Re: 1986 Amel Maramu 46 Mainsail Furling Motors
"... if they would just give us the spec of the motor - or an equivalent..." They don't do things that way, and Martinique is the wrong place to ask because they order all of the parts they sell from La Rochelle. If you follow the instructions I gave you, you will get an answer, but since it will require them ordering a part for a 33 year old Amel, your request probably will not get the priority that another will get ordering a motor for a 15 year old Amel and that part is still stocked by Amel. Note, that one part of the instructions I say, "In an emergency you can phone SAV at +33 (0) 546 55 00 75." Call them. French or English. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:21 PM Samantha Jane Bartlett <bartlettsam@...> wrote: Thanks Bill,
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Re: 1986 Amel Maramu 46 Mainsail Furling Motors
Bill Fletcher
Hi I own a 85 Maramu and have had to have these motors repaired. They may be rusty but a good DC motor rebuilder can usually get them working again. They are just a old 12Volt dc starter motor. The problem sounds like a stuck or warn out brush. I don’t know where you are but there is usually a rebuilder that can help you out. Good luck. Fair winds Bill Fletcher Tahitian Dream Maramu 179
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:21 AM Samantha Jane Bartlett <bartlettsam@...> wrote: Thanks Bill,
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Re: 1986 Amel Maramu 46 Mainsail Furling Motors
Samantha Jane Bartlett
Thanks Bill,
We have asked for a quote from both Amel in Martinique and SAV in France - my husband has spoken with them in French (he's French) and we are still getting no joy. I understand it's a 33 year old boat but if they would just give us the spec of the motor - or an equivalent, we can work with it! He's going to try and call again tomorrow to France... but this has been going on a long time now and we're no further forward. Our old motors are just too rusty to get any info from!
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Re: Auto pilot for a Santorin 46
smiles bernard
Hi there
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Just some thoughts related to reliance on the autopilot. We bought our Maramu to sail short handed, long distance with young kids onboard and this led me to consider our reliance on a single autopilot. The electric autopilot has been excellent but I did want a reliable plan B. I looked into replicating the very nice SM dual autopilot system with the addition of a linear drive unit on the steering quadrant. In the end, for true resilience (ACU, control head, rudder sensor, drive unit) the costs and instal complexity led me to a wind vane instead. I’ve used various wind vanes before on long trips - both servo pendulum and independent rudder systems. In each case the vanes quickly became one of the most essential things on the boat. Almost zero maintenance, very robust and zero electronics and battery draw and they work better as the wind blows harder. In the end for our Maramu I chose a Hydrovane as it operates independently of the boats steering system and works well with a center cockpit arrangement. It’s has been steering our boat faultlessly since we installed it. In fact I’ve hardly used the Raymarine autopilot since we added the Hydrovane. I believe the windpilot Pacific 2 is similar in nature in that it steers the boat whilst the main rudder is locked off but Ive not had the pleasure of trying one out yet. . I wonder if the SM is getting a little too big for a wind vane. Anyone tried a wind vane on the SM? All the best Miles Maramu 162
On 21 Jul 2019, at 09:19, JOHN HAYES <johnhayes862@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Water maker Questions
Tom,
250 ppm is what you are looking for as far as TDS goes. The EPA’s recommended maximum level of TDS in water is 500 ppm. Note, it's not a limit, just a recommendation. The 500 number you saw may have been for Conductivity (proxy for Salinity) which is measure in microSiemens/cm (µS/cm). You want that between 200 and 800 and I think Dessalator claims 250 TDS and 550 Conductivity in their marketing material. I picked up this kit from Amazon to test it: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077SQTKH4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I have no idea how accurate it is, but it gives me reasonable results for tap water, distilled water, Chesapeake Bay water and watermaker water so it appears to be accurate enough. -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: 1986 Amel Maramu 46 Mainsail Furling Motors
Bill and Sam
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I am sorry but i dont read it is a Maramu Thenk you Bill to clear it Best Elja
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Re: Water maker Questions
Might "not taste anything," but most people cannot tolerate their drinking water with anything over 500ppm. Most people will retain water at 500ppm. Before you start abusing your body to save a few euros on membrane costs, you might want to ask your doctor. Tom, I can't answer your question about "acceptable" in your situation because I don't believe you gave specifics in ocean water. Watermaker output depends on many things, including pressure, membranes, pressure maintained, salt content of the water, and even temperature. Your D60 new membranes should produce 1 liter a minute +/-10% when making freshwater from ocean water and a pressure of 50 BAR on the outside of the membranes. If your membranes are 2 years old, the TDS should be around 250 after about 5 minutes of production. In 1 hour the TDS may improve slightly. It is true that Dessalator has waffled on what is good quality in terms of TDS. The WHO states 500ppm or less. Spectra Watermakers say 1000ppm, or less (a laugh everytime I hear this). Judy and I changed membranes about every 4 years because we could definitely tell when the TDS moved above 325-350. I hope this helps. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 2:01 PM Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Dessslator HP hoses
Alan, FYI, I bought 2 high pressure hydraulic hoses 6' long with stainless steel 3/8" JIC Flare end fittings crimped on both ends of the hoses for about $200. Don't forget about your Yacht School Discount at Dessalator. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 1:58 PM Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:
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Re: Spinnaker Pole Strut Support
The issue is light rain or humid mornings will cause the salt to run down the shroud. Heavy rain will rinse everything very good. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 1:30 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
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Re: 1986 Amel Maramu 46 Mainsail Furling Motors
BE CAREFUL. A Maramu is a 12 volt boat and a Super Maramu is 24 volt. The motors are different: Apples:Oranges. Samantha, it may not be possible to replace with OEM devices on a 30 year old boat, but if anyone can do it, it is Amel. You should follow the instructions on the attached to order a part. If you are asking Amel where you can buy the motor or how to contact Leroy Somers, you are absolutely asking the wrong question. You should be requesting a quote and you should include all of the steps outlined in the attached. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 10:42 AM Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:
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Re: Water maker Questions
You won’t taste anything in your water below 1000 ppm tds.
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~~~⛵️~~~Matt
On Jul 23, 2019, at 2:51 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
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Re: Dessslator HP hoses
Germain Jean-Pierre
Hello Alan,
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You can get great quality hoses from an hydraulic shop which services the dairy industry with food grade components. I went that route and never had a problem with My Dessalator. GL Jean-Pierre Germain Eleuthera, SM 007, Fiji
On 24 Jul 2019, at 03:46, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:
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Re: Water maker Questions
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Tom,
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500 ppm is considered the upper limit, anything below that is acceptable for drinking water. However once the membranes get to the point of delivering either 500ppm of close to it they are arriving at replacement time. 280 is acceptable and of course at start up you will see higher levels. My duo 60 has manual controls and I run product water to waste for a couple of minutes after start up. So long as the tds goes down to an acceptable quite quickly dilution would deal with it. 0.75l/m is not far off 60 l/h the and if you give the watermaker some long use you may find you get it up there. So in summary. 500ppm is the upper limit but you wont die if it is a little higher. Anything in the mid 300 and below is quite acceptable. Once my tds gets over 400ppm on a regular basis I start planning for replacement. Like anything, the best treatment is regular use. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 24 July 2019 at 05:05 Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Spinnaker Pole Strut Support
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Bill, I have never done that freshwater rinse and have not had the problem, I wondered why and then realised rain does quite a good job. Perhaps where I am and have been has more regular rainfall. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 24 July 2019 at 02:35 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: Water maker Questions
Sodium metabisulphite is a pickling solution. It’s only meant to keep organisms from fouling your membranes while the boat is stored, and watermaker isn’t being used.
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There are two cleaning chemicals: Sodium Hydroxide, for organic. Citric Acid, for mineral deposits. Doing a search inline will reveal sources (ebay is one) and concentrations. Good luck. ~~~⛵️~~~Matt
On Jul 23, 2019, at 1:05 PM, Thomas Peacock <peacock8491@...> wrote:
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Water maker Questions
Thomas Peacock
I’m hoping to get a few tips on our water maker. We have a LaRochelle installed Dessalator, I believe a D60, SM 240, 24 volts only. We have used it only sporadically.
I put new membranes in 2 years ago. I am trying to be sure it works properly, we are in the Chesapeake Bay, which is only brackish water so we don’t use it there. Going to Martinique this fall. The Dessalator manual at one point says we should have 250 TDS, at another it says 500, which certainly tastes brackish. At 40 bar we get 270, at 60 bar about 330, which then goes down to 280 after about 5 minutes. We get 0.75 liters/minute. Is this acceptable performance? I am more concerned about the TDS than the rate. I would like to clean the membranes as suggested by Dessalator, all they say is “cleaning solution”. Is this the same as the pickling compound, sodium metabisulfite? Thanks as always for everyone’s insights. Tom Peacock SM 240 Aletes Chesapeake Bay
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Dessslator HP hoses
Alan Grayson
Hi All, im about to order new HP hoses from the dessalator rep in the US. The end fittings are reusable and so you only need to buy the hose unless like me one of your ends are damaged.
There are 2 options for this. 1: buy the hose from France and any ends that you need. Hose $40 fittings $93.00 each, shipping $70 2: buy new hose and ends from the US. the hose is different and the fittings are slightly different with the same threaded ends. They are not interchangeable. Cost of 2 new hoses $472.00 I'm buying the hose and 1 end fitting from France. If anyone else wants to buy either hoses or fittings from France and add to my order please let me know by Thurs 25th by noon eastern time. The order will be shipping to me in Annapolis and i'll forward from here if you pay shipping to your destination. Regards Alan Grayson SV Ora Pai Annapolis, MD
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Re: Autoprop H6 Tools
Paul Stascavage
No problem Duane. I hope not to need them for a while. The tools are going out USPS today.
All the best Paul
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Re: 1986 Amel Maramu 46 Mainsail Furling Motors
I ordert one by Amel 4 weeks ago
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For SM 222 I think the will have in Stok It is not possibel to order by Leroy somer ore other way only by Amel Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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1986 Amel Maramu 46 Mainsail Furling Motors
Samantha Jane Bartlett
Hi,
I've been through all the info in the messages here and we've been trying to get an answer from Amel for weeks with no success - Our mainsail furling and outhaul motors are completely rusted up (inherited problem) and we need to replace them. They are 3 pole motors but I can't get any info on the specs - closest I've found on here is a Leroy Somer MBT82-M?? 3,100 revs and 450W... I've trawled the Leroy Somer website and googled for a supplier but I'm still struggling - can anyone confirm the specs and a supplier? We've installed a work-around with a Quick windlass motor but I'm pretty sure we've overpowered it... it would be great to have some specs so that we can replace them with the right ones! Thank you! Sam
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