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Re: Outhaul-furler motor shaft failure
Thanks for the info Gary. I shall report if I hear from Maud, and whatever other solution we come up with in the event that Amel no longer has access to this assembly. Mike
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Silver via Groups.Io
Hi Mike: When my SM, a 2001 #335, was about 4 years old the main sail furling gearbox motor shaft sheared for unknown reasons. Ray Eaton, Joel's Ft. Lauderdale guru at the time, (about 2005) said he had not seen that happen before. I have not had this happen again despite the boat being now about 18 years old (but then I have only sailed her about 18,000 sea miles during that time). About two years ago I ordered a complete assembly (gearbox, motor, mounting ring and cover) from Maud as I realized that even though I had several spare gearboxes I didn't have a spare motor. That entire assembly was available from Amel at that time. Gary S. Silver
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Re: Outhaul-furler motor shaft failure
Gary Silver
Hi Mike: When my SM, a 2001 #335, was about 4 years old the main sail furling gearbox motor shaft sheared for unknown reasons. Ray Eaton, Joel's Ft. Lauderdale guru at the time, (about 2005) said he had not seen that happen before. I have not had this happen again despite the boat being now about 18 years old (but then I have only sailed her about 18,000 sea miles during that time). About two years ago I ordered a complete assembly (gearbox, motor, mounting ring and cover) from Maud as I realized that even though I had several spare gearboxes I didn't have a spare motor. That entire assembly was available from Amel at that time. Gary S. Silver
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Re: Outhaul-furler motor shaft failure
Upon disassembly of the gear box I found that the top furler gearbox main bearing had seized. This could well have been the origin of the shaft failure. These gear boxes being mounted with the shaft vertical are subject to water intrusion from above. I saw similar but not as severe deterioration on the outhaul gearbox several years ago when I rebuilt it. This bearing is above and probably not receiving grease, so even with the grease nipple configuration may be vulnerable. It might be a good idea at several year intervals to take apart the gearbox to check and possibly replace this bearing. They cost less than $20. Strategies to keep water off the top of these gearboxes would be helpful however difficult they may be to execute.
Anyway replacement of the Leroy Somers motor seems to be a problem. It appears that this model is no longer in production, there is no inventory, and they do not have a replacement with these specs. I have not as of yet heard from Maud if Amel may have this motor. Searching for a like spec/dimension motor on the internet gets close, but not perfect, matches relative to hp/Kw, rpm, Intrusion Protection, Insulation, shaft diameter/length, etc.
BTW, the manual furling system works quite well, but obviously not convenient.
Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240 Rock Hall, MD
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 6:51 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Outhaul-furler motor shaft failure
We have now had the second Leroy Somer motor shaft shear off where in enters the gearbox. First the outhaul 2 years ago, and now the mainsail furler. Sheared at same location. Rust evidence of possible stress crack that eventually left maybe 10%-15% of the shaft in tact that then sheared off. Aletes is 20 years old. Has anyone else experienced this? Had a spare for the first failure, now sourcing a replacement for the second failure. Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240 Chesapeake Bay
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Re: Any news about the 3D printed Toe pulley (headsail)
Red1 Stella SM359
Mark,
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a bit late but I just wanted to say that the sheaves are installed on Stella SM359 and worked perfectly even under tension. No issue at all; AND they look GREAT! Thank you very much for your support and your sharing the details of the machinist! We should look at getting further SS things from him! Redouan SM 359 Stella
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Re: 24V electrical connection of Duo D 100 BY Dessalator
Hi Alex,
I made the enclosed pictures just before the overhaul I did on mine. In my case I did remove the whole unit. Quite some weightlifting involved doing that. Mine was badly corroded because of poor initial assembly (leaking hose attachments). I made the picture to remember how things were connected. Make sure you also replace the oil in the pump as it gets affected by the salt in the water after some time. Hope this helps Arno SV Luna, A54-121
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Toe pulley
jlm@jlmertz.fr
It posted some month ago a post abour "Beranrd" TOE PULLEY.I had tested his pulleys and they seemed to work properly.
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Re: BETA Motors
Alex, I negotiated a discount on the Beta 85 for my Amel clients. Email me at brouse at gmail.com for more info. There are a few things I had Beta test like the previous Beta requirement of increasing the diameter of the exhaust hose. Beta found that the Amel 54 Volvo exhaust hose is an approved diameter. Prior to that test Beta insisted on an increased size hose. Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
On Tue, May 7, 2019, 12:21 AM Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...> wrote:
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BETA Motors
Am 06.05.19, 04:44, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> schrieb:
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24V electrical connection of Duo D 100 BY Dessalator
Am 06.05.19, 03:27, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> schrieb:
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Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54
Re: Bonding Earthing Connection to Keel. We have completed the re-attachment of the earth bonding keel strap to Amel 54 "Lady Penelope II" and Amel 54 "Wasabi" here at Marina di Ragusa. Rudi and I used copper earthing wire that you would find in building construction. We put lug connectors on each end and covered the copper wire with heat shrink rubber/pvc tube, then sealed both ends with rubber/pvc liquid wire seal. The reason that we sealed the copper wire was we saw how the copper strap had just been corroded away by the bilge water. The sealing of the complete length of the copper wire was to make sure that no moisture/bilge water got into the copper wire from either end. We were able to attach the bottom of the copper wire to the keel bolt using a copper earth pole lug which we attached using a stainless steel bolt and nut with lock tight. The 30mm nut firmly secured this to the keel bolt. The earth bonding wires from the boat connected at the top of the bilge sump to the original copper strap with copper sheet was drilled and the copper wire from the keel was attached using a stainless steel bolt and nut. The photos below show how we unscrewed the keel bolt nut with an extended 30mm socket with several extensions firmly bound together with Gorilla tape. We used 2 sided Gorilla tape inside the socket to ensure that the nut stayed inside the socket when unscrewed. I hope that all can follow this and understand the photos. Please ask if you have any queries. I do hope that we don't get told that we have done this completely wrong. Best Regards Barry and Penny "Lady Penelope II" Rudi and Sabina. "Wasabi" Amel 54's Marina di Ragusa Sicily
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Re: Wind Generators
Yes, no doubt a compromise for some but ofor us out here, we never take our awning down. Actually on Island Pearl we have the complete (as new) original Amel supplied fold back awning permanently sitting under the new higher and wider one. The new one is done in a way that it is never removed. We did not like the original one as it had no windows facing forwards above the cockpit hard top and was difficult to see the sails plus lacked decent air flow through the cockpit. Using the new one there is excellent viability and no need to remove. Colin SV Island Pearl II #332 Panama
On Mon, 6 May 2019, 02:20 Alan Leslie, <s.v.elyse@...> wrote: Impressive !, but it means the cockpit is permanently covered...maybe not so bad these days !
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Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Bill,
This is the reply from Dessalator (and quite quick there were too!):
Dear Paul,
Thank you for your inquiry.
If you run the unit without increasing the pressure, it is normal that it shuts after one minute.
The good procedure to flush the water maker when you return on your boat is to turn the rinsing valve located on the low pressure pump, but WITHOUT running the water maker.
You will find the procedure enclosed.
If you have any doubt, you can call for free our engineer, M. Martin de Jong, on Whatsapp. Please find enclosed his contact info.
With our best regards,
Nicolas Bouffartigue Secretary Dessalator
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Thanks Mark. Best,
On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: fitting bow
I just chased up Sonja at Amel Hyeres again about the replacement for my 6mm bow furler connection. She assured me that they are making a new 10mm stem for me. Hope to be able to fit this in August when we visit Hyeres on our way to The Canaries prior to crossing.
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Regards Barry and Penny “Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. #17. (2006) Waiting for this Mistral to ease before we leave Marina di Ragusa for the last time. Marina di Ragusa is highly recommended for winter stop overs.
On May 5, 2019, at 19:41, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Thanks Bill and Mark.
If the manual says it cuts out after 1 minute then I guess its working properly. However, in the past, whenever I have returned to the boat and recommissioned the watermaker, I have run it on no pressure for half as hour, on advice, to flush all the sterilant through before turning up the pressure, and have never experienced this shutdown after 1 minute. I will contact Dessalator as Bill has suggested and get back to you with their answer.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Thanks Mark. Best,
On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Wind Generators
Impressive !, but it means the cockpit is permanently covered...maybe not so bad these days !
Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing
Thanks Mark. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, May 6, 2019, 2:38 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:
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Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing
Correct, sorry about that. Who knows? Possibly there is a soft switch and timer that activates the alarm when there is zero output flow. I would email Nicholas at contact"at"dessalator.com You want to know, I need to know, and we likely have an audience that wants to also know. If you like, I'll email him. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sun, May 5, 2019, 9:03 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:
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Re: Dessalator cuts out when flushing
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Bill,
The pressure was off – all the way anticlockwise - so there should have been no water going through the membranes and therefore none getting to the TDS sensor.
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Paul,
I would say that if the TDS (Total Dissolved Sensor) is working you should get a RED light and shutdown because you certainly have a high TDS with the sterilizing solution in a bucket of water.
On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:18 PM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Bow chainplate
Some time ago I was asked if Amelia an Amel 54 Hull number 019 had the beefed up bow fitting onto which the forestay is attached. The answer is it is 10 mm. So yes.
Regards to all, Nick, ready to leave Funchal bound for the Mediterranean tomorrow.
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fitting bow
Amelia
AML 54-019 2006
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