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Re: Jib Stay Guide inside Furler

 

Steve,

I made a typo...see the revised:
I refer to those as swivel stay bushings, but I am not sure if that is the correct term. During reassembly, those two plastic pieces are to be inserted around the forestay wire when it has been put in place in the gearbox. Insert those plastic parts from the top of the gearbox, on each side of the wire.

Sorry about that. I answered your query on Facebook correctly.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 9:29 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Steve 


I refer to those as swivel stay bushings, but I am not sure if that is the correct term. 


During reassembly, those two plastic pieces are to be inserted around the forestay wire when it has been put in place in the swivel. Insert those plastic parts from the top of the swivel, on each side of the wire. This procedure is in my Amel Book and was contributed, in part, by Jonas & Annsofie Svanberg, owners of the very well maintained SM #232 "Lady Annila."


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Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 3:41 AM Steve Bode <Whatsup@...> wrote:
HELP. Where do these go?! I'm sure they go in the Jib furler, but I missed putting them in! 

IMG_3344.jpg
IMG_3345.jpg

I was sure that I would not miss how they went back in, but sure as s&%# I did! The furler is now back together and on the stay. I'm prepping to remove the stay and turnbuckle in anticipation of having to remove the furler to put these guys back in where they are supposed to be. 



Steve Bode, Captain of Sailing Vessel Intention
Currently Drydocked at ANT Yat Servis
Bodrum Marina Teknik Servisler
Neyzen Tevfik Cad. No. 5
48400 Bodrum, Mulga, Turkiye

Amel Super Maramu #117 (1994) 
+1 415-710-6659 voice/text/whatsapp

--
Steve Bode
Capt. SV Intention
Amel SM #117 (1994)
+1 415 710-6659 Mobile/Text/WhatsApp
facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
svintention.com


locked Re: AMEL 55

 

Joerg,

Are you tall enough to bang the Mizzen Boom?

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 9:40 AM Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Not true.  I’m just tall enough to bang into the mizzen   sheet - usually with speed.  Still looking to buy your ingenious gas valve ....


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

 

In many cases, with high pressure from the dock, overflow will come out of the manual float gauge tube in SMs and 54s.

By alarm, I meant that I set a timer to remind me to check. Once I did this, I never had an overflow again.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 8:43 AM Gerhard Mueller via Groups.Io <carcode=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:32 PM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown wrote:
I also thought about doing that but then a) what happens when the tank is full and you’re using the Dessalator so the filler is also closed, where does the water go? And b) how do you know when its full?
a) My Amel Sharki #60 does not have a Dessalator.
b) I only close the level pipe as shown in the photos when refilling the water tank. The other times I see the water level by the unblocked level pipe. The usual overflow is the open refill connector when refilling. The overflow goes into the cockpit.

Quite easy and so I never have had any problems.
 
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


locked Re: AMEL 55

Joerg Esdorn
 

Not true.  I’m just tall enough to bang into the mizzen   sheet - usually with speed.  Still looking to buy your ingenious gas valve ....


Re: Cracks on Keel - Amel Super Maramu (1997)

 

What is the hull number or complete HIN of this Amel? Do you have its location and name? This damage looks familiar, but I cannot place the particular SM.

First, I would ask the owner for a complete disclosure. If you cannot get a complete written disclosure, I recommend that you move on.

Second, it is difficult to see anything because of the numerous layers of antifouling. The owner should have never allowed layers of antifouling to accumulate. Possibly this gives you a clue of the level of care this SM has received. 

Third, after you have full disclosure from the owner, if you want to proceed, hire Olivier Beaute <olivierbeaute@...> for a complete survey and follow his recommendations in the survey report.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 8:27 AM Stephen Hancock via Groups.Io <sammie.whammie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
It took a hit. Needs to be delaminated a little to see how far the trouble is and decide how far to go to repair. Maybe just a localized area. Needs a expert to check out the whole keel attachment.

On May 27, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Jarek Zemlo <zemlo.jarek@...> wrote:

Hello to All,

I found Amel SM (1997) that I like to purchase. I had first look yesterday and what is working me mostly is a crack on the keel, front edge with some rust coming out (see pictures). Is this a sign of water penetrating inside the laminate and corrosion of steel and bolts? Anyone with similar experience and advice? Best regards Jarek
--
Jarek Zemlo


Re: Jib Stay Guide inside Furler

 


Steve 


I refer to those as swivel stay bushings, but I am not sure if that is the correct term. 


During reassembly, those two plastic pieces are to be inserted around the forestay wire when it has been put in place in the swivel. Insert those plastic parts from the top of the swivel, on each side of the wire. This procedure is in my Amel Book and was contributed, in part, by Jonas & Annsofie Svanberg, owners of the very well maintained SM #232 "Lady Annila."


image.png
Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 3:41 AM Steve Bode <Whatsup@...> wrote:
HELP. Where do these go?! I'm sure they go in the Jib furler, but I missed putting them in! 

IMG_3344.jpg
IMG_3345.jpg

I was sure that I would not miss how they went back in, but sure as s&%# I did! The furler is now back together and on the stay. I'm prepping to remove the stay and turnbuckle in anticipation of having to remove the furler to put these guys back in where they are supposed to be. 



Steve Bode, Captain of Sailing Vessel Intention
Currently Drydocked at ANT Yat Servis
Bodrum Marina Teknik Servisler
Neyzen Tevfik Cad. No. 5
48400 Bodrum, Mulga, Turkiye

Amel Super Maramu #117 (1994) 
+1 415-710-6659 voice/text/whatsapp

--
Steve Bode
Capt. SV Intention
Amel SM #117 (1994)
+1 415 710-6659 Mobile/Text/WhatsApp
facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
svintention.com


locked Re: AMEL 55

Joerg Esdorn
 

Lindy, i thought I had responded before but don’t see my reply here.  So send me an email and I’d be happy to talk with you.  Best. Joerg

A55 Kincsem, currently in Cagliari Sardinia 


Re: Genua Electric furler

 

Genoa Furling Solenoids on SN & SM are located on the opposite side of the breakers in
the photo below. 
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Note the black "thumb bolt" in the above photo. If you remove this thumb nut, 
the entire panel on the reverse side will detach for ease of working on it.
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Here is a photo of the solenoids which are on the removable panel mentioned above:
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On the bottom of each of the Genoa Solenoids there is a
rubber cap with a push knob underneath. If you push, you should hear the motor
rotating (as long as the Genoa breaker ON). If pushing the rubber cap does not 
engage the motor, possibly your problem is with that 24 volt solenoid.

I hope this helps.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 9:56 PM heinz@... <heinz@...> wrote:
Hello everyone
After my genoa had wrapped around itself several times because the engine did not stop, my genoa now only turns in one direction, unrolling.
In the bath I can hear a click on pressing the switch in the cockpit. I have already exchanged the cables and used a different switch. Always with the same result. It just works in one Direktion. 
Does anyone know advice?
I would be grateful for a recommendation.
 
 
Heinz quetzal SM2000 292 from Huhahine Polynesia 


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

Gerhard Mueller
 

On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:32 PM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown wrote:
I also thought about doing that but then a) what happens when the tank is full and you’re using the Dessalator so the filler is also closed, where does the water go? And b) how do you know when its full?
a) My Amel Sharki #60 does not have a Dessalator.
b) I only close the level pipe as shown in the photos when refilling the water tank. The other times I see the water level by the unblocked level pipe. The usual overflow is the open refill connector when refilling. The overflow goes into the cockpit.

Quite easy and so I never have had any problems.
 
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

Arno Luijten
 

I think Gehard made a very clever solution. Simple and elegant. On the 54 there is actually an overflow pipe as far as I can see. It drains the excess into the slot where the sliding hatch goes. This again has a drain into the bilge (that likes to get clogged, keep an eye on it!). The point is that the capacity of this overflow is not big enough, so it still ends up in the bilge.
I do agree an alarm would be nice. It saves water (expensive on this Island). I was thinking to put some metal in the tip of the level-rod and a Hall sensor trough the wall right next to the scale. Once the tip reaches the sensor an alarm will sound. The nice thing is that the other side of the wall is the electricity cavity, so plenty of power stuff available.

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Cracks on Keel - Amel Super Maramu (1997)

Stephen Hancock
 

It took a hit. Needs to be delaminated a little to see how far the trouble is and decide how far to go to repair. Maybe just a localized area. Needs a expert to check out the whole keel attachment.

On May 27, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Jarek Zemlo <zemlo.jarek@...> wrote:

Hello to All,

I found Amel SM (1997) that I like to purchase. I had first look yesterday and what is working me mostly is a crack on the keel, front edge with some rust coming out (see pictures). Is this a sign of water penetrating inside the laminate and corrosion of steel and bolts? Anyone with similar experience and advice? Best regards Jarek
--
Jarek Zemlo


Cracks on Keel - Amel Super Maramu (1997)

Jarek Zemlo
 

Hello to All,

I found Amel SM (1997) that I like to purchase. I had first look yesterday and what is working me mostly is a crack on the keel, front edge with some rust coming out (see pictures). Is this a sign of water penetrating inside the laminate and corrosion of steel and bolts? Anyone with similar experience and advice? Best regards Jarek
--
Jarek Zemlo


Re: Important - Amel 54 and any Electrical Emergency #IMPORTANT

Dean Gillies
 

Hi Arno,
I’m 99% sure, I will dig out the manual and post a pic when we are in port later today.
Best regards
Dean


locked Re: AMEL 55

Barry Connor
 

Hi Joerg,
You did not mention that you can walk under your Mizzen and not hit your head.😅😅
Best Regards
Barry 
AMEL 54 #17

On May 27, 2019, at 13:44, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

Davi, I appreciate the white flag but given what you have written, I still feel the need to correct some of the misstatements in your posts.  For the record, I have spent 4 hours with  Joel potter going over a SM and 3 hours on a 54 - Joel Potter style, with a fine tooth comb, so I am very familiar with both boats.  

 

1.  I live on my boat 6 or 7 months a year, usually with my wife and/or 1-5 guests.   There is so much storage for personal items in the 3 private cabins in my boat that nobody can fill the room.  Your “incredible lack of cabinet space” is simply untrue.  Overall, Amel advises me that the 55 has 40% more storage space than the SM, and 20% more than the 54.  

  1. My bow locker holds a Parasailor, a Code Zero and a 40 kg Rocna spare anchor.  Way more room than on a SM. 
  2. I store a 3.4 m RIB in the davits. If I go offshore, I can store that sideways on the aft deck.  Your aluminum dinghy fits the same way.  You can also not get the cutter stay, which is an extra.  I wouldn’t dream of doing that, though, because the staysail is a critical advantage in a blow.  
  3. You can do your sunbathing on the aft deck.  There are cushions which fit there which cover but have cutouts for the hatches. You can also rig a sun awning over the entire aft deck which you can roll up on the mizzen boom.  That entire arrangement is outstanding.  
  4. The suggestion that a wider stern is a disadvantage downwind is “interesting”.  Just ask anyone who has actual experience with going downwind in heavy conditions on both narrow stern IOR boats and more modern wider stern designs.  No comparison.  The 55 is a powerful performer in downwind conditions.  I just spent 1.5 days on a close to broad reach in windy conditions with the boat going between 8 and 10 knots under autopilot.   Great experience.  
  5. The cockpit design is simply fantastic.  A real, sturdy table with room for 6, very protected, great visibility and ventilation via the hatches on top and the opening section in the middle.  The benches are sure long enough for me.  There is no need to “pop” out because I can actually stand at the helm and look out.  The storage in front takes nothing away from the cockpit - just reduces the deck space - and is used all the time to store small items like cameras and cushions.  Nothing dangerous that I can see.  

 

Allow me a final remark.  It is obvious from your posts that you consider the 55 too expensive for your purposes.  I fully appreciate the price of the newer Amel because I started looking for SMs, then looked at 54s and then bought what my wife much preferred: a 55.   But I still like the SM and the 54 and don’t trash them on the web.  I would ask that you refrain from trashing the 55 with obviously unfounded statements.  Thank you.  


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

rossirossix4
 

Unlike many others we have never done this in our Super Maramu.  This is because we are always so alert and thinking. So we have never, ever made such a stupid, foolish mistake in KAIMI.

Oh, wait, that's right, I forgot.  We overflowed our Santorin (SN86) TWICE....BIG TIME!  I think the USCG had to drop us an emergency pump from a helicopter the second time....

Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI SM429
Bonaire


locked Re: AMEL 55

Joerg Esdorn
 

Davi, I appreciate the white flag but given what you have written, I still feel the need to correct some of the misstatements in your posts.  For the record, I have spent 4 hours with  Joel potter going over a SM and 3 hours on a 54 - Joel Potter style, with a fine tooth comb, so I am very familiar with both boats.  

 

1.  I live on my boat 6 or 7 months a year, usually with my wife and/or 1-5 guests.   There is so much storage for personal items in the 3 private cabins in my boat that nobody can fill the room.  Your “incredible lack of cabinet space” is simply untrue.  Overall, Amel advises me that the 55 has 40% more storage space than the SM, and 20% more than the 54.  

  1. My bow locker holds a Parasailor, a Code Zero and a 40 kg Rocna spare anchor.  Way more room than on a SM. 
  2. I store a 3.4 m RIB in the davits. If I go offshore, I can store that sideways on the aft deck.  Your aluminum dinghy fits the same way.  You can also not get the cutter stay, which is an extra.  I wouldn’t dream of doing that, though, because the staysail is a critical advantage in a blow.  
  3. You can do your sunbathing on the aft deck.  There are cushions which fit there which cover but have cutouts for the hatches. You can also rig a sun awning over the entire aft deck which you can roll up on the mizzen boom.  That entire arrangement is outstanding.  
  4. The suggestion that a wider stern is a disadvantage downwind is “interesting”.  Just ask anyone who has actual experience with going downwind in heavy conditions on both narrow stern IOR boats and more modern wider stern designs.  No comparison.  The 55 is a powerful performer in downwind conditions.  I just spent 1.5 days on a close to broad reach in windy conditions with the boat going between 8 and 10 knots under autopilot.   Great experience.  
  5. The cockpit design is simply fantastic.  A real, sturdy table with room for 6, very protected, great visibility and ventilation via the hatches on top and the opening section in the middle.  The benches are sure long enough for me.  There is no need to “pop” out because I can actually stand at the helm and look out.  The storage in front takes nothing away from the cockpit - just reduces the deck space - and is used all the time to store small items like cameras and cushions.  Nothing dangerous that I can see.  

 

Allow me a final remark.  It is obvious from your posts that you consider the 55 too expensive for your purposes.  I fully appreciate the price of the newer Amel because I started looking for SMs, then looked at 54s and then bought what my wife much preferred: a 55.   But I still like the SM and the 54 and don’t trash them on the web.  I would ask that you refrain from trashing the 55 with obviously unfounded statements.  Thank you.  


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Gerhard,

 

I also thought about doing that but then a) what happens when the tank is full and you’re using the Dessalator so the filler is also closed, where does the water go? And b) how do you know when its full?

 

Surely a better solution would be to have an overflow, but where?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerhard Mueller via Groups.Io
Sent: 27 May 2019 08:51
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Am I the only one so stupid?

 

When refilling I drop the level pipe into the close position and block it. I need some strength to push it down and block it because I have equipped the level pipe with an o-ring seal which presses now against the outer pipe and so no water can come out from the small space between the 2 tubes. Very simple solution.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Jib Stay Guide inside Furler

Steve Bode
 

HELP. Where do these go?! I'm sure they go in the Jib furler, but I missed putting them in! 

IMG_3344.jpg
IMG_3345.jpg

I was sure that I would not miss how they went back in, but sure as s&%# I did! The furler is now back together and on the stay. I'm prepping to remove the stay and turnbuckle in anticipation of having to remove the furler to put these guys back in where they are supposed to be. 



Steve Bode, Captain of Sailing Vessel Intention
Currently Drydocked at ANT Yat Servis
Bodrum Marina Teknik Servisler
Neyzen Tevfik Cad. No. 5
48400 Bodrum, Mulga, Turkiye

Amel Super Maramu #117 (1994) 
+1 415-710-6659 voice/text/whatsapp

--
Steve Bode
Capt. SV Intention
Amel SM #117 (1994)
+1 415 710-6659 Mobile/Text/WhatsApp
facebook.com/stevebodesanfrancisco
svintention.com


Re: Am I the only one so stupid?

Gerhard Mueller
 

Here are some pictures.

--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

RICHARD MIDDLETON <middleton@...>
 

Ok I’m not an Amel owner, maybe one day! But i had a Beta 60 fitted to my HR Rasmus 10 years ago. I’m very happy with it and would do the same again. The point I’d like to emphasise is that I had great support from Beta by talking to them at the factory. They answered my worries and made suggestions. Ring them or email them.
regards Richard