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Re: Fuel polishing

karkauai
 

Hi Eric,
Yes, I use Howes and Biobor Jr.  I didn’t think Howes did anything to prevent or kill microorganisms.  I haven’t been able to confirm any increase in fuel efficiency with Howes, but I do think my exhaust ”mustache” on the port hull isn’t quite as bad as it used to be.  What I’ve been doing seems to be working well, but if I start finding dirty fuel when I get to the Pacific, I may add a system like you have on Kimberlite.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: Anchor Chain Size and Length

Theo s/v Paloma
 

Thank you!

I hope the Ultra works as good as it looks. I wasn't looking for a SS anchor but Amel told me that anchors with bars wouldn't fit the A50. So, we'll see...

I've used Manson Supreme and Rocna on previous boats and I was very pleased by them.


Re: Dominican Republic

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Back in Feb 2016, I sailed from Turks & Caicos and also stayed in the Puerto Bahia Marina in Samana Bay.
I had no problem.
I read that there is a government law that when you check in a Marina, only 2 officials are allowed to board your boat.
Only 2 did, they did not search the boat, was more to seat down and fill up the paperworks. One of the official was amused by a stuff monkey I had.
The “Commandante” made his speech that he accepts donations, etc. I said thanks and didn’t give anything.
Several weeks later when I checked out, 3 (instead of the 2 allowed came) but no issue either.
I heard from many other sailors that did not check in a marina their horror stories… so I highly recommend checking in a Marina…
Work done by the local at first was good (cleaning the stainless), but as they did more work the prices increased and the quality decreased…
I remember the last job was an offer to clean the water line, I don’t remember the amount they ask, but it was insane and I said I would do it on other boats being paid for less.
Sincerely, Alexandre
Formerly SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



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On Fri, 4/12/19, Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io <webercardio=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dominican Republic
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Date: Friday, April 12, 2019, 10:54 AM

Hi to
the group,I stayed 3 weeks in the Puerto Bahia
Samana Bay. The marina has all you need for Immigration. No
inspection on board, very safe, clean and secured marina in
a resort,so I could leave the boat there for 2 weeks and fly
to US. Nice restaurant at the resort.Still another world to
the rest of DR.Www.puertobahiasamana.com . Thay
have fuel and water. The marina is not on my
C-map,But you will find it on the DR
www.freecruisingguides.com Luperon is a safe
bay, but immigration and all the officials are another stuff
- but also not a big problem.you will find moorings for 2$
and helpful people, food for 3 $.Have save
trip Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162
Bahamas Georgetown heading north


Re: Dominican Republic

Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
 

Hi to the group,
I stayed 3 weeks in the Puerto Bahia Samana Bay. The marina has all you need for Immigration. No inspection on board, very safe, clean and secured marina in a resort,so I could leave the boat there for 2 weeks and fly to US. Nice restaurant at the resort.Still another world to the rest of DR.
Www.puertobahiasamana.com . Thay have fuel and water. The marina is not on my C-map,
But you will find it on the DR www.freecruisingguides.com 
Luperon is a safe bay, but immigration and all the officials are another stuff - but also not a big problem.you will find moorings for 2$ and helpful people, food for 3 $.
Have save trip 
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162 Bahamas Georgetown heading north





Re: Fuel polishing

Nick Newington
 

Hi Kent,
It looks like the general consensus is that the Racor system fitted is good and that I am indeed seeing gremlins that do not exist.
Like you pvc pipe idea. Will do that.
I am launching in two weeks.
Nick
Amelia 54-019 La Palma

On 12 Apr 2019, at 02:14, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Nick,
Whenever Kristy has been sitting for a while, I put a 6 foot 1/2 inch PVC pipe down to the bottom of the tank and pump a gallon into a clear container. I let it sit for an hour or so, and if there’s any water or sludge, it will sink to the bottom and be clearly visible.
I use BioborJr every time I buy fuel.
So far after an initial professional cleaning 10 years ago, I’ve had only clear fuel. I didn’t change the Racors for the first 4 years and never had any water or sludge in them. Since then I change them once a year and they always look new.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
karkauai@yahoo.com
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 10, 2019, at 2:46 AM, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Erik,
I am not on the boat now. From memory the fuel exits the bottom of the tank directly to the Racors but There is no valve on a lower sump.
I could drain off the Racor filter very easily. I suspect though that the pick up is just off the bottom of the tank. So the sludge will remain between the fuel pick up and the very bottom of the tank.
There may not be any sludge. Maybe I am seeing gremlins where there are none!
Nick
Amelia AML 54 -019 La Palma
On 10 Apr 2019, at 07:08, eric freedman <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:

Hi Nick,
On Kimberlite the tank drains from the bottom. Is it different on the 54?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376


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Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel polishing

Thanks for the feedback. So the general consensus is that additional
polishing is not required as the Racor primary filter plus engine filter is
fine. So long as one takes the usual precautions. In addition whilst
motoring or running the generator some fuel polishing happens anyway.

This is nice to read.

I only raise this because the newer Amels have common rail turbo charged
engines, where fuel cleanliness is extra important. In addition we may well
be buying fuel with 20% biodiesel, and low sulphur. Biodiesel is more prone
to degrading and bacterial growth.
Amelia has been ashore for 5 months with brim full tank.
It is a shame there is no drain valve to remove a few litres off the bottom
of the tank.

Nick
Amelia AML 54-019 currently located ashore in La Palma, Canary Island.
Launching in a couple of weeks and planning to sail to Greece this spring.












Re: Fuel polishing

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Kent,
Did you ever try Howes fuel treatment instead of Biobor?
https://petroleumservicecompany.com/howes-meaner-power-kleaner-12-32-ounce-case/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx8LAkdHJ4QIViYrICh1MjQOZEAQYASABEgJr8fD_BwE.

This product is guaranteed to give you 10% better fuel economy, will not allow the diesel to gel, and absorbs the water so it will be burned with the fuel, in addition to dissolving the bacteria in the tank. It is used by large fuel depots to store fuel.

I thanks to PenAzen) had Amel install a 2 way valve in the fuel fill, The fuel goes to a pump, then through a racor truck fuel filter The filter itself is about 12 inches high and 6 inches in diameter. It then goes into the tank.
I have never had any fuel problems and the fuel tank is spotless. I use a 2 micron fuel filter in the dual racor fuel filter before it goes into the engine fuel filters. I believe the problem with using Biobor is that it kills the bacteria and the dead bacteria accumulates and sits on the bottom of the tank. Most boats have a dip tube for the fuel so sludge on the tank bottom is normally no problem. Our tanks draw the fuel from the bottom so any crud in the tank goes directly to the Racor filters. I have close to 7000 hours on my yanmar with no problems so far, Fingers crossed.

I would suggest you try it.
You can get it at most auto supply stores. I bottle is good for 350 gallons.
If you use it, the first time, I would double the recommended quantity.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

-=-=-=-=-=-=-


Re: Updated Event: Amel Yacht Owners Rally - Martinique April 7 - April 13 - Sunday, 7 April 2019 #cal-invite

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Yes, agreed. We are so pleased to have been able to make it.

What a wonderful event and opportunity to meet Bill and so many other good folk we have been communicating with on the forum over the past 7 years from Australia.

In addition Island Pearl II won the lucky dip draw for one of Bill's extremely comprehensive yacht school Manuals last night.

What an excellent publication with such clear instructions and advice on every single aspect of maintaining and improving an Amel. Found it hard to put it down after dinner last night when I discovered it even covered so clearly a number of NMEA information accrdd tips we just happen to be grabling with right now in terms of linkage with OpenCPN.

Well done Bill and thank you all.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332
Martinique.


On Thu, 11 Apr. 2019, 15:47 Joe Nance, <cloudstreet100@...> wrote:
I would just like to say what a wonderful time Tracie & I had at last
night's Amel Rally/Mango Bay dinner!

Many thanks to Bill, Mango Bay & all of the sponsors who put on an
incredible feast & handed out some wonderful gifts.  I am only sorry
that I did not get to meet everyone there.

Tracie & I would like to make a trip to the L'Habitation Clement
grounds in the next few days if any of you are interested in sharing a
car with us.

I think is was a huge success & would think this is the truly the
'First' of many Amel Rally gatherings.  And it aint over yet!

Joe

On 3/19/19, main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar
<main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> wrote:
> Updated "Amel Yacht Owners Rally - Martinique April 7 - April 13" Event
>
> When:  Sunday, 7 April 2019 through Saturday, 13 April 2019
>
>
> Where: Martinique du Marin
>
>
> Organizer: brouse@... +1(832) 380-4970
>
> Description: *Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally Rendezvous Location: *
> *Martinique*
>
> (
> https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qBP1UDLG0TU/XI-qVOtMndI/AAAAAAAAYSU/i-1o5hB8va0mkw0UfVzSE_y3zRbSA8JDQCLcBGAs/s1600/Marina%2BMarin%2Bfd%2Bblanc%2BRVB.jpg
> ) *7-13 April du Marin *
> *la Marina du Marin* is offering a berth package at 170€ per boat for 6
> days:
>    Berth from Sunday 7th April PM to Friday 12th April PM
>    Electricity included
>    Wifi 40Go (1 ticket of 40Go per boat)
>    Water is not included. The price water is 9€ per cubic meter.
>    A welcome gift from the marina
> To take advantage of this offer, you must reserve with the marina before 22
> March. Email: contact@... Phone: +596 596 74 83 83
> *Wednesday 10 April* - 1930 dinner at Mango Bay with a drawing for a haulout
> at Carenantilies Yard. Dinner sponsored by Caraibe Marine, Wine or Beer by
> Caribbean Yacht Sales. There will also be drawings for several of the "Amel
> Books."
> *Saturday 13 April * - St. Anne anchorage pot luck lunch/dinner
> * *
> *Optional stops meet & greet:*
> *Heading south to Martinique:* BVI- Virgin Gorda Anchorage at 18 30.3190 N
> 064 22.3573 W Mar 31- Apr 2
> St, Martin Anchorage or Marina to be determined April 3-5
>
> *Heading south from Martinique for hurricane season:*
> *Bequia Admiralty Bay* Anchorage Apr 22-24
>     - Tuesday April 23rd - Welcome drinks at the Frangipani Hotel (time to
> be announced)
>
> Grenada Anchorage and Marina to be determined Apr 28-30
> Chaguaramas, Trinidad (Tentative) May 2-???
>
>
>  I will keep you posted and will add to the website (
> https://theamelschool.blogspot.com/p/amel-eastern-caribbean-rally-2019.html
> ) when I have confirmation.
>
>
>
>




Re: Fuel polishing

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Nick,
At the bottom of my fuel tank there is a valve that shuts off the fuel, it is connected to a rod on the shelf in my Mid-ships bunk that will turn off the fuel from outside the engine room if there is a problem in the engine room.
FYI, behind the valve on Kimberlite there is a mesh screen that is factory installed to keep large stuff from getting into the fuel line.
After my racor filter there are neoprene hoses that go to the genset and engine. If you wanted to put a valve in the line to polish your fuel this is where I would put the valve.
Fair Winds Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376



Hi Erik,
I am not on the boat now. From memory the fuel exits the bottom of the tank directly to the Racors but There is no valve on a lower sump.
I could drain off the Racor filter very easily. I suspect though that the pick up is just off the bottom of the tank. So the sludge will remain between the fuel pick up and the very bottom of the tank.
There may not be any sludge. Maybe I am seeing gremlins where there are none!
Nick
Amelia AML 54 -019 La Palma

On 10 Apr 2019, at 07:08, eric freedman <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:

Hi Nick,
On Kimberlite the tank drains from the bottom. Is it different on the 54?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376


-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io]
On Behalf Of ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:00 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel polishing

Thanks for the feedback. So the general consensus is that additional
polishing is not required as the Racor primary filter plus engine filter is
fine. So long as one takes the usual precautions. In addition whilst
motoring or running the generator some fuel polishing happens anyway.

This is nice to read.

I only raise this because the newer Amels have common rail turbo charged
engines, where fuel cleanliness is extra important. In addition we may well
be buying fuel with 20% biodiesel, and low sulphur. Biodiesel is more prone
to degrading and bacterial growth.
Amelia has been ashore for 5 months with brim full tank.
It is a shame there is no drain valve to remove a few litres off the bottom
of the tank.

Nick
Amelia AML 54-019 currently located ashore in La Palma, Canary Island.
Launching in a couple of weeks and planning to sail to Greece this spring.






Re: Amel SM 2000 in the UK

karkauai
 

Hi Darren and Kelly,
Met y’all in ShelterBay a couple of years ago, and brought you a pkg in SanBlas. You kept an eye on Kristy while I was gone for several weeks. Sorry to hear Kelly’s having back problems.  I’ve got a bum back too, and raising the cockpit cover a few inches made a huge difference getting in and out.
I’m back in Maryland for the Summer, or you’d certainly be welcome to visit Kristy.
Best of luck with the back and finding your boat.  My back is infinitely better since I started doing some gentle yoga.

Kent

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 10, 2019, at 9:45 AM, Darren And Kel <dazmol13@...> wrote:

Hi All, 

we are also in a situation wanting to check out a Amel  ,  We had to sell our last center cockpit boat due to my wifes back issues, and would love a opportunity for her to scramble around a SM and especialy try climing in and out of the cockpit, where she had the biggest problem on our last smaller boat. 

We are in in the San Blas, Panama at the moment. heading to San Andreas in a couple of weeks on our Nautitech. 
After sailing monos most of our sailing lifes we switched over to a cat but would really like to go back to a mono if we can find the right one so the cat is on the market (or possible part exchange for a Amel ;). 

So, if is anyone passing through who would let us take a look it would be really appreciated
Darren & Kelly


Re: Fuel polishing

karkauai
 

Hi Nick,
Whenever Kristy has been sitting for a while, I put a 6 foot 1/2 inch PVC pipe down to the bottom of the tank and pump a gallon into a clear container. I let it sit for an hour or so, and if there’s any water or sludge, it will sink to the bottom and be clearly visible.
I use BioborJr every time I buy fuel.
So far after an initial professional cleaning 10 years ago, I’ve had only clear fuel. I didn’t change the Racors for the first 4 years and never had any water or sludge in them. Since then I change them once a year and they always look new.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
karkauai@yahoo.com
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 10, 2019, at 2:46 AM, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Erik,
I am not on the boat now. From memory the fuel exits the bottom of the tank directly to the Racors but There is no valve on a lower sump.
I could drain off the Racor filter very easily. I suspect though that the pick up is just off the bottom of the tank. So the sludge will remain between the fuel pick up and the very bottom of the tank.
There may not be any sludge. Maybe I am seeing gremlins where there are none!
Nick
Amelia AML 54 -019 La Palma
On 10 Apr 2019, at 07:08, eric freedman <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:

Hi Nick,
On Kimberlite the tank drains from the bottom. Is it different on the 54?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376


-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io]
On Behalf Of ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:00 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel polishing

Thanks for the feedback. So the general consensus is that additional
polishing is not required as the Racor primary filter plus engine filter is
fine. So long as one takes the usual precautions. In addition whilst
motoring or running the generator some fuel polishing happens anyway.

This is nice to read.

I only raise this because the newer Amels have common rail turbo charged
engines, where fuel cleanliness is extra important. In addition we may well
be buying fuel with 20% biodiesel, and low sulphur. Biodiesel is more prone
to degrading and bacterial growth.
Amelia has been ashore for 5 months with brim full tank.
It is a shame there is no drain valve to remove a few litres off the bottom
of the tank.

Nick
Amelia AML 54-019 currently located ashore in La Palma, Canary Island.
Launching in a couple of weeks and planning to sail to Greece this spring.






Re: Anchor Chain Size and Length

Jose Venegas
 

Thank you guys,  I was mistaken, My current chain length is 60 m.  Clearly, 100m plus extra 30 of rope should be plenty.

Theo, congratulations on Paloma.  The Ultra anchor is beautiful.

Jose
Ipanema 


Re: Dominican Republic

Rainer Huthmacher <thelastoneever@...>
 

Hi Duane,
I had a very good time in La Bahia de Luperon in 2014. Officials were coming aboard but they were very friendly and professional. Compared to the rest of the Caribbean it’s rather cheap and you can buy fresh veggies which are locally grown and not imported from the US.
Also a good place to get Trojan Batteries at a very low price.
For me the DomRep was one of the best places in the Caribbean, but I do speak Spanish....
Fair winds
Rainer Huthmacher


On 10. Apr 2019, at 18:38, Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io <carlylelk@...> wrote:

My apologies if this sort of post is too off-topic.

We're preparing to leave the Bahamas for the Dominican Republic.  They have some pretty restrictive allowances for "boat stores" which we exceed by magnitudes (especially the wine and beer!).  The guide books note that they will "inspect" your vessel.  These are the same guide books that advise you to stock up.  

Can anyone advise me on what to expect from Customs in the DR?  I'm thinking of just sailing past it to Puerto Rico, but that's a longer sail than I prefer.

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Updated Event: Amel Yacht Owners Rally - Martinique April 7 - April 13 - Sunday, 7 April 2019 #cal-invite

Joe Nance
 

I would just like to say what a wonderful time Tracie & I had at last
night's Amel Rally/Mango Bay dinner!

Many thanks to Bill, Mango Bay & all of the sponsors who put on an
incredible feast & handed out some wonderful gifts. I am only sorry
that I did not get to meet everyone there.

Tracie & I would like to make a trip to the L'Habitation Clement
grounds in the next few days if any of you are interested in sharing a
car with us.

I think is was a huge success & would think this is the truly the
'First' of many Amel Rally gatherings. And it aint over yet!

Joe

On 3/19/19, main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar
<main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> wrote:
Updated "Amel Yacht Owners Rally - Martinique April 7 - April 13" Event

When: Sunday, 7 April 2019 through Saturday, 13 April 2019


Where: Martinique du Marin


Organizer: brouse@gmail.com +1(832) 380-4970

Description: *Amel Eastern Caribbean Rally Rendezvous Location: *
*Martinique*

(
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qBP1UDLG0TU/XI-qVOtMndI/AAAAAAAAYSU/i-1o5hB8va0mkw0UfVzSE_y3zRbSA8JDQCLcBGAs/s1600/Marina%2BMarin%2Bfd%2Bblanc%2BRVB.jpg
) *7-13 April du Marin *
*la Marina du Marin* is offering a berth package at 170€ per boat for 6
days:
Berth from Sunday 7th April PM to Friday 12th April PM
Electricity included
Wifi 40Go (1 ticket of 40Go per boat)
Water is not included. The price water is 9€ per cubic meter.
A welcome gift from the marina
To take advantage of this offer, you must reserve with the marina before 22
March. Email: contact@marina-martinique.fr Phone: +596 596 74 83 83
*Wednesday 10 April* - 1930 dinner at Mango Bay with a drawing for a haulout
at Carenantilies Yard. Dinner sponsored by Caraibe Marine, Wine or Beer by
Caribbean Yacht Sales. There will also be drawings for several of the "Amel
Books."
*Saturday 13 April * - St. Anne anchorage pot luck lunch/dinner
* *
*Optional stops meet & greet:*
*Heading south to Martinique:* BVI- Virgin Gorda Anchorage at 18 30.3190 N
064 22.3573 W Mar 31- Apr 2
St, Martin Anchorage or Marina to be determined April 3-5

*Heading south from Martinique for hurricane season:*
*Bequia Admiralty Bay* Anchorage Apr 22-24
- Tuesday April 23rd - Welcome drinks at the Frangipani Hotel (time to
be announced)

Grenada Anchorage and Marina to be determined Apr 28-30
Chaguaramas, Trinidad (Tentative) May 2-???


I will keep you posted and will add to the website (
https://theamelschool.blogspot.com/p/amel-eastern-caribbean-rally-2019.html
) when I have confirmation.




Re: The SM wearing out bearing vs the 55 Bearing.

 

The 55 also has a larger diameter shaft. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 10:32 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 

Dear Eric,

 

The prop shaft bushing for the AMEL 55 is not out of stainless steel. Except for the first AMEL 55 boats, the prop shaft bushings are different (the diameter is not the same) and the material is bronze or chromed.

 

In short, the new type of prop shaft bushing for the AMEL 55 will not fit the shaft of your Super Maramu.

 

Feel free to take contact with me for any further details.

 

With my kindest regards,

 

Maud TOUILLET

Service clientèle/Customer service

sav@...

Phone : +33 (0) 546 55 00 75


SM Chain Counter

Thomas Peacock
 

I am in the process of trying to fix our chain counter, which has not worked since we purchased the boat several years ago.
Troubleshooting thus far points to a probable short in the sensor up by the windlass.
I have purchased a nearly identical new sensor; the only difference is the old sensor is "normally closed", while the new sensor is "normally open".
Anyone have any thoughts on whether the different open/closed setting will make a difference?

Thanks as always to all on this invaluable forum.

Tom Peacock
SM #240 Aletes
St Augustine, Florida, soon to depart for the Cheseapeake


Re: Anchor Chain Size and Length

Theo s/v Paloma
 
Edited

On my A50, Amel is installing 100m of 10mm G4 chain. I plan to splice 30m of 8-plait rode at the end of it, for the deeper anchorages, or stronger blows. The factory recommended the 35kg Ultra anchor, but I will have the Ultra 45kg. I know it's on the heavier side, but I like to sleep well at night.

Theo.
s/v Paloma
2019 A50 #18, handover in 2 weeks


Re: Insurance update US East Coast & Bahamas- Pantaenius US

Craig Briggs
 

Thanks, Mark - I'll check with Novamar. Their website lists an office in Sarasota, Fl, too.
Craig


Re: Insurance update US East Coast & Bahamas- Pantaenius US

Mark Erdos
 

Craig,

 

I think the remarkable part of the Pantaenius requirements is the fact, in my opinion,  it would be impossible to meet the requirements anywhere in the Carib. When I first read these changes as a part of our policy, I inquired as to where in the Carib they felt I could meet the requirements and wondered if they had specific boat yards in mind when they wrote the specs. I never heard back from them regarding this. It would seem logical to me if they are to have such specific regulations in terms of meeting the policy requirements they would have at least a couple of places in mind where they had done some reconnaissance to help their members comply. But, I guess not.

 

We have heard good things about Geico, however they coverage geography is limited. Look into Novamar. Novamar uses Geico as an underwriter, along with other big names. They are A-rated. They have an easy to read policy, reasonable rates and none of the stupidity of Pantaenius.  Here is a broker who can help with a quote (or you can get one online):

 

Chris Boome Insurance Agency

LIC# 0A99058

751 Laurel Street #216

San Carlos, CA 94070

O: 650-517-3160  C: 650-464-0728

WWW.CHRISBOOME.COM

E-mail: chris@...

 

 

https://www.novamarinsurance.com/

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Craig Briggs via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 10:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance update US East Coast & Bahamas- Pantaenius US

 

Some recent posts discussed Pantaenius coverage for east US and Bahamas with respect to the hurricane season - here's an update (spoiler alert: no change).

We just received offers for renewing our Pantaenius policy as of April 30, 2019:
Option 1: $2,287 premium for $185K agreed value with $5K deductible, $500K Indemnity; boat North of 30.5°N (Florida) from July 15 to Nov 15;
Option 2: $5,192 for same coverage; boat North of 21.0° N (Includes Bahamas), If south of 30.5 between July 15 and Nov 15, that is, in Florida or the Bahamas, a Named Tropical Storm (NTS) deductible applies of $37,000 and you must comply with their NTS Plan of 1. being hauled with unitized cradle or hurricane pit with 5000 pound blocks etc.,or 2., stored inside a Cat 4 hurricane building or 3.between fixed concrete piers or 4. being moved out of the way of the NTS. No coverage if the NTS Plan is not followed.

Noteworthy is that Lighting damage now has a deductible of 5% of Hull Value if, under Option 1, in Florida from June 1 to July 14 or Nov 1 to 30, or, under Option 2, from June 1 to Nov 30.

Bottom line, if you want year around coverage for Florida and/or the Bahamas, Pantaenius USA's rates are breathtaking. I'm shopping and have found Geico (Boat US) offers a competitively priced product.

Cheers, Craig  SN68 SANGARIS, Delray Beach, FL


Re: Insurance update US East Coast & Bahamas- Pantaenius US

Ryan Meador
 

Given this topic is about ways to keep your boat further south, this is probably irrelevant, but I feel compelled to add it:  I had BoatUS coverage on my old boat and dropped it when they switched to Geico as the underwriter.  I keep my boat in the water year-round in Boston (when not cruising) and Geico requires the use of a bubbler to receive ice and freezing coverage, even if bubblers are not normal practice in your location (it's not in my marina).  I think there were a couple other caveats as well, so read the policy carefully.  For now, I'm still happy with my Pantaenius America coverage, but we'll see what happens when it renews.

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Southport, NC, USA


On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 10:15 AM Craig Briggs via Groups.Io <sangaris=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Some recent posts discussed Pantaenius coverage for east US and Bahamas with respect to the hurricane season - here's an update (spoiler alert: no change).

We just received offers for renewing our Pantaenius policy as of April 30, 2019:
Option 1: $2,287 premium for $185K agreed value with $5K deductible, $500K Indemnity; boat North of 30.5°N (Florida) from July 15 to Nov 15;
Option 2: $5,192 for same coverage; boat North of 21.0° N (Includes Bahamas), If south of 30.5 between July 15 and Nov 15, that is, in Florida or the Bahamas, a Named Tropical Storm (NTS) deductible applies of $37,000 and you must comply with their NTS Plan of 1. being hauled with unitized cradle or hurricane pit with 5000 pound blocks etc.,or 2., stored inside a Cat 4 hurricane building or 3.between fixed concrete piers or 4. being moved out of the way of the NTS. No coverage if the NTS Plan is not followed.

Noteworthy is that Lighting damage now has a deductible of 5% of Hull Value if, under Option 1, in Florida from June 1 to July 14 or Nov 1 to 30, or, under Option 2, from June 1 to Nov 30.

Bottom line, if you want year around coverage for Florida and/or the Bahamas, Pantaenius USA's rates are breathtaking. I'm shopping and have found Geico (Boat US) offers a competitively priced product.

Cheers, Craig  SN68 SANGARIS, Delray Beach, FL


Insurance update US East Coast & Bahamas- Pantaenius US

Craig Briggs
 

Some recent posts discussed Pantaenius coverage for east US and Bahamas with respect to the hurricane season - here's an update (spoiler alert: no change).

We just received offers for renewing our Pantaenius policy as of April 30, 2019:
Option 1: $2,287 premium for $185K agreed value with $5K deductible, $500K Indemnity; boat North of 30.5°N (Florida) from July 15 to Nov 15;
Option 2: $5,192 for same coverage; boat North of 21.0° N (Includes Bahamas), If south of 30.5 between July 15 and Nov 15, that is, in Florida or the Bahamas, a Named Tropical Storm (NTS) deductible applies of $37,000 and you must comply with their NTS Plan of 1. being hauled with unitized cradle or hurricane pit with 5000 pound blocks etc.,or 2., stored inside a Cat 4 hurricane building or 3.between fixed concrete piers or 4. being moved out of the way of the NTS. No coverage if the NTS Plan is not followed.

Noteworthy is that Lighting damage now has a deductible of 5% of Hull Value if, under Option 1, in Florida from June 1 to July 14 or Nov 1 to 30, or, under Option 2, from June 1 to Nov 30.

Bottom line, if you want year around coverage for Florida and/or the Bahamas, Pantaenius USA's rates are breathtaking. I'm shopping and have found Geico (Boat US) offers a competitively priced product.

Cheers, Craig  SN68 SANGARIS, Delray Beach, FL

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