Hi all,

We're in The Bahamas now heading to the Chesapeake area for a bit and plan to leave Tengah, our A54 for 2 months to visit family and travel overland.

I know many of you are either from there or have spent far more time there than me (me = zero). Does anyone have suggestions for a place to leave her for July and August? I would prefer something cheap, obviously. Anywhere in the Chesapeake is fine as we are visiting my family in DC and am not opposed to traveling a bit overland to get there. Most of the places I've emailed either are too shallow (eg - "Do you mind bumping on the mud at low tide?") or can't handle boats of this size.

A mooring or a slip is fine. I won't be living aboard except maybe a few days on the frontend to prepare to leave her and on the backend to fix the things that broke while we are gone. :)


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
www.svtengah.com

Hi all,

We're in The Bahamas now heading to the Chesapeake area for a bit and plan to leave Tengah, our A54 for 2 months to visit family and travel overland.

I know many of you are either from there or have spent far more time there than me (me = zero). Does anyone have suggestions for a place to leave her for July and August? I would prefer something cheap, obviously. Anywhere in the Chesapeake is fine as we are visiting my family in DC and am not opposed to traveling a bit overland to get there. Most of the places I've emailed either are too shallow (eg - "Do you mind bumping on the mud at low tide?") or can't handle boats of this size.

A mooring or a slip is fine. I won't be living aboard except maybe a few days on the frontend to prepare to leave her and on the backend to fix the things that broke while we are gone. :)


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
www.svtengah.com

 

On Tue, 18 Jun. 2019 at 4:38 am, Eric Meury

<ericmeury@...> wrote:

We went tjr Portaboat route.   We have a 8hp two stroke and also have inflatable dinghy dogs for it so it is extremely stable and we can snorkle off the sides.   All in all it is the dinghy I hate the least

 

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 2:33 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Bill, I agree with you, we have not needed to use our dinghy to propel us yet,but review how we would do that,in case we need to deploy in an emergency. I also have rescued a sailboat just before it was going up on a reef on the south coast of Grenada with my rib and its 18 hp two stroke. We also dinghy miles to snorkel and get groceries . Our 10.5 aluminum rib only weighs 98 lbs. ,we love it and it can do 25 to 30 mph in flat water ,just measured by my brother next to me on his jet ski the other day. BTW, we store two six gal. fuel tanks tied to the stanchions ,one is normally in the dinghy.

Pat

SM Shenanigans

 

-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Jun 16, 2019 12:16 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sailing /Rowing dinghy

One downside is that what you have will not propel your boat to safety when necessary. If you have considered this and are OK with it, fine. But, if you haven't considered this, you need to re-think. You are going to places that you will need to self-rescue, and/or move your boat when you have no wind and no motor. It is hard to beat all of the advantages of a traditional RIB with a 10-20hp 2 cycle motor. I know of 2 SMs which were moved away from dangerous situations with a dinghy lashed to the stern quarter.

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse

Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners

720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

My Calendar 

Yacht School

 

 

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 10:48 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all,
Last year we built a 11.5 ft sailing/rowing dinghy in hopes that it would work as a tender instead of carrying gasoline and gasoline motor(s).  RIBs are nearly impossible to row, can’t sail them, but they are very stable and carry 4 people easily.

The Dink we built is a Chesapeake Light Craft PassageMaker design that was originally sold as a nesting hull.  It’s 11.5 ft LOA , rows easily, and sails well.  When both parts are bolted together it only weighs ~95 lbs.  Sounds great so far, eh?

Here are the down sides:
*It doesn’t truly nest.  So we’re now storing 11.5ft of hull in two parts.  The bigger aft part sets nicely on the aft deck,  we weren’t comfortable lashing the bow section on the forward deck, so it ended up on the aft deck over the lazarette...so we can’t access the lazarette at sea without moving it.

*It is so lightly built that it bounces around pretty violently when alongside Kristy in any kind of chop.  It is also under built and we had to add strength to the bulkheads where the pieces bolt together because of cracks that developed at the joint between planks and bulkheads.

*The rig is a gunter style Marconi sloop with a small jib.  It takes about 45 min to rig and derig.  It sails well but can’t be reefed as currently set up.  With the gunter spar it would take a major overhaul to rig for reefing and it would be an involved process, not something that would be easy and quick. When rigged and not sailing the boom is in the way of rowing.  

*It will carry 4 adults, but doing that and sailing would be impossible, I think.

We bought a Torqeedo electric outboard which pushes her along adequately, but it isn’t built tough enough for daily use in salt water.

i guess we will have to go back to the RIB and gas outboard.  Hoping someone out there has experience with a great nesting dinghy that’s truly built for use as a cruising tender.  There are a couple others that look better than the CLC PassageMaker but probably have many of the same issues.

Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM 243

On Tue, 18 Jun. 2019 at 4:38 am, Eric Meury

<ericmeury@...> wrote:

We went tjr Portaboat route.   We have a 8hp two stroke and also have inflatable dinghy dogs for it so it is extremely stable and we can snorkle off the sides.   All in all it is the dinghy I hate the least

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 2:33 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Bill, I agree with you, we have not needed to use our dinghy to propel us yet,but review how we would do that,in case we need to deploy in an emergency. I also have rescued a sailboat just before it was going up on a reef on the south coast of Grenada with my rib and its 18 hp two stroke. We also dinghy miles to snorkel and get groceries . Our 10.5 aluminum rib only weighs 98 lbs. ,we love it and it can do 25 to 30 mph in flat water ,just measured by my brother next to me on his jet ski the other day. BTW, we store two six gal. fuel tanks tied to the stanchions ,one is normally in the dinghy.

Pat

SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Jun 16, 2019 12:16 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sailing /Rowing dinghy

One downside is that what you have will not propel your boat to safety when necessary. If you have considered this and are OK with it, fine. But, if you haven't considered this, you need to re-think. You are going to places that you will need to self-rescue, and/or move your boat when you have no wind and no motor. It is hard to beat all of the advantages of a traditional RIB with a 10-20hp 2 cycle motor. I know of 2 SMs which were moved away from dangerous situations with a dinghy lashed to the stern quarter.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse

Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners

720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

My Calendar 

Yacht School

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 10:48 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi all,
Last year we built a 11.5 ft sailing/rowing dinghy in hopes that it would work as a tender instead of carrying gasoline and gasoline motor(s).  RIBs are nearly impossible to row, can’t sail them, but they are very stable and carry 4 people easily.

The Dink we built is a Chesapeake Light Craft PassageMaker design that was originally sold as a nesting hull.  It’s 11.5 ft LOA , rows easily, and sails well.  When both parts are bolted together it only weighs ~95 lbs.  Sounds great so far, eh?

Here are the down sides:
*It doesn’t truly nest.  So we’re now storing 11.5ft of hull in two parts.  The bigger aft part sets nicely on the aft deck,  we weren’t comfortable lashing the bow section on the forward deck, so it ended up on the aft deck over the lazarette...so we can’t access the lazarette at sea without moving it.

*It is so lightly built that it bounces around pretty violently when alongside Kristy in any kind of chop.  It is also under built and we had to add strength to the bulkheads where the pieces bolt together because of cracks that developed at the joint between planks and bulkheads.

*The rig is a gunter style Marconi sloop with a small jib.  It takes about 45 min to rig and derig.  It sails well but can’t be reefed as currently set up.  With the gunter spar it would take a major overhaul to rig for reefing and it would be an involved process, not something that would be easy and quick. When rigged and not sailing the boom is in the way of rowing.  

*It will carry 4 adults, but doing that and sailing would be impossible, I think.

We bought a Torqeedo electric outboard which pushes her along adequately, but it isn’t built tough enough for daily use in salt water.

i guess we will have to go back to the RIB and gas outboard.  Hoping someone out there has experience with a great nesting dinghy that’s truly built for use as a cruising tender.  There are a couple others that look better than the CLC PassageMaker but probably have many of the same issues.

Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM 243

On 18 June 2019 at 10:44 Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Ouch !

I have seen stanchions / lifelines damaged on boats that had "stuff" lashed to them after tough up wind passages.
Our SSB tuner is not in the lazarette, nor do we have power supplies or outlets in there.
Our fuel tank doesn't smell and doesn't leak.

Sorry

Alan
Elyse SM437

On Jun 17, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Jose Venegas via Groups.Io <josegvenegas=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

It uses the additional halliard above and the hole in the anchor chain roller that seems standard on my boat. Just enough distance from the genoa

On Jun 17, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Jose Venegas via Groups.Io <josegvenegas@...> wrote:

James,
I have an asymmetric spy on a top-down furling RollGen 20 by Bamar. 
Spy dimensions:

Luff=17.07mtr

Leech=15.4 mtr

Foot=7.9mtr

SMG=7.105mtr

I have enjoyed it for more than 6 years with the main advantage of being able to deploy and furl back with just my wife, something that is a major plus for me.  Also, it takes a lot of turns to furl but we use the electric winch to do it.

It is also important to make sure that the apparent wind is not less than 90 degrees or more than ~150 degrees to furl correctly.

A couple of times we totally lost all wind and furling could be done poorly and had to be redone as soon as we got back some wind. 
Here are a couple of  pix of Ipanema under spy

Jose 
Ipanema SM 2K 278
Boston
 <P1030878.JPG.JPG><IMG_3296.jpg.jpg>asym.

 

On Jun 17, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Jose Venegas via Groups.Io <josegvenegas@...> wrote:

James,
I have an asymmetric spy on a top-down furling RollGen 20 by Bamar. 
Spy dimensions:

Luff=17.07mtr

Leech=15.4 mtr

Foot=7.9mtr

SMG=7.105mtr

I have enjoyed it for more than 6 years with the main advantage of being able to deploy and furl back with just my wife, something that is a major plus for me.  Also, it takes a lot of turns to furl but we use the electric winch to do it.

It is also important to make sure that the apparent wind is not less than 90 degrees or more than ~150 degrees to furl correctly.

A couple of times we totally lost all wind and furling could be done poorly and had to be redone as soon as we got back some wind. 
Here are a couple of  pix of Ipanema under spy

Jose 
Ipanema SM 2K 278
Boston
 <P1030878.JPG.JPG><IMG_3296.jpg.jpg>asym.

 

On 17 Jun 2019, at 19:11, Willem Kroes <kavanga@...> wrote:

Dear Amelians,

After installing a new kit with gears and bearings from Amel last October and after using the bow thruster not more than 12 times the gears are worn out like in October.

The diagnosis of the mechanic with some experience with Amel boats is that there was too much play between the vertical and horizontal gears and that spacers or shims are needed add to the bearings in order to set the gear wheels in a proper fixed position.

First question: is Amel selling a set of shims with different thickness (0.10 to 0.50 mm)?

Second question: What is your opinion about what the mechanic told me?

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM#351  KAVANGA

Now at anchor near the Aktio marina close to Preveza in Greece