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Re: Pulling the mast to rerig
Alan,
With your new rigging coming from ACMO and therefore ready to hang, plus your plan to do it yourself anyway, just do it all yourself without pulling the mast. Katherine and I did ours in the water over just a few days, taking it slow to minimize the time each day in the bosun's chair. It's easy-peasy and you'll have the confidence of knowing it's done correctly. It ain't rocket science. If you want to refresh the mast wiring while you're at it, that's pretty easy too. I recall stepping aboard one of this forum's member's SM's when he first got it and had had it "professionally" re-rigged after shipping. First thing I saw was no bolts in the backstay turnbuckle - and we were to jump offshore for a few days; yikes. As the saying goes, if you want it done right, do it yourself. Or, if you're not up to diy, "you get what you inspect, not what you expect". Cheers, Craig SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Masse - and Masse + lights
Dear Amel Group Friends
I’m asking you guys if someone had the same or similar experience and what is your advice for my question:
I have a Negative Leak light on the 24V Pump-Motor of the Dessalator Duo. There is a Bonding wire (yellow/green) that runs from the Bonding strap in the grey-water sink to the Dessalator. But this wire is disconnected on the Dessalator unit. When I’m connecting the 24v pump directly to the bonding system the negative leak remains. Light is still on.
The light does only switching OFF when I’m switching the pump on, or if I’m disconnecting the negative wire. BTW: I cannot see any corrosion on the Dessalator unit. The DC motor itself has no contact to saltwater, - it's only the pressure pump in contact with saltwater (but no 24V connection).
- Does it mean I need a new 24V DC Motor? - Are there any longterm experiences what can happen if a negative (or positive) light is not fixed? - What is the affect and result of a longterm neg. vs pos. leak?
It’s very easy to get miliAmps of current on a 24V motor with brushes and wires, etc. Are we AMELies to paranoid with these lights?
Best regards Ruedi P.S. I still not fully understand how these lights working. To my understanding it is indication a leak from Masse - and Masse + against the AMEL bonding system. Maybe I’m wrong? Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Rouse <brouse@...> Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Datum: Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2019 um 14:21 An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Masse - and Masse + lights T In the circumstance you describe, the light indicates that there is a connection (resistance) between either the positive or negative and the case of the macerator pump. That "connection" is usually saltwater leaking past the seal on the pump. It is an "early warning system" that your seal is leaking and your pump will fail. A switch such as you suggest will certainly be a "see no evil" solution.🙈😀 You could accomplish the same by disconnection the yellow/green wire from the case, but, don't you really want to know when you have a seal leak.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 8:25 PM <derickgates@...> wrote: [Edited Message Follows]
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Re: Pulling the mast to rerig
Hi Allen,
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I had my rigging changed with mast up in Grenada by “Turbulence” rigging. It took a couple of days, and was done in pairs, so say both port and starboard cap shrouds were taken off, then new made up and fitted, tensioned snug. Etc until the whole job was done. Then finally tuned and fully tensioned. In terms of inspecting the mast, I believe it is easier whilst up apart from seeing the underside of the bottom where it is stepped. Nick Amelia near Corfu AML 54-019
On 2 Jul 2019, at 05:21, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: Pulling the mast to rerig
eric freedman
Hi Alan, I had Kimberlite re-rigged by the Amel riggers in Martinique last year. It was beautiful to watch. It took two men 2 days to do with the mast in place. They took down the port and starboard wires in pairs , made up the rigging with Acmo components and put them back in place. While they were changing the rigging another person was polishing the chainplates.
After watching this done I cannot understand why the rigger you spoke to wants to take down the mast. While the headstay was down they also rebuilt the genoa furler.
I would suggest you speak to another rigger, They can inspect the top of the mast in place.. If I am not mistaken Amel suggests every 15 years, My rigging was 16 years old. I had them cut open a few swages and no rust in them and no problems after 80,000 miles.
Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Hello, I'm about to rerig our Super Maramu and the riggers are saying that they would prefer to pull the masts and that it should be done every 7 years or so anyway.
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Re: Pulling the mast to rerig
Alan, I strongly believe that "easier" is the key word. I think you should consider other riggers. I also believe that this re-rig with unstepping masts will be more costly than necessary. Any rigger worth his salt can inspect every square inch of a mast by climbing the mast. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 (If I do not have your number in My Contacts, you will go to VoiceMail. Text me in advance with your number and I'll white list it.)
On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:31 PM Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:
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Re: Pulling the mast to rerig
Alan Grayson
He said to be able to have a good look over everything and easier to do rigging with the mast pulled.
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M Yacht Rigging in Annapolis and yes I know you only recommend a couple of other riggers Alan Grayson From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: Monday, 1 July 2019 10:22:57 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Pulling the mast to rerig Did these riggers say why every seven years? And which riggers?
Best,
CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 1:49 PM Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:
Hello, I'm about to rerig our Super Maramu and the riggers are saying that they would prefer to pull the masts and that it should be done every 7 years or so anyway.
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Re: Pulling the mast to rerig
Did these riggers say why every seven years? And which riggers? Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 1:49 PM Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote: Hello, I'm about to rerig our Super Maramu and the riggers are saying that they would prefer to pull the masts and that it should be done every 7 years or so anyway.
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Pulling the mast to rerig
Alan Grayson
Hello, I'm about to rerig our Super Maramu and the riggers are saying that they would prefer to pull the masts and that it should be done every 7 years or so anyway.
I have ordered rigging from Acmo and the riggers are quite happy to let me change it out once it is on the ground which saves a few dollars. My questions are, does the rig need to be pulled every 7 years? While the mast is down what other maintenance items are advisable to do? I will be servicing motors, gearboxes, checking foils, swivels, running a couple of new wires and spot painting corrosion. What other important jobs am I missing? Regards Alan Grayson SV Ora Pai SM 406 Annapolis, MD
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Re: Carib Marine rigging email address
Dave Robards
His name is Gaetan Rivet. email is gaetan@.... I am here for the same purpose. Just talked to him this morning.
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Re: Code D sail
Code D is a type of cut of a sail. The words "Code D" could be registered in France by anyone. Frenc registration has no impact on anyone outside of the EU. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 (If I do not have your number in My Contacts, you will go to VoiceMail. Text me in advance with your number and I'll white list it.)
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 11:09 AM Gerald Bassin <gerald.bassin@...> wrote: Hi James
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Re: Carib Marine rigging email address
Roque
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Carib Marine rigging email address
Duane Siegfri
I'm having trouble contacting Gaetaen (sp?) at Caribbean Marine on Martinique. Does anyone have an email address for him? I'm trying to arrange for rigging for Wanderer in the next few months.
Thanks, Duane Wanderer, SM477
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Replacing rubber parts in Vetus Type 6 Flexible coupling 35mm shaft
James Alton
Hello,
Looking for advice on the disassembly and replacement of the rubber parts on what appears to be an original Vetus Type 6 Flexible coupling on the 35mm shaft of my1987 Marmu. (No C drive) If I will need any specialty tools such as the collar wrench for the job please let me know. Thanks, James Alton SV Sueno Maramu #220 Arbatax, Sardinia
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Re: Do you know S/V FAYAL owner?
Roque
Dear Mark Roque Attika A54 # 117 Santos- Brazil Em sex, 28 de jun de 2019 às 13:11, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> escreveu:
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Re: Code D sail
Gerald Bassin
Hi James
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I’ m not on the boat until december and do not have the exact data of the sail. Mine was made by the shop in Port Camargue S France in 2015. Mr Ferrari might have those data... It ‘s ca 130 sqm. Do you plan to have a bow sprit installed and where will the hallyard be (above or below the genoa hallyard)? I had quite a strugle to make everything wirk without chaffing issues Brgrds Gerald
On 29 Jun 2019, at 20:54, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:
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Re: Code D sail
James Cromie
Thank you Gerald. Yes, I am aware of the Delta Voiles sail. For lack of a better name, some seem to refer to it as a Code D, since it is somewhere between a Code zero and an asymmetric spinnaker. Sort of like Kleenex perhaps. Is there is another term I should use to refer to this type of sail? Do you happen to know the dimensions of your sail and cloth weight? Kindly, James
On Jun 29, 2019 12:08, Gerald Bassin <gerald.bassin@...> wrote:
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Re: Code D sail
Gerald Bassin
Hi James
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I use a code D. Code D is a registered name by Delta voiles.... So what the turkish sail maker is manufacturing is... something else maybe? Check : http://deltavoiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Voiles-de-Portant-cruising-CODE-D.pdf in french or in english https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7nPSdkYP98 Brgrds Gerald Bassin Jetlag SM#113
On 28/06/2019 16:08, James Cromie via Groups.Io wrote:
To any Amel SM owner with a code D sail:
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Re: Creampuff congratulations !!!
Thanks Eric!
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On
Behalf Of eric freedman
I JUST READ YOUR POST ABOUT YOUR TRANSIT IN THE OCC FACEBOOK PAGE. Great story. Congratulations again. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Creampuff congratulations !!!
eric freedman
I JUST READ YOUR POST ABOUT YOUR TRANSIT IN THE OCC FACEBOOK PAGE. Great story. Congratulations again. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Engine room blower- what I learned
Thomas Kleman
My 2 yr old mastervolt 100 amp charger failed; it's replacement (100 amp victron) did an ambient temp partial shutdown. My observation was that the 220 volt blower activated by the genset was very weak. I decided to replace it.
The blower that is failing is a Climma Compact EH blower. Tried new capacitor; still little air. At first wasn't sure why Amel chose this route and not a strong 220 volt industrial extractor fan. Now I know; 10 hrs of research yielded no suitable replacement in this area. Marine extractor blowers are all 12 or 24 volts. Nothing found that's 220. I considered a 12 or 24 volt replacement like the other blowers in the engine room. My 100 amp victron charger has starter battery connections I could use. I almost never run the genset without the big charger on. Problem- starter battery port on victron puts out 4 amps; blower needs 5.3. Considered connection 12 amp blower to genset alternator circuit but feared same problem. Considered 24 volt blower to a separate switch in galley; maybe I'd forget to turn it on and I like stupid-proof solutions. I grudgingly came to the conclusion that Amel did it this way because it was the most elegant solution. Called coastal climate control in Maryland. They had a slightly used blower with capacitor and steel mounting (exact match) for $130. Decided to go in that direction as my attempt to innovate yielded no better options. If this saves one owner some time it's worth it. Thomas Kleman SM2K 422
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