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Re: Flag etiquette

Peter Forbes
 

Dear Joerg,

Yes on Carango [Amel 54] I flew the ensign at the stern (but not on open Ocean) only anchored or on coastal sailing. And the Burgee on a huge in my case 1.5 meter pole which took the burgee above all others antennas and the like on top of the main mast. I never put the ensign at the top of the mizzen mast but the rules say you can.

Good luck - not sure what USA yachts do. 

Peter
Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory
Farnham
Blandford
Dorset
DT11 8DE




On 19 Jun 2019, at 15:19, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

Very helpful, Peter.  So at anchor I must carry the ensign in the standard position for any Amel: at the aft rail.  But while underway, I can carry it either in the same position or, alternatively, at the top of the mizzen mast if the standard position is "impractical".  That's certainly what we always did on my family's ketch many moons ago.  dThat gets it out of the way of the solar panels and out of earshot.  Now if only the US Power Squadron would agree with those rules - mine is a US flagged vessel after all.   :<).   Additional problem is all those antennas at the top of the mizzen mast - I don't want the flag to get into the way of those.  Hence my question whether anyone has done it and what the mechanics look like.  Do you need a very long pigstick?  




Re: Volvo TMD22 Exhaust Elbow

Craig Briggs
 

Ian,
Parts4Engines lists this at $270 in Aluminum (no VAT if shipped to US). Suspect custom SS will be $$. You might also try Trans Atlantic Diesel for a Perkins M80T.
Craig, SN68


Re: Volvo TMD22 Exhaust Elbow

 

Ian,

HDI is a "Yacht School Preferred Vendor" and makes One-Piece Casted (not machined) Stainless Steel Exhaust Elbows. Their "AD" model is what I believe you want. Their price is $455 less your Yacht School discount. Here is a link to their exhaust listings:  

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 11:51 AM Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:
I want to replace the exhaust elbow on my Volvo TMD22. As usual, Volvo OEM price is very high. $1,050USD. There is an aftermarket supplier in the U.K. (Parts4Engines) listing a SS elbow for $500. Has anyone had their elbow custom machined in SS and if so, what was the price?

Many thanks.

Ian
Loca Lola II
SM153
Us East Coast


Volvo TMD22 Exhaust Elbow

Ian Townsend
 
Edited

I want to replace the exhaust elbow on my Volvo TMD22. As usual, Volvo OEM price is very high. $1,050USD. There is an aftermarket supplier in the U.K. (Parts4Engines) listing a SS elbow for $500. Has anyone had their elbow custom machined in SS and if so, what was the price?

Many thanks.

Ian
Loca Lola II
SM153
US East Coast


Re: Flag etiquette

Joerg Esdorn
 

Very helpful, Peter.  So at anchor I must carry the ensign in the standard position for any Amel: at the aft rail.  But while underway, I can carry it either in the same position or, alternatively, at the top of the mizzen mast if the standard position is "impractical".  That's certainly what we always did on my family's ketch many moons ago.  dThat gets it out of the way of the solar panels and out of earshot.  Now if only the US Power Squadron would agree with those rules - mine is a US flagged vessel after all.   :<).   Additional problem is all those antennas at the top of the mizzen mast - I don't want the flag to get into the way of those.  Hence my question whether anyone has done it and what the mechanics look like.  Do you need a very long pigstick?  



Re: BOW THRUSTER SANTORIN OIL

Craig Briggs
 

Bernd,
Just fill it until you see the oil. Could be about the 3/10ths liter Bill notes. Btw, I usually hang mine upside down overnight to thoroughly drain the old oil.
Craig SN68 Sangaris


Re: Flag etiquette

Craig Briggs
 

Great point, Davi. In addition to flying a courtesy flag, we always made it a point to pick up an inexpensive country flag on a stick at a local souvenir shop when we entered a new country and have it at the helm. Then whenever a local boat would wave at us upon seeing our US Flag, we'd wave the little flag back - always got a great reception.
Craig SN68 Sangaris


Re: Flag etiquette

Peter Forbes
 

I attach herewith a copy of the rules.

I think it looks as if rule 33 c applies. ILLUSTRATION 4A - the centre illustration.    

Burgee should be at the top of the mast!


So for any Amel ketch it should be on a staff at low level on the rear rail - as allowed for on my Amel 54.

That’s certainly where I carried it round the World.

I hope that helps?

Anyone interested in "Dress Overall”  - rules?  Thank stop Ian for getting those words in the right order!

Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
In La Rochelle - FOR SALE.

On 19 Jun 2019, at 12:28, ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

Peter,

 I'm sure the RYS would call it  " dress overall" ! 

 Ian & Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Greece

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...>
Sent: 19 June 2019 10:00
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Flag etiquette
 
I will get out my copy of the ROYAL YACH SQUADRON instructions on this and send you a photocopy on this and how to ‘dress all over’ - should be able to do that on Friday.

best wishes

Peter

Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
La Rochelle FOR SALE.

On 19 Jun 2019, at 08:30, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

I don't know much about where to fly my own flag (it's off the stern on the Amel pole, about an inch per foot of boat as is about right, and in any case I don't care much as it is a convenience country). But I do know that hanging around here in Sicily the last few months, I have seen exactly ZERO visiting boats who bothered to put up the Sicilian flag (same went in Sardinia last month before here). Went looking for one after a week in port, found it, hoisted it right below the Italian courtesy, and watched the attitudes of anybody local change immediately from stranger-friendly to family-friendly. A number of direct positive comments as well, including from the Costeria who waved instead of boarded. Don't neglect local flags because here, as an example, Sicilians consider themselves more Sicilian than actual Italian. Same for Sardinia, and I'm sure many other regions around the world. Just my 2 cents on flags....



Re: Flag etiquette

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Peter,

 I'm sure the RYS would call it  " dress overall" ! 

 Ian & Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Greece


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...>
Sent: 19 June 2019 10:00
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Flag etiquette
 
I will get out my copy of the ROYAL YACH SQUADRON instructions on this and send you a photocopy on this and how to ‘dress all over’ - should be able to do that on Friday.

best wishes

Peter

Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
La Rochelle FOR SALE.

On 19 Jun 2019, at 08:30, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

I don't know much about where to fly my own flag (it's off the stern on the Amel pole, about an inch per foot of boat as is about right, and in any case I don't care much as it is a convenience country). But I do know that hanging around here in Sicily the last few months, I have seen exactly ZERO visiting boats who bothered to put up the Sicilian flag (same went in Sardinia last month before here). Went looking for one after a week in port, found it, hoisted it right below the Italian courtesy, and watched the attitudes of anybody local change immediately from stranger-friendly to family-friendly. A number of direct positive comments as well, including from the Costeria who waved instead of boarded. Don't neglect local flags because here, as an example, Sicilians consider themselves more Sicilian than actual Italian. Same for Sardinia, and I'm sure many other regions around the world. Just my 2 cents on flags....


Re: Flag etiquette

Peter Forbes
 

I will get out my copy of the ROYAL YACH SQUADRON instructions on this and send you a photocopy on this and how to ‘dress all over’ - should be able to do that on Friday.

best wishes

Peter

Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
La Rochelle FOR SALE.

On 19 Jun 2019, at 08:30, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

I don't know much about where to fly my own flag (it's off the stern on the Amel pole, about an inch per foot of boat as is about right, and in any case I don't care much as it is a convenience country). But I do know that hanging around here in Sicily the last few months, I have seen exactly ZERO visiting boats who bothered to put up the Sicilian flag (same went in Sardinia last month before here). Went looking for one after a week in port, found it, hoisted it right below the Italian courtesy, and watched the attitudes of anybody local change immediately from stranger-friendly to family-friendly. A number of direct positive comments as well, including from the Costeria who waved instead of boarded. Don't neglect local flags because here, as an example, Sicilians consider themselves more Sicilian than actual Italian. Same for Sardinia, and I'm sure many other regions around the world. Just my 2 cents on flags....


Re: Gaining Access to the upright Freezer in the Galley

Peter Forbes
 

Porter,

Yes I did that and I’m no expert craftsman. I can’t remember exactly how but it is all quite clear as you progress. I seem to remember that you do have to remove the cross bar of wood at the base front edge and then the whole device slides out quite easily.

Sorry not to be more specific but just to reassure it is not that difficult.

Peter
Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
FOR SALE IN LA ROCHELLE

On 19 Jun 2019, at 07:42, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Hello gents (and ladies)

I am wondering if anyone on the A-54 has been able to get access to the guts of the upright fridge/freezer in the galley. I think we’ve had a gas leak and need to re-braze and the access is minimal through the little mesh grate.


What’s the process?  On the SM2k (thanks for the gander Quetzal) it’s a simple 2 bolts in front (aft) of the washing machine.

Any thoughts or tips would be quite appreciated. The fridge guy is 90$/hr here in Tahiti. I’d rather not use his expertise on removal!

Thanks as always to this great brain trust.


Porter
A54-152
S/V Ibis. Tahiti.





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Re: Flag etiquette

Davi Rozgonyi
 

I don't know much about where to fly my own flag (it's off the stern on the Amel pole, about an inch per foot of boat as is about right, and in any case I don't care much as it is a convenience country). But I do know that hanging around here in Sicily the last few months, I have seen exactly ZERO visiting boats who bothered to put up the Sicilian flag (same went in Sardinia last month before here). Went looking for one after a week in port, found it, hoisted it right below the Italian courtesy, and watched the attitudes of anybody local change immediately from stranger-friendly to family-friendly. A number of direct positive comments as well, including from the Costeria who waved instead of boarded. Don't neglect local flags because here, as an example, Sicilians consider themselves more Sicilian than actual Italian. Same for Sardinia, and I'm sure many other regions around the world. Just my 2 cents on flags....


Gaining Access to the upright Freezer in the Galley

Porter McRoberts
 

Hello gents (and ladies)

I am wondering if anyone on the A-54 has been able to get access to the guts of the upright fridge/freezer in the galley. I think we’ve had a gas leak and need to re-braze and the access is minimal through the little mesh grate.


What’s the process? On the SM2k (thanks for the gander Quetzal) it’s a simple 2 bolts in front (aft) of the washing machine.

Any thoughts or tips would be quite appreciated. The fridge guy is 90$/hr here in Tahiti. I’d rather not use his expertise on removal!

Thanks as always to this great brain trust.


Porter
A54-152
S/V Ibis. Tahiti.





Excuse the errors.
Sent from my IPhone
Www.fouribis.com


Re: BOW THRUSTER SANTORIN OIL

 

I thought it was the same 0.3 liter

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 6:50 PM Bernd Spanner <bernd.spanner@...> wrote:
Dear all!
I will change my bowthruster seals and also want to change the oil in the thruster.
I found info regarding the oil quantity on the SM, but nothing about how much oil goes into the thruster on a Santorin...
Thanks!

Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal 


BOW THRUSTER SANTORIN OIL

Bernd Spanner
 

Dear all!
I will change my bowthruster seals and also want to change the oil in the thruster.
I found info regarding the oil quantity on the SM, but nothing about how much oil goes into the thruster on a Santorin...
Thanks!

Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal 


Re: Flag etiquette

 

Actually the British Royal Yacht Clubs are. All of it started there.

We kept a copy aboard of Reeds Maritime Flags by Peter Johnson

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 4:47 PM Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:
I thought Bill Rouse was the Flag Police?  

http://svbebe.blogspot.com/2016/05/false-colors.html

Yep!  He is indeed!  ;)


--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Flag etiquette

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Good read and well stated Bill. I fly the ensign as large as I can with pride. I respect other nationalities who do the same. This fellow sounds like someone who wants the cake with no hand in baking it or even being in the bakery. 
Best regards,
Chuck 


On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 5:47 PM Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:
I thought Bill Rouse was the Flag Police?  

http://svbebe.blogspot.com/2016/05/false-colors.html

Yep!  He is indeed!  ;)


--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Flag etiquette

Mark McGovern
 

I thought Bill Rouse was the Flag Police?  

http://svbebe.blogspot.com/2016/05/false-colors.html

Yep!  He is indeed!  ;)


--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Flag etiquette

Craig Briggs
 

Aha! Time for the Flag Police!
USPower Squadron says from the end of the gaff, if you've got one, otherwise from a pole at the stern, which if it can't be in the middle should preferably be on the starboard side. (Maybe the French prefer the port side?)
The State of Maryland actually has a law that says, for a ketch rig, either at the stern staff (doesn't say middle, port or starboard - whew!) or 2/3's up the leach of the mizzen (or at the gaff, if so rigged). They also require the flag to be a Yacht Ensign (13 stars and an anchor, not a US country flag). Odd law that you can't fly an American Flag on your boat.
Other "authorities" say you can fly it from the backstay, rather than the leach of the mizzen, and Captain Henri said you can fly it from the topping lift.
I"m sure there are 67 other versions of this, so no need to get our knickers in a bunch (well, unless you're in Maryland - jeees, an actual law.)
Cheers, Craig SN68 Sangaris


Flag etiquette

Joerg Esdorn
 

I believe that the “proper” way to fly the national ensign on a ketch is 2/3 up the topping lift or on the top of the mizzen mast.  I have, of course, the stern mounted flag pole Amel provides.   Has anyone rigged the “proper” way on their boat?  I’d be very interested in the mechanics.  For one, I’d like to get the flag where I can’t hear it flogging around in a blow.  

Joerg Esdorn 
A55 Kincsem