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Electric Motor for SM main outhaul/furler
David Vogel
Greetings,
AMEL France just filled an order for a spare electric motor and gearbox for the SM Main Outhaul/Furler. The electric motor is a little different to what I expected. Please see the silver motor in the photos attached (the one with the small gauge red and black wires). What I was expecting to see was a motor as per SM#335, which is what I have on Perigee. Does anyone know if the silver unit as supplied is a 'drop-in' replacement? Or do I need to re-order and obtain the 'old style"? (I am writing to Maude but, being the weekend, thought it quicker to check with the forum.) Thanks in anticipation. David SM#396/Perigee Panama, almost prepped for French Polynesia
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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K
Thanks again, Eric and John. I’ve been hearing about all the problems with removing the Outhaul shaft, and now have the same problem. Others have suggested it was because the shaft seal is vertical and prone to water intrusion. When mine was removed with great difficulty, I found the shaft had rusted and salt was everywhere. That was about two years after I had rebuilt the previous one that had lasted many years. I had been putting silicone grease on the upper seal every few months for those two years. Now after only six months with a new gearbox, it’s stuck again, despite NeverSieze and grease on the outside of the seal every 2 months.
I need to find a better way... Kent SM 243 Kristy
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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K
John Clark
Kent, Annie SM 37 has the same arrangement, though with bonfig gears. I disassembled mine a couple of years ago but did not have any issues so can't help you there, just wanted to let you know that the arrangement is OEM. Regards,. John SV Annie SM 37 Brunswick GA
On Fri, May 10, 2019, 5:33 PM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Hi all,
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Re: Toe pulley
jlm@jlmertz.fr
Alan, Do you have an Idea of the price of the Stainless pulleys ? Would it be possible to buy this ? Merci Jean Luc Le 11/05/2019 à 09:35, Alan Leslie a
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Jean-Luc,
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Re: Toe pulley
jlm@jlmertz.fr
Hello Alan, I use dyneeman (from AMEL), For 6 month ago I tensioned It very strong .... it work to 30 kn wind ... but after 6 month it is not able to maintain 100kg tension .... I thing we must absolutely ad some cavils .... JL MERTZ on Cottonbay
Le 09/05/2019 à 11:19, Alan Leslie a
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Jean Luc,
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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Hi Kent, I grease the gearboxes 4 times a year and have not had a problem with water. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 12:16 AM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Main Outhaul early SM 2K
Hi Eric, I read that in one of your earlier posts. I’ll definitely do that.
Has anyone come up with a good way to keep water from getting into the gearbox from above? I remember someone posting about a soda bottle cut off and placed above the gearbox with the shaft coming through the bottle was that you José? How has that worked? I’ve been greasing the upper shaft seal, but wonder if that’s really doing anything.
Thanks Kent SM 243 Kristy Kent Robertson
Hi Kent, When you finally get the shaft. I would suggest you take a few thousands of an inch off the keyway, both in height and width. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Leslie
Kent,
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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K
Hi Eric, I read that in one of your earlier posts. I’ll definitely do that.
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Has anyone come up with a good way to keep water from getting into the gearbox from above? I remember someone posting about a soda bottle cut off and placed above the gearbox with the shaft coming through the bottle was that you José? How has that worked? I’ve been greasing the upper shaft seal, but wonder if that’s really doing anything. Thanks Kent SM 243
On May 11, 2019, at 9:57 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
Hi Kent, When you finally get the shaft. I would suggest you take a few thousands of an inch off the keyway, both in height and width. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Leslie
Kent,
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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Hi Kent, When you finally get the shaft. I would suggest you take a few thousands of an inch off the keyway, both in height and width. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Leslie
Kent,
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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K
I don’t have stripped threads...yet. Not sure what I’d do with a helicoil??? Kent
On May 11, 2019, at 6:58 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:
Thank you all who responded. I’m thinking of fashioning a “pusher” tool that would have plates with holes in them. The upper plate would fit over the line handler on top of the boom. The lower plate would hold a large nut welded over the hole, under the gearbox. The plates would be held in place, connected by 4 long bolts and separated from the new paint job by heavy hard-rubber sheeting. A bolt would screw up through the nut and press the shaft out from below. What is the downside to this cockamamie idea?
Kent Robertson Kent, As always, many ways to skin a cat, and the heli coil is a great suggestion, although a new block could easily be made. Taking the boom to a machine shop with a press will certainly work and save the paint job if they carefully block it with wood and cloth before pressing. Your mounting configuration with the two aluminum tangs is identical to mine and, I'm sure, was original; perhaps Amel changed that design to a metal frame somewhere along the way (Alan's hull #437 is much later in the production run, I think), but yours will easily get you around the world next year, or at least to the South Pacific, and then, who cares? Cheers, Craig SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K
Thank you all who responded. I’m thinking of fashioning a “pusher” tool that would have plates with holes in them. The upper plate would fit over the line handler on top of the boom. The lower plate would hold a large nut welded over the hole, under the gearbox. The plates would be held in place, connected by 4 long bolts and separated from the new paint job by heavy hard-rubber sheeting. A bolt would screw up through the nut and press the shaft out from below.
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What is the downside to this cockamamie idea? Kent Robertson
On May 11, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Craig Briggs via Groups.Io <sangaris@...> wrote:
Kent, As always, many ways to skin a cat, and the heli coil is a great suggestion, although a new block could easily be made. Taking the boom to a machine shop with a press will certainly work and save the paint job if they carefully block it with wood and cloth before pressing. Your mounting configuration with the two aluminum tangs is identical to mine and, I'm sure, was original; perhaps Amel changed that design to a metal frame somewhere along the way (Alan's hull #437 is much later in the production run, I think), but yours will easily get you around the world next year, or at least to the South Pacific, and then, who cares? Cheers, Craig SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Onan exhaust
Hello fellow Amel owners,
I was surprised to see a salt water drip, actually quite a big drip from the aft end of my Onan generator. With only 80 hours on it! There is a small pin hole on the weld but looking down the tube it looks like it was made from two tubes welded together not one tube with the plate welded onto it. This is poor after only 80 hrs running and whenever I leave the boat the gender is run on freshwater for a few minutes. Easily fixed as I had a spare tube salvaged from the old generator. Nick Amelia (AML-54 -019) Gibraltar after lovely gentle passage from Madeira
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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K
Kent, As always, many ways to skin a cat, and the heli coil is a great suggestion, although a new block could easily be made. Taking the boom to a machine shop with a press will certainly work and save the paint job if they carefully block it with wood and cloth before pressing. Your mounting configuration with the two aluminum tangs is identical to mine and, I'm sure, was original; perhaps Amel changed that design to a metal frame somewhere along the way (Alan's hull #437 is much later in the production run, I think), but yours will easily get you around the world next year, or at least to the South Pacific, and then, who cares?
Cheers, Craig SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Re: Model Name Typeface on Toe Rail
There is an app (don't know name) which will tell you the font using your camera to scan. Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Fri, May 10, 2019, 8:37 AM Steven Bode <steve@...> wrote: Friends,
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Re: Pasarelle on 54
Thanks, Arno. Keep me posted. Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sat, May 11, 2019, 2:05 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote: Hi Bill,
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Re: Pasarelle on 54
Hi Bill,
The rope is held by grub-screws into some stubs that sit on either end of the passerelle and at the ends of the poles the raise the rope when the passerelle is extended. Part of the rope has elastic shock-cord inside. If that is worn out I think you can only order a new one as the end-pieces on the rope are non-removable. There is a Opacmare dealer in the US if I remember correctly. Cheers, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Kent, since you are going to need to repaint the repaint I again advise blow torch heat and the shaft will slip out. Since my disaster 10 years ago with the big man, big puller and big hammer (in the face of my request for heat) resulting in a broken case I have coated the shaft with lanacote (a natural product from the coat of sheep) and never had a problem again. So Kent I advise a professional with a specialist heat torch and when it all together again, lanacote or similar. I draw mine every few months. It takes no time and saves a whole lot of grief. Good luck Danny
On 11 May 2019 at 19:30 Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
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Re: Toe pulley
Jean-Luc,
I have seen the same issue today....it doesn't hold, even though I tested at the dock, with water and re-tensioning, all seemed OK. I already ordered a set of stainless pulleys from Mark McGovern which i believe have arrived already. next visit to Elyse will see them installed. Best Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Main Outhaul early SM 2K
Kent,
I have never seen an arrangement like that on the boom of a Super Maramu. The original metal frame with 4 bolts through it to the gearbox is necessary to counter act the torque produced by the motor gearbox combination, especially when you are tightening the outhaul to flatten the foot of the main, plastic doesn't make it. Sorry, but I would recommend that the boom be returned to the original configuration with the complete metal frame. WRT to getting the shaft out ...that's a common problem, because of the salt water ingress through the top gearbox seal. Maybe take the boom off and take it to an engineering shop that can press it out, and then clean off the shaft so it fits easily and coat it with Never Seize when reinstalling it. BUT I really think you need to have that gearbox support rebuilt as per the original. In any event your new paint will need redoing. Sorry Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Model Name Typeface on Toe Rail
Thanks for the heads up, Rink! I'll email them.
-Bode
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Re: Volvo D3-110 belt changes
Hi Alex,
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My large additional alternator is on the Port side with extra pulleys attached to the engine. On the later 54’s the additional alternator is on the Starboard side and uses the engine belt. If you have the same as me then my last set of belts only lasted 400 hrs, supplied by Volvo mechanic HYERES but not Volvo parts. I have just bought better quality Gates belts and I think these will last longer. Let me know if you need the size, details. Best Regards Barry “Lady Penelope II” Amel 54. #17 Pilos - Sailing Greece
On May 9, 2019, at 02:28, Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...> wrote:
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, just two tabs welded to the boom, with a black plastic connector that bolts to the gearbox, and in turn bolts to the tabs on the boom. After a few months I noticed the motor and gearbox moving when furling the main, and discovered the forward bolt holding the black plastic part to the tab on the boom was almost completely out. I screwed it back in, but the black plastic part has stripped threads and it won’t hold.