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Re: [Amel] modifying stainless lifelines on 48' Maramu (#173)

bsarff@...
 

Thanks Eric. We have a three stair boarding ladder on the dock but it still requires my wife to straddle the life line ( difficult when wearing a skirt) and she would like a break in the life line if possible. As I mentioned, I'd like to modify the life line as long as it doesn't distroy the overall integrety of the rail.

Bob

-------------- Original message --------------
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net>
We have a ladder that came with our boat. It has 3 steps and hooks over the
rub rail.

It has a small standoff to keep it off the hull. Standing on the top rung
you can easily step over the life lines. We always tie it to a stanchion to
keep it from going over the side.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bsarff
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 12:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] modifying stainless lifelines on 48' Maramu

My wife and I are new owners of a 48' Maramu. We have the standard
stainless lifelines and my wife would like it modified so she can get
on and off easier. I'm concerned that we may weeken the life line and
the spiniker sheet traveler adjustment by modifying the line. Has
anyone made or seen this modification?

We love our Amel and currently live aboard in Seattle, Washington.

Bob & Joyce


Re: [Amel] modifying stainless lifelines on 48' Maramu

eric freedman
 

We have a ladder that came with our boat. It has 3 steps and hooks over the
rub rail.

It has a small standoff to keep it off the hull. Standing on the top rung
you can easily step over the life lines. We always tie it to a stanchion to
keep it from going over the side.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bsarff
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 12:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] modifying stainless lifelines on 48' Maramu



My wife and I are new owners of a 48' Maramu. We have the standard
stainless lifelines and my wife would like it modified so she can get
on and off easier. I'm concerned that we may weeken the life line and
the spiniker sheet traveler adjustment by modifying the line. Has
anyone made or seen this modification?

We love our Amel and currently live aboard in Seattle, Washington.

Bob & Joyce


modifying stainless lifelines on 48' Maramu

bsarff <bsarff@...>
 

My wife and I are new owners of a 48' Maramu. We have the standard
stainless lifelines and my wife would like it modified so she can get
on and off easier. I'm concerned that we may weeken the life line and
the spiniker sheet traveler adjustment by modifying the line. Has
anyone made or seen this modification?

We love our Amel and currently live aboard in Seattle, Washington.

Bob & Joyce


Re: [Amel] Brown rubbing strake damage

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

RE:

"WEill get photos of the application and send Joel a disc so he can post it for me and we'll try
to also in Jan. Will also post photo's of bent anchor repair. Murray Seidel SM 349 Sundance.
910-470-1225."

Sounds like a worthwhile improvement, can't wait to see your photos posted here.

Gary

SM #335 s/v Liahona


[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Ian & Judy:

Sorry to hear about your trials and tribulations related to the sonic speed. It is a neat system
when it works but I gather that the system is a bit of a mystery even to B & G. One time
when I queried the USA B & G tech support team they actually denied that B & G even had a
sonic speed system. I told them that not only did they make it but that it was on some 500
Amel boats.

Yes, my boat is still in Jolly Harbor. We left her after relaunch and a brief 10 days of sailing
during December to come home for Christmas. We are on the C dock (newly rebuilt concrete
docks). Drop me a note to AgCEagle at comcast dot net and lets see if we can link up.

All the best (to quote Joel),

Gary


Re: [Amel] Brown rubbing strake damage

Dr. Seidel <mseidel@...>
 

Regarding the rub strake, Sundance SM349 had damage from 2 hurricaines. We re[paired glass of strake, then primed it and then painted with bright blue AWL Grip. Only the strake was painted. We used masking tape. In the deep groove on the strake we cut logitudinal strips of STARBOARD, a dense polyethylene, left it proud by at least 3/8 inches, routed the edges which is important. We filled the recess from the bow back to the stern including the wider recess for the "supermaramu" name in the recess.We used SS screws, countersunk. The Starboard is indestructible and protects the strake because it acts as a slick, slippery rub rail. I spent less than 1000 dollars.One thousand dollars! Not only that, but with a new bright red boot top, the boat looks vastly better. Should have been done that way to start. If the white starboard is gouged, simply sand it out with fine paper. Now have red-white and blue on side. Hull remains white. WEill get photos of the application and send Joel a disc so he can post it for me and we'll try to also in Jan. Will also post photo's of bent anchor repair. Murray Seidel SM 349 Sundance. 910-470-1225.

----- Original Message -----
From: sailw32@aol.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Brown rubbing strake damage


If you can see the bare glass than it can't be polished out. Last spring I
had to do major glass repair to my rub rail and than painted the entire rail.It
sounds as though you are probably going to have to color match the gel coat
and repair the dings. I often wonder why Amel did'nt put a proper rub rail on
these boats. Pat


In a message dated 12/18/2008 8:05:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bootlegger@mailasail.com writes:

I have just received some rubbing strake damage on my otherwise well
maintained
and preserved SM 2000; specifically a small section where the brown
surface
coating has chipped off completely revealing the bare fibre glass
moulding
as well as long abrasions, some of which penetrate the outer brown
coating.

Can anyone please advise me a) can the surface covering be abrasions be
polished out?
b) how best to repair the chipped off area to achieve the same brown
finish?
c) is there a specific color reference for this brown? Together with any

other advice. Such would be greatly appreciated.

Frank Newton
Bootlegger of Mann
# 321



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Re: Leaking raw water supply to generator

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

A Follow-up to my prior posting:

The Onan genset in BeBe #387 developed a leak near a bend in the
stainless steel pipe in a location behind the motor (port side of the
engine) before the pipe runs under the engine. I used a 4' piece of
3/4" water hose which I had sliced down one side of the length. I
mixed some 2-part epoxy and placed a good amount of epoxy in the hose
and then clamped the hose over the pipe. I have ordered a replacement
pipe from Onan...part number 130-5448-01.

BTW, water appeared to be leaking from the stainless steel pipe under
the engine, but was in fact running down the pipe and dripping under
the engine. It was very difficult to locate the leak. I eventually
located the leak by drying everything, wrapping the pipe with a paper
towel, starting the genset and viola, there it was!

I assume Onan routed the stainless steel pipe the way they did because
their goal was to have all of the water and electrical connections
exit the generator at about the same place (most other gensets do this
as well). Another part of the same reasoning is that Onan offers an
optional enclosure for the genset...you would have to have exit holes
punched in the enclosure if you did not do it the way Onan has routed
things.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "svbebe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Jeff,

We have #387 and had the same problem...it is the Raw Water stainless
feed pipe. The part
number is 130-5448-01. I patched mine for the time being and have
ordered the pipe.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Auckland, NZ for cyclone season

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "rapp.jeffrey"
<rapp.jeffrey@> wrote:

Hi
I own "Antares" SM2K378. Recently, I have been occupied with a
maddening leak from somewhere in the cooling water supply to the
generator (an Onan 7KW). It appeared to be coming from under the
generator, alongside a stainless steel pipe that transits under the
generator, but I couldn't tell for sure, because I could not see under
the generator.I spent hours tightening hose clamps and looking for
phantom leaks. It appears that Amel had custom installed this pipe for
aesthetic purposes, in order to reduce the clutter of hoses in front
of the generator.
The sea water was routed in a hose from the water closet, along the
engine room bulkhead, down under the drip pan to the aft side of the
generator, then attaches to the custom stainless pipe, which transits
along the back of the generator (inside the cover, where it's hard to
get to), dips down under the generator, then appears in the front,
where it joins to the black rubber elbow that attaches to the water
pump. Whew!
My first inclination was to simply cut the original hose and attach it
to the rubber elbow direct with a hose joint, eliminating the pipe.
However, I must have some French in me, because I decided to fix it.
To do so, it was necessary to remove the engine mount bolts, lift the
generator a couple of inches, and remove the pipe, which was repaired,
then protected with a rubber hose to eliminate the chafe against the
drip pan which caused the original leak.
I was smart enough, however, to obtain a double barbed hose union,
which is difficult to find in Cartagena in the proper size. If this
happens again, the stainless pipe is gone.
Happy holidays
Jeff


Re: {Disarmed} [Amel] RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Dear Anne and John, Thanks for that. All is now working, we just have to do battle with Lymington to try to get back some of the money we spent so unnecessarily after their wrong diagnosis.I'm not holding my breath....
Happy New Year to you,
Pen Azen, SM302, English Harbour.

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: annejohn@melita.net.mt
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:47:29 +0100
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} [Amel] RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed

Hello Ian and Judy,
There used to be an excellent technician at B&G but he left circa 2003 to set up on his own in Antigua or so we were told.

Happy New Year, Anne and John SM319
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian & Judy Jenkins
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:34 PM
Subject: {Disarmed} [Amel] RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed



Hi Gary,
A long , expensive, unfinished saga...
1. In May our transducers were checked in Trinidad. Told they were fine and the problem was the control box.
2. Took the box back to UK. B&G HQ sais it was fine and that it was the transducers! Said ( apparently this is so) that actually you can't be certain by checking the transducers.
3. Bought replacement transducers....the wrong ones. The Amel ones are about 4" long and straight. The ones shown in the B&G manual are sort of V shaped.
4. Bought the right ones from Pochon in Guadeloupe.
5. Came out in the Travellift in Guadeloupe. DON'T. Its in too narrow a slot and the guy who operates it...... 6" gouge on the boat. Only reassuring thing is the depth of the gelcoat.
6. Pochon very efficient. Old transducers came out very easily.
7. BUT...no change. Pochon then checks the box as obviously the transducers were not at fault. Replaces the card. Bingo, we have a log.
8. It looks to me as tho B&G HQ failed to spot the fault in the box.Now starts the battle to try to get them to contribute to the wholly unnecessary costs I have incurred, particularly as Pochon think the old card can be repaired.
We are now in Antigua but returning to Guadeloupe on 2 Jan. However we will be back in mid Jan for a longer stay. It would be great to meet up . Are you still based in Jolly Harbour? What are your movements?
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Re: {Disarmed} [Amel] rigging / autopilot 7000

John and Anne Hollamby <annejohn@...>
 

Hi Phil,
Autopilots and wind vanes have been discussed in the past. If anyone needs info the first port of call should be to put the key word or words in the search box on the web site to see whether there is any advice and then decide what more info is needed.

Happy New Year, Anne and John, SM317

----- Original Message -----
From: phil.berghmans
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 6:56 AM
Subject: {Disarmed} [Amel] rigging / autopilot 7000


hello all,

Can anyone give me the dimensions off the rigging specially the back
rigging?I want to order two insolaters to use the backrigging ass an
anteena for my SSB/email configuration.My Santorin 1994 is now in
Greece so i can't mesure it.Is it 6mm?

Can anyone give me some advice concerning the choice between autopilot
extra or spares or a windvane/pilot set.I plan to cross the atlantic
next year and do some bluewater cruising .Since one doesn't see many
windpilots on amels i was wandering how you manage the breakdown's
off the autopilots.I have the autohelm 7000 and found that the print
off the course computer allready has been changed.Which spare parts do
you take along or do you instal a second unit under the bed in the
back cabin?Or do you dubble everything as spare rotary drive,course
computer,fluxgate,...One aditional problem is that the 7000 is an old
system and doesn't have the same spares anymore as the 7001 and with
autohelm old models do not always communicate with new models?

Does anybody wants to share his experiance on this matter or do i have
to buy a total new system and take the old 7000 as spare along?

Thank you all for your help!Happy Newyear to all.

Phil from 2Miles ahead
Santorin 101






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Re: {Disarmed} [Amel] RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed

John and Anne Hollamby <annejohn@...>
 

Hello Ian and Judy,
There used to be an excellent technician at B&G but he left circa 2003 to set up on his own in Antigua or so we were told.

Happy New Year, Anne and John SM319

----- Original Message -----
From: Ian & Judy Jenkins
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:34 PM
Subject: {Disarmed} [Amel] RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed



Hi Gary,
A long , expensive, unfinished saga...
1. In May our transducers were checked in Trinidad. Told they were fine and the problem was the control box.
2. Took the box back to UK. B&G HQ sais it was fine and that it was the transducers! Said ( apparently this is so) that actually you can't be certain by checking the transducers.
3. Bought replacement transducers....the wrong ones. The Amel ones are about 4" long and straight. The ones shown in the B&G manual are sort of V shaped.
4. Bought the right ones from Pochon in Guadeloupe.
5. Came out in the Travellift in Guadeloupe. DON'T. Its in too narrow a slot and the guy who operates it...... 6" gouge on the boat. Only reassuring thing is the depth of the gelcoat.
6. Pochon very efficient. Old transducers came out very easily.
7. BUT...no change. Pochon then checks the box as obviously the transducers were not at fault. Replaces the card. Bingo, we have a log.
8. It looks to me as tho B&G HQ failed to spot the fault in the box.Now starts the battle to try to get them to contribute to the wholly unnecessary costs I have incurred, particularly as Pochon think the old card can be repaired.
We are now in Antigua but returning to Guadeloupe on 2 Jan. However we will be back in mid Jan for a longer stay. It would be great to meet up . Are you still based in Jolly Harbour? What are your movements?
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Gary,
A long , expensive, unfinished saga...
1. In May our transducers were checked in Trinidad. Told they were fine and the problem was the control box.
2. Took the box back to UK. B&G HQ sais it was fine and that it was the transducers! Said ( apparently this is so) that actually you can't be certain by checking the transducers.
3. Bought replacement transducers....the wrong ones. The Amel ones are about 4" long and straight. The ones shown in the B&G manual are sort of V shaped.
4. Bought the right ones from Pochon in Guadeloupe.
5. Came out in the Travellift in Guadeloupe. DON'T. Its in too narrow a slot and the guy who operates it...... 6" gouge on the boat. Only reassuring thing is the depth of the gelcoat.
6. Pochon very efficient. Old transducers came out very easily.
7. BUT...no change. Pochon then checks the box as obviously the transducers were not at fault. Replaces the card. Bingo, we have a log.
8. It looks to me as tho B&G HQ failed to spot the fault in the box.Now starts the battle to try to get them to contribute to the wholly unnecessary costs I have incurred, particularly as Pochon think the old card can be repaired.
We are now in Antigua but returning to Guadeloupe on 2 Jan. However we will be back in mid Jan for a longer stay. It would be great to meet up . Are you still based in Jolly Harbour? What are your movements?
http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465942/direct/01/

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rigging / autopilot 7000

phil.berghmans <no_reply@...>
 

hello all,

Can anyone give me the dimensions off the rigging specially the back
rigging?I want to order two insolaters to use the backrigging ass an
anteena for my SSB/email configuration.My Santorin 1994 is now in
Greece so i can't mesure it.Is it 6mm?

Can anyone give me some advice concerning the choice between autopilot
extra or spares or a windvane/pilot set.I plan to cross the atlantic
next year and do some bluewater cruising .Since one doesn't see many
windpilots on amels i was wandering how you manage the breakdown's
off the autopilots.I have the autohelm 7000 and found that the print
off the course computer allready has been changed.Which spare parts do
you take along or do you instal a second unit under the bed in the
back cabin?Or do you dubble everything as spare rotary drive,course
computer,fluxgate,...One aditional problem is that the 7000 is an old
system and doesn't have the same spares anymore as the 7001 and with
autohelm old models do not always communicate with new models?

Does anybody wants to share his experiance on this matter or do i have
to buy a total new system and take the old 7000 as spare along?

Thank you all for your help!Happy Newyear to all.


Phil from 2Miles ahead
Santorin 101


Re: Leaking raw water supply to generator

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jeff,

We have #387 and had the same problem...it is the Raw Water stainless
feed pipe. The part
number is 130-5448-01. I patched mine for the time being and have
ordered the pipe.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Auckland, NZ for cyclone season

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "rapp.jeffrey"
<rapp.jeffrey@...> wrote:

Hi
I own "Antares" SM2K378. Recently, I have been occupied with a
maddening leak from somewhere in the cooling water supply to the
generator (an Onan 7KW). It appeared to be coming from under the
generator, alongside a stainless steel pipe that transits under the
generator, but I couldn't tell for sure, because I could not see under
the generator.I spent hours tightening hose clamps and looking for
phantom leaks. It appears that Amel had custom installed this pipe for
aesthetic purposes, in order to reduce the clutter of hoses in front
of the generator.
The sea water was routed in a hose from the water closet, along the
engine room bulkhead, down under the drip pan to the aft side of the
generator, then attaches to the custom stainless pipe, which transits
along the back of the generator (inside the cover, where it's hard to
get to), dips down under the generator, then appears in the front,
where it joins to the black rubber elbow that attaches to the water
pump. Whew!
My first inclination was to simply cut the original hose and attach it
to the rubber elbow direct with a hose joint, eliminating the pipe.
However, I must have some French in me, because I decided to fix it.
To do so, it was necessary to remove the engine mount bolts, lift the
generator a couple of inches, and remove the pipe, which was repaired,
then protected with a rubber hose to eliminate the chafe against the
drip pan which caused the original leak.
I was smart enough, however, to obtain a double barbed hose union,
which is difficult to find in Cartagena in the proper size. If this
happens again, the stainless pipe is gone.
Happy holidays
Jeff


Leaking raw water supply to generator

rapp.jeffrey <rapp.jeffrey@...>
 

Hi
I own "Antares" SM2K378. Recently, I have been occupied with a
maddening leak from somewhere in the cooling water supply to the
generator (an Onan 7KW). It appeared to be coming from under the
generator, alongside a stainless steel pipe that transits under the
generator, but I couldn't tell for sure, because I could not see under
the generator.I spent hours tightening hose clamps and looking for
phantom leaks. It appears that Amel had custom installed this pipe for
aesthetic purposes, in order to reduce the clutter of hoses in front
of the generator.
The sea water was routed in a hose from the water closet, along the
engine room bulkhead, down under the drip pan to the aft side of the
generator, then attaches to the custom stainless pipe, which transits
along the back of the generator (inside the cover, where it's hard to
get to), dips down under the generator, then appears in the front,
where it joins to the black rubber elbow that attaches to the water
pump. Whew!
My first inclination was to simply cut the original hose and attach it
to the rubber elbow direct with a hose joint, eliminating the pipe.
However, I must have some French in me, because I decided to fix it.
To do so, it was necessary to remove the engine mount bolts, lift the
generator a couple of inches, and remove the pipe, which was repaired,
then protected with a rubber hose to eliminate the chafe against the
drip pan which caused the original leak.
I was smart enough, however, to obtain a double barbed hose union,
which is difficult to find in Cartagena in the proper size. If this
happens again, the stainless pipe is gone.
Happy holidays
Jeff


Leaking water pipes in Sharki

Hajé Weisfelt
 

The watersystem of my Sharki is leaking and the leaks are located
under the floor of the shower. Does anyone have any idea how to get
there?

I thought of removing the floor, but it won't move a milimeter.
Maybe I have to cut a piece out of the floor (its polyester isn't it)
and laminate the sawn out part back in afterwards. Butpreferrably not
ofcourse.

Suggestions?

Ow and a very happy newyear w'll be heading for Egypt day after
tommorrow.

Cheers, Hajé


Re: [Amel] Water Heaters

eric freedman
 

Does it have a heat exchanger for the main engine water supply cooling?



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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of joemac4sail
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 7:45 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Water Heaters



Hello All, Seasonal Greetings to everyone out there.

Just a quick question regarding water heaters, strolling around a
Hardware Store here in Sarajevo, Bosnia. I happened to notice a
rather large selection of water heaters for sale , all reasonably
priced and with the same fittings as on a standard boat waterheater,
with one exception,the fancy name. Can anyone tell me if there is any
actual difference or if an upgrade required, for what is a basic
plumming job.
Again Happy New Year to you all

Regards Joe McDonnell


BOOM TENT COVER FOR SM2000

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

Does anyone have a source for a boom tent cover for a sm2000.
I am currently using my sunshade cover while away from the boat. Has
anyone experienced any problems doing this. thank you peter pappas
nicaragua


Re: Water Heaters

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Probably the 2 main differences between home and boat water heaters
are tank construction and a system for utilizing heat from an engine
to heat the water.

If a water heater has a stainless steel tank and has plumbing allowing
the engine coolant to circulate through the tank, it may work for you
assuming the voltage is 220-240 volts.

I think the ideal replacement for your water heater is a Isotherm
Basic 40 DS (http://www.isotherm.com/en/index.html?fixframe=1&)with
dual circuits for engine coolant allowing you to heat the water with
hot coolant from the engine and/or generator and/or electricity from
shore power or the generator.

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Auckland, NZ

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "joemac4sail"
<joemac4sail@...> wrote:

Hello All, Seasonal Greetings to everyone out there.

Just a quick question regarding water heaters, strolling around a
Hardware Store here in Sarajevo, Bosnia. I happened to notice a
rather large selection of water heaters for sale , all reasonably
priced and with the same fittings as on a standard boat waterheater,
with one exception,the fancy name. Can anyone tell me if there is any
actual difference or if an upgrade required, for what is a basic
plumming job.
Again Happy New Year to you all

Regards Joe McDonnell


Water Heaters

joseph mc donnell
 

Hello All, Seasonal Greetings to everyone out there.

Just a quick question regarding water heaters, strolling around a
Hardware Store here in Sarajevo, Bosnia. I happened to notice a
rather large selection of water heaters for sale , all reasonably
priced and with the same fittings as on a standard boat waterheater,
with one exception,the fancy name. Can anyone tell me if there is any
actual difference or if an upgrade required, for what is a basic
plumming job.
Again Happy New Year to you all

Regards Joe McDonnell


Re: Amel Super Maramu Water Boiler and deck painting

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Graham:

Regarding the Penetrol/Polytrol (reportedly the same thing), I used the USA
available one (I think it was West Penetrol), on my decks after doing the stripping.
I did a test section, waited 3 months (Caribbean, Antigua sun) and it looked good.
When first applied it was very shiny but soon became a satin like finish. Next
I did the rest of the deck. It looked brand new and made the boat look
like a million bucks (in my opinion). The only initial concern was that it made
the deck a bid more slippery, but I thought this was only my imagination since
this stuff presumably doesn't "coat" the fiberglass, just merely penetrates it.

We sailed with it for 3 months and then the boat was on the hard for the
hurricane season in Antigua. Now 9 months after application, upon our return
to the boat we found the coating flaking off in 3-8 mm flakes.

The deck appeared to have eczema. It looks quite bad now, but the good
news is that the system is failing in such dramatic fashion that I believe it
will be completely gone by next month with no harm done. I will post some
pictures if there is any left when we are next on the boat.

BOTTOM LINE: It looked great while it lasted but made the decks more
slippery and failed prematurely. I would not use it again.

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona

Graham wrote:

" I elected not to use polytrol as I didn't want the decks to stick
out too much. So far I am very pleased with the result: most people don't even
comment on the decks because they just look as though "that's the way
they have always been" very smart but not too "shiny" - just what I
wanted."