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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Kent, since you are going to need to repaint the repaint I again advise blow torch heat and the shaft will slip out. Since my disaster 10 years ago with the big man, big puller and big hammer (in the face of my request for heat) resulting in a broken case I have coated the shaft with lanacote (a natural product from the coat of sheep) and never had a problem again. So Kent I advise a professional with a specialist heat torch and when it all together again, lanacote or similar. I draw mine every few months. It takes no time and saves a whole lot of grief.

Good luck

Danny

On 11 May 2019 at 19:30 Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Kent,
I have never seen an arrangement like that on the boom of a Super Maramu.
The original metal frame with 4 bolts through it to the gearbox is necessary to counter act the torque produced by the motor gearbox combination, especially when you are tightening the outhaul to flatten the foot of the main, plastic doesn't make it.
Sorry, but I would recommend that the boom be returned to the original configuration with the complete metal frame.
WRT to getting the shaft out ...that's a common problem, because of the salt water ingress through the top gearbox seal.
Maybe take the boom off and take it to an engineering shop that can press it out, and then clean off the shaft so it fits easily and coat it with Never Seize when reinstalling it.
BUT I really think you need to have that gearbox support rebuilt as per the original.
In any event your new paint will need redoing. 
Sorry
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Re: Toe pulley

Alan Leslie
 

Jean-Luc,
I have seen the same issue today....it doesn't hold, even though I tested at the dock, with water and re-tensioning, all seemed OK.
I already ordered a set of stainless pulleys from Mark McGovern which i believe have arrived already.
next visit to Elyse will see them installed.
Best
Alan 
Elyse SM437


Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K

Alan Leslie
 

Kent,
I have never seen an arrangement like that on the boom of a Super Maramu.
The original metal frame with 4 bolts through it to the gearbox is necessary to counter act the torque produced by the motor gearbox combination, especially when you are tightening the outhaul to flatten the foot of the main, plastic doesn't make it.
Sorry, but I would recommend that the boom be returned to the original configuration with the complete metal frame.
WRT to getting the shaft out ...that's a common problem, because of the salt water ingress through the top gearbox seal.
Maybe take the boom off and take it to an engineering shop that can press it out, and then clean off the shaft so it fits easily and coat it with Never Seize when reinstalling it.
BUT I really think you need to have that gearbox support rebuilt as per the original.
In any event your new paint will need redoing. 
Sorry
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Re: Model Name Typeface on Toe Rail

Steven Bode - SV Intention 1994-SM#117
 

Thanks for the heads up, Rink! I'll email them.
-Bode


Re: Volvo D3-110 belt changes

Barry Connor
 

Hi Alex,
My large additional alternator is on the Port side with extra pulleys attached to the engine. On the later 54’s the additional alternator is on the Starboard side and uses the engine belt.
If you have the same as me then my last set of belts only lasted 400 hrs, supplied by Volvo mechanic HYERES but not Volvo parts. I have just bought better quality Gates belts and I think these will last longer. Let me know if you need the size, details.

Best Regards

Barry
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17
Pilos - Sailing Greece 


On May 9, 2019, at 02:28, Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...> wrote:

The alternator belt on my Volvo D3 lasts ca 300h. In the French manual that I have onboard, it sais this belt should last 1200h. What's the experience in this group?

According to a certified Volvo technician from a Volvo dealer here in FLA, the TIMER BELT should last 1500h. I was about ready to change after 800h based on the advice from the former owner. What is the experience of this group in regards to the timing belt?

Also, if someone knows which exact special tool I need to change myself and where to get that, would be great!
Thank you for your advice.
Alex
SY NO STRESS 
AMEL54#15


Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K

Leopold Hauer
 

You can install a heli coil. Google it

Leopold  
YinYang SM69 Papeete

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 10.05.2019 um 11:33 schrieb karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...>:

Hi all,
I had my masts and booms painted last Fall, and had a helluva time getting the outhaul shaft out.  The yard ended up breaking the cover plate of the gearbox, so I bought a new gearbox and motor from Amel (they wouldn’t sell me a new cover plate). I asked that they grease the shaft well with NeverSeize, and they said they did.  The bracket isn’t like the one pictured here<513CDD0A-5A9B-4522-BFA3-AECE37E6FA00.jpeg>, just two tabs welded to the boom, with a black plastic connector that bolts to the gearbox, and in turn bolts to the tabs on the boom.  After a few months I noticed the motor and gearbox moving when furling the main, and discovered the forward bolt holding the black plastic part to the tab on the boom was almost completely out.  I screwed it back in, but the black plastic part has stripped threads and it won’t hold.


Now, 6 months after installing the new gearbox and motor, I want to replace the black plastic connector, but I can’t get the shaft to budge.  I’ve tried tapping on a bolt in the bottom of the shaft while putting wedges between the boom and black plastic.  With seals in place, I’m not confident any PB Blaster would make its way down the shaft.  The way it’s attached to the boom doesn’t allow for a puller (pusher in this case) to fit between the gearbox and the boom.  It’s only about 1/8” with the plastic part down as far as it will go.  See pic below.

Have you seen anyone remove the shaft with this installment configuration?  Some special tool that will work?  I hate to put something across the boom with the new paint job.

Thanks for any ideas.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Main Outhaul early SM 2K

karkauai
 

Hi all,
I had my masts and booms painted last Fall, and had a helluva time getting the outhaul shaft out.  The yard ended up breaking the cover plate of the gearbox, so I bought a new gearbox and motor from Amel (they wouldn’t sell me a new cover plate). I asked that they grease the shaft well with NeverSeize, and they said they did.  The bracket isn’t like the one pictured here, just two tabs welded to the boom, with a black plastic connector that bolts to the gearbox, and in turn bolts to the tabs on the boom.  After a few months I noticed the motor and gearbox moving when furling the main, and discovered the forward bolt holding the black plastic part to the tab on the boom was almost completely out.  I screwed it back in, but the black plastic part has stripped threads and it won’t hold.


Now, 6 months after installing the new gearbox and motor, I want to replace the black plastic connector, but I can’t get the shaft to budge.  I’ve tried tapping on a bolt in the bottom of the shaft while putting wedges between the boom and black plastic.  With seals in place, I’m not confident any PB Blaster would make its way down the shaft.  The way it’s attached to the boom doesn’t allow for a puller (pusher in this case) to fit between the gearbox and the boom.  It’s only about 1/8” with the plastic part down as far as it will go.  See pic below.

Have you seen anyone remove the shaft with this installment configuration?  Some special tool that will work?  I hate to put something across the boom with the new paint job.

Thanks for any ideas.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: Volvo D3-110 belt changes

Alexander Ramseyer
 

The pulley that used to be on my Volvo has been changed to another model by a certified Volvo service shop in St. Martin 2 years ago. The change didn't impact the lifetime of my alternator belts.

In regards to the timing belt, based on the answer I received, I now think 1200h should be o.k., so I don't need to do this now at 800. If someone has pics and / sources to get the special tools, I'd appreciate. 

fair winds
Alex
SY NO STRESS 


Re: Pasarelle on 54

Peter Forbes
 

Dear Arno,

Can I communicate with you by e- mail on your passerelle as I have a bad problem with mine.
I am on ppsforbes’at’gmsil.com.

Peter
Peter Forbes
AMEL 54035
La Rochelle 

On Fri, 10 May 2019 at 14:01, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

If all goes well I can tell you later today. They are going to replace the Opacmare passerelle  today after 4 months in repair (!). In the meantime, here is a picture of the ends of the rope.

Regards,

Arno





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+44 (0) 7836 209730


Re: Pasarelle on 54

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Bill,

If all goes well I can tell you later today. They are going to replace the Opacmare passerelle today after 4 months in repair (!). In the meantime, here is a picture of the ends of the rope.

Regards,

Arno


Re: Model Name Typeface on Toe Rail

Rink De Haan
 

Hi Steve

You can also check with Amel. The might still have the replacement stickers. 
I bought a set a couple of years ago. 

BTW. They will also receive a new batch of the Leroy somer electrical motors for the outhaul system 

Regards 
Rink de Haan
Amel SM2K #330


Van: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io namens Steven Bode <steve@...>
Verzonden: vrijdag, mei 10, 2019 7:37 AM
Aan: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Onderwerp: [AmelYachtOwners] Model Name Typeface on Toe Rail
 
Friends,
I have repainted Intention. The Toe Rail used to have the model name on it near the stern. I want to replace that model name. Does anyone know what the typeface is for the Model Name "SUPER MARAMU" on the toe rail? Can anyone tell me what typeface they used when they guessed? Would be so grateful.
-Bode
SV Intention
1994 Super Maramu #117


Satellite communications

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Hi all,

 

I have a KVH Tracphone V7 and want to replace it with something cheaper and smaller, probably an Iridium system. I have two questions:

 

Would anyone be interested in buying my KVH, or know where in the southern Caribbean I can sell it?

 

Can anyone recommend a replacement system. My needs are for a backup system (I’m usually on long range wifi) and a system for getting weather and email/internet whilst out of range of land based systems. I basically need full internet functionality, on my laptop, for short periods at a time on a regular basis, say, 3 or 4 times a day.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Model Name Typeface on Toe Rail

Steven Bode - SV Intention 1994-SM#117
 

Friends,
I have repainted Intention. The Toe Rail used to have the model name on it near the stern. I want to replace that model name. Does anyone know what the typeface is for the Model Name "SUPER MARAMU" on the toe rail? Can anyone tell me what typeface they used when they guessed? Would be so grateful.
-Bode
SV Intention
1994 Super Maramu #117


Re: Volvo D3-110 belt changes

 

Alex,

Write JEFFREY KRAUS <jmkraus"at"optonline.net>. I believe that he found Volvo installed the wrong pulley. Please post what you find.

 
Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 8:37 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Alex,

if your alternator belt is wearing it is highly likely you have belt slip. Check your tension. Other than an unlikely substandard belt it has to be slip.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 09 May 2019 at 18:28 Denis Elborn <delborn@...> wrote:

Alex,

It does seem a short time for the alternator belt, age is also a factor. At least you can see it and determine when to replace it unlike the timing belt.

Volvo sell two special tools, one needed and one nice to have. The needed one is a special puller to get the bottom pulley off of the crankshaft and the nice one is fitted to the bottom pulley to stop the engine rotating. Instead you can remove the starter motor and jamb something in there to stop the flywheel rotating, a bit crude but it will work.

IMO it is worth replacing the tensioner, idle pulley and water pump when doing the belt replacement. Volvo sell a kit excluding the water pump.

Denis
Aventura A54-113
Cleopatra marina -Greece



 

On 9 May 2019, at 12:28 am, Alex Ramseyer < alexramseyer@...> wrote:

The alternator belt on my Volvo D3 lasts ca 300h. In the French manual that I have onboard, it sais this belt should last 1200h. What's the experience in this group?

According to a certified Volvo technician from a Volvo dealer here in FLA, the TIMER BELT should last 1500h. I was about ready to change after 800h based on the advice from the former owner. What is the experience of this group in regards to the timing belt?

Also, if someone knows which exact special tool I need to change myself and where to get that, would be great!
Thank you for your advice.
Alex
SY NO STRESS 
AMEL54#15


 


 


Re: Volvo D3-110 belt changes

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Alex,

if your alternator belt is wearing it is highly likely you have belt slip. Check your tension. Other than an unlikely substandard belt it has to be slip.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 09 May 2019 at 18:28 Denis Elborn <delborn@...> wrote:

Alex,

It does seem a short time for the alternator belt, age is also a factor. At least you can see it and determine when to replace it unlike the timing belt.

Volvo sell two special tools, one needed and one nice to have. The needed one is a special puller to get the bottom pulley off of the crankshaft and the nice one is fitted to the bottom pulley to stop the engine rotating. Instead you can remove the starter motor and jamb something in there to stop the flywheel rotating, a bit crude but it will work.

IMO it is worth replacing the tensioner, idle pulley and water pump when doing the belt replacement. Volvo sell a kit excluding the water pump.

Denis
Aventura A54-113
Cleopatra marina -Greece



 

On 9 May 2019, at 12:28 am, Alex Ramseyer < alexramseyer@...> wrote:

The alternator belt on my Volvo D3 lasts ca 300h. In the French manual that I have onboard, it sais this belt should last 1200h. What's the experience in this group?

According to a certified Volvo technician from a Volvo dealer here in FLA, the TIMER BELT should last 1500h. I was about ready to change after 800h based on the advice from the former owner. What is the experience of this group in regards to the timing belt?

Also, if someone knows which exact special tool I need to change myself and where to get that, would be great!
Thank you for your advice.
Alex
SY NO STRESS 
AMEL54#15


 


 


Re: Volvo D3-110 belt changes

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

The service manual I have says 1400 hours for the timing belt but makes no mention of the alternator belt.

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Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Pasarelle on 54

Dimitris Krasopoulos
 

I have not yet replaced it 

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 17:12 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
How have 54 owners replaced the hand rope?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

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Dimitris Krasopoulos
Dubai Mob: +971 564602575
Greek Mob:+306944302318


Pasarelle on 54

 

How have 54 owners replaced the hand rope?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

Alan Leslie
 

5 years ago we replaced the broken copper strap on Elyse using Bills diagram as a guide, but from 1/4" X 2" solid copper.
Followed the instructions with socket and extensions to get the old strap out.
Drilled and threaded holes for all the bonding wires.
Installed the bonding strap to the keel bolt.
Stripped the bonding wires back to bare copper, new lugs and bolted them to the copper strap.
5 years on looks as good as new.
AND no bonding issues.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Re: Toe pulley

Alan Leslie
 

Jean Luc,

Are you using Vectran ?..and have you retensioned it after some time and getting wet ?
I have had success so far, but no really tough wind yet to do a good test.

Best
ALAN
Elyse SM437