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BETA Motors

Alexander Ramseyer
 

I'm interested to talk to owners who run their AMEL on a Beta motor (or who currently are in a project).
I plan to replace my Volvo in the next 1-3 years.
If you have information on AMELs with Beta or own one, please let me know.

Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54#15
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Am 06.05.19, 04:44, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> schrieb:

Bill,

 

This is the reply from Dessalator (and quite quick there were too!):

 

Dear Paul,

 

Thank you for your inquiry.

 

If you run the unit without increasing the pressure, it is normal that it shuts after one minute.

 

The good procedure to flush the water maker when you return on your boat is to turn the rinsing valve located on the low pressure pump, but WITHOUT running the water maker.

 

You will find the procedure enclosed.

 

If you have any doubt, you can call for free our engineer, M. Martin de Jong, on Whatsapp. Please find enclosed his contact info.

 

With our best regards,

 

Nicolas Bouffartigue

Secretary Dessalator

 

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 06 May 2019 09:49
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

24V electrical connection of Duo D 100 BY Dessalator

Alexander Ramseyer
 

Could anyone who has the same system on board please share a picture of the electrical connection?

I had a guy from Watermakers Inc. Ft. Lauderdale on board to do a pump refurbishment (I tought..) He first wanted to de-install the whole unit....loosened the electrical connections to later find out that he prefers to only take the pump with him. It's quite incredible how this company (sent another guy to install, a third one did the actual pump refurbishment) left my boat.

Best regards,
Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54#15

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Am 06.05.19, 03:27, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> schrieb:

Thanks Bill and Mark.

 

If the manual says it cuts out after 1 minute then I guess its working properly. However, in the past, whenever I have returned to the boat and recommissioned the watermaker, I have run it on no pressure for half as hour, on advice, to flush all the sterilant through before turning up the pressure, and have never experienced this shutdown after 1 minute. I will contact Dessalator as Bill has suggested and get back to you with their answer.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 06 May 2019 09:49
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Re: Bonding Earthing Connection to Keel.
We have completed the re-attachment of the earth bonding keel strap to Amel 54 "Lady Penelope II" and Amel 54 "Wasabi" here at Marina di Ragusa.
Rudi and I used copper earthing wire that you would find in building construction.
We put lug connectors on each end and covered the copper wire with heat shrink rubber/pvc tube, then sealed both ends with rubber/pvc liquid wire seal.
The reason that we sealed the copper wire was we saw how the copper strap had just been corroded away by the bilge water. The sealing of the complete length of the copper wire  was to make sure that no moisture/bilge water got into the copper wire  from either end.
We were able to attach the bottom of the copper wire to the keel bolt using a copper earth pole lug which we attached using a stainless steel bolt and nut with lock tight. The 30mm nut firmly secured this to the keel bolt.
The earth bonding wires from the boat connected at the top of the bilge sump to the original copper strap with copper sheet was drilled and the copper wire from the keel was attached using a stainless steel bolt and nut.
The photos below show how we unscrewed the keel bolt nut with an extended 30mm socket with several extensions firmly bound together with Gorilla tape. We used 2 sided Gorilla tape inside the socket to ensure that the nut stayed inside the socket when unscrewed.
I hope that all can follow this and understand the photos.
Please ask if you have any queries.
I do hope that we don't get told that we have done this completely wrong.

Best Regards

Barry and Penny "Lady Penelope II"Inline imageInline imageInline imageInline imageInline imageInline imageInline imageInline image
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Rudi and Sabina. "Wasabi"
Amel 54's
Marina di Ragusa   Sicily

Re: Wind Generators

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Yes, no doubt a compromise for some but ofor us out here, we never take our awning down.

Actually on Island Pearl we have the complete (as new) original Amel supplied fold back awning permanently sitting under the new higher and wider one. The new one is done in a way that it is never removed.

We did not like the original one as it had no windows facing forwards above the cockpit hard top and was difficult to see the sails plus lacked decent air flow through the cockpit. Using the new one there is excellent viability and no need to remove.

Colin
SV Island Pearl II #332
Panama

On Mon, 6 May 2019, 02:20 Alan Leslie, <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Impressive !, but it means the cockpit is permanently covered...maybe not so bad these days !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Bill,

 

This is the reply from Dessalator (and quite quick there were too!):

 

Dear Paul,

 

Thank you for your inquiry.

 

If you run the unit without increasing the pressure, it is normal that it shuts after one minute.

 

The good procedure to flush the water maker when you return on your boat is to turn the rinsing valve located on the low pressure pump, but WITHOUT running the water maker.

 

You will find the procedure enclosed.

 

If you have any doubt, you can call for free our engineer, M. Martin de Jong, on Whatsapp. Please find enclosed his contact info.

 

With our best regards,

 

Nicolas Bouffartigue

Secretary Dessalator

 

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 06 May 2019 09:49
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: fitting bow

Barry Connor
 

I just chased up Sonja at Amel Hyeres again about the replacement for my 6mm bow furler connection. She assured me that they are making a new 10mm stem for me. Hope to be able to fit this in August when we visit Hyeres on our way to The Canaries prior to crossing.
Regards

Barry and Penny
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17. (2006)
Waiting for this Mistral to ease before we leave Marina di Ragusa for the last time.
Marina di Ragusa is highly recommended for winter stop overs.

On May 5, 2019, at 19:41, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Amelia
AML 54-019 2006



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Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Thanks Bill and Mark.

 

If the manual says it cuts out after 1 minute then I guess its working properly. However, in the past, whenever I have returned to the boat and recommissioned the watermaker, I have run it on no pressure for half as hour, on advice, to flush all the sterilant through before turning up the pressure, and have never experienced this shutdown after 1 minute. I will contact Dessalator as Bill has suggested and get back to you with their answer.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 06 May 2019 09:49
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Wind Generators

Alan Leslie
 

Impressive !, but it means the cockpit is permanently covered...maybe not so bad these days !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Thanks Mark. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Correct, sorry about that. 

Who knows? Possibly there is a soft switch and timer that activates the alarm when there is zero output flow. I would email Nicholas at contact"at"dessalator.com

You want to know, I need to know, and we likely have an audience that wants to also know. If you like, I'll email him. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, May 5, 2019, 9:03 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Bill,

 

The pressure was off – all the way anticlockwise -  so there should have been no water going through the membranes and therefore none getting to the TDS sensor.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 05 May 2019 19:31
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Paul,

 

I would say that if the TDS (Total Dissolved Sensor) is working you should get a RED light and shutdown because you certainly have a high TDS with the sterilizing solution in a bucket of water.

 

Best,

 

Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St.

Galveston, Texas 77550

832-380-4970

 

 

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:18 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I was flushing steriliser through my Dessalator, both hoses in a bucket of solution, no pressure, and it kept on cutting out after one minute with the red error light flashing. I just re-started it each time without any other problem, but it still cut out after every minute of operation. It never did that before. I’m curious – any ideas?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Bill,

 

The pressure was off – all the way anticlockwise -  so there should have been no water going through the membranes and therefore none getting to the TDS sensor.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 05 May 2019 19:31
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Paul,

 

I would say that if the TDS (Total Dissolved Sensor) is working you should get a RED light and shutdown because you certainly have a high TDS with the sterilizing solution in a bucket of water.

 

Best,

 

Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St.

Galveston, Texas 77550

832-380-4970

 

 

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:18 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I was flushing steriliser through my Dessalator, both hoses in a bucket of solution, no pressure, and it kept on cutting out after one minute with the red error light flashing. I just re-started it each time without any other problem, but it still cut out after every minute of operation. It never did that before. I’m curious – any ideas?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Bow chainplate

ngtnewington Newington
 

Some time ago I was asked if Amelia an Amel 54 Hull number 019 had the beefed up bow fitting onto which the forestay is attached. The answer is it is 10 mm. So yes.
Regards to all,

Nick, ready to leave Funchal bound for the Mediterranean tomorrow.

fitting bow

ngtnewington Newington
 

Amelia
AML 54-019 2006

Re: Wind Generators

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Here are a few pics today. Still experimenting with angles to sun so outer two panels tied on before bolting through, but note the aluminium welded bars between stays and again at rear between mizzen mast and stays.


On Sat, 4 May 2019, 08:07 Sailing Island Pearl, <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Hi Alan

We have 540w on the rear arch and 500w on top of cockpit area.

For the cockpit top I inherited and nicely welded/shaped aluminium bar from SM SV Oris which attaches to the two fwd mizzen stays. At the rear I have alumni bars from mizzen mast to rear mizzen stays.

Will send you a pic direct.

Great to have the serenity and peace of mind at anchorages when one sees other SM genders gurgling away seemingly endlessly.

On Sat, 4 May 2019, 03:56 Alan Leslie, <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Hi Colin,

What is your physical arrangement for mounting all these solar panels?
We have 600w on the arch and found we can mostly get away with running the Onan every second day, but we are certainly more frugal with electricity
Cheers
Alan

Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 
Edited

According to the Dessalator manual the system should shut down after one minute in this mode of operation.  See the excerpt from the manual below.

Fresh water should be always used with no pressure when going through the system (pressure dial turned all the way anti clockwise) and the system should always run with no pressure after a fresh water flush to dump all the fresh water that are in it, before making freshwater from sea water (also with the pressure dial all the way anti clockwise). When running the water maker with the dial all the way anti clockwise, it will shut itself down automatically after 1 minute. Only then, the water maker is ready for use.

When introducing the sterilizer you are operating in this condition.  I believe your system is operating correctly.  You will then go through the flush cycle when you put the system back into service.

Water will go through the membranes with the regulator turned all the way open "anti clockwise".  This position being the normal start position for the Dessalator which allows the high pressure pump to start with little to no head pressure.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing

 

Paul,

I would say that if the TDS (Total Dissolved Sensor) is working you should get a RED light and shutdown because you certainly have a high TDS with the sterilizing solution in a bucket of water.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:18 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I was flushing steriliser through my Dessalator, both hoses in a bucket of solution, no pressure, and it kept on cutting out after one minute with the red error light flashing. I just re-started it each time without any other problem, but it still cut out after every minute of operation. It never did that before. I’m curious – any ideas?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Dessalator cuts out when flushing

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi all,

 

I was flushing steriliser through my Dessalator, both hoses in a bucket of solution, no pressure, and it kept on cutting out after one minute with the red error light flashing. I just re-started it each time without any other problem, but it still cut out after every minute of operation. It never did that before. I’m curious – any ideas?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Capacitors for Climma A/C

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Alex,

 

I have bought various capacitors and they all work, as long as the capacitance and voltage are correct.

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alex Ramseyer
Sent: 25 April 2019 01:22
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Capacitors for Climma A/C

 

Dear Amelians,
I'm trying to source 2mf and 4 mf Capacitors for the onboard Climma A/C unit. I'm currently in Fort Lauderdale.
The technician from a local Climma representative told me it needs to be the original Italfarad- but has no stock.

What's the experience in this group. Does it really have to be Italfarad or will any other (available) capacitor with the correct specs work too?

Best regards,
Alex Ramseyer
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15
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Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Wind Generators

Teun BAAS
 

I have the Superwind on my solar arch very close to the aft Master cabin. No vibration nor noise at all. Very happy and it generates around 5Amps/hour here in the South Pacific.

 

Combined with 875 solar I am energy positive while sailing.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

Plage de PEDE  MARE  NEW CALEDONIA

May 5, 2019 21:34:31

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 16:51
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Wind Generators

 

My Superwind does not create any noises or vibrations.  It is attached to the mizzen mast via a decoupling device that does not transmit vibrations.   It is expensive, though.  

 

Joerg Esdorn

A55 #53

Kincsem

 

Re: Wind Generators

Nicolas Klene
 

Hi Colin 
I would love to see the picture of your solar arrangement too if possible !
more than 1Kwatt of solar power , has to be seen :-))
safe passage 
nick