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Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
Hi Alan
We have 540w on the rear arch and 500w on top of cockpit area.
For the cockpit top I inherited and nicely welded/shaped aluminium bar from SM SV Oris which attaches to the two fwd mizzen stays. At the rear I have alumni bars from mizzen mast to rear mizzen stays.
Will send you a pic direct.
Great to have the serenity and peace of mind at anchorages when one sees other SM genders gurgling away seemingly endlessly.
Hi Colin,
What is your physical arrangement for mounting all these solar panels?
We have 600w on the arch and found we can mostly get away with running the Onan every second day, but we are certainly more frugal with electricity
Cheers
Alan
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Hi, Thanks for sharing. How and where did you install the extra solar panels?
SY ALBA
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Alan Leslie
Hi Colin,
What is your physical arrangement for mounting all these solar panels?
We have 600w on the arch and found we can mostly get away with running the Onan every second day, but we are certainly more frugal with electricity
Cheers
Alan
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Dimentions of the bottom of the keel Amel 54
Hi to all.
I need the Dimentions of the bottom of the keel Amel 54.
I want to haul my boat out in a shipyard in Limassol Cyprus and need to know if the keel can come between the wheels of the trailer. (100 cm)
Thanks for your help .
Ofer
Amel 54. 160.
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Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
Hi Gary After 2 years cruising with the two Rutland 1200's we are still delighted with them. Had dual Airx and Airbreeze wind gens on our last boat and these are better in every way.
Your wind gens however will only ever be incremental amps with solar being the key driver, but without two of them you will absolutely never stop the need for daily generator use.
How much solar? We started off with 540w and had to run the genset morning and night. (note we have two freezers running all the time for 8 months out in the remote Indian Ocean & now again as we are stocked up for 7 months crossing the Pacific).
540w was clearly insufficient so in Malaysia we added another 280w taking us to 820w total run through two independent solar controllers for redundancy.
Whilst better, we still found yourself using the genset approx1 hr morning and night. (I had crew in the Indian Ocean & Atlantic oceans so we had 5 computer's, numerous ipads, cameras etc..Also I should point out we use a electric kettle jug and induction stove exclusively with very little gas use except when oven baking food.
Unlike now when it is just Lauren and I in the Caribbean and crossing the Pacific, with crew we found our fast boiling electric kettle was used at lib very inefficiently ie. each crew boiling it every time they wanted a hot drink. This wasted a lot of power and I was equally surprised at how much power each PC drained from the batteries.
Wind forward to the Caribbean and I added another 200W again through another independent controller taking our solar to 1.04kw and BINGO!!!
Now with just two of us on board, we are able to run the boat energy needs totally off solar and wind alone. What a pleasure!!! ...not only in saving genset wear and tear and noise, but also for the extended fuel range we now have as the genset, although frugal in diesel use, actually chews up a large portion of your fuel reserves reducing substantially your motoring range if you ever needed it. For example we set off next week on a direct Panama to Marquesas sail of 4000nm without stopping at Galapagos in windless doldrum conditions, so for us, not wasting fuel through the genset can sometimes be a huge bonus providing peace of mind.
Only sometimes when night sailing down wind in the trades do I find it necessary to run the genset for an hour or less. In the Caribbean however, we found the two Rutland powered our night sailing needs fine as we were generally on a beam reach, with the wind gens pumping in significantly more power than the autopilot, lights and freezers needed.
Thought I'd share this as others may also be wondering about how much solar is enough in the quest to run a typical Amel power needs totally on nature to leave a lighter environmental footprint.
Colin & Lauren Streeter Shelter Bay Marina. Panama SV Island Pearl II, SM#332 (soon for sale when we complete our circumnavigation in either New Zealand or Brisbane)
On Thu, 2 May 2019, 08:53 Gary Wells, < gary@...> wrote: Just replaced an ancient Air-x with a Rutland 1200.
The new level of sound from the Rutland is such a nice change from the Air-x. I won't ever complain about the "noise" when I can remember the db level of the old one.
Can't wait till we add some solar later this year ;)
Gary W.
SM298, Adagio
St.Thomas, USVI
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Our boat has the TMD22P. I've been using Fram PH8A oil filters, which are a generic brand of the same size. I can find them in most auto parts stores for less than $10. The fuel filter is slightly harder to come by; I had to order online. I have both Fram P8043 and Sierra 18-7942 which are equivalent.
Ryan and Kelly SM 233 Iteration Boston, MA, USA
Hi Philipp,
You might try a Volvo garage---often the marine and road filters are the same, but the road ones can be much cheaper. Volvo know how much more precious a boat is to its owner than a truck....
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece
Hi
I have also a Perkins M80T which is equivalent to the TMD22 A. For me it is not clear if I can order filter for oil and fuel from Perkins or from Volvo. Perkins is much cheaper. Till now I didn't have any problems. I have ordered always from the big online
broker parts4engine from UK. If I need to order for Volvo, then I have to order from the broker from the Netherlands which is at the moment much more expensive.
Does anybody know which is best for what?
Thanks to all for any answer or suggestions which are highly apreciated.
Philipp
Félicie, Switzerland, SM #124
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ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Philipp,
You might try a Volvo garage---often the marine and road filters are the same, but the road ones can be much cheaper. Volvo know how much more precious a boat is to its owner than a truck....
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of felicie@... <felicie@...>
Sent: 03 May 2019 14:57
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] VP TMD 22P
Hi
I have also a Perkins M80T which is equivalent to the TMD22 A. For me it is not clear if I can order filter for oil and fuel from Perkins or from Volvo. Perkins is much cheaper. Till now I didn't have any problems. I have ordered always from the big online
broker parts4engine from UK. If I need to order for Volvo, then I have to order from the broker from the Netherlands which is at the moment much more expensive.
Does anybody know which is best for what?
Thanks to all for any answer or suggestions which are highly apreciated.
Philipp
Félicie, Switzerland, SM #124
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Philipp Sollberger
Hi
I have also a Perkins M80T which is equivalent to the TMD22 A. For me it is not clear if I can order filter for oil and fuel from Perkins or from Volvo. Perkins is much cheaper. Till now I didn't have any problems. I have ordered always from the big online broker parts4engine from UK. If I need to order for Volvo, then I have to order from the broker from the Netherlands which is at the moment much more expensive.
Does anybody know which is best for what?
Thanks to all for any answer or suggestions which are highly apreciated.
Philipp
Félicie, Switzerland, SM #124
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Re: Toe rail pulley and outhaul-furling mounting doughnut
Mike Ondra
Here’s what I got from Maud. Dear Mike, Sorry for my late confirmation. I was on vacation last week. Please find here attached 2 photos of the needed black support for your LEROY SOMER gearbox. The price is 48.56 euros/ each without taxes and without transport. Let me know the needed quantity and delivery address + phone and I will arrange shipment as soon as possible. With my kindest regards, Maud TOUILLET Service clientèle/Customer service
On May 2, 2019, at 10:57 PM, Steven Bode < steve@...> wrote: Hey, Mike, What a coincidence. Just today I became aware of my need to replace these Plastic doughnuts. Like yours, mine are fully stress-cracked Anybody know what they are officially called?
Steve Bode, Captain of Sailing Vessel Intention
Currently Drydocked at ANT Yat Servis
Bodrum, Mulga, Turkiye
Amel Super Maramu #117 (1994)
+1 415-710-6659 voice/text/whatsapp
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My Superwind does not create any noises or vibrations. It is attached to the mizzen mast via a decoupling device that does not transmit vibrations. It is expensive, though.
Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
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Re: Toe rail pulley and outhaul-furling mounting doughnut
Steven Bode - SV Intention 1994-SM#117
Hey, Mike, What a coincidence. Just today I became aware of my need to replace these Plastic doughnuts. Like yours, mine are fully stress-cracked. Anybody know what they are officially called?
Steve Bode, Captain of Sailing Vessel Intention
Currently Drydocked at ANT Yat Servis
Bodrum, Mulga, Turkiye
Amel Super Maramu #117 (1994)
+1 415-710-6659 voice/text/whatsapp
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Teun BAAS
Hi Danny,
Nice – safe winds.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
Leaving NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA today
May 3, 2019
06:52:36
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 17:21
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
Hi Teun, we are heading for the Pacific in July. Planning to head for Bundaberg at the end of the season. Then harbour hopping down the coast to Sydney and south, finishing the Australian explore in Tasmania, then across the tasman home to nz
Regards
Danny
Sm 299 ocean pearl
On 02 May 2019 at 16:52 Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Hi Danny,
Thanks for your Email.
Looking forward to cruising VANUATU for 4 or 6 months (until cyclone season kicks in) and then maybe towards to SOLOMON ISLANDS, PNG and then INDONESIA
etc. or maybe first to AUSTRALIA.
Maybe we meet in one these areas?
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
May 2, 2019
15:52:38
Hi Teun,
I am sure you will enjoy Vanuatu. Tana volcano is amazing, you can stand above the crater and watch it blow. Wow. Then as you go North you will find many places of great interest.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 02 May 2019 at 14:23 Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Bill,
Final outcome:
A loose spade connection under AMEL dash board near the switch. Everything else is fine.
I guess the rocking & rolling yday caused this but I believe this connection was handled by Willie last year when they put in the new
dash board.
Anyhow – all good to go for leaving tomorrow morning to VAUATU.
Also thanks for the feedback from Arno and Ian.
Best Regards Teun
AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 2, 2019
13:22:34
Hi Bill,
Willie on board. Switch is good.
I didn’t know that next to the white Velcro panel where there are 2 heat breakers when you open the closet door there is at the top
a wooden panel which is held by 1 screw. When removing it gives access to 1 main furler (brake) relay and 2 solenoids. See pic.
Willie is testing now.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 2, 2019 09:16:24
Bill,
I knew of these 2 boxes but was not aware they were the solenoids; I thought they were resistance breakers.
I will have it checked by Willie this morning. From everything it sounds the bushes might be likely the issue as it furls in no problem;
when the motor released from the furler we can hand crank easily.
Will let you know the outcome today.
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA.
May 2, 2019 06:48:30
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 22:10
To:
main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
Teun,
Furling solenoid is behind the Velcro'd panel just inside the forward watertight door near the ceiling, or behind the Velcro'd panel in the forward port side berth. I don't think
this is the problem, but Willie should check it and the helm mounted toggle switch.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 10:17 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Correct – furling motor/gearbox.
Did loosen as you described below; can furl & unfurl manually - no sail jam.
Did NOT rap the gearbox; it is night now; will do tomorrow.
Willie is coming on board 2nd thing tomorrow morning; was holiday here today.
Brushes motor – didn’t think about those. l did study your AMEL bible but missed that.
Where is the solenoid – I tried
to find in the manual as well as your “A B”. As this is similar problem I had 2 weeks ago with the windlass (not down but luckily did go up) which was the solenoid I have been trying to locate.
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 2009
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 1, 2019 20:15:11
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 19:32
To:
main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
First check the simple things:
I assume you are having an issue with the furling motor/gearbox and not the outhaul motor/gearbox.
Loosen the 4 bolts on the furling motor/gearbox, lower the unit enough to disengage the main foil fr the motor/gearbox, then test the manual furler with a winch handle. If it works, you've eliminated a sail jam.
Next try the furler motor while disconnected. Take a rubber mallet a rap the gearbox sharply. If either of these work, call Willie and tell him you probably need new brushes in the motor. You may have spares... check my Amel Book for changing brushes.
It is possible that the large solenoid has failed, but I have yet to actually see this happen.
Get back to me.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 5:51 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Was on my way to TANNA VANUATU and can NOT unfurl the main sail. It will furl but NOT unfurl.
The switch in the cockpit is good. Any suggestions?
Have returned to NOUMEA as I need to have this working before crossing to VANUATU
Thanks.
Teun BAAS
AMELIT A54 2009
NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA
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Gary Wells
Just replaced an ancient Air-x with a Rutland 1200.
The new level of sound from the Rutland is such a nice change from the Air-x. I won't ever complain about the "noise" when I can remember the db level of the old one.
Can't wait till we add some solar later this year ;)
Gary W.
SM298, Adagio
St.Thomas, USVI
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OK, this is what I was talking about. This is where the furling motor wire connects. The solenoid allows for reverse polarity, as well. Reversing the polarity causes the reversing of motor rotation.
Best,
Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St. Galveston, Texas 77550 832-380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:18 PM Teun BAAS < teun@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Willie on board. Switch is good.
I didn’t know that next to the white Velcro panel where there are 2 heat breakers when you open the closet door there is at the top a wooden panel which is held
by 1 screw. When removing it gives access to 1 main furler (brake) relay and 2 solenoids. See pic.
Willie is testing now.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 2, 2019
09:16:24
Bill,
I knew of these 2 boxes but was not aware they were the solenoids; I thought they were resistance breakers.
I will have it checked by Willie this morning. From everything it sounds the bushes might be likely the issue as it furls in no problem; when the motor released
from the furler we can hand crank easily.
Will let you know the outcome today.
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA.
May 2, 2019 06:48:30
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 22:10
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
Teun,
Furling solenoid is behind the Velcro'd panel just inside the forward watertight door near the ceiling, or behind the Velcro'd panel in the forward port side berth. I don't think this is the problem, but Willie
should check it and the helm mounted toggle switch.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 10:17 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Correct – furling motor/gearbox.
Did loosen as you described below; can furl & unfurl manually - no sail jam.
Did NOT rap the gearbox; it is night now; will do tomorrow.
Willie is coming on board 2nd thing tomorrow morning; was holiday here today.
Brushes motor – didn’t think about those. l did study your AMEL bible but missed that.
Where is the solenoid
– I tried to find in the manual as well as your “A B”. As this is similar problem I had 2 weeks ago with the windlass (not down but luckily did go up) which was the solenoid I have been trying to locate.
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 2009
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 1, 2019 20:15:11
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 19:32
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
First check the simple things:
I assume you are having an issue with the furling motor/gearbox and not the outhaul motor/gearbox.
Loosen the 4 bolts on the furling motor/gearbox, lower the unit enough to disengage the main foil fr the motor/gearbox, then test the manual furler with a winch handle. If it works,
you've eliminated a sail jam. Next try the furler motor while disconnected. Take a rubber mallet a rap the gearbox sharply. If either of these work, call Willie and tell him you probably need new brushes in the motor. You may have spares... check my Amel Book
for changing brushes.
It is possible that the large solenoid has failed, but I have yet to actually see this happen.
Get back to me.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 5:51 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Was on my way to TANNA VANUATU and can NOT unfurl the main sail. It will furl but NOT unfurl.
The switch in the cockpit is good. Any suggestions?
Have returned to NOUMEA as I need to have this working before crossing to VANUATU
Thanks.
Teun BAAS
AMELIT A54 2009
NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA
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Hi Teun, we are heading for the Pacific in July. Planning to head for Bundaberg at the end of the season. Then harbour hopping down the coast to Sydney and south, finishing the Australian explore in Tasmania, then across the tasman home to nz Regards Danny Sm 299 ocean pearl
On 02 May 2019 at 16:52 Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Hi Danny, Thanks for your Email. Looking forward to cruising VANUATU for 4 or 6 months (until cyclone season kicks in) and then maybe towards to SOLOMON ISLANDS, PNG and then INDONESIA etc. or maybe first to AUSTRALIA. Maybe we meet in one these areas? Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128 May 2, 2019 15:52:38 From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 15:13
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler Hi Teun, I am sure you will enjoy Vanuatu. Tana volcano is amazing, you can stand above the crater and watch it blow. Wow. Then as you go North you will find many places of great interest. Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 02 May 2019 at 14:23 Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote: Bill, Final outcome: A loose spade connection under AMEL dash board near the switch. Everything else is fine. I guess the rocking & rolling yday caused this but I believe this connection was handled by Willie last year when they put in the new dash board. Anyhow – all good to go for leaving tomorrow morning to VAUATU. Also thanks for the feedback from Arno and Ian. Best Regards Teun AMELIT A54 #128 NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA May 2, 2019 13:22:34 Hi Bill, Willie on board. Switch is good. I didn’t know that next to the white Velcro panel where there are 2 heat breakers when you open the closet door there is at the top a wooden panel which is held by 1 screw. When removing it gives access to 1 main furler (brake) relay and 2 solenoids. See pic. Willie is testing now. Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128 NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA May 2, 2019 09:16:24 Bill, I knew of these 2 boxes but was not aware they were the solenoids; I thought they were resistance breakers. I will have it checked by Willie this morning. From everything it sounds the bushes might be likely the issue as it furls in no problem; when the motor released from the furler we can hand crank easily. Will let you know the outcome today. Thanks for the help. Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128 NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA. May 2, 2019 06:48:30 From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 22:10
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler Teun, Furling solenoid is behind the Velcro'd panel just inside the forward watertight door near the ceiling, or behind the Velcro'd panel in the forward port side berth. I don't think this is the problem, but Willie should check it and the helm mounted toggle switch. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970 On Wed, May 1, 2019, 10:17 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote: Hi Bill, Correct – furling motor/gearbox. Did loosen as you described below; can furl & unfurl manually - no sail jam. Did NOT rap the gearbox; it is night now; will do tomorrow. Willie is coming on board 2nd thing tomorrow morning; was holiday here today. Brushes motor – didn’t think about those. l did study your AMEL bible but missed that. Where is the solenoid – I tried to find in the manual as well as your “A B”. As this is similar problem I had 2 weeks ago with the windlass (not down but luckily did go up) which was the solenoid I have been trying to locate. Thanks for the help. Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 2009 NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA May 1, 2019 20:15:11 From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 19:32
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler First check the simple things: I assume you are having an issue with the furling motor/gearbox and not the outhaul motor/gearbox. Loosen the 4 bolts on the furling motor/gearbox, lower the unit enough to disengage the main foil fr the motor/gearbox, then test the manual furler with a winch handle. If it works, you've eliminated a sail jam. Next try the furler motor while disconnected. Take a rubber mallet a rap the gearbox sharply. If either of these work, call Willie and tell him you probably need new brushes in the motor. You may have spares... check my Amel Book for changing brushes. It is possible that the large solenoid has failed, but I have yet to actually see this happen. Get back to me. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970 On Wed, May 1, 2019, 5:51 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote: Was on my way to TANNA VANUATU and can NOT unfurl the main sail. It will furl but NOT unfurl.
The switch in the cockpit is good. Any suggestions?
Have returned to NOUMEA as I need to have this working before crossing to VANUATU
Thanks.
Teun BAAS
AMELIT A54 2009
NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA
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Teun BAAS
Hi Danny,
Thanks for your Email.
Looking forward to cruising VANUATU for 4 or 6 months (until cyclone season kicks in) and then maybe towards to SOLOMON ISLANDS, PNG and then INDONESIA etc. or
maybe first to AUSTRALIA.
Maybe we meet in one these areas?
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
May 2, 2019
15:52:38
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 15:13
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
Hi Teun,
I am sure you will enjoy Vanuatu. Tana volcano is amazing, you can stand above the crater and watch it blow. Wow. Then as you go North you will find many places of great interest.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 02 May 2019 at 14:23 Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Bill,
Final outcome:
A loose spade connection under AMEL dash board near the switch. Everything else is fine.
I guess the rocking & rolling yday caused this but I believe this connection was handled by Willie last year when they put in the new dash board.
Anyhow – all good to go for leaving tomorrow morning to VAUATU.
Also thanks for the feedback from Arno and Ian.
Best Regards Teun
AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 2, 2019
13:22:34
Hi Bill,
Willie on board. Switch is good.
I didn’t know that next to the white Velcro panel where there are 2 heat breakers when you open the closet door there is at the top a wooden panel
which is held by 1 screw. When removing it gives access to 1 main furler (brake) relay and 2 solenoids. See pic.
Willie is testing now.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 2, 2019 09:16:24
Bill,
I knew of these 2 boxes but was not aware they were the solenoids; I thought they were resistance breakers.
I will have it checked by Willie this morning. From everything it sounds the bushes might be likely the issue as it furls in no problem; when the
motor released from the furler we can hand crank easily.
Will let you know the outcome today.
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA.
May 2, 2019 06:48:30
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 22:10
To:
main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
Teun,
Furling solenoid is behind the Velcro'd panel just inside the forward watertight door near the ceiling, or behind the Velcro'd panel in the forward port side berth. I don't think this is the problem,
but Willie should check it and the helm mounted toggle switch.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 10:17 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Correct – furling motor/gearbox.
Did loosen as you described below; can furl & unfurl manually - no sail jam.
Did NOT rap the gearbox; it is night now; will do tomorrow.
Willie is coming on board 2nd thing tomorrow morning; was holiday here today.
Brushes motor – didn’t think about those. l did study your AMEL bible but missed that.
Where is the solenoid – I tried to find in the
manual as well as your “A B”. As this is similar problem I had 2 weeks ago with the windlass (not down but luckily did go up) which was the solenoid I have been trying to locate.
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 2009
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 1, 2019 20:15:11
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 19:32
To:
main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
First check the simple things:
I assume you are having an issue with the furling motor/gearbox and not the outhaul motor/gearbox.
Loosen the 4 bolts on the furling motor/gearbox, lower the unit enough to disengage the main foil fr the motor/gearbox, then test the manual furler with a winch handle. If it works, you've eliminated a sail jam. Next try the
furler motor while disconnected. Take a rubber mallet a rap the gearbox sharply. If either of these work, call Willie and tell him you probably need new brushes in the motor. You may have spares... check my Amel Book for changing brushes.
It is possible that the large solenoid has failed, but I have yet to actually see this happen.
Get back to me.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 5:51 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Was on my way to TANNA VANUATU and can NOT unfurl the main sail. It will furl but NOT unfurl.
The switch in the cockpit is good. Any suggestions?
Have returned to NOUMEA as I need to have this working before crossing to VANUATU
Thanks.
Teun BAAS
AMELIT A54 2009
NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA
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Hi Teun, I am sure you will enjoy Vanuatu. Tana volcano is amazing, you can stand above the crater and watch it blow. Wow. Then as you go North you will find many places of great interest. Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 02 May 2019 at 14:23 Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Bill, Final outcome: A loose spade connection under AMEL dash board near the switch. Everything else is fine. I guess the rocking & rolling yday caused this but I believe this connection was handled by Willie last year when they put in the new dash board. Anyhow – all good to go for leaving tomorrow morning to VAUATU. Also thanks for the feedback from Arno and Ian. Best Regards Teun AMELIT A54 #128 NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA May 2, 2019 13:22:34 From: Teun BAAS
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 09:18
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: RE: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler Hi Bill, Willie on board. Switch is good. I didn’t know that next to the white Velcro panel where there are 2 heat breakers when you open the closet door there is at the top a wooden panel which is held by 1 screw. When removing it gives access to 1 main furler (brake) relay and 2 solenoids. See pic. Willie is testing now. Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128 NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA May 2, 2019 09:16:24 Bill, I knew of these 2 boxes but was not aware they were the solenoids; I thought they were resistance breakers. I will have it checked by Willie this morning. From everything it sounds the bushes might be likely the issue as it furls in no problem; when the motor released from the furler we can hand crank easily. Will let you know the outcome today. Thanks for the help. Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128 NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA. May 2, 2019 06:48:30 From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 22:10
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler Teun, Furling solenoid is behind the Velcro'd panel just inside the forward watertight door near the ceiling, or behind the Velcro'd panel in the forward port side berth. I don't think this is the problem, but Willie should check it and the helm mounted toggle switch. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970 On Wed, May 1, 2019, 10:17 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote: Hi Bill, Correct – furling motor/gearbox. Did loosen as you described below; can furl & unfurl manually - no sail jam. Did NOT rap the gearbox; it is night now; will do tomorrow. Willie is coming on board 2nd thing tomorrow morning; was holiday here today. Brushes motor – didn’t think about those. l did study your AMEL bible but missed that. Where is the solenoid – I tried to find in the manual as well as your “A B”. As this is similar problem I had 2 weeks ago with the windlass (not down but luckily did go up) which was the solenoid I have been trying to locate. Thanks for the help. Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 2009 NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA May 1, 2019 20:15:11 From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 19:32
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler First check the simple things: I assume you are having an issue with the furling motor/gearbox and not the outhaul motor/gearbox. Loosen the 4 bolts on the furling motor/gearbox, lower the unit enough to disengage the main foil fr the motor/gearbox, then test the manual furler with a winch handle. If it works, you've eliminated a sail jam. Next try the furler motor while disconnected. Take a rubber mallet a rap the gearbox sharply. If either of these work, call Willie and tell him you probably need new brushes in the motor. You may have spares... check my Amel Book for changing brushes. It is possible that the large solenoid has failed, but I have yet to actually see this happen. Get back to me. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970 On Wed, May 1, 2019, 5:51 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote: Was on my way to TANNA VANUATU and can NOT unfurl the main sail. It will furl but NOT unfurl.
The switch in the cockpit is good. Any suggestions?
Have returned to NOUMEA as I need to have this working before crossing to VANUATU
Thanks.
Teun BAAS
AMELIT A54 2009
NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA
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Teun BAAS
BTW
Behind the white velcroed panel in the guest cabin on the A54 mentioned earlier are 2 overload protectors.
When I got the boat the main outhaul had a problem and Bill & I decided to replace the complete motor & gear box but noticed that this overload had heated before
as there were black heating marks around the area on the bulkhead. Thierry/AMEL sent a new unit jointly with the motor & gear box. This new unit (75 AMP) didn’t work and we had to use the 100 Amp MAXI FUSE override (which was zip tied to the wires) to get
the outhaul to work. Thierry/AMEL sent a new unit (also 75 Amp) and we installed today and AGAIN it didn’t work and we are back to using the 100 Amp MAXI FUSE.
Clearly there is a problem with these overload protectors as they don’t work as they should. It can NOT be that the outhaul/gearbox needs to be cleaned, greased &
serviced as it is brand-new and it says no grease & service needed.
Best Regards Teun
AMELIT A54 #128
May 2, 2019
13:36:26
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
From: Teun BAAS
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 13:24
To: 'main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io' <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
Bill,
Final outcome:
A loose spade connection under AMEL dash board near the switch. Everything else is fine.
I guess the rocking & rolling yday caused this but I believe this connection was handled by Willie last year when they put in the new dash board.
Anyhow – all good to go for leaving tomorrow morning to VAUATU.
Also thanks for the feedback from Arno and Ian.
Best Regards Teun
AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 2, 2019 13:22:34
Hi Bill,
Willie on board. Switch is good.
I didn’t know that next to the white Velcro panel where there are 2 heat breakers when you open the closet door there is at the top a wooden panel which is held
by 1 screw. When removing it gives access to 1 main furler (brake) relay and 2 solenoids. See pic.
Willie is testing now.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 2, 2019 09:16:24
Bill,
I knew of these 2 boxes but was not aware they were the solenoids; I thought they were resistance breakers.
I will have it checked by Willie this morning. From everything it sounds the bushes might be likely the issue as it furls in no problem; when the motor released
from the furler we can hand crank easily.
Will let you know the outcome today.
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA.
May 2, 2019 06:48:30
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 22:10
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
Teun,
Furling solenoid is behind the Velcro'd panel just inside the forward watertight door near the ceiling, or behind the Velcro'd panel in the forward port side berth. I don't think this is the problem, but Willie
should check it and the helm mounted toggle switch.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 10:17 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Correct – furling motor/gearbox.
Did loosen as you described below; can furl & unfurl manually - no sail jam.
Did NOT rap the gearbox; it is night now; will do tomorrow.
Willie is coming on board 2nd thing tomorrow morning; was holiday here today.
Brushes motor – didn’t think about those. l did study your AMEL bible but missed that.
Where is the solenoid
– I tried to find in the manual as well as your “A B”. As this is similar problem I had 2 weeks ago with the windlass (not down but luckily did go up) which was the solenoid I have been trying to locate.
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 2009
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 1, 2019 20:15:11
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 19:32
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
First check the simple things:
I assume you are having an issue with the furling motor/gearbox and not the outhaul motor/gearbox.
Loosen the 4 bolts on the furling motor/gearbox, lower the unit enough to disengage the main foil fr the motor/gearbox, then test the manual furler with a winch handle. If it works,
you've eliminated a sail jam. Next try the furler motor while disconnected. Take a rubber mallet a rap the gearbox sharply. If either of these work, call Willie and tell him you probably need new brushes in the motor. You may have spares... check my Amel Book
for changing brushes.
It is possible that the large solenoid has failed, but I have yet to actually see this happen.
Get back to me.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 5:51 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Was on my way to TANNA VANUATU and can NOT unfurl the main sail. It will furl but NOT unfurl.
The switch in the cockpit is good. Any suggestions?
Have returned to NOUMEA as I need to have this working before crossing to VANUATU
Thanks.
Teun BAAS
AMELIT A54 2009
NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA
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Teun BAAS
Bill,
Final outcome:
A loose spade connection under AMEL dash board near the switch. Everything else is fine.
I guess the rocking & rolling yday caused this but I believe this connection was handled by Willie last year when they put in the new dash board.
Anyhow – all good to go for leaving tomorrow morning to VAUATU.
Also thanks for the feedback from Arno and Ian.
Best Regards Teun
AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 2, 2019
13:22:34
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
From: Teun BAAS
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 09:18
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: RE: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
Hi Bill,
Willie on board. Switch is good.
I didn’t know that next to the white Velcro panel where there are 2 heat breakers when you open the closet door there is at the top a wooden panel which is held
by 1 screw. When removing it gives access to 1 main furler (brake) relay and 2 solenoids. See pic.
Willie is testing now.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 2, 2019 09:16:24
Bill,
I knew of these 2 boxes but was not aware they were the solenoids; I thought they were resistance breakers.
I will have it checked by Willie this morning. From everything it sounds the bushes might be likely the issue as it furls in no problem; when the motor released
from the furler we can hand crank easily.
Will let you know the outcome today.
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA.
May 2, 2019 06:48:30
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 22:10
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
Teun,
Furling solenoid is behind the Velcro'd panel just inside the forward watertight door near the ceiling, or behind the Velcro'd panel in the forward port side berth. I don't think this is the problem, but Willie
should check it and the helm mounted toggle switch.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 10:17 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Correct – furling motor/gearbox.
Did loosen as you described below; can furl & unfurl manually - no sail jam.
Did NOT rap the gearbox; it is night now; will do tomorrow.
Willie is coming on board 2nd thing tomorrow morning; was holiday here today.
Brushes motor – didn’t think about those. l did study your AMEL bible but missed that.
Where is the solenoid
– I tried to find in the manual as well as your “A B”. As this is similar problem I had 2 weeks ago with the windlass (not down but luckily did go up) which was the solenoid I have been trying to locate.
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 2009
NOUMEA NEW CALEDONIA
May 1, 2019 20:15:11
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 19:32
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL 54 main furler
First check the simple things:
I assume you are having an issue with the furling motor/gearbox and not the outhaul motor/gearbox.
Loosen the 4 bolts on the furling motor/gearbox, lower the unit enough to disengage the main foil fr the motor/gearbox, then test the manual furler with a winch handle. If it works,
you've eliminated a sail jam. Next try the furler motor while disconnected. Take a rubber mallet a rap the gearbox sharply. If either of these work, call Willie and tell him you probably need new brushes in the motor. You may have spares... check my Amel Book
for changing brushes.
It is possible that the large solenoid has failed, but I have yet to actually see this happen.
Get back to me.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Wed, May 1, 2019, 5:51 AM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
Was on my way to TANNA VANUATU and can NOT unfurl the main sail. It will furl but NOT unfurl.
The switch in the cockpit is good. Any suggestions?
Have returned to NOUMEA as I need to have this working before crossing to VANUATU
Thanks.
Teun BAAS
AMELIT A54 2009
NOUMEA, NEW CALEDONIA
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Re: Sailing north to Annapolis
Courtney Gorman
Great spot and very safe best of all free BEER 🍺
On May 1, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Rob Hughes via Groups.Io < svluna01@...> wrote: I have a reservation for brunswick landing marina and we will be there the end of may. they are selling out fast
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