fair winds

Christian alby - Desirade VIII Maramu 116 - now in Canet en Roussillon

Le ven., mars 29, 2019 à 11:39, smiles bernard via Groups.Io
<smilesbernard@...> a écrit :

Hi there
> My Genoa car pin lifting wheel broke yesterday so the removal of the sheet cars has now become a must do rather than a
> ‘nice to do’ service job
>
> Some people have suggested to undo the fwd stanchion base and push it aside
>
> Just to confirm - my stanchion base is bolted through the toe rail and has metal cheeks each side of that toe rail so pushing it amid ships is not an option
>
> Those who have had success with this - did you push the stanchion fwd? Does this gain enough clearance?
> It looks like it would be hard to push the stanchion fwd but perhaps it’s just a brute force thing and hope it goes back afterwards?
>
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> Miles
>
> Maramu 162
>
>
> I’ve looked again at the stanchion based
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone



Re: Long term storage options in southern Caribbean

Dan Carlson
 

Anchor chain in Curacao was also Magga Aqua4 10mm P30 for $1515 for 300 ft.  That was duty free and a 10% discount linked to the OCC rally we we're part of.  
Roeland van Bijnin was the manager/contact there. He was helpful.

Regards Dan Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387


On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 9:49 PM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@... wrote:
Hi Dan

Most helpful, thank you.

We are also looking to replace our anchor chain and best price and quality we found so far amongst all the islands so far was Budget Marine in St Martin at  approx $1500 for 100m of Aqua4 10mm P30 galvanised chain.

We will be getting a final quote for good French manufactured chain in Martinique soon too before purchasing.

What is your price in Curacao for what length and type of chain?

Best regards
Colin
SV Island Pearl II
Nevis


On Wed, 27 Mar. 2019, 20:43 Dan Carlson, <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
Hello Colin, 

Our experience at both was good. Both regularly handle Amels.  There were 4 other SM and a 54 at Curacao Marine while we were there.  There were at least 3 other SM in and out of  Peake when we were there.  We did not have much work done at either yard. We had bottom paint and hull wax applied at Peake, and only the hull polished at Curacao Marine.  A number of other boats we're having there bottoms refinished with copper-coat at Curacao Marine.  Seems they have the expertise and good price. 

Depth entering Curacao marina is something to watch but not a problem.  The use a submersible lift to lift the boat from the water and then place in the yard.  Peake uses a travel lift to hoist the boat and then they use a hydralic loft to move the boat around the yard. I saw no issues with either method.

Although I did not have much work done at either yard, my impression was that if you had a more varied list of jobs you wanted done then I would favor Peake.  What I observed and through limited interaction was that they had good electronic guy, canvis shop, diesel, and rigging on site. There was also a very good looking wood shop over at Powerboats next door.  And many other Marine services in the area.  They had a full time staff to professionally manage scheduling and completion of work at Peake.  Curacao Marine did seem to struggle a bit with that.

I did not think that Curacao was well set up for "boat minding". The boats are in a secure "bonded" yard so you can not hire your own boat minder.  The yard manager would do it, but really he had to many other things and no organizational support.  

At Curacao they do not have lodging on site. You have to book your own. Rental cars are cheep. Budget Marine was pretty good for sourcing my anchor chain.  Shopping  for other supplies is very good.   An additional benefit is adding a nice stop at Bonaire on the way.

Let me know if you have any more specific questions.

Regards, Dan Carlson on sv BeBe, sm#387



On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 11:57 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@... wrote:
Hi Dan

I would be most interested in your current assessment of Curacao Marine in terms of taking care of an Amel SM during haul out and storage compared to your experience at Peake.

We have just had a quote from Peake, and will be writing to Curacao Marine today for a quotation as well to compare prices.

What we are now more interested in is how well they both take care of the boat, as well as return flight costs to the UK from both locations before a final decision.

Thanks in advance
Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332
Pinny Beach, Nevis

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:42 PM Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:
James, we also stored our SM#387 at Peake Yacht Services from June 2017-Nov 2018.  We were pleased with the yard and the services.  We did not have much work done, but would go back again. We hauled out at Cuacao Marine this past year to position our boat for this current season in the western Carribean. 

Would be happy to answer any more questions.

Regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387



On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 4:56 PM James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
Giorgio - Thank you so much for the info!  I will definitely contact Daniella.  I have heard that there is some concern of piracy / theft when sailing between Trinidad and Grenada or near the Venezuela coast in that region. I believe that air and sea travel has been suspended on the border of Trinidad and Venezuela based on the UK.gov website.. 

-James
On Mar 23, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:

Hi James, I left for the second year my Amel Sharki from Peake Shipyard in Chaguaramas Bay Trinidad.
The shipyard works like a Swiss watch and all the staff is very helpful.
The prices compared to the various marinas on the islands are much lower and the service it's great.
They have a shipchandler inside and various technicians capable of performing any kind of work.
In addition, Trinidad is practically at the lower end of the hurricane belt and is an event that occurred 3 or 4 times in a century.
In this moment there are 4 Amel in the yard.
Write an email to Daniella, the person responsible for the reservations and get a quote for your boat.
The address is: reservations@...

If you want more info I am at your disposal.
Good luck.
Giorgio Ardrizzi
Saudade III - Sharki #1


Il Sab 23 Mar 2019, 21:19 James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie=yahoo.com@groups.io> ha scritto:
I'd like to ask the forum for recommendations on safe and affordable locations for storing our boat for 3 - 4 months.  
Martinique is a great option, but there are perhaps better locations for getting work manual labor type jobs done at more affordable rates.  
Grenada seems to be historically a popular place, but I wonder about the current situation with more instability in nearby Venezuela.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated!

Best,
James Cromie
SV Soteria #347
Culebra





--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

Genoa sheet cars removal

smiles bernard
 

Hi there

My Genoa car pin lifting wheel broke yesterday so the removal of the sheet cars has now become a must do rather than a
‘nice to do’ service job

Some people have suggested to undo the fwd stanchion base and push it aside

Just to confirm - my stanchion base is bolted through the toe rail and has metal cheeks each side of that toe rail so pushing it amid ships is not an option

Those who have had success with this - did you push the stanchion fwd? Does this gain enough clearance?
It looks like it would be hard to push the stanchion fwd but perhaps it’s just a brute force thing and hope it goes back afterwards?


Many thanks in advance

Miles

Maramu 162


I’ve looked again at the stanchion based


Sent from my iPhone

PITU

Maria Geiger
 

After 9 years of sailing around the world with our beautiful SM PITU we decided to start new adventures in our Homeland Switzerland.
PITU has been for us a great boat and we gave her all the maintenance she needed.
Ivan Russell Smith is now the new owner of PITU. He is from Oregon and will start sailing form Tahiti.
Please accept Ivan as a member of Amel Yacht Owners  and as a new owner of PITU.

We will like also to thank all the members of this group that for so many years helped us with good advices and inputs.

Amel will stay for ever in our life and specially PITU.

Maria and Willy Geiger
SY PITU
www.pitugolf-pitu.com
Now in Tahiti

Re: Amel SM 2000 in the UK

Scott Brown
 

Hi Mark & Nicky,

I’m in a similar position, based in the UK and interested in purchasing an Amel, not sure of the exact model yet but likely a SM.

I’m almost 100% sure that there are no SM's here in the UK. 

There are a couple of Maramu’s for sale in London and here in Scotland there is one Amel, a Maramu called Clova based at Ardfern marina. Clova is available for charter through Argyll Yachts.

You’ll be totally amazed when you finally get on board an Amel. They are built like tanks :o)

Your best bet would be a wee trip to the South of France where there are lots of Amel’s on the market and you can see and compare the range. I was initially looking at a Maramu or Santorin but when you get on board a SM, the extra space really impressed me!

Good luck with your search.

Best wishes,

Scott



On 29 Mar 2019, at 08:29, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:

I have been lurking on this site for a few weeks now because I am almost sure that my wife and I want to buy a Super Maramu 2000. 

I say almost sure because we haven’t actually seen one yet in the flesh. I have watched and re watched many boat tours on YouTube but we would really like to see one for real before we commit to searching for one.

If any SM 2000 owner is in the UK would you mind if we came and had a look? We would be very grateful. Many thanks in advance. 

Mark & Nicky