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Re: Furling motor brushes
Donato,
I think I fixed the link. If not, use the link in Kelly and Ryans first post that says the part number SPR-A007.
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Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA
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Re: Furling motor brushes
Mark, glad this worked for you! 😀 Donato, try this:
(Or try the hyperlink in my first message; that worked for me when I checked it)
Fair winds
Kelly + Ryan SM233 Iteration
Apparently the link you posted leads to a ‘page not found’. Would you please send it back ? Or detail the specs ?
Thanks
Donato
SM 468 Ocean Bird
Il giorno dom 9 giu 2019 alle 20:41 Mark McGovern < mfmcgovern@...> ha scritto: Thanks Kelly and Ryan for the information! These worked perfectly in our Leroy Somer MBT86M Main Furler and Outhaul motors. Our main furler stopped working under any load at the end of last season. It would spin freely when not loaded and I was able to easily furl and unfurl the mainsail manually so I figured it was likely worn brushes and/or a dirty armature. Sure enough, it was both. I replaced the brushes and cleaned the armature and they both work great. Here is a direct link to the place I bought them:
https://store.eurtonelectric.com/31x31x6brushspr-a005-1-1-1.aspx
And here are some pictures of the brushes:
New brush on the left and old brush on right:
  
They really are a perfect fit and they are even cheaper when you buy 11 or more so I stocked up. Thanks again for the information. I love this group!
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Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA
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Re: Furling motor brushes
Apparently the link you posted leads to a ‘page not found’. Would you please send it back ? Or detail the specs ?
Thanks
Donato
SM 468 Ocean Bird
Il giorno dom 9 giu 2019 alle 20:41 Mark McGovern < mfmcgovern@...> ha scritto: Thanks Kelly and Ryan for the information! These worked perfectly in our Leroy Somer MBT86M Main Furler and Outhaul motors. Our main furler stopped working under any load at the end of last season. It would spin freely when not loaded and I was able to easily furl and unfurl the mainsail manually so I figured it was likely worn brushes and/or a dirty armature. Sure enough, it was both. I replaced the brushes and cleaned the armature and they both work great. Here is a direct link to the place I bought them:
https://store.eurtonelectric.com/31x31x6brushspr-a005-1-1-1.aspx
And here are some pictures of the brushes:
New brush on the left and old brush on right:
  
They really are a perfect fit and they are even cheaper when you buy 11 or more so I stocked up. Thanks again for the information. I love this group!
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Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA
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Re: TMD22 Emergency Shutoff
Thanks to Kent for this: Best,
Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St. Galveston, Texas 77550 832-380-4970
Wery easy to do you stop the fresh air input .....:-)
JLMERTZ
CottonBay
Le 09/06/2019 à 20:23, CW Bill Rouse a
écrit :
What is the best way to shut off a TMD22 when there is no power
available to use the normal shut off method?
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Best,
Bill
Rouse
Yacht
School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX
77550
+1(832) 380-4970
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Re: Furling motor brushes
No doubt that Kelly and Ryan found something that will help many Amel owners.
Good call.
Best,
Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St. Galveston, Texas 77550 832-380-4970
Thanks Kelly and Ryan for the information! These worked perfectly in our Leroy Somer MBT86M Main Furler and Outhaul motors. Our main furler stopped working under any load at the end of last season. It would spin freely when not loaded and I was able to easily furl and unfurl the mainsail manually so I figured it was likely worn brushes and/or a dirty armature. Sure enough, it was both. I replaced the brushes and cleaned the armature and they both work great. Here is a direct link to the place I bought them:
https://store.eurtonelectric.com/31x31x6brushspr-a005-1-1-1.aspx
And here are some pictures of the brushes:
New brush on the left and old brush on right:
  
They really are a perfect fit and they are even cheaper when you buy 11 or more so I stocked up. Thanks again for the information. I love this group!
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Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA
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Re: Water Tube connection
I had a similar problem, the piece disintegrated. For an interim fix I used a SharkBite fitting available at any hardware store. I would not use this as a permanent replacement due to the conditions these boats are subject to over time - I believe the SharkBite would fail. I ordered a replacement fitting from FaucetsComplete.com item Zurn QACA33MG Pex Qicktite Brass Male Adapter. This fit directly into the brass valve body and connected to the factory PEX tubing even though it was millimeter tubing and the fitting was for imperial size tubing. Check your valve body size to be sure the two thread sizes match.
Good luck.
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Mark Mueller
Brass Ring A54
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Re: TMD22 Emergency Shutoff
Wery easy to do you stop the fresh air input .....:-)
JLMERTZ
CottonBay
Le 09/06/2019 à 20:23, CW Bill Rouse a
écrit :
What is the best way to shut off a TMD22 when there is no power
available to use the normal shut off method?
--
Best,
Bill
Rouse
Yacht
School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX
77550
+1(832) 380-4970
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Re: Furling motor brushes
Thanks Kelly and Ryan for the information! These worked perfectly in our Leroy Somer MBT86M Main Furler and Outhaul motors. Our main furler stopped working under any load at the end of last season. It would spin freely when not loaded and I was able to easily furl and unfurl the mainsail manually so I figured it was likely worn brushes and/or a dirty armature. Sure enough, it was both. I replaced the brushes and cleaned the armature and they both work great. Here is a direct link to the place I bought them: https://store.eurtonelectric.com/31x31x6brushspr-a005-1-1-1.aspxAnd here are some pictures of the brushes: New brush on the left and old brush on right:    
They really are a perfect fit and they are even cheaper when you buy 11 or more so I stocked up. Thanks again for the information. I love this group!
- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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What is the best way to shut off a TMD22 when there is no power available to use the normal shut off method? --
Best,
Bill Rouse
Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
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Bow locker floor/hawse pipe replacement
Mike Ondra
An update on the hawse pipe replacement. After consideration of the many options and suggestions, I did a cheap and easy installation with schedule 40 PVC and standard fittings. If it doesn’t hold up, its an easy replacement to move on to a more robust solution. Basically the rusted out 3” steel hawse pipe was cut out with a reciprocating saw leaving behind about 3 cm stubs top and bottom. 3” PVC was cut to the same length as the cut out steel pipe. PVC slip fittings (a coupling at the bottom and a 3” to 4” adapter at the top) were slid completely onto the PVC, the assembly inserted in the opening, and the fittings slid up and down to close the ends. Machine screws (no glue) secured the couplings in place making for easy removal at a later time. As I said, cheap and easy. This solutions DOES NOT address the issue of the aft starboard windlass bolt reinforcement. Looking at the installation, the proximity to the vertical bulkhead separating the bow lockers as the primary structural support for the windlass, and the associated windlass loads, it seemed that this reinforcement could be overkill. Anyway, while in the anchor locker we took the opportunity to reinforce the top of the plywood chain diverter with aluminum angles bolted together as it was eroding and delaminating. Open to comments as always. Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240 Rock Hall, MD
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Re: Standing rigging on 54
Oliver
I am replacing all standing rigging, including turnbuckles. They are from 2009.
Regarding price, you can call Laetitia Boudon from ACMO ( laetitia@... ) and get a quote for your model and hull number.
By the way, we usually sign our e-mails here with Amel model, hull number and location. It is easier for the fellow owners to help us out.
Rgds
Roque
Attika. A54 - 117
Santos - Brazil
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Alexander Ramseyer
We wanted to change the solenoid valve for the forward toilet and lost that part which is inside the plastic connector/tube. Without it water is dripping. Does anyone have an idea if there is a chance to find replacement here in the U.S? The connector thread is metric.
Thanks,
Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15
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AMEL 54 rudder stock grease
Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica
Hello,,
does anybody know how and if possible to grease the rudder hinges on an AMEL54?
We are on the hard and there is grease in the hinges but do I need to fill it up somehow?
Oliver from Vela Nautica
Faro / Portugal
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Re: Stuffing box drainage path
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On 09 June 2019 at 15:19 "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Well, that makes sense...duh? lolI guess that’s why they pay you the big bucks, eh?
Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Jun 8, 2019, at 9:45 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote: Hi Kent, try healing on the opposite tack and bringing the water back to the middle. Lay some sponges there to catch it before it disappears to the other side Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 09 June 2019 at 10:32 "karkauai via Groups.Io" < karkauai@...> wrote:
Thanks Danny. I’ve tried that and if I twist into a pretzel and stand on my head I can get most of it on the starboard side, but not even close on the port side.Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Jun 8, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote: Hi Kent, I have a paddle wheel speed transducer that I swap for a blank when I leave the boat on the mooring to avoid it getting clogged up with marine growth. The swap always results in a few litres of water. I have a large sponge I use to mop it up and transfer it to the shower drain. A long arm on that sponge might reach behind the stringer, or if the arm is too short, extend it by tying the sponge to a stick. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 09 June 2019 at 05:14 "karkauai via Groups.Io" < karkauai@...> wrote:
Hi Danny,If it’s leaking when we set out, I fix it. If it starts leaking while on passage, (and it has done this twice in 10 years), I’ve just kept an eye on it until I get to port. Both times it wasn’t a lot of water, but enough that I pumped it into the shower when it got to be a few liters.. that was still enough to get some outboard of the stringers when close-hauled. Once in port I do the seal changes.
If anyone has ideas about how to remove the water that gets outboard of the stringers, I’m all ears. On Jun 8, 2019, at 10:00 AM, karkauai via Groups.Io < karkauai@...> wrote: Thanks Mark. I guess they drilled through the shower pan into the space below? I have an alarm but have to pump by hand or with a 24v hand-held Pump. So far the worst it’s been was 3-4 liters that collect in a couple of places that I can get to. Some water collects outboard of the stringers if we’re heeled over, and there’s no way to get it out. I’d like to collect it in the forward cabin just aft of the bow thruster and pipe it directly into the drainage system that drains the forward AC condensate. Has anyone tried that? Kent SM 243 Kristy On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:52 PM, Mark Erdos < mcerdos@...> wrote: Kent, I think Cream Puff was retrofitted. We have a pump in the area that collects water from the leaking bow-thruster area connected to a sensor and alarm. When the sensor kicks in the alarm sounds and the pump automatically pumps the water into the forward head shower pan that obviously makes its way to the bilge. The alarm can be silenced for those trips when the bow thruster seriously need new seals. I particularly like this set up because no modification was made to the watertight bulkhead. With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us Can that change be retrofitted to a 1999 SM?
On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:11 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Gary Late model SM Bow Thrusters do capture any sea water seepage and drain that to the gray water bilge. This change was done sometime in 2003. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970 On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 6:40 PM Gary Wells <gary@...> wrote: My bow thruster will not leak to an exit to the bilge. It will be stopped at the forward head where it must be dealt with manually. If you have a situation where seawater has a direct path to the the engine room bilge (other than the anchor locker), I would say that it's not original (or I didn't read your statement correctly). ..
Having a water alarm next to the rudder quadrant is a great idea. I just have to hoist the bed once a month while we're parked, once a day while we are underway.
Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Maryland, USA
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Re: Stuffing box drainage path
If you provide a path, water will flow to the lowest part of the bilge. This does not have to be a limber hole though that is the fastest form of transport. ,You can use something absorbent to form a wick that siphons the water slowly from the pool up higher to the lower bilge. Fill a bucket half full and stick part of the towel into the bucket and lay the rest of the floor...
James
On Jun 9, 2019, at 12:19 AM, karkauai via Groups.Io < karkauai@...> wrote:
Well, that makes sense...duh? lol I guess that’s why they pay you the big bucks, eh?
Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Jun 8, 2019, at 9:45 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:
Hi Kent, try healing on the opposite tack and bringing the water back to the middle. Lay some sponges there to catch it before it disappears to the other side Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 09 June 2019 at 10:32 "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Thanks Danny. I’ve tried that and if I twist into a pretzel and stand on my head I can get most of it on the starboard side, but not even close on the port side.Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Jun 8, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote: Hi Kent, I have a paddle wheel speed transducer that I swap for a blank when I leave the boat on the mooring to avoid it getting clogged up with marine growth. The swap always results in a few litres of water. I have a large sponge I use to mop it up and transfer it to the shower drain. A long arm on that sponge might reach behind the stringer, or if the arm is too short, extend it by tying the sponge to a stick. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 09 June 2019 at 05:14 "karkauai via Groups.Io" < karkauai@...> wrote:
Hi Danny,If it’s leaking when we set out, I fix it. If it starts leaking while on passage, (and it has done this twice in 10 years), I’ve just kept an eye on it until I get to port. Both times it wasn’t a lot of water, but enough that I pumped it into the shower when it got to be a few liters.. that was still enough to get some outboard of the stringers when close-hauled. Once in port I do the seal changes.
If anyone has ideas about how to remove the water that gets outboard of the stringers, I’m all ears. On Jun 8, 2019, at 10:00 AM, karkauai via Groups.Io < karkauai@...> wrote: Thanks Mark. I guess they drilled through the shower pan into the space below? I have an alarm but have to pump by hand or with a 24v hand-held Pump. So far the worst it’s been was 3-4 liters that collect in a couple of places that I can get to. Some water collects outboard of the stringers if we’re heeled over, and there’s no way to get it out. I’d like to collect it in the forward cabin just aft of the bow thruster and pipe it directly into the drainage system that drains the forward AC condensate. Has anyone tried that? Kent SM 243 Kristy On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:52 PM, Mark Erdos < mcerdos@...> wrote: Kent,
I think Cream Puff was retrofitted. We have a pump in the area that collects water from the leaking bow-thruster area connected to a sensor and alarm. When the sensor kicks in the alarm sounds and the pump automatically pumps the water into the forward head shower pan that obviously makes its way to the bilge. The alarm can be silenced for those trips when the bow thruster seriously need new seals.
I particularly like this set up because no modification was made to the watertight bulkhead.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
Can that change be retrofitted to a 1999 SM?
On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:11 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Gary Late model SM Bow Thrusters do capture any sea water seepage and drain that to the gray water bilge. This change was done sometime in 2003. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 6:40 PM Gary Wells <gary@...> wrote: My bow thruster will not leak to an exit to the bilge. It will be stopped at the forward head where it must be dealt with manually. If you have a situation where seawater has a direct path to the the engine room bilge (other than the anchor locker), I would say that it's not original (or I didn't read your statement correctly). ..
Having a water alarm next to the rudder quadrant is a great idea. I just have to hoist the bed once a month while we're parked, once a day while we are underway.
Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Maryland, USA
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Re: Stuffing box drainage path
karkauai
Well, that makes sense...duh? lol I guess that’s why they pay you the big bucks, eh?
Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819
On Jun 8, 2019, at 9:45 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:
Hi Kent, try healing on the opposite tack and bringing the water back to the middle. Lay some sponges there to catch it before it disappears to the other side Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 09 June 2019 at 10:32 "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Thanks Danny. I’ve tried that and if I twist into a pretzel and stand on my head I can get most of it on the starboard side, but not even close on the port side.Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Jun 8, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote: Hi Kent, I have a paddle wheel speed transducer that I swap for a blank when I leave the boat on the mooring to avoid it getting clogged up with marine growth. The swap always results in a few litres of water. I have a large sponge I use to mop it up and transfer it to the shower drain. A long arm on that sponge might reach behind the stringer, or if the arm is too short, extend it by tying the sponge to a stick. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 09 June 2019 at 05:14 "karkauai via Groups.Io" < karkauai@...> wrote:
Hi Danny,If it’s leaking when we set out, I fix it. If it starts leaking while on passage, (and it has done this twice in 10 years), I’ve just kept an eye on it until I get to port. Both times it wasn’t a lot of water, but enough that I pumped it into the shower when it got to be a few liters.. that was still enough to get some outboard of the stringers when close-hauled. Once in port I do the seal changes.
If anyone has ideas about how to remove the water that gets outboard of the stringers, I’m all ears. On Jun 8, 2019, at 10:00 AM, karkauai via Groups.Io < karkauai@...> wrote: Thanks Mark. I guess they drilled through the shower pan into the space below? I have an alarm but have to pump by hand or with a 24v hand-held Pump. So far the worst it’s been was 3-4 liters that collect in a couple of places that I can get to. Some water collects outboard of the stringers if we’re heeled over, and there’s no way to get it out. I’d like to collect it in the forward cabin just aft of the bow thruster and pipe it directly into the drainage system that drains the forward AC condensate. Has anyone tried that? Kent SM 243 Kristy On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:52 PM, Mark Erdos < mcerdos@...> wrote: Kent, I think Cream Puff was retrofitted. We have a pump in the area that collects water from the leaking bow-thruster area connected to a sensor and alarm. When the sensor kicks in the alarm sounds and the pump automatically pumps the water into the forward head shower pan that obviously makes its way to the bilge. The alarm can be silenced for those trips when the bow thruster seriously need new seals. I particularly like this set up because no modification was made to the watertight bulkhead. With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us Can that change be retrofitted to a 1999 SM?
On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:11 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Gary Late model SM Bow Thrusters do capture any sea water seepage and drain that to the gray water bilge. This change was done sometime in 2003. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970 On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 6:40 PM Gary Wells <gary@...> wrote: My bow thruster will not leak to an exit to the bilge. It will be stopped at the forward head where it must be dealt with manually. If you have a situation where seawater has a direct path to the the engine room bilge (other than the anchor locker), I would say that it's not original (or I didn't read your statement correctly). ..
Having a water alarm next to the rudder quadrant is a great idea. I just have to hoist the bed once a month while we're parked, once a day while we are underway.
Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Maryland, USA
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Re: Stuffing box drainage path
Hi Kent, try healing on the opposite tack and bringing the water back to the middle. Lay some sponges there to catch it before it disappears to the other side Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 09 June 2019 at 10:32 "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Thanks Danny. I’ve tried that and if I twist into a pretzel and stand on my head I can get most of it on the starboard side, but not even close on the port side.Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819 On Jun 8, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote: Hi Kent, I have a paddle wheel speed transducer that I swap for a blank when I leave the boat on the mooring to avoid it getting clogged up with marine growth. The swap always results in a few litres of water. I have a large sponge I use to mop it up and transfer it to the shower drain. A long arm on that sponge might reach behind the stringer, or if the arm is too short, extend it by tying the sponge to a stick. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 09 June 2019 at 05:14 "karkauai via Groups.Io" < karkauai@...> wrote:
Hi Danny,If it’s leaking when we set out, I fix it. If it starts leaking while on passage, (and it has done this twice in 10 years), I’ve just kept an eye on it until I get to port. Both times it wasn’t a lot of water, but enough that I pumped it into the shower when it got to be a few liters.. that was still enough to get some outboard of the stringers when close-hauled. Once in port I do the seal changes.
If anyone has ideas about how to remove the water that gets outboard of the stringers, I’m all ears. On Jun 8, 2019, at 10:00 AM, karkauai via Groups.Io < karkauai@...> wrote: Thanks Mark. I guess they drilled through the shower pan into the space below? I have an alarm but have to pump by hand or with a 24v hand-held Pump. So far the worst it’s been was 3-4 liters that collect in a couple of places that I can get to. Some water collects outboard of the stringers if we’re heeled over, and there’s no way to get it out. I’d like to collect it in the forward cabin just aft of the bow thruster and pipe it directly into the drainage system that drains the forward AC condensate. Has anyone tried that? Kent SM 243 Kristy On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:52 PM, Mark Erdos < mcerdos@...> wrote: Kent, I think Cream Puff was retrofitted. We have a pump in the area that collects water from the leaking bow-thruster area connected to a sensor and alarm. When the sensor kicks in the alarm sounds and the pump automatically pumps the water into the forward head shower pan that obviously makes its way to the bilge. The alarm can be silenced for those trips when the bow thruster seriously need new seals. I particularly like this set up because no modification was made to the watertight bulkhead. With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us Can that change be retrofitted to a 1999 SM?
On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:11 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Gary Late model SM Bow Thrusters do capture any sea water seepage and drain that to the gray water bilge. This change was done sometime in 2003. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970 On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 6:40 PM Gary Wells <gary@...> wrote: My bow thruster will not leak to an exit to the bilge. It will be stopped at the forward head where it must be dealt with manually. If you have a situation where seawater has a direct path to the the engine room bilge (other than the anchor locker), I would say that it's not original (or I didn't read your statement correctly). ..
Having a water alarm next to the rudder quadrant is a great idea. I just have to hoist the bed once a month while we're parked, once a day while we are underway.
Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Maryland, USA
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Re: Stuffing box drainage path
karkauai
Thanks Danny. I’ve tried that and if I twist into a pretzel and stand on my head I can get most of it on the starboard side, but not even close on the port side. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy USA cell: 828-234-6819
On Jun 8, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:
Hi Kent, I have a paddle wheel speed transducer that I swap for a blank when I leave the boat on the mooring to avoid it getting clogged up with marine growth. The swap always results in a few litres of water. I have a large sponge I use to mop it up and transfer it to the shower drain. A long arm on that sponge might reach behind the stringer, or if the arm is too short, extend it by tying the sponge to a stick. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 09 June 2019 at 05:14 "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Hi Danny,If it’s leaking when we set out, I fix it. If it starts leaking while on passage, (and it has done this twice in 10 years), I’ve just kept an eye on it until I get to port. Both times it wasn’t a lot of water, but enough that I pumped it into the shower when it got to be a few liters.. that was still enough to get some outboard of the stringers when close-hauled. Once in port I do the seal changes.
If anyone has ideas about how to remove the water that gets outboard of the stringers, I’m all ears. On Jun 8, 2019, at 10:00 AM, karkauai via Groups.Io < karkauai@...> wrote: Thanks Mark. I guess they drilled through the shower pan into the space below? I have an alarm but have to pump by hand or with a 24v hand-held Pump. So far the worst it’s been was 3-4 liters that collect in a couple of places that I can get to. Some water collects outboard of the stringers if we’re heeled over, and there’s no way to get it out. I’d like to collect it in the forward cabin just aft of the bow thruster and pipe it directly into the drainage system that drains the forward AC condensate. Has anyone tried that? Kent SM 243 Kristy On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:52 PM, Mark Erdos < mcerdos@...> wrote: Kent, I think Cream Puff was retrofitted. We have a pump in the area that collects water from the leaking bow-thruster area connected to a sensor and alarm. When the sensor kicks in the alarm sounds and the pump automatically pumps the water into the forward head shower pan that obviously makes its way to the bilge. The alarm can be silenced for those trips when the bow thruster seriously need new seals. I particularly like this set up because no modification was made to the watertight bulkhead. With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us Can that change be retrofitted to a 1999 SM?
On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:11 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Gary Late model SM Bow Thrusters do capture any sea water seepage and drain that to the gray water bilge. This change was done sometime in 2003. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970 On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 6:40 PM Gary Wells <gary@...> wrote: My bow thruster will not leak to an exit to the bilge. It will be stopped at the forward head where it must be dealt with manually. If you have a situation where seawater has a direct path to the the engine room bilge (other than the anchor locker), I would say that it's not original (or I didn't read your statement correctly). ..
Having a water alarm next to the rudder quadrant is a great idea. I just have to hoist the bed once a month while we're parked, once a day while we are underway.
Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Maryland, USA
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Re: Stuffing box drainage path
Hi Kent, I have a paddle wheel speed transducer that I swap for a blank when I leave the boat on the mooring to avoid it getting clogged up with marine growth. The swap always results in a few litres of water. I have a large sponge I use to mop it up and transfer it to the shower drain. A long arm on that sponge might reach behind the stringer, or if the arm is too short, extend it by tying the sponge to a stick. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 09 June 2019 at 05:14 "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:
Hi Danny,If it’s leaking when we set out, I fix it. If it starts leaking while on passage, (and it has done this twice in 10 years), I’ve just kept an eye on it until I get to port. Both times it wasn’t a lot of water, but enough that I pumped it into the shower when it got to be a few liters.. that was still enough to get some outboard of the stringers when close-hauled. Once in port I do the seal changes.
If anyone has ideas about how to remove the water that gets outboard of the stringers, I’m all ears. On Jun 8, 2019, at 10:00 AM, karkauai via Groups.Io < karkauai@...> wrote: Thanks Mark. I guess they drilled through the shower pan into the space below? I have an alarm but have to pump by hand or with a 24v hand-held Pump. So far the worst it’s been was 3-4 liters that collect in a couple of places that I can get to. Some water collects outboard of the stringers if we’re heeled over, and there’s no way to get it out. I’d like to collect it in the forward cabin just aft of the bow thruster and pipe it directly into the drainage system that drains the forward AC condensate. Has anyone tried that? Kent SM 243 Kristy On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:52 PM, Mark Erdos < mcerdos@...> wrote: Kent, I think Cream Puff was retrofitted. We have a pump in the area that collects water from the leaking bow-thruster area connected to a sensor and alarm. When the sensor kicks in the alarm sounds and the pump automatically pumps the water into the forward head shower pan that obviously makes its way to the bilge. The alarm can be silenced for those trips when the bow thruster seriously need new seals. I particularly like this set up because no modification was made to the watertight bulkhead. With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us Can that change be retrofitted to a 1999 SM?
On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:11 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Gary Late model SM Bow Thrusters do capture any sea water seepage and drain that to the gray water bilge. This change was done sometime in 2003. Best,
CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970 On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 6:40 PM Gary Wells <gary@...> wrote: My bow thruster will not leak to an exit to the bilge. It will be stopped at the forward head where it must be dealt with manually. If you have a situation where seawater has a direct path to the the engine room bilge (other than the anchor locker), I would say that it's not original (or I didn't read your statement correctly). ..
Having a water alarm next to the rudder quadrant is a great idea. I just have to hoist the bed once a month while we're parked, once a day while we are underway.
Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Maryland, USA
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Re: Stuffing box drainage path
karkauai
Hi Danny, If it’s leaking when we set out, I fix it. If it starts leaking while on passage, (and it has done this twice in 10 years), I’ve just kept an eye on it until I get to port. Both times it wasn’t a lot of water, but enough that I pumped it into the shower when it got to be a few liters.. that was still enough to get some outboard of the stringers when close-hauled. Once in port I do the seal changes.
If anyone has ideas about how to remove the water that gets outboard of the stringers, I’m all ears.
On Jun 8, 2019, at 10:00 AM, karkauai via Groups.Io < karkauai@...> wrote: Thanks Mark. I guess they drilled through the shower pan into the space below? I have an alarm but have to pump by hand or with a 24v hand-held Pump. So far the worst it’s been was 3-4 liters that collect in a couple of places that I can get to. Some water collects outboard of the stringers if we’re heeled over, and there’s no way to get it out. I’d like to collect it in the forward cabin just aft of the bow thruster and pipe it directly into the drainage system that drains the forward AC condensate. Has anyone tried that? Kent SM 243 Kristy On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:52 PM, Mark Erdos < mcerdos@...> wrote:
Kent,
I think Cream
Puff was retrofitted. We have a pump in the area that collects water from the
leaking bow-thruster area connected to a sensor and alarm. When the sensor
kicks in the alarm sounds and the pump automatically pumps the water into the forward
head shower pan that obviously makes its way to the bilge. The alarm can be
silenced for those trips when the bow thruster seriously need new seals.
I particularly
like this set up because no modification was made to the watertight bulkhead.
With best
regards,
Mark
Skipper
Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently
cruising - Vista Mar, Panama
www.creampuff.us
Can that change be retrofitted
to a 1999 SM?
On Jun 7, 2019, at 8:11 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
wrote:
Gary
Late model SM Bow Thrusters do
capture any sea water seepage and drain that to the gray water bilge. This
change was done sometime in 2003.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 6:40 PM Gary Wells <gary@...> wrote:
My bow thruster will not leak
to an exit to the bilge. It will be stopped at the forward head where it
must be dealt with manually. If you have a situation where seawater has a
direct path to the the engine room bilge (other than the anchor locker), I
would say that it's not original (or I didn't read your statement correctly).
..
Having a water alarm next to the rudder quadrant is a great idea. I just
have to hoist the bed once a month while we're parked, once a day while we are
underway.
Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Maryland, USA
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