I am about 2 years from getting a SM and am convinced it is the best
yacht out there. I would love to come and visit someone that might
be coming to San Francisco. In return I will give you a great tour
of the city and surrounding area.

Have a great holiday, everyone.

Steve

Hi Ruth,

I have SM 299. If the material is the same, Mon Selo at Amel says wash it in the washing machine at no more than 30C. I have done this successfully.

Seasons Greetings

Ian Shepherd

"Crusader"

Hello Peter,

I have lived aboard my SM2000 for 27 months continuously and find no problem with the showers. The later boats have a shower curtain that wraps around over the door, and if you stand with your back to the basin so that the spray is away from the wall, there is little to worry about. I just polish the door every month or so, and occasionally wipe the wall fabric over with a kitchen degreasing cleaner. I also shower at least twice a day.

If I have any criticism of the shower tray, it is the fact that the washbasin drain exits into the tray. When the yacht is hard pressed on the starboard tack and you pull the plug out of the basin, take your socks off first as the water tends to run towards the toilet bowl and up through the grating and not down the drain hole due to the angle of heel. Maybe if the basin drain pipe tee'd into the waste pipe below the centre floor, the problem would be eradicated, or lessened. Amel advise a max heel angle of 15 degrees for best performance, which would probably avoid the problem, but as we all know, this is not always possible to adhere to, especially when single handed and having a wash!

As an ex airline pilot who often frequented the RHKYC, I wonder where you will be berthed?

Best Wishes

Ian Shepherd SM #299 (and another soon) "Crusader"

welcome aboard,
eric freedman
s/m 376 kimberlite
huntington, long island



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John Martin"
<jjmartin24@h...> wrote:

Hello all

We have just become the proud new owners of SM hull no 248, 1999,

now named "Moon Dog", our homeport being Hampton, Virginia.

Can anyone give me advice on washing the salon upholstery covers ?

I have machine washed the simple cushion covers and curtains for the
bow and stern cabins with very good results, but am not sure how to
go about washing the salon cushion covers that have a thin layer of
foam stitched to their backs. Has anyone washed these in a large
capacity commercial washing machine ? Or is having them steam
cleaned, as you would do for upholstered furniture, the better way to
go ?

Thanks and Happy Holidays to all !

Ruth (and John) Martin

Hello all

We have just become the proud new owners of SM hull no 248, 1999, now named "Moon Dog", our homeport being Hampton, Virginia.

Can anyone give me advice on washing the salon upholstery covers ? I have machine washed the simple cushion covers and curtains for the bow and stern cabins with very good results, but am not sure how to go about washing the salon cushion covers that have a thin layer of foam stitched to their backs. Has anyone washed these in a large capacity commercial washing machine ? Or is having them steam cleaned, as you would do for upholstered furniture, the better way to go ?

Thanks and Happy Holidays to all !

Ruth (and John) Martin

DOES anyone know what a twistle yard rig is?
thanks
eric
sm kimberlite #376

I find the shower just the right size for offshore sailing. any
bigger and it could be a hazard.
eric
sm 376
kimberlite



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, asm283 <no_reply@y...> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "sail1232003

<sailaway@n...>"

<sailaway@n...> wrote:

One of these days you will be in a gale offshore and you will

greatly

appreciate the design of the heads.

Erick, thanks for the info. That is more or less what I already

told

my wife, but she still considers it strange that this world

cruiser

doesn't have a proper built in shower stall. cheers Peter
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Erick MEJEAN"

<maramu@h...>

wrote:

Hi Peter
Hello from Singapore where I live although my boat is in France.
I don't think you should worry about that. As long as you wipe

off

the water

form the ceiling and from the door it will remain in perfect

condition. You

don't need to do a thorough job. Just wipe off the excess water

and that's

it.I sail with three kids on board who use the forward shower

very often So

fare there is no single sign of water infiltration or

whatsoever.

My SM is

already 7 years old.....
Should you fly down to Singapore let me know
Erick






----Original Message Follows----
From: "Peter Booth" <sailaway@n...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fw: SM showers
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:34:01 +0800


----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Booth
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:26 AM
Subject: SM showers


Hi, we are looking at buying a new SM2000 but don't know how we

will get on

with the showers set up. We will be living aboard in Hong Kong

and

due to

the climate will be showering a couple of times a day. We are

wondering

about the sidewall or door getting damaged due to frequent

showering. How

does everybody make out with the shower setup? We currently

live

onboard a

16 yr old Celestial 48' ketch which has a built in

fibreglass/gelcoat shower

stall, so we don't have any water damage problems. thanks for

your

help,

Peter Booth

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--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "sail1232003 <sailaway@n...>"
<sailaway@n...> wrote:

One of these days you will be in a gale offshore and you will greatly
appreciate the design of the heads.

Erick, thanks for the info. That is more or less what I already

told

my wife, but she still considers it strange that this world cruiser
doesn't have a proper built in shower stall. cheers Peter
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Erick MEJEAN"

<maramu@h...>

wrote:

Hi Peter
Hello from Singapore where I live although my boat is in France.
I don't think you should worry about that. As long as you wipe

off

the water

form the ceiling and from the door it will remain in perfect

condition. You

don't need to do a thorough job. Just wipe off the excess water

and that's

it.I sail with three kids on board who use the forward shower

very often So

fare there is no single sign of water infiltration or whatsoever.

My SM is

already 7 years old.....
Should you fly down to Singapore let me know
Erick






----Original Message Follows----
From: "Peter Booth" <sailaway@n...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fw: SM showers
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:34:01 +0800


----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Booth
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:26 AM
Subject: SM showers


Hi, we are looking at buying a new SM2000 but don't know how we

will get on

with the showers set up. We will be living aboard in Hong Kong

and

due to

the climate will be showering a couple of times a day. We are

wondering

about the sidewall or door getting damaged due to frequent

showering. How

does everybody make out with the shower setup? We currently live

onboard a

16 yr old Celestial 48' ketch which has a built in

fibreglass/gelcoat shower

stall, so we don't have any water damage problems. thanks for

your

help,

Peter Booth






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Erick, thanks for the info. That is more or less what I already told
my wife, but she still considers it strange that this world cruiser
doesn't have a proper built in shower stall. cheers Peter
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...>
wrote:

Hi Peter
Hello from Singapore where I live although my boat is in France.
I don't think you should worry about that. As long as you wipe off

the water

form the ceiling and from the door it will remain in perfect

condition. You

don't need to do a thorough job. Just wipe off the excess water

and that's

it.I sail with three kids on board who use the forward shower

very often So

fare there is no single sign of water infiltration or whatsoever.

My SM is

already 7 years old.....
Should you fly down to Singapore let me know
Erick






----Original Message Follows----
From: "Peter Booth" <sailaway@n...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fw: SM showers
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:34:01 +0800


----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Booth
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:26 AM
Subject: SM showers


Hi, we are looking at buying a new SM2000 but don't know how we

will get on

with the showers set up. We will be living aboard in Hong Kong and

due to

the climate will be showering a couple of times a day. We are

wondering

about the sidewall or door getting damaged due to frequent

showering. How

does everybody make out with the shower setup? We currently live

onboard a

16 yr old Celestial 48' ketch which has a built in

fibreglass/gelcoat shower

stall, so we don't have any water damage problems. thanks for your

help,

Peter Booth






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Okay sorry.... I got several emails wondering about the price.....Its
$199,900.00 She is in like new condition!


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <mrcooper@s...> wrote:

For sale and the owner is motivated! Everything on this boat is in
excellent condition and works perfectly.


The forward stateroom is fitted with a vee berth with lockers above
and outboard on each side. To starboard and aft is a large cedar
lined hanging locker. Port is a head compartment with sink, marine
toilet, shower and storage bins outboard.
Moving aft is the salon with an "L" shaped settee to port with
lockers outboard. Under the settee is a built in Frigiboat electric
freezer. On centerline is a large table with bottle storage and
folding leaves. On starboard is a settee/berth with outboard

lockers.

The galley occupies the aft bulkhead from the companionway to the
port quarter of the salon area and is fitted with;

* Hot & cold pressurized water

* New Force Ten propane two burner stove with oven

* Xintex S-2A propane sensor

* New Front loading refrigerator

* Double Stainless sinks

* Numerous lockers and drawers for storage of utensils and stores

On the starboard side of the companionway is the large chart/nav
station with fitted electronics and storage in the table and under

A passageway leads aft on the starboard side. This leads to the
owners private area with a large cedar lined hanging locker,
desk/make up table, lounging settee, double berth and overhead
lockers for storage port and starboard. There is an ensuite head

with

sink,new marine head, shower and storage bins.

Electronics


Raytheon Raysat 200 Sat Nav
Raytheon Raynav 590 GPS Reciever
Brookes & Gatehouse Hornet 4 Windspeed at nav with repeater in
cockpit
Paper graph recordind ship barometer
VDO brass ships clock
Marco Polo ships compass
ICOM 770 SSB radio
Furuno Radar (with cockpit mount)
New battery Monitor
Raytheon 550 Loran C
Garmin GPS in cockpit
Brookes & Gatehouse Hecta Depth moniter with repeater in cockpit
Weems & Plath brass ships barometer
Ltton EPIRB
Standard Horizon VHF radio
Neco Autopilot
New battery selector switch

Electrical


New West Marine WC40 Battery Monitor
2 Solar panels (mounted on hard dodger)
Volt and ampmeter
True Charge 40+ multi stage battery charger
VDO hour meter for engine
Prop driven cruising generator

Sails & Rigging

A ketch rig with aluminum masts and booms and SS standing rigging.
There is electric roller furling on the main and jib controlled for
the safety of the cockpit. The mizzen is rolled out manually.

Winches

include; (2) Lewmar #48cst primaries, (3) #16cst & (1) #30cst

mounted

on the mizzenmast, (2) #40cst & (2) #30cst mounted on the mainmast.
Genoa tracks are adjustable using a winch handle from the cockpit.
Amel system spinnaker and reaching poles mounted on forward deck

with

tracks and extensions. All sails are reported to be in good

condition

and include;
Mainsail
2nd jib for wing on wing
Jib

Deck

Hull and decks non-skid (simulated teak) were repainted.
Electric anchor windlass
CQR anchor w/200 ft chain
Outboard motor lift
Cockpit cushions
New dodger windows installed
Boarding ladder/med tie ramp
Hard dodger fly to shade cockpit
Horseshoe bouy
Rail mounted SS BBQ

Additional

Many systems have been refurbed and replaced over the past year
such. All winches cleaned and relubed, main & jib motors refurbed,
Espar heater refurbed, fuel polished, prop driven cruising

generator

refurbed, etc. The current owners have maintained Elysium in top
condition. The following items were replaced in the last year.
Hot water heater & plumbing
Heads, plumbing & holding tanks
Solar panels
Cedar lining in closets
Sink faucets in galley
Remote spotlight on Mizzenmast
Lifelines
Bilge pump
Saltwater pump
Windshields on hard dodger
110 panel & associated wiring
Engine room blowers
Fresh water pump
Sink and shower fixtures in aft head
Sail UV covers
Dodger covers
New running rigging (partial)
New plumbing (partial)

If you have any questions please feel free to contact me.

Best,
Joe Cooper
Bower and Kling Yachts
(858)699-3506
mrcooper@s...

Hi Peter
Hello from Singapore where I live although my boat is in France.
I don't think you should worry about that. As long as you wipe off the water form the ceiling and from the door it will remain in perfect condition. You don't need to do a thorough job. Just wipe off the excess water and that's it.I sail with three kids on board who use the forward shower very often So fare there is no single sign of water infiltration or whatsoever. My SM is already 7 years old.....
Should you fly down to Singapore let me know
Erick






----Original Message Follows----
From: "Peter Booth" <sailaway@netvigator.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fw: SM showers
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:34:01 +0800

hi Joel,
How was the paris show??

I was thinking of coating the hawspipe and chain with vaseline. then
filling the cavity with silicone sealant. when this dries i would
lower the anchor to remove the plug. all i then have to do is slit
the silicone plug and remove it. i would then have a custom form
fitted plug for offshore.
what do you think of that idea?
happy and healthiest holiday wishes to you and Vela.
eric & Judy



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joel F. Potter"
<jfpottercys@w...> wrote:

Hi Eric,

I've seen many different attempts at this with varying success.

The ones I

know to work:

1. A wad of duct tape (racer tape, boat tape, airplane tape,

silver

tape...a thousand names for the same stuff)
around the chain where it passes through the hause hole.

90%

effective and a mess to remove.
2. Sealing clay (the kind you find at hardware stores for

sealing cracks

and holes for pipes and wires) around
the hause hole. A bit of a mess t remove but 95%

effective.

3. Neoprene sheet (wet suit material) wrapped around the chain,

taped

with duct tape at both ends,
pulled into the hause from the chain locker. 90%

effective, easy to

remove.
4. Spray type insulating foam from the hardware store, used to

fill

voids, insulate around pipe and wire
entry/exit holes. It is 95% effective and disintegrates

when the

chain is used. Great stuff.
5. If you have friends who are dentists, beg, borrow or steal

the molding

putty they use to take full upper or
lower impressions. It is 100% effective and completely

disappears

when the chain is used.

Hope this helps, Joel

Hi Eric,

I've seen many different attempts at this with varying success. The ones I
know to work:

1. A wad of duct tape (racer tape, boat tape, airplane tape, silver
tape...a thousand names for the same stuff)
around the chain where it passes through the hause hole. 90%
effective and a mess to remove.
2. Sealing clay (the kind you find at hardware stores for sealing cracks
and holes for pipes and wires) around
the hause hole. A bit of a mess t remove but 95% effective.
3. Neoprene sheet (wet suit material) wrapped around the chain, taped
with duct tape at both ends,
pulled into the hause from the chain locker. 90% effective, easy to
remove.
4. Spray type insulating foam from the hardware store, used to fill
voids, insulate around pipe and wire
entry/exit holes. It is 95% effective and disintegrates when the
chain is used. Great stuff.
5. If you have friends who are dentists, beg, borrow or steal the molding
putty they use to take full upper or
lower impressions. It is 100% effective and completely disappears
when the chain is used.

Hope this helps, Joel

I have not tried this, but a captain I know suggested I get a can of
expandable insulation foam from Home depot. He says it works great
and removes easely.

Vito

Eric...Try a small pice of modeling clay..the kind
that does not harden...mold it around the chain and
over the pipe Paul
--- kimberlite1212 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Has anyone come up with a good way to plug the
windlass hawspipe
during a passage?
fair winds,
eric

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Hi Eric
If you problem is to prevent the sea water to come in I believe that the small piece of rubber attached to the windlass is more than enough as the amount of water that may come inside is rather little. My personal view is that any other system a bit more sophisticated will not last long as sooner or later you will forget to remove it one day. The good thing with the rubber plate, is that even though you forget to remove it, it will not be damaged, at most torn a bit.
Regards
Erick






----Original Message Follows----
From: kimberlite1212 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] plug for windlass
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:27:05 -0000

Has anyone come up with a good way to plug the windlass hawspipe
during a passage?
fair winds,
eric




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Has anyone come up with a good way to plug the windlass hawspipe
during a passage?
fair winds,
eric

Hi I have the original genoa from my SM 2000 that I would like to
sell. The sail is 3 seasons old. It has made one round trip from Ft
Lauderdale to Annapolis and a trip from Ft lauderdale to NY.
Daysailed the rest of the time. The sail is in very good condition,
It has the typical laminate mold spots otherwise in great shape.

$1500 or best offer.

Email mail VCMS@AOL.com

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Krassopoulos Dimitris
<dkra@p...> wrote:

You can get photos even a video of my SM under construction from

my site

www.almalibre.gr <http://www.almalibre.gr> .


Best Regards

Dimitris Krassopoulos
SM Alma Libre

-----Original Message-----
From: kimberlite1212 [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 7:33 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Factory photos


Does anyone have photos of the sm under construction?
I have seen some under the yahoo section of photos but i am
interested in any and all additional photos of the boat under
construction.
thanks
eric
sm kimberlite


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I have some i took while at the factory... Let me know if you

want some Paul