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Re: Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Mark McGovern
 

Will, 

Welcome to the group. There is a Santorin for sale in Martinique. I know it's not the US, but its a fairly easy trip from the US and it's listed at a fantastic price.  Here is a link from the listing on the Amel For Sale subgroup of this forum: 

https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/yachtforsale/message/16

My wife and I loved your YouTube channel, btw.  Say hi to Cat.

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Will Marks
 

Hey all, I am hoping that someone in this group would be so kind as to give us a tour of their US-based Santorin.

My wife and I are on the hunt for our next cruising boat to take on an open-ended world voyage starting 2020 and the Santorin appears to check all the boxes. We're moving up from a CS 36 Merlin that we spent a year cruising in the Caribbean and Bahamas. We're pretty well sold on the Santorin's basic design and construction, but it's been years since I've been on an SN (and never for her) so we would like to get on board one to confirm our feelings before we engage a broker and begin searching far and wide. 

We are currently land-bound in Chicago, so we'll gladly make a weekend trip out to anywhere on the US East or West coast. Please let me know if you'd be willing give us a tour.

Alternatively, if you happen to know of an SN for sale in the US (none currently listed on yachtworld), that would be great info.

All the best,
Will

William.L.Marks@...
312.203.4091

Re: owner of SY Phantom

Matt Salatino
 

Not to be negative, but ask specifically about fouling from sargasso weed. 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jul 10, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:

Hi Alex, I have just arrived at Jabin. Have you got hold of the owner? If not I’ll go to the office and try and get their details. I have a SM and am also interested in the watt and sea.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai SM 406


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 4:38:42 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] owner of SY Phantom
 
Hi,
Yesterday I saw SY Phantom in Jabin's  Yacht Yard in Annapolis. If the owner is on this forum or if someone knows him, I would like to get in touch and discuss his experience with the watt&sea generator that the boat has installed.
Fair winds,
Alex Ramseyer 
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54#15

Re: owner of SY Phantom

Alan Grayson
 

Hi Alex, I have just arrived at Jabin. Have you got hold of the owner? If not I’ll go to the office and try and get their details. I have a SM and am also interested in the watt and sea.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai SM 406


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 4:38:42 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] owner of SY Phantom
 
Hi,
Yesterday I saw SY Phantom in Jabin's  Yacht Yard in Annapolis. If the owner is on this forum or if someone knows him, I would like to get in touch and discuss his experience with the watt&sea generator that the boat has installed.
Fair winds,
Alex Ramseyer 
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54#15

Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

I was curious about this and emailed Desallator to confirm, and this is the reply I got from Martin de Jong:

 

Good morning Paul,

No this is not the proper way of doing it, this is a good possibility of ruining your membranes. The proper way is using the sterilizing cartridge and use it as it's supposed to.

Now if for one reason or another somebody did not do the sterilizing before leaving the boat then there is always the possibility flushing it without running it for 15 minutes and just do to normal startup after replacing the pre-filter of course.

 

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Willem Kroes
Sent: 09 July 2019 13:29
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sterilize the watermaker

 

In november 2017 I spoke with two Dessalator representatives on the MET's in Amsterdam. I asked them about to sterilize the membranes of my DUO 60. The answer was quite simple: It is not necessary to do that. Just after a long time of not use, turn the system on without pressure for about 40 minutes and the slowly increase pressure during 10 minutes not further than the first quarter of the meter. After that, increase pressure until the system comes to produce. I used this method now for two season starts and it works great. Chemicals in the end will destroy the system and will shorten the lifespan of the membranes, they told me. 

I spoke to:

Vincent Koster, Systems engineer: vincent@... and
Martin de Jong, Director - manager (DENIA, Spain and France): spain@...


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Bow Thruster lip seal

Duane Siegfri
 

Thanks Craig!

Duane

Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Duane Siegfri
 

Many thanks to everyone for their thoughts.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Mastervolt alternator overcharging

Aldo Roldan
 

Yeah! Your batteries have probably suffered. I had to replace mine

On Jul 9, 2019, at 3:17 AM, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

As I said above, that’s exactly the problem I found and fixed:  loose connection in the voltage sensing cable for the alternator.   But the latest is that the alarm came back on last night after 8 hours on shore power with the 60 A  Charger.  So now I’m retesting the batteries (maybe they got damaged since the last test) and looking for a loose connection in the 60A charger circuit.  The fun never stops with these complicated boats .....

Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Oops Sorry my previous should have been addressed to Willem

Danny

On 09 July 2019 at 23:28 Willem Kroes <kavanga@...> wrote:

In november 2017 I spoke with two Dessalator representatives on the MET's in Amsterdam. I asked them about to sterilize the membranes of my DUO 60. The answer was quite simple: It is not necessary to do that. Just after a long time of not use, turn the system on without pressure for about 40 minutes and the slowly increase pressure during 10 minutes not further than the first quarter of the meter. After that, increase pressure until the system comes to produce. I used this method now for two season starts and it works great. Chemicals in the end will destroy the system and will shorten the lifespan of the membranes, they told me. 

I spoke to:

Vincent Koster, Systems engineer: vincent@... and
Martin de Jong, Director - manager (DENIA, Spain and France): spain@...


Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Vincent et al,

I too have not used chemicals in 10 years and get good life from the membranes. Just a back flush with product water from the tank with the presure released after each use. 

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 09 July 2019 at 23:28 Willem Kroes <kavanga@...> wrote:

In november 2017 I spoke with two Dessalator representatives on the MET's in Amsterdam. I asked them about to sterilize the membranes of my DUO 60. The answer was quite simple: It is not necessary to do that. Just after a long time of not use, turn the system on without pressure for about 40 minutes and the slowly increase pressure during 10 minutes not further than the first quarter of the meter. After that, increase pressure until the system comes to produce. I used this method now for two season starts and it works great. Chemicals in the end will destroy the system and will shorten the lifespan of the membranes, they told me. 

I spoke to:

Vincent Koster, Systems engineer: vincent@... and
Martin de Jong, Director - manager (DENIA, Spain and France): spain@...


Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Mark McGovern
 

Just to add to the knowledgebase on a related watermaker topic, when I asked Dessalator's USA rep Mark Fruehauf at Balcen (info@...) about how best to winterize my watermaker I got this reply:

"For winterizing I recommend doing a fresh water flush and then filling the High Pressure pump and membrane pressure vessels with non toxic water system antifreeze.  The easiest way to do this is to use a utility pump to pump the solution into the inlet of the high pressure pump.  It is also very important to make sure to blow out all fresh water from the product water lines and  flow meters"

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Mark McGovern
 

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 02:38 PM, Gary Silver wrote:
continuous salinity measurement system
Gary,

I for one would love to see the schematics and parts list that you used to modify your system!  
 
--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: SM - Aft Deck Cushion

Ian Townsend
 

Yikes! Thx for that. Will remember not to smoke around it :) I'm going to get the free liner they are offering as a fix.

They have a replacement:



Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Jul 9, 2019, at 2:55 AM, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Seems it's not available from Amazon anymore, and this is why :
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2019/cvb-recalls-lucid-folding-mattress-sofas-due-to-violation-of-federal-mattress

Pity, I thought it was a good idea !

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Willem Kroes
 

In november 2017 I spoke with two Dessalator representatives on the MET's in Amsterdam. I asked them about to sterilize the membranes of my DUO 60. The answer was quite simple: It is not necessary to do that. Just after a long time of not use, turn the system on without pressure for about 40 minutes and the slowly increase pressure during 10 minutes not further than the first quarter of the meter. After that, increase pressure until the system comes to produce. I used this method now for two season starts and it works great. Chemicals in the end will destroy the system and will shorten the lifespan of the membranes, they told me. 

I spoke to:

Vincent Koster, Systems engineer: vincent@... and
Martin de Jong, Director - manager (DENIA, Spain and France): spain@...


Re: Mastervolt alternator overcharging

Joerg Esdorn
 

As I said above, that’s exactly the problem I found and fixed:  loose connection in the voltage sensing cable for the alternator.   But the latest is that the alarm came back on last night after 8 hours on shore power with the 60 A  Charger.  So now I’m retesting the batteries (maybe they got damaged since the last test) and looking for a loose connection in the 60A charger circuit.  The fun never stops with these complicated boats .....

Re: SM - Aft Deck Cushion

Alan Leslie
 

Seems it's not available from Amazon anymore, and this is why :
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2019/cvb-recalls-lucid-folding-mattress-sofas-due-to-violation-of-federal-mattress

Pity, I thought it was a good idea !

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Mastervolt alternator overcharging

Aldo Roldan
 

Regarding my previous post. My problem was much like the one described below by Bill. If wire connections are loose, when they flick the Mastercolt restart itself initializing it with a higher initial voltage charge. Hence, the additional charge

On Jul 3, 2019, at 2:13 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Joerg,

That's what I thought when you first started having overheat alarms in your 55 battery area. The Mastervolt alternator is continuing to charge, already charged batteries, causing heat in the battery area. Pochon's suggestion to change the regulator is logical, but I am surprised that they did not check the voltage at the bank and at the regulator to ensure that they were the same.

I am not an electrician: My guess is that either the regulator settings are wrong, the regulator is defective, or there is resistance in the wire and connections between the actual battery bank and the regulator, which is lowering the voltage "seen" by the regulator and "fooling" the regulator to continue charging. 

My non-electrician suggestion: It will be a tedious process checking between both. I believe that you will find the most likely connections near and on the excite relay for the alternator. loosen each connection and use CorrosionX before retightening. Make sure that any crimp connectors are done correctly and have crimped the entire wire, replace any suspects. Check voltage often during the process so that you'll know when you have found and corrected the resistance problem.

As an alternative and temporary patch, maybe you could lower the charged voltage setting at the regulator by 2.5 volts.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970 (If I do not have your number in My Contacts, you will go to VoiceMail. Text me in advance with your number and I'll white list it.)



On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:25 PM Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
On my 55, I have a 110A/24v Mastervolt alternator for the house bank and the alpha pro regulator.  I’ve had the battery temp alarm come on several times now because the regulator does not switch from Bulk to absorption.  On my voltmeter on the panel, voltage is 30-31V and charge rate goes up and down quickly from 10-40A, all with the batteries full after days on shore charger.   I checked out the regulator with the Masteradjust software and the sense and battery voltage was just below the 28.5V for the switch to absorption.   So the regulator is seeing 2-2.5V less than what the batteries have - I checked the voltmeter with my multitester.   At the suggestion of Pochon, I just replaced the regulator but that wasn’t the problem. 
Any idea what could be wrong would be much app!   

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem
just left Barcelona for Valencia

Re: Mastervolt alternator overcharging

Aldo Roldan
 

Had a related problem once. It was blamed on the Mastervolt regulator. Replaced it. Problem continued. It was later determined that wire connections had become loose after 1200 miles passage.

On Jul 3, 2019, at 1:25 PM, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

On my 55, I have a 110A/24v Mastervolt alternator for the house bank and the alpha pro regulator.  I’ve had the battery temp alarm come on several times now because the regulator does not switch from Bulk to absorption.  On my voltmeter on the panel, voltage is 30-31V and charge rate goes up and down quickly from 10-40A, all with the batteries full after days on shore charger.   I checked out the regulator with the Masteradjust software and the sense and battery voltage was just below the 28.5V for the switch to absorption.   So the regulator is seeing 2-2.5V less than what the batteries have - I checked the voltmeter with my multitester.   At the suggestion of Pochon, I just replaced the regulator but that wasn’t the problem. 
Any idea what could be wrong would be much app!   

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem
just left Barcelona for Valencia

SM - Aft Deck Cushion

Ian Townsend
 

For those SM owners interested in an aft deck cushion, we purchased this three years ago. It is left outside all the time and is still in good condition. Lies flat, folds up. It fits almost perfectly. The corners just need to be trimmed. 
image1.JPG




Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Jul 8, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

We also had a Sunbrella cover made, and went one further having a teak frame made to measure as a base to keep it all off the deck hence allowing it to stay dry. This has worked perfectly and we have not had to remove the cushions except when leaving the boat for hurricane season.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io
Sent: 08 July 2019 21:16
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sunbed upholstery for AMEL 54 2009 / cleaning the watertank

 

Stefan. 

We were in the same position about eight months ago – all these beautiful cushions seemed to do was take up space!

However my wife, being the ingenious one, suggested we cover the cushions in a waterproof Sunbrella covering.   We did so in Panama and now keep the cushions on 100% of the time even if we have the dinghy on the deck and now we have a fantastic star viewing platform at all times!

Regardless of weather the cushions stay nice and clean. We often just use the Sunbrella covering itself as the functional covering of the cushions, and now rarely take the cover off as it looks so good and is so easy to clean with a spritz. 

I offer this to you because I was ready to get rid of what I considered a nuisance and now they’ve become one of the things we enjoy most on the boat. 

 

 

Best of luck!

 

Porter. (And Helen, the brains)

 

A54-152 S/V IBIS 

Moorea, FP

 

Excuse the errors.  

Sent from my IPhone 


On Jul 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:

Dear AMEL Group/ Owners,

 

I want to sell my sunbed cushions/ upholstery for the sun deck (above the aft cabin) on my AMEL 54 - seen on the pictures.

They are in a very good condition, like new. 

I guess they were never used.

 

If anyone is interested, please send me an offer or visit us on board.

We are still in La Rochelle for a few days.


No news from cleaning the watertank so far, but Olivier told me, there are 4 (not 3) compartements, means 4 accesses ... :-)
Good to know.

 

Best regards

Stefan

A54 / 119/ LADY CHARLYETTE / La Rochelle

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--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Sunbed upholstery for AMEL 54 2009 / cleaning the watertank

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

We also had a Sunbrella cover made, and went one further having a teak frame made to measure as a base to keep it all off the deck hence allowing it to stay dry. This has worked perfectly and we have not had to remove the cushions except when leaving the boat for hurricane season.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io
Sent: 08 July 2019 21:16
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sunbed upholstery for AMEL 54 2009 / cleaning the watertank

 

Stefan. 

We were in the same position about eight months ago – all these beautiful cushions seemed to do was take up space!

However my wife, being the ingenious one, suggested we cover the cushions in a waterproof Sunbrella covering.   We did so in Panama and now keep the cushions on 100% of the time even if we have the dinghy on the deck and now we have a fantastic star viewing platform at all times!

Regardless of weather the cushions stay nice and clean. We often just use the Sunbrella covering itself as the functional covering of the cushions, and now rarely take the cover off as it looks so good and is so easy to clean with a spritz. 

I offer this to you because I was ready to get rid of what I considered a nuisance and now they’ve become one of the things we enjoy most on the boat. 

 

 

Best of luck!

 

Porter. (And Helen, the brains)

 

A54-152 S/V IBIS 

Moorea, FP

 

Excuse the errors.  

Sent from my IPhone 


On Jul 7, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:

Dear AMEL Group/ Owners,

 

I want to sell my sunbed cushions/ upholstery for the sun deck (above the aft cabin) on my AMEL 54 - seen on the pictures.

They are in a very good condition, like new. 

I guess they were never used.

 

If anyone is interested, please send me an offer or visit us on board.

We are still in La Rochelle for a few days.


No news from cleaning the watertank so far, but Olivier told me, there are 4 (not 3) compartements, means 4 accesses ... :-)
Good to know.

 

Best regards

Stefan

A54 / 119/ LADY CHARLYETTE / La Rochelle

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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98