Date   

our super Maramu bowsprit.

eric freedman
 

I had our bowsprit fabricated in St Marten years ago.  The pole is removable from the attachment fixture with one allen bolt. It was not expensive.

It takes up no room on deck and works well with out 1400 sq foot gennaker. Our gennaker is made out of heavier material. 1,5 oz and can be flown in 25+ knots true down wind.

The block is a spring loaded harken. Very simple and easy to install and manage.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Osterberg
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 11:16 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

 

Thank you Gerard
I think by substituting the Selden aluminium tube with a SS one, strength in all direction will be improved.
How long does it protrude from the bow fittings? I discussed this with Selden and they recommend a water stay.
It involve  lot of money the whole thing, Furler, halyards, down haul, sheets, sail and bowsprit, I guess close to 10 000 Euoro, was it worth it? would you do it again?
Paul 


Re: gross and net tonnage

Craig Briggs
 

Dennis and Paul et al,
Do note that Gross and Net Tons have nothing to do with what your boat weighs.  They are volume measures originally used for tax to be paid on the volume of cargo. It has nothing to do with what your boat weighs on the travel-lift and you don't need to "fudge" the USCG formula to get what you think the boat weighs - that's wrong.  Here is an excerpt from the USCG's publication:
"2. GROSS / NET TONNAGE VS. DISPLACEMENT TONNAGE This Guide addresses gross and net tonnage, which relate to vessel volume and appear on a documented vessel's Certificate of Documentation (COD). Gross and net tonnage is widely used as the basis for vessel regulation and assessment of taxes and fees. Gross and net tonnage is not to be confused with displacement or weight tonnage, often expressed in "pounds", "tons" or "long tons".
Click on this link to read the publication and be able to correctly calculate your boat's Gross and Net Tonnage (which again, is NOT displacement or weight tonnage).
https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/DCO%20Documents/Marine%20Safety%20Center/Tonnage/Tonnage%20Guide%201%20-%20Simplified%20Measurement.pdf?ver=2017-06-09-123757-680

Good luck with it - it is really quite easy once you get the idea of weight out of your mind - it is not weight.

Cheers, Craig SN68 Sangaris Gross 31T Net 28T and it weighs about 11 tons on the travel lift.


Re: gross and net tonnage

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

A while back our 54 was weighed by a travel-lift at about 23 metric tons.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of sbmesasailor via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 June 2019 18:43
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] gross and net tonnage

 

I was impacted by this issue in many marinas as well.  The problem as I recall is due to a formula that USCG uses to compute your Gross and Net.  The formula is based on the length, width, and depth.  You have to fudge the dimensions to get the weight figures to come out right.  As the length is most important to most non-weight considering marinas, you need to fudge the width and/or depth numbers.

 

Nobody ever checked my fudged numbers on the width and depth and I never had to overpay for a lighter boat again.

 

Dennis Johns

Libertad

Maramu 121

Circled the world 2011-2017


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: gross and net tonnage

sbmesasailor
 

I was impacted by this issue in many marinas as well.  The problem as I recall is due to a formula that USCG uses to compute your Gross and Net.  The formula is based on the length, width, and depth.  You have to fudge the dimensions to get the weight figures to come out right.  As the length is most important to most non-weight considering marinas, you need to fudge the width and/or depth numbers.

Nobody ever checked my fudged numbers on the width and depth and I never had to overpay for a lighter boat again.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu 121
Circled the world 2011-2017


Re: Bow thruster seals

David Cummane
 

Jose

Well done for offering to replicate the seals for others.  I would love 2 sets if possible.

I would suggest using transferwise, or its equivalent, for payments - easy for international transfers and very clear regarding the amount the beneficiary receives.  Paypal and other payment providers discount the fees from the payment so the sender doesn't see the exact amount the beneficiary receives.  If you lose 5% on all these seals it might annoy you!

Thanks

David
SM#101


Re: Passerelle rope - Opacmare

 

Tony,

Yes, I added Acquamare Marine to Yacht School Preferred Vendors and they have locations in the UK, USA and Australia.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:39 AM tony wells via Groups.Io <tony.wells=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi all

Thanks for responses last month regarding my search for an Opacmare passerelle rope supplier.

There is a firm in the UK charging approx 30% less than some Med-based suppliers. They are also willing to keep one in stock for Amel owners and ship worldwide. 

Bill Rouse has added Acquamare Marine to his preferred vendors list. They provide a range of products and a discount for Amel Owners - check the link for precise details 

https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_11.html

Best wishes,

Tony & Lel Wells
A54 Balthazar #102, Greece


Passerelle rope - Opacmare

tony wells
 

Hi all

Thanks for responses last month regarding my search for an Opacmare passerelle rope supplier.

There is a firm in the UK charging approx 30% less than some Med-based suppliers. They are also willing to keep one in stock for Amel owners and ship worldwide. 

Bill Rouse has added Acquamare Marine to his preferred vendors list. They provide a range of products and a discount for Amel Owners - check the link for precise details 

https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_11.html

Best wishes,

Tony & Lel Wells
A54 Balthazar #102, Greece


Re: Bow thruster seals

eric freedman
 

Lo Siento Jose,

I thought it was Danny placing the order.

Please order 2 sets for me.

I can send you $$ via PayPal if you wish.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 12:19 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bow thruster seals

 

Hi eric  its Jose who had the seals.

Regsrds

Dsnny

On 14 June 2019 at 15:37 eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Danny,

I would also like 2 sets of seals.

Sounds like a great idea and they can be changed while the boat is in the water.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jose Venegas via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 1:32 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bow thruster seals

 

Danny,
I understand very well how the system SHOULD work and, if everything is new, the seals should work as designed.  Unfortunately, wear can change the system and, in my case nothing worked to stop the leak, including several adjustments of cable tension, and increasing compression by the pin.  As I said in my previous e-mails, I believe the problem occurs because the wear of the surfaces between the hull and the thruster that guide its motion result in a misalignment between the trunk and the seal, causing a lateral force on the lip seal which makes it incompetent allowing water intake.  The misalignment also results in the sealing surfaces between the donut seals and the hull are no longer parallel affecting its sealing action.   Following Amel instructions and wasting seals, money and time I realized that the problem could be corrected by designing a seal that would be made of a softer material and have lips that could maintain the seal in the presence of misalignment.   That solved the problem 3 years ago and I have had a dry bilge ever since.!!
In my design, I used two seals in series: a silicone wiper below and a silicone u-cup on top. This results in a slight protrusion of the seal above the horizontal fiberglass surface, as it can be seen in the pix I sent before.    I used silicone glue to secure the seals in place and was planning to add washers to secure them to the fiberglass, but after several months of procrastination, I realized that the glue was sufficient to keep the seals in place.  3 years later, using the thruster twice per week, almost every week during 6 months each summer, including a Marion to Bermuda race the seals are still working as new.  Since I add silicone grease to the trunk every year and, given the number of times (~50/year) that I use the thruster,   I am expecting that they will last a very long time.  So far I have serviced the thruster every year but have decided not to change any of the seals, including the donut seals, which looked in excellent condition.

I just received the quote from the seal manufacturer and it is as follows:

10 pcs. Silicone wiper $ 31.65ea.

10 pcs. Silicone u-cup  $ 32.50ea.


This it will be about $65 per set plus shipment and It will take  14-17 business days to ship from the order

so far I have received requests from:

Bob Ross, sv Nomad, Trinidad (1 set) 
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece (?sets)
Chuck_Kim_Joy (? sets)

Steve Davis Aloha SM72  Ko Olina, Hawaii (? sets)
Mark, Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 (? sets)
Dan Taylor (2 sets)

Gerald Bassin Jetlag, SM113 (2 sets)

Since I want to place the order this week I will appreciate if each of you can e-mail me directly with your e-mail, the number of sets you want and the address two where it should be shipped.   
We still need to figure out the cost of shipping to each one of you and how you will transfer me the money, but given that is something we can figure out later.


Jose 
Ipanema SM2k 278, Boston

 

 


 


 


Re: Bow thruster seals

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi eric  its Jose who had the seals.

Regsrds

Dsnny

On 14 June 2019 at 15:37 eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Danny,

I would also like 2 sets of seals.

Sounds like a great idea and they can be changed while the boat is in the water.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jose Venegas via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 1:32 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bow thruster seals

 

Danny,
I understand very well how the system SHOULD work and, if everything is new, the seals should work as designed.  Unfortunately, wear can change the system and, in my case nothing worked to stop the leak, including several adjustments of cable tension, and increasing compression by the pin.  As I said in my previous e-mails, I believe the problem occurs because the wear of the surfaces between the hull and the thruster that guide its motion result in a misalignment between the trunk and the seal, causing a lateral force on the lip seal which makes it incompetent allowing water intake.  The misalignment also results in the sealing surfaces between the donut seals and the hull are no longer parallel affecting its sealing action.   Following Amel instructions and wasting seals, money and time I realized that the problem could be corrected by designing a seal that would be made of a softer material and have lips that could maintain the seal in the presence of misalignment.   That solved the problem 3 years ago and I have had a dry bilge ever since.!!
In my design, I used two seals in series: a silicone wiper below and a silicone u-cup on top. This results in a slight protrusion of the seal above the horizontal fiberglass surface, as it can be seen in the pix I sent before.    I used silicone glue to secure the seals in place and was planning to add washers to secure them to the fiberglass, but after several months of procrastination, I realized that the glue was sufficient to keep the seals in place.  3 years later, using the thruster twice per week, almost every week during 6 months each summer, including a Marion to Bermuda race the seals are still working as new.  Since I add silicone grease to the trunk every year and, given the number of times (~50/year) that I use the thruster,   I am expecting that they will last a very long time.  So far I have serviced the thruster every year but have decided not to change any of the seals, including the donut seals, which looked in excellent condition.

I just received the quote from the seal manufacturer and it is as follows:

10 pcs. Silicone wiper $ 31.65ea.

10 pcs. Silicone u-cup  $ 32.50ea.


This it will be about $65 per set plus shipment and It will take  14-17 business days to ship from the order

so far I have received requests from:

Bob Ross, sv Nomad, Trinidad (1 set) 
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece (?sets)
Chuck_Kim_Joy (? sets)

Steve Davis Aloha SM72  Ko Olina, Hawaii (? sets)
Mark, Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 (? sets)
Dan Taylor (2 sets)

Gerald Bassin Jetlag, SM113 (2 sets)

Since I want to place the order this week I will appreciate if each of you can e-mail me directly with your e-mail, the number of sets you want and the address two where it should be shipped.   
We still need to figure out the cost of shipping to each one of you and how you will transfer me the money, but given that is something we can figure out later.


Jose 
Ipanema SM2k 278, Boston

 



 


 


Re: Bow thruster seals

eric freedman
 

Hi Danny,

I would also like 2 sets of seals.

Sounds like a great idea and they can be changed while the boat is in the water.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jose Venegas via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 1:32 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bow thruster seals

 

Danny,
I understand very well how the system SHOULD work and, if everything is new, the seals should work as designed.  Unfortunately, wear can change the system and, in my case nothing worked to stop the leak, including several adjustments of cable tension, and increasing compression by the pin.  As I said in my previous e-mails, I believe the problem occurs because the wear of the surfaces between the hull and the thruster that guide its motion result in a misalignment between the trunk and the seal, causing a lateral force on the lip seal which makes it incompetent allowing water intake.  The misalignment also results in the sealing surfaces between the donut seals and the hull are no longer parallel affecting its sealing action.   Following Amel instructions and wasting seals, money and time I realized that the problem could be corrected by designing a seal that would be made of a softer material and have lips that could maintain the seal in the presence of misalignment.   That solved the problem 3 years ago and I have had a dry bilge ever since.!!
In my design, I used two seals in series: a silicone wiper below and a silicone u-cup on top. This results in a slight protrusion of the seal above the horizontal fiberglass surface, as it can be seen in the pix I sent before.    I used silicone glue to secure the seals in place and was planning to add washers to secure them to the fiberglass, but after several months of procrastination, I realized that the glue was sufficient to keep the seals in place.  3 years later, using the thruster twice per week, almost every week during 6 months each summer, including a Marion to Bermuda race the seals are still working as new.  Since I add silicone grease to the trunk every year and, given the number of times (~50/year) that I use the thruster,   I am expecting that they will last a very long time.  So far I have serviced the thruster every year but have decided not to change any of the seals, including the donut seals, which looked in excellent condition.

I just received the quote from the seal manufacturer and it is as follows:

10 pcs. Silicone wiper $ 31.65ea.

10 pcs. Silicone u-cup  $ 32.50ea.


This it will be about $65 per set plus shipment and It will take  14-17 business days to ship from the order

so far I have received requests from:

Bob Ross, sv Nomad, Trinidad (1 set) 
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece (?sets)
Chuck_Kim_Joy (? sets)

Steve Davis Aloha SM72  Ko Olina, Hawaii (? sets)
Mark, Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 (? sets)
Dan Taylor (2 sets)

Gerald Bassin Jetlag, SM113 (2 sets)

Since I want to place the order this week I will appreciate if each of you can e-mail me directly with your e-mail, the number of sets you want and the address two where it should be shipped.   
We still need to figure out the cost of shipping to each one of you and how you will transfer me the money, but given that is something we can figure out later.


Jose 
Ipanema SM2k 278, Boston


Re: Bow thruster seals

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Jose,

the seals are not expensive and why not change them while the boat is out on its very expensive haul out every two years. Look forward to welcoming you to the Pacific.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 14 June 2019 at 09:32 "Jose Venegas via Groups.Io" <josegvenegas@...> wrote:

Danny,

Bi-annual seal change for little use seems excessive compared with over 3+ years of heavy use without changing ANY seals but...
if it is working for you it's fine with me.

Hopefully will be heading your way in 2021.

Jose
SM 278 Ipanema



 


Re: New Furling Motor

Alan Leslie
 

Also there was concern that the brushes in the new motor were not replaceable.
They are.
There is a complete 4 brush set, as attached, available from Amel for Eu 146.07

Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Bow thruster seals

Jose Venegas
 

Danny,

Bi-annual seal change for little use seems excessive compared with over 3+ years of heavy use without changing ANY seals but...
if it is working for you it's fine with me.

Hopefully will be heading your way in 2021.

Jose
SM 278 Ipanema



 


Re: Bow thruster seals

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Jose,

that's good you have the anti twist.. Ocean Pearl's seals were leaking badly when we bought her but we replaced the seals when we did the anti foul before we first set off and have never had any trouble since. Bi annual foam seal replacement is all we have ever done and occasionally we have had to do a lip seal between the bi annuals. However we are not heavy users of the thruster.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 14 June 2019 at 08:17 "Jose Venegas via Groups.Io" <josegvenegas@...> wrote:

Danny, I am not sure if my system is original or retrofit.  It does seem to have an anti-twist vertical tube mounted beside the thruster.  All I know is that when I bought Ipanema (Nike before) in Florida, (about the same time you bought Ocean Perl) The previous owner did not mention it.  However, we got a lot of water in while we sailed the boat from Florida to Georgia, even though the owner had just changed the seals on her. 

Jose Ipanema SM 278 


Re: Bow thruster seals

Gerald Bassin
 

Does anyone know Josés private email? In order to give him our details
Brgrds
Gerald
Jetlag


On 13 Jun 2019, at 20:56, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Jose,

Well done for finding a solution to your leak problem. However your comment about the wear from use has triggered this question. Do you have the Amel designed retrofit anti twist system. This is a vertical 25 mm tube mounted beside the thruster. There is a bracket mounted on top the thruster motor that engages with this. The Amel service agent in Fort Lauderdale (his name escapes me) told me he had a lot of work fitting these in the 2000's 

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 14 June 2019 at 05:32 "Jose Venegas via Groups.Io" <josegvenegas@...> wrote:

Danny,
I understand very well how the system SHOULD work and, if everything is new, the seals should work as designed.  Unfortunately, wear can change the system and, in my case nothing worked to stop the leak, including several adjustments of cable tension, and increasing compression by the pin.  As I said in my previous e-mails, I believe the problem occurs because the wear of the surfaces between the hull and the thruster that guide its motion result in a misalignment between the trunk and the seal, causing a lateral force on the lip seal which makes it incompetent allowing water intake.  The misalignment also results in the sealing surfaces between the donut seals and the hull are no longer parallel affecting its sealing action.   Following Amel instructions and wasting seals, money and time I realized that the problem could be corrected by designing a seal that would be made of a softer material and have lips that could maintain the seal in the presence of misalignment.   That solved the problem 3 years ago and I have had a dry bilge ever since.!!
In my design, I used two seals in series: a silicone wiper below and a silicone u-cup on top. This results in a slight protrusion of the seal above the horizontal fiberglass surface, as it can be seen in the pix I sent before.    I used silicone glue to secure the seals in place and was planning to add washers to secure them to the fiberglass, but after several months of procrastination, I realized that the glue was sufficient to keep the seals in place.  3 years later, using the thruster twice per week, almost every week during 6 months each summer, including a Marion to Bermuda race the seals are still working as new.  Since I add silicone grease to the trunk every year and, given the number of times (~50/year) that I use the thruster,   I am expecting that they will last a very long time.  So far I have serviced the thruster every year but have decided not to change any of the seals, including the donut seals, which looked in excellent condition.

I just received the quote from the seal manufacturer and it is as follows:

10 pcs. Silicone wiper $ 31.65ea.

10 pcs. Silicone u-cup  $ 32.50ea.


This it will be about $65 per set plus shipment and  It will take  14-17 business days to ship from the order

so far I have received requests from:

Bob Ross,  sv Nomad, Trinidad (1 set) 
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece (?sets)
Chuck_Kim_Joy (? sets)
Steve Davis Aloha SM72  Ko Olina, Hawaii (? sets)
Mark, Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 (? sets)
Dan Taylor (2 sets)
Gerald Bassin Jetlag, SM113 (2 sets)

Since I want to place the order this week I will appreciate if each of you can e-mail me directly with your e-mail, the number of sets you want and the address two where it should be shipped.   
We still need to figure out the cost of shipping to each one of you and how you will transfer me the money, but given that is something we can figure out later.

Jose 
Ipanema SM2k 278, Boston



Re: gross and net tonnage

Craig Briggs
 

HI Pat,
Go to the USCG Vessel Documentation pages and they have a simplified measurement methodology you can easily follow to calculate this yourself.  Also see earlier postings on the subject - the numbers for SM's were all over the place.
Craig SN68 Gross 31 Net 28


Re: Bow thruster seals

 

If Jose's suggested seals (which I like a lot) will fit his SM, they will fit all SMs.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 3:17 PM Jose Venegas via Groups.Io <josegvenegas=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Danny, I am not sure if my system is original or retrofit.  It does seem to have an anti-twist vertical tube mounted beside the thruster.  All I know is that when I bought Ipanema (Nike before) in Florida, (about the same time you bought Ocean Perl) The previous owner did not mention it.  However, we got a lot of water in while we sailed the boat from Florida to Georgia, even though the owner had just changed the seals on her. 

Jose Ipanema SM 278 


Re: Standing rigging on 54

 

This is a great idea. Nicky is a good one!

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 2:06 PM Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:
Hi Bill and AMEL friends,

I will be in Sicily (Marina di Ragusa) next winter and I will E-mail Nicky asking him for some Rigging work. 
Is there any other AMEL staying nearby in Sicily next winter, who is interested for a rigging check or some work with Nicky?

Best regards
Ruedi 
"SY WASABI"
Amel 54. #55
Currently in Methoni, Greece

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2019 um 16:07
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Standing rigging on 54


"Nicky" from Malta is what you meant to say. I always recommend Nicky Samut in Malta for any Med rigging issues. I suspect that Nicky has a lot of air miles. During the winter season he will be in Sicily at least 2 weeks working on rigging. He has also upgraded Bamar furlers. And, Nicky is a Yacht School Preferred Vendor, the only rigger in Europe selected as a rigging Preferred Vendor.


Contact: nickysail"at"hotmail.com. BTW, Nicky has sailed/crewed on most all Amel models, including a 64.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 7:44 AM Roque <ediroque@...> wrote:
Mohammad & Aty

I had a few cracked wires at the main too (#117). I reported this fact to ACMO in november 2018. 
  Would you care to tell when you informed ACMO about this failure? Was it last year? 

Thank you for you input. 

Roque
Attika A54 - 117
Santos - Brazil  


Em ter, 11 de jun de 2019 às 07:32, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> escreveu:
Hello Porter;

I hope you guys are doing well and the engine issues are now behind you.

We are replacing all 6 shrouds at the main because ACMO had a crack in one of the original long shrouds that we found in our rig inspection last year.

They did extend a 10% discount because of this so the total shipped to Corfu was 5000 euros.

Off course you only need to upgrade the mid and lower shrouds so your pricing will be less. I did receive a complete quote for all rigging that I will forward to you shortly.

I, like you, try to do everything I can myself, which is about 90%. It’s better to make a mistake and learn while help is available. However, the cruising season in the Med is short so I do elect to use known outside people if necessary so we get to enjoy the season.

The rigging is definitely one of them, at this point, for us. So I’m flying Ricky from Malta to Corfu for 2 days to take care of the shrouds and some lighting and wind cane issues.

Enjoy Tahiti. We chartered there in 2008 and had a great time.


Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

> On Jun 10, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> Dear Mohammad and Aty
>
> Would you be willing to let me or us know the cost from ACMO?
> This seems very tempting to do myself?  Then have a rigger double check.  A lot of work, yes but interesting and tempting!
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Porter
>
> S/V IBIS 54-152
> Tahiti.
>
> Excuse the errors.
> Sent from my IPhone
> Www.fouribis.com
>
>> On Jun 6, 2019, at 11:19 PM, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks guys, it looks like if I order from ACMO then it is a straight swap. So that is what I will do.
>> I have thought hard about all this and at the end of the day I do not want to have that niggling feeling that my rigging is not up to it on a dark stormy night!
>> Nick
>>> On 7 Jun 2019, at 11:42, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Nick;
>>>
>>> We are currently going though the same process and we have just released the order to ACMO.
>>>
>>> If ordered from ACMO, you will receive the entire parts required for the upgrade. This includes a “stronger” pin, as ACMO puts it, the turn buckles and threaded eye. I just again reconfirmed this with ACMO. If you look at your connections at the chain plates, the parts have an ACMO stamp on them.
>>>
>>> Therefore according to ACMO, no other parts will be necessary, it is just a matter of removing the existing shrouds and installing new.
>>>
>>> I will provide an update if we find anything that contradicts this during the install.
>>>
>>> Respectfully;
>>>
>>>
>>> Mohammad & Aty
>>> B&B Kokomo
>>> Amel 54 #099
>>>
>>>> On Jun 7, 2019, at 7:27 AM, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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>>>> Further to the news that the Amel 54 should have 12mm aft lowers not 10mm and that the intermediates should be beefed up from 8mm to 10mm. I am now seriously working this out.
>>>> On the face of it I can order the replacement wire and fittings from ACMO in France and have it a week later. What worries me is that the pin sizes will increase (I guess)
>>>> This should be no problem at the bottom where there is a massive chainplate that I could drill out to accept the bigger pins but at the top at the spreader bases it will be tricky.
>>>> Has anyone been there and done this project?
>>>> What about sticking to 8mm and 10 mm but upgrading the wire quality to say Dyform? Dyform offers about 30% more strength than standard 1x19?
>>>> Any experts out there?
>>>> Nick
>>>> S/Y Amelia AML54-019
>>>> Anchored in Kefalonia enjoying easy living after 2000 mile voyage from Canary Islands.
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Re: Bow thruster seals

Jose Venegas
 

Danny, I am not sure if my system is original or retrofit.  It does seem to have an anti-twist vertical tube mounted beside the thruster.  All I know is that when I bought Ipanema (Nike before) in Florida, (about the same time you bought Ocean Perl) The previous owner did not mention it.  However, we got a lot of water in while we sailed the boat from Florida to Georgia, even though the owner had just changed the seals on her. 

Jose Ipanema SM 278 


Re: gross and net tonnage

Patrick McAneny
 

Denise, That is about half of what my document shows , thus I have been paying twice what I should in the countries that use tonnage to calculate fees.
Thank ,
Pat SM #123


-----Original Message-----
From: Denise McGovern <Mcgovern.denise@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Jun 13, 2019 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] gross and net tonnage

Pat,

Based on USCG Form 5397, Application for Simplified Measurement, CARA is documented 26 GRT and 23 NRT.

Denise
SM #440 CARA
Deale, MD, USA

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