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Re: Genoa sheet cars removal

smiles bernard
 

Thanks so much for he really useful responses 
Tom - did you just unbolt the single stanchion at the fwd end of the Genoa track ? And managed to move it first forward then outboard once the lower side flanges were clear of the toe rail?
if so I’ll try this first and will try to replace the cars completely  🤞
I will anyhow also fix my current cars as I need them now and good to have them in working order too. 

Gerhard - it sounds like you just used a ‘push fit’ idea. So the Center hole on the new wheel was a tight fit to the 10mm pin. Then tap with a small hammer into place?

I might try this or ask for a slight shoulder on the pin - as per my sketch. So the lower half of the 10mm is just very slightly thinner than the top half. Say 9.5mm OD.
Combined with a stainless washer/wheel with a 
Center whole of the same diameter (9.5mm) of the smaller section of the pin

the wheel would ‘push fit ‘ onto the lower
9.5mm pin section and be prevented from raising higher by the 10mm shoulder 

the spring would sit above the wheel/washer as always. 

It might just work!?

many thanks to all for the ideas and help on this 👍

miles



Re: Amel SM 2000 in the UK

Scott Brown
 

Hi Dean,

I’m based in Aberdeen, so not so very far from Ardrossan :o)

I’m looking at buying an Amel and would love to pick your brain over a beer or two when you arrive back in Scotland for the winter!

Best wishes,

Scott



On 29 Mar 2019, at 22:04, SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:

Mark and Nicky,
Two years ago I was in a similar situation, except I was in Australia.  I organised to see a range of boats with the Amel specialist broker Michel Charpentier. I flew to France and spent a week looking at Amels. Michel was a great help, and the visit cemented our thinking about which brand of boat to buy.

We bought an Amel 54 in Italy later that year, with the help of Michel and surveyor Olivier Beaute. We are really delighted with the boat.

I really recommend you get over to France and look at a number of boats. 

For what it’s worth, we’ll be wintering Stella at the end of this summer in Ardrossan, but won’t be there till September. If your still “lurking”, then you’re welcome to take a peek 😎

cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154



Re: Anchor Chain

James Alton
 

There are some concerns about hydrogen embrittlement which can weaken the chain when regalvanizing. This is more of a concern with the higher strength chains such as the grade 70. While I used to think that the primary risk was from the heat removing the temper this issue is primarily related to the acid etching process. Media/sandblasting is a safer way to prepare the chain than using the acid though apparently at least some acid etching is usually done to help prepare the surface. Practical Sailor did some regalavanizing testing not too long ago where they loaded samples of chain to failure before and after regalvanizing. The results were interesting with essentially no difference in strength before and after even with grade 70 chain so apparently if done correctly this might be an option. I have decided to go with hi tensile grade 70 chain which I have heard can not be safely regalvanized which is what initiated my recent research and discussion with an engineering friend. If there is any doubt I will just replace my chain when the time comes. It is encouraging that others have been happy with the regalvanizing results

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220

On Mar 29, 2019, at 4:36 PM, amel46met <onboardaphrodite@...> wrote:

Thanks for the heads up on re-galvanizing the anchor chain I was concerned it might weaken it thanks Tom Deasy Amel Maramu number 125 1983



Re: Anchor Chain correction

eric freedman
 

I took my chain to a plant that does Hot dip Galvanizing.
It was a very large plant.
In fact they completed the galvanizing all the components of a bridge that crosses the Hudson River.
They charged me $300-.
I had to cut off about a meter of chain at the end as it was badly rusted That was 3 years ago and the chain still looks great.
Fair Winds,
Eric 
sm376 Kimberlite

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 12:34 PM, amel46met wrote:

Hello amel group on the subject of new anchor chain what do you think about re-galvanizing the anchor chain thanks Tom Amel Maramu #125



Re: Anchor Chain

eric freedman
 

I took my chain to a plant that does Hot dip Galvanizing.
It was a very large plant.
In fact they completed the galvanizing all the components that cross the Hudson River.
They charged me $300-.
I had to curt off about a meter of chain at the end as it was adly ruster. That was 3 years ago and the chain still looks great.
Fair Winds,
Eric 
sm376 Kimberlite

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 12:34 PM, amel46met wrote:

Hello amel group on the subject of new anchor chain what do you think about re-galvanizing the anchor chain thanks Tom Amel Maramu #125



Re: Amel SM 2000 in the UK

Dean Gillies
 

Mark and Nicky,
Two years ago I was in a similar situation, except I was in Australia.  I organised to see a range of boats with the Amel specialist broker Michel Charpentier. I flew to France and spent a week looking at Amels. Michel was a great help, and the visit cemented our thinking about which brand of boat to buy.

We bought an Amel 54 in Italy later that year, with the help of Michel and surveyor Olivier Beaute. We are really delighted with the boat.

I really recommend you get over to France and look at a number of boats. 

For what it’s worth, we’ll be wintering Stella at the end of this summer in Ardrossan, but won’t be there till September. If your still “lurking”, then you’re welcome to take a peek 😎

cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154


Re: Anchor Chain

amel46met
 

Thanks for the heads up on re-galvanizing the anchor chain I was concerned it might weaken it thanks Tom Deasy Amel Maramu number 125 1983


Scientific Study on Martinique and the impact of Hurricanes

 

I found a scientific study on the Risks of Hurricanes in Martinique. I was surprised and the detail and the conclusions. I cannot attest to the accuracy, but most of it seems logical.

I uploaded it to the files section in a folder named Hurricane and Cyclone Information. You should be able to get it by following this link: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/files/Hurricane%20and%20Cyclone%20Information/Hurricane%20Risks%20Martinique%20-%20ENG.pdf
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Genoa sheet cars removal

amel46met
 

Hi Miles I have had my railings off twice unscrew the through bolts at the base of the stanchion forward end of track , lift up and outboard . my old Maramu did not have adjustable sheet cars I put new ones on , turning blocks and cleats very easy job Tom Deasy Amel Maramu number 125-1983

On Mar 29, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Miles,
on the SM there is a one sided base so it is easy to push it inwards once the screws are out.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
On 29 March 2019 at 23:39 "smiles bernard via Groups.Io" <smilesbernard=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:



Hi there
My Genoa car pin lifting wheel broke yesterday so the removal of the sheet cars has now become a must do rather than a
‘nice to do’ service job

Some people have suggested to undo the fwd stanchion base and push it aside

Just to confirm - my stanchion base is bolted through the toe rail and has metal cheeks each side of that toe rail so pushing it amid ships is not an option

Those who have had success with this - did you push the stanchion fwd? Does this gain enough clearance?
It looks like it would be hard to push the stanchion fwd but perhaps it’s just a brute force thing and hope it goes back afterwards?


Many thanks in advance

Miles

Maramu 162


I’ve looked again at the stanchion based


Sent from my iPhone




Re: Anchor Chain

Giorgio Ardrizzi
 

Hi Tom, I have a 10 mm chain from 1990 and since 1992 I live 8 months a year on board, almost always anchoring. In 1998 I had the chain sandblasted and galvanized in Buenos Aires and to this day it is still in good condition. Be careful because it must be a company that specializes in the galvanization of moving parts because the risk is that the links of the chain stick together and the zinc comes off when you try to separate them. This galvanization was much better than the original one.
Giorgio Ardrizzi (Saudade III - Sharki #1)


Il Ven 29 Mar 2019, 17:34 amel46met <onboardaphrodite@...> ha scritto:
Hello amel group on the subject of new anchor chain what do you think about re-galvanizing the anchor chain thanks Tom Amel Maramu #125




Re: Genoa sheet cars removal

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Miles,
on the SM there is a one sided base so it is easy to push it inwards once the screws are out.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On 29 March 2019 at 23:39 "smiles bernard via Groups.Io" <smilesbernard=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:



Hi there
My Genoa car pin lifting wheel broke yesterday so the removal of the sheet cars has now become a must do rather than a
‘nice to do’ service job

Some people have suggested to undo the fwd stanchion base and push it aside

Just to confirm - my stanchion base is bolted through the toe rail and has metal cheeks each side of that toe rail so pushing it amid ships is not an option

Those who have had success with this - did you push the stanchion fwd? Does this gain enough clearance?
It looks like it would be hard to push the stanchion fwd but perhaps it’s just a brute force thing and hope it goes back afterwards?


Many thanks in advance

Miles

Maramu 162


I’ve looked again at the stanchion based


Sent from my iPhone



Re: Anchor Chain

 

Regalvanizing works well, if you haven't waited too long. We regalvanized our chain, or bought new chain every 4 years of mostly continuous service. Finding a place to properly do regalvanizing is getting to be difficult.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:34 AM amel46met <onboardaphrodite@...> wrote:
Hello amel group on the subject of new anchor chain what do you think about re-galvanizing the anchor chain thanks Tom Amel Maramu #125




Re: Amel SM 2000 in the UK

Keith Carter <keithcarter88@...>
 

Hi Mark and Nicky

My SM 2000 is also an Easyjet flight away in Kos.  She is for sale owing to an injury (otherwise I’d be sailing her now!) and on the hard - so you could see the super-safe underwater configuration too. I was once saved from a ‘cruiser-racer’ which lost its unsupported rudder mid Atlantic and so can attest to the wisdom of the skeg, and in 5 years sailing Guma never experienced anything wrapping around the prop, sited in a great protected place and furnished with a spurs rope-cutter. 
Yep, like everyone else on this site I have drunk the Kool-Aid - but it’s all true! Amels are great, and the SM2000 is probably the best they ever made - before Henri's influence dwindled. 

Kind regards

Keith (SM2000 261 GUMA)


Re: Genoa sheet cars removal

Gerhard Mueller
 

It is very easy to get the pin out once the wheel is broken.
When you got a new wheel press the pin down into the some smaller whole of the new wheel.


--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


Anchor Chain

amel46met
 

Hello amel group on the subject of new anchor chain what do you think about re-galvanizing the anchor chain thanks Tom Amel Maramu #125


Re: Re :[AmelYachtOwners] Genoa sheet cars removal

Gerhard Mueller
 

Miles

My solution was to get fabricated new pin wheels when I was in Tunisia.
I have paid only a small amount for the new ones make of bronze.


--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


Re: Re :[AmelYachtOwners] Genoa sheet cars removal

smiles bernard
 

Thanks for this Christian

I have two problems I think!

One is the pin wheel 

10mm pin OD as you say - picture attached

So I’d like to fix that 

image1.jpeg

Could you kindly explain again your solution?

I’m not clear about the 2mm gap you mention and how this works. 

I assume I can get a metal disc cut for a new wheel but I’m unsure how to reattach it to the pin whilst inside the Genoa car. 

Many thanks for any further info you could provide !


The other problem is the actual car itself - the top metal section is wearing thin so I’d like to replace soon too but I will have to remove the car for this so I’m still trying to work out if I can avoid cutting a small end section of the T track ‘T’ profile off. 
Others have mentioned that the stanchions can be moved but I still don’t quite see how as mine are through bolted with no means to move them to port/starboard direction. If others who have done this could advise I would be most grateful. 

Many thanks in advance

Miles
Maramu 162
Martenique 


On 29 Mar 2019, at 08:48, christian alby via Groups.Io <calbyy@...> wrote:

Hi there Miles,
Had 2 alm alloy wheels shattered (genoa & jibsheet travellers) already, & given the difficul task of removing the travellers, had 2 wheels cut off at original wheel dimensions,
25 mm OD - 5 MM Thk - 10 mm dia center hole
 then sliced one sector with 2 mm gap to allow the wheel to be inserted back in traveller, under spring.
Works fine until now (fitted since June 2018) & 4 spares ready to cover further failures.
Fair winds

Christian alby - Desirade VIII Maramu 116 - now in Canet en Roussillon


Le ven., mars 29, 2019 à 11:39, smiles bernard via Groups.Io
<smilesbernard@...> a écrit :

Hi there
> My Genoa car pin lifting wheel broke yesterday so the removal of the sheet cars has now become a must do rather than a
> ‘nice to do’ service job
>
> Some people have suggested to undo the fwd stanchion base and push it aside
>
> Just to confirm - my stanchion base is bolted through the toe rail and has metal cheeks each side of that toe rail so pushing it amid ships is not an option
>
> Those who have had success with this - did you push the stanchion fwd? Does this gain enough clearance?
> It looks like it would be hard to push the stanchion fwd but perhaps it’s just a brute force thing and hope it goes back afterwards?
>
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> Miles
>
> Maramu 162
>
>
> I’ve looked again at the stanchion based
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone




Re: Amel SM 2000 in the UK

Ian Park
 

Our Santorin is based in North Wales. SM’s little sister. Leaving for Scotland 10th May
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: PITU

 

Thanks Maria. Hi to Willy. 

Please tell Mr. Smith to go to https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main to make application.

Good luck to you and Willy.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 4:24 AM Maria Geiger via Groups.Io <pitugolf=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
After 9 years of sailing around the world with our beautiful SM PITU we decided to start new adventures in our Homeland Switzerland.
PITU has been for us a great boat and we gave her all the maintenance she needed.
Ivan Russell Smith is now the new owner of PITU. He is from Oregon and will start sailing form Tahiti.
Please accept Ivan as a member of Amel Yacht Owners  and as a new owner of PITU.

We will like also to thank all the members of this group that for so many years helped us with good advices and inputs.

Amel will stay for ever in our life and specially PITU.

Maria and Willy Geiger
SY PITU
www.pitugolf-pitu.com
Now in Tahiti


Re: Cleaning Santorin Diesel tank #Wiki

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Herbert,
I'd highly recommend the dry storage facilities at Marina San Carlos (called Marine Seca - "dry Marina"). They have steel casings between every boat to prevent a domino effect disaster. It's a family run business that's well respected throughout the boating community. Near to Guaymus for flying in/out. It's $4.08/ft per month, plus a haul charge - see the website.

Regarding your tank, I think you may be able to snake a tube or hose down the fill and under the internal baffles to the low point, although I have not done that. Maybe you could try with a "fish wire" first - you should be able to hear/feel it near the outlet fitting if you're successful - then switch to a tube.  Also, I haven't opened my tank but I think there is just one baffle in the middle - try tapping the side of the tank and you should be able to hear where the baffle is. If you've got the tank run down near empty you could also just disconnect the outlet line, drain the last bit of fuel, then remove the valve itself and swab the deep end of the tank out through that hole.

Good luck with it,
Craig, SN68 Sangaris