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Re: Eberspacher 5L diesel heater

karkauai
 

Hi Duane,
where are you now?  There’s a good guy in Annapolis area who was recommended by Coastal Climate Control.  He works on Climma, Frigoboat, and Espar and....
His name is Mike Coleman, (443) 351-7827, AStarYachtServices@...

Hope you get it working, I’m going to be working on mine this summer, too.
Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM243


Re: Material used by Amel on Super Maramus at the base of the masts

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Bill,

You assumptions are only half correct. My mizzen has the same dark material underneath. The main has the lighter material. This was replaced at the time I purchased the boat. Amel Martinique has a special tool for this, a sort of modified jack to lift the mast just a bit for this.
If I were to guess both slabs are made out of solid polyurethane. Apparently the quality of the dark one is better. I may also be that the lighter one is actually an very dense form of polyurethane foam, so it has airbubbles inside contary to the mizzen mast version. Why they chose to change it I don’t know, maybe to dampen the shockloads when in heavy seas.

Just my 2 cents.

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121


Material used by Amel on Super Maramus at the base of the masts

 

What is the material Amel used on a Super Maramu mast bases and where can it be purchased? Apparently it is a different material installed on 54s and later because the material used on later model Amels does not seem to last as long.  

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Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Eberspacher 5L diesel heater

Duane Siegfri
 

Alan,

Symptons:  When I turn the dial to ventilate, or one of the heat settings, the green indicator light in the dial comes on, but nothing else happens.  No heat, no fan.  

The boatyard I was in (Jamestown RI), I'm not sure who the subcontractor was.

Duane


Re: Boston E 14, new Bamar Furler

Arno Luijten
 

I examined them closely and did notice some changes between the old and the new. They may have improved the robustness as the old one did like to fail.  Mine were both broken.
Be aware the new furlers use additional wires

I posted a whole story about this some months ago. 

Cheers,

Arno


Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

ngtnewington Newington
 

Thanks  Bill, 
I am pretty sure all is fine but next time I haul I will double check for any play beyond 8-10mm laterally.
Nick


On 21 Jun 2019, at 20:31, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Nick, same as SM. There is a rubber bushing sleeved around that bolt. This is exactly what I am talking about. 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 9:06 AM ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill,
On the 54 there is a bolt covered in black mastic from the bottom of the C drive to the iron keel. Presumably this anchors the C drive. Is there any adjustments or anything to look out for?
Nick
Amelia AML54-019 in Gaios Paxos


On 21 Jun 2019, at 16:34, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

On a C-Drives older than 1999, don't forget to check the C-Drive foot for side-to-side movement by pushing on the aft end of the foot. No more than 8-10mm. If you have more, remove the foot bolt to the ballast and replace the bushing which is made of heavy rubber hose. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 4:28 AM ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi I am at Lakka, but moving round to Gaios this pm.
Nick
> On 21 Jun 2019, at 10:36, arthur saftlas <art@...> wrote:
>
> I have heard Yanmar is particularly bad with going thru mounts. Some engines do not run smoothly, some do.
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Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

 

Nick, same as SM. There is a rubber bushing sleeved around that bolt. This is exactly what I am talking about. 


On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 9:06 AM ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Bill,
On the 54 there is a bolt covered in black mastic from the bottom of the C drive to the iron keel. Presumably this anchors the C drive. Is there any adjustments or anything to look out for?
Nick
Amelia AML54-019 in Gaios Paxos


On 21 Jun 2019, at 16:34, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

On a C-Drives older than 1999, don't forget to check the C-Drive foot for side-to-side movement by pushing on the aft end of the foot. No more than 8-10mm. If you have more, remove the foot bolt to the ballast and replace the bushing which is made of heavy rubber hose. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 4:28 AM ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi I am at Lakka, but moving round to Gaios this pm.
Nick
> On 21 Jun 2019, at 10:36, arthur saftlas <art@...> wrote:
>
> I have heard Yanmar is particularly bad with going thru mounts. Some engines do not run smoothly, some do.
>
>
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>





Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

Mark Erdos
 

Jose,

 

Very cool!

 

I guess I have one more question. Where did you buy this and do you have part number? (that might be two questions)

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jose Venegas via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 1:04 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

 

 

 Did you have to modify the ballooner and add a gaiter? 

NO

Where do you attach it to on the foredeck?

Directly to the anchor support plate standard hole image1.png

 




Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

Jose Venegas
 


 Did you have to modify the ballooner and add a gaiter? 

NO

Where do you attach it to on the foredeck?

Directly to the anchor support plate standard hole image1.png




Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Thank you Bill, I will check this point at first,

Jean Luc MERTZ

On CottonBay


Le 21/06/2019 à 15:34, CW Bill Rouse a écrit :
On a C-Drives older than 1999, don't forget to check the C-Drive foot for side-to-side movement by pushing on the aft end of the foot. No more than 8-10mm. If you have more, remove the foot bolt to the ballast and replace the bushing which is made of heavy rubber hose. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 4:28 AM ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi I am at Lakka, but moving round to Gaios this pm.
Nick
> On 21 Jun 2019, at 10:36, arthur saftlas <art@...> wrote:
>
> I have heard Yanmar is particularly bad with going thru mounts. Some engines do not run smoothly, some do.
>
>
>
>





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Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Thank you for the tip I will check it

Merci Beaucoup

Jean Luc MERTZ

On CottonBay


Le 21/06/2019 à 16:06, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io a écrit :
Hi Bill,
On the 54 there is a bolt covered in black mastic from the bottom of the C drive to the iron keel. Presumably this anchors the C drive. Is there any adjustments or anything to look out for?
Nick
Amelia AML54-019 in Gaios Paxos


On 21 Jun 2019, at 16:34, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

On a C-Drives older than 1999, don't forget to check the C-Drive foot for side-to-side movement by pushing on the aft end of the foot. No more than 8-10mm. If you have more, remove the foot bolt to the ballast and replace the bushing which is made of heavy rubber hose. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 4:28 AM ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi I am at Lakka, but moving round to Gaios this pm.
Nick
> On 21 Jun 2019, at 10:36, arthur saftlas <art@...> wrote:
>
> I have heard Yanmar is particularly bad with going thru mounts. Some engines do not run smoothly, some do.
>
>
>
>





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Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Yes they do and the mechanical gay was experiment with AMEL SM

Merci

JLMERTZ


Le 21/06/2019 à 10:52, eric freedman a écrit :

Did they use the special alignment tool when installing the engine back into the C drive?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of jlm@...
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 1:44 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

 

Hello everyone

I have two friends who have a SM (1997 and 1999) who after having changed all the mounts  and the coupling of the engine have a significant residual vibration.

Both have the distinction of having a fixed three-blade propeller.

Would there be in our group a person who had this problem or could have a track?
Jean Luc
CottonBay


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Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Yes they do and the mechanical gay was experiment with AMEL SM

Merci

JLMERTZ


Le 21/06/2019 à 10:52, eric freedman a écrit :

Did they use the special alignment tool when installing the engine back into the C drive?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of jlm@...
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 1:44 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

 

Hello everyone

I have two friends who have a SM (1997 and 1999) who after having changed all the mounts  and the coupling of the engine have a significant residual vibration.

Both have the distinction of having a fixed three-blade propeller.

Would there be in our group a person who had this problem or could have a track?
Jean Luc
CottonBay


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Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Super Nick,

It is exactly my conclusion bat the two fixed prop are perfect, so I could not image it could be possible ...

Before to turn back to Autoprop (actually as spare) I will check the big bolt on the bottom of the C-drive that fixed it  on the keel ...

Merci beaucoup for your help full answer ...

Jean Luc MERTZ

on CottonBay



Le 21/06/2019 à 08:50, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io a écrit :
On my last boat I used to have a fixed three blade prop and there was some vibration. It was a traditional shaft  and stern tube arrangement. I spent ages realigning the engine. Then I pulled the shaft and sent it with the prop to a machine shop. The shaft was true but the prop was not balanced properly. I decided to buy a feathering prop and keep the old as a spare. No more vibration....So it could be the prop.
Nick
Amelia AML 54-019 Paxos


On 21 Jun 2019, at 08:43, "jlm@..." <jlm@...> wrote:

Hello everyone
I have two friends who have a SM (1997 and 1999) who after having changed all the mounts  and the coupling of the engine have a significant residual vibration.
Both have the distinction of having a fixed three-blade propeller.
Would there be in our group a person who had this problem or could have a track?
Jean Luc
CottonBay

Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com


Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi Bill,
On the 54 there is a bolt covered in black mastic from the bottom of the C drive to the iron keel. Presumably this anchors the C drive. Is there any adjustments or anything to look out for?
Nick
Amelia AML54-019 in Gaios Paxos


On 21 Jun 2019, at 16:34, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

On a C-Drives older than 1999, don't forget to check the C-Drive foot for side-to-side movement by pushing on the aft end of the foot. No more than 8-10mm. If you have more, remove the foot bolt to the ballast and replace the bushing which is made of heavy rubber hose. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 4:28 AM ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi I am at Lakka, but moving round to Gaios this pm.
Nick
> On 21 Jun 2019, at 10:36, arthur saftlas <art@...> wrote:
>
> I have heard Yanmar is particularly bad with going thru mounts. Some engines do not run smoothly, some do.
>
>
>
>





Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

 

On a C-Drives older than 1999, don't forget to check the C-Drive foot for side-to-side movement by pushing on the aft end of the foot. No more than 8-10mm. If you have more, remove the foot bolt to the ballast and replace the bushing which is made of heavy rubber hose. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 4:28 AM ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi I am at Lakka, but moving round to Gaios this pm.
Nick
> On 21 Jun 2019, at 10:36, arthur saftlas <art@...> wrote:
>
> I have heard Yanmar is particularly bad with going thru mounts. Some engines do not run smoothly, some do.
>
>
>
>





Re: Eberspacher 5L diesel heater

Alan Grayson
 

Hi Duane, what were your symptoms? How long does it run on heat mode? Does the thermostat shut it down when it's warm?
Mine runs for about 7 mins just fine then stops. It has done this for a while but I have never been in a temp below 70 degrees. Tomorrow is forecast for 64 so I will try again.
Who did you have work on it as I can't seem to find anyone?
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai. SM 406
Washington DC
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io <carlylelk@...>
Sent: Friday, 21 June 2019 3:07:28 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Eberspacher 5L diesel heater
 
Hi all,

We have the 5L diesel heater on Wanderer.  It wasn't working when we bought the boat, and I had it checked when we were in Jamestown last August.  The tech right away found it was the PCB that was the problem, "corrosion".  He replaced it and Voila! it worked!  He told me to run the heater once a month to keep it dry.

What I really liked about this unit, is that when it's raining and the boat is closed up, we can turn on the "ventilation" mode where only the fan runs but no diesel is burned.  It brings in outside air and keeps the boat cooler.  Also, when it's cold, it takes outside air with low humidity, heats it, lowering the relative humidity even more resulting in less humidity problems in the winter.

Now ten months later we're back to it doesn't work and it has the same symptoms.  It seems the PCB is again corroded.  The PCB runs $250.  Has anyone else had this problem?   Is the unit not made for marine service?  Most of the videos I've seen for repair advice are related to van installations.  I plan to hit liberally with some Corrosion-X but not sure that's a solution.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Boston E 14, new Bamar Furler

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

The old E14 will work fine.
Jeff s/v Spirit Amel 54 #14

On June 20, 2019 at 12:54 PM Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...> wrote:

I bought a Boxtron E14 in January 17. The unit that was delivered recently together with the new Furler looks the same to me. Am I missing something or can I just leave the existing E14 in place when changing the furler HW?

Best regards,
Alex
SY NO STRESS 
AMEL54 #15
 

 


Re: Eberspacher 5L diesel heater

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi,
I spray all electrical connections with marine crc, or WD 40 or Corrosion x. All work for me and avoid these corrosion problems.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On 21 June 2019 at 19:11 Dave Ritten <daveritten@...> wrote:


Sounds like you should consider applying a “conformal coating” to the PCB. This is like a thick lacquer that prevents corrosion and is a standard process in preparing PCBs for harsh environments. It is s PITA for manufacturers as they have to mask off connectors, relays etc but pretty easy to do on a one off retrofit basis. Most electronics hobbyist stores carry spray cans of the stuff. I had same problem with the rear SAM (computer) module in my Merc and gave a spray coating and no more issues. Hope this helps.
Dave

--
Dave Ritten
Auckland
Prospective SM Owner



Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi I am at Lakka, but moving round to Gaios this pm.
Nick

On 21 Jun 2019, at 10:36, arthur saftlas <art@...> wrote:

I have heard Yanmar is particularly bad with going thru mounts. Some engines do not run smoothly, some do.