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Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Thanks Bill and Mark.

 

If the manual says it cuts out after 1 minute then I guess its working properly. However, in the past, whenever I have returned to the boat and recommissioned the watermaker, I have run it on no pressure for half as hour, on advice, to flush all the sterilant through before turning up the pressure, and have never experienced this shutdown after 1 minute. I will contact Dessalator as Bill has suggested and get back to you with their answer.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 06 May 2019 09:49
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
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Brass Ring  A54


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Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Wind Generators

Alan Leslie
 

Impressive !, but it means the cockpit is permanently covered...maybe not so bad these days !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Correct, sorry about that. 

Who knows? Possibly there is a soft switch and timer that activates the alarm when there is zero output flow. I would email Nicholas at contact"at"dessalator.com

You want to know, I need to know, and we likely have an audience that wants to also know. If you like, I'll email him. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, May 5, 2019, 9:03 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Bill,

 

The pressure was off – all the way anticlockwise -  so there should have been no water going through the membranes and therefore none getting to the TDS sensor.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 05 May 2019 19:31
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Paul,

 

I would say that if the TDS (Total Dissolved Sensor) is working you should get a RED light and shutdown because you certainly have a high TDS with the sterilizing solution in a bucket of water.

 

Best,

 

Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St.

Galveston, Texas 77550

832-380-4970

 

 

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:18 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I was flushing steriliser through my Dessalator, both hoses in a bucket of solution, no pressure, and it kept on cutting out after one minute with the red error light flashing. I just re-started it each time without any other problem, but it still cut out after every minute of operation. It never did that before. I’m curious – any ideas?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


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Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Bill,

 

The pressure was off – all the way anticlockwise -  so there should have been no water going through the membranes and therefore none getting to the TDS sensor.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 05 May 2019 19:31
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Paul,

 

I would say that if the TDS (Total Dissolved Sensor) is working you should get a RED light and shutdown because you certainly have a high TDS with the sterilizing solution in a bucket of water.

 

Best,

 

Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St.

Galveston, Texas 77550

832-380-4970

 

 

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:18 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I was flushing steriliser through my Dessalator, both hoses in a bucket of solution, no pressure, and it kept on cutting out after one minute with the red error light flashing. I just re-started it each time without any other problem, but it still cut out after every minute of operation. It never did that before. I’m curious – any ideas?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


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Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Bow chainplate

ngtnewington Newington
 

Some time ago I was asked if Amelia an Amel 54 Hull number 019 had the beefed up bow fitting onto which the forestay is attached. The answer is it is 10 mm. So yes.
Regards to all,

Nick, ready to leave Funchal bound for the Mediterranean tomorrow.

fitting bow

ngtnewington Newington
 

Amelia
AML 54-019 2006

Re: Wind Generators

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Here are a few pics today. Still experimenting with angles to sun so outer two panels tied on before bolting through, but note the aluminium welded bars between stays and again at rear between mizzen mast and stays.


On Sat, 4 May 2019, 08:07 Sailing Island Pearl, <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Hi Alan

We have 540w on the rear arch and 500w on top of cockpit area.

For the cockpit top I inherited and nicely welded/shaped aluminium bar from SM SV Oris which attaches to the two fwd mizzen stays. At the rear I have alumni bars from mizzen mast to rear mizzen stays.

Will send you a pic direct.

Great to have the serenity and peace of mind at anchorages when one sees other SM genders gurgling away seemingly endlessly.

On Sat, 4 May 2019, 03:56 Alan Leslie, <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Hi Colin,

What is your physical arrangement for mounting all these solar panels?
We have 600w on the arch and found we can mostly get away with running the Onan every second day, but we are certainly more frugal with electricity
Cheers
Alan

Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 
Edited

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Paul,

I would say that if the TDS (Total Dissolved Sensor) is working you should get a RED light and shutdown because you certainly have a high TDS with the sterilizing solution in a bucket of water.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:18 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I was flushing steriliser through my Dessalator, both hoses in a bucket of solution, no pressure, and it kept on cutting out after one minute with the red error light flashing. I just re-started it each time without any other problem, but it still cut out after every minute of operation. It never did that before. I’m curious – any ideas?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi all,

 

I was flushing steriliser through my Dessalator, both hoses in a bucket of solution, no pressure, and it kept on cutting out after one minute with the red error light flashing. I just re-started it each time without any other problem, but it still cut out after every minute of operation. It never did that before. I’m curious – any ideas?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Capacitors for Climma A/C

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Alex,

 

I have bought various capacitors and they all work, as long as the capacitance and voltage are correct.

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alex Ramseyer
Sent: 25 April 2019 01:22
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Capacitors for Climma A/C

 

Dear Amelians,
I'm trying to source 2mf and 4 mf Capacitors for the onboard Climma A/C unit. I'm currently in Fort Lauderdale.
The technician from a local Climma representative told me it needs to be the original Italfarad- but has no stock.

What's the experience in this group. Does it really have to be Italfarad or will any other (available) capacitor with the correct specs work too?

Best regards,
Alex Ramseyer
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15
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Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Wind Generators

Teun BAAS
 

I have the Superwind on my solar arch very close to the aft Master cabin. No vibration nor noise at all. Very happy and it generates around 5Amps/hour here in the South Pacific.

 

Combined with 875 solar I am energy positive while sailing.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

Plage de PEDE  MARE  NEW CALEDONIA

May 5, 2019 21:34:31

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 16:51
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Wind Generators

 

My Superwind does not create any noises or vibrations.  It is attached to the mizzen mast via a decoupling device that does not transmit vibrations.   It is expensive, though.  

 

Joerg Esdorn

A55 #53

Kincsem

 

Re: Wind Generators

Nicolas Klene
 

Hi Colin 
I would love to see the picture of your solar arrangement too if possible !
more than 1Kwatt of solar power , has to be seen :-))
safe passage 
nick

Re: VP TMD 22P

John Clark
 

Right any Auto parts store can cross reference the numbers and sell you the local equivalent.  I got filters in Martinique based on the US part number of the old filter. 


On Fri, May 3, 2019, 1:03 PM Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:
Our boat has the TMD22P.  I've been using Fram PH8A oil filters, which are a generic brand of the same size.  I can find them in most auto parts stores for less than $10.  The fuel filter is slightly harder to come by; I had to order online.  I have both Fram P8043 and Sierra 18-7942 which are equivalent.

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 11:12 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:
 Hi Philipp,

 You might try a Volvo garage---often the marine and road filters are the same, but the road ones can be much cheaper. Volvo know how much more precious a boat is to its owner than a truck....


 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of felicie@... <felicie@...>
Sent: 03 May 2019 14:57
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] VP TMD 22P
 
Hi

I have also a Perkins M80T which is equivalent to the TMD22 A. For me it is not clear if I can order filter for oil and fuel from Perkins or from Volvo. Perkins is much cheaper. Till now I didn't have any problems. I have ordered always from the big online broker parts4engine from UK. If I need to order for Volvo, then I have to order from the broker from the Netherlands which is at the moment much more expensive.
Does anybody know which is best for what?

Thanks to all for any answer or suggestions which are highly apreciated.

Philipp
Félicie, Switzerland, SM #124

Re: Wind Generators

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Hi Alan

We have 540w on the rear arch and 500w on top of cockpit area.

For the cockpit top I inherited and nicely welded/shaped aluminium bar from SM SV Oris which attaches to the two fwd mizzen stays. At the rear I have alumni bars from mizzen mast to rear mizzen stays.

Will send you a pic direct.

Great to have the serenity and peace of mind at anchorages when one sees other SM genders gurgling away seemingly endlessly.

On Sat, 4 May 2019, 03:56 Alan Leslie, <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Hi Colin,

What is your physical arrangement for mounting all these solar panels?
We have 600w on the arch and found we can mostly get away with running the Onan every second day, but we are certainly more frugal with electricity
Cheers
Alan

Re: Wind Generators

ofer magen
 

Hi, 
Thanks for sharing. 
How and where did you install the extra solar panels? 

SY ALBA 
Amel 54 160
Ofer Magen

Re: Wind Generators

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Colin,

What is your physical arrangement for mounting all these solar panels?
We have 600w on the arch and found we can mostly get away with running the Onan every second day, but we are certainly more frugal with electricity
Cheers
Alan

Dimentions of the bottom of the keel Amel 54

ofer magen
 

Hi to all. 
I need the Dimentions of the bottom of the keel Amel 54.
I want to haul my boat out in a shipyard in Limassol  Cyprus  and need to know if the keel can come between the wheels of the trailer. (100 cm) 
Thanks for your help . 
Ofer 
Amel 54. 160.

Re: Wind Generators

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Hi Gary

After 2 years cruising with the two Rutland 1200's we are still delighted with them. Had dual Airx and Airbreeze wind gens on our last boat and these are better in every way.

Your wind gens however will only ever be incremental amps with solar being the key driver, but without two of them you will absolutely never stop the need for daily generator use.

How much solar? We started off with 540w and had to run the genset morning and night. (note we have two freezers running all the time for 8 months out in the remote Indian Ocean & now again as we are stocked up for 7 months crossing the Pacific).

540w was clearly insufficient so in Malaysia we added another 280w taking us to 820w total run through two independent solar controllers for redundancy.

Whilst better, we still found yourself using the genset approx1 hr morning and night. (I had crew in the Indian Ocean & Atlantic oceans so we had 5 computer's, numerous ipads, cameras etc..Also I should point out we use a electric kettle jug and induction stove exclusively with  very little gas use except when oven baking food. 

Unlike now when it is just Lauren and I in the Caribbean and crossing the Pacific, with crew we found our fast boiling electric kettle was used at lib very inefficiently ie. each crew boiling it every time they wanted a hot drink. This wasted a lot of power and I was equally surprised at how much power each PC drained from the batteries.

Wind forward to the Caribbean and I added another 200W again through another independent controller taking our solar to 1.04kw and BINGO!!!

Now with just two of us on board, we are able to run the boat energy needs totally off solar and wind alone. What a pleasure!!!  ...not only in saving genset wear and tear and noise, but also for the extended fuel range we now have as the genset, although frugal in diesel use, actually chews up a large portion of your fuel reserves reducing substantially your motoring range if you ever needed it. For example we set off next week on a direct Panama to Marquesas sail of 4000nm without stopping at Galapagos in windless doldrum conditions, so for us, not wasting fuel through the genset can sometimes be a huge bonus providing peace of mind.

Only sometimes when night sailing down wind in the trades do I find it necessary to run the genset for an hour or less. In the Caribbean however, we found the two Rutland powered our night sailing needs fine as we were generally on a beam reach, with the wind gens pumping in significantly more power than the autopilot, lights and freezers needed.

Thought I'd share this as others may also be wondering about how much solar is enough in the quest to run a typical Amel power needs totally on nature to leave a lighter environmental footprint.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Shelter Bay Marina. Panama
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332 
(soon for sale when we complete our circumnavigation in either New Zealand or Brisbane)







On Thu, 2 May 2019, 08:53 Gary Wells, <gary@...> wrote:
Just replaced an ancient Air-x with a Rutland 1200.  
The new level of sound from the Rutland is such a nice change from the Air-x.  I won't ever complain about the "noise" when I can remember the db level of the old one. 
Can't wait till we add some solar later this year ;)

Gary W.
SM298, Adagio
St.Thomas, USVI