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Re: This should interest all members, especially Amel yacht owners

Porter McRoberts
 

My Amel just took us here, right now!  What an amazing adventure machine! And I just raced my buddy from Raiatea in his new Leopard 48. It blows his mind that a monohull is faster than his cat!  

Bora Bora right now:
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Thanks Amel!!



Porter
S/V IBIS A54-152. 




Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Aug 1, 2019, at 12:10 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

All owners and all non-owners interested in the Amel Brand:

In the month of July, we added 31 new members to the Amel Yacht Owners Group. 
There were 20 new members who were "Interested in buying an Amel."
There were 11 Amel owners, including several Amel 50 owners and one Amel 60 owner (he has not received his 60 yet)

Also we currently have over 1,000 members who receive each of our postings.

It must be daunting to those "Interested in Amel" to see all of the postings regarding maintenance issues. I hope they understand that when a group has this many members, there will be a substantial number of maintenance issues that we want to share. That said, I am sure that 99% of the owners consider their Amel the best and safest ocean sailing yacht available.

Please consider the fact that someone asking you a question may not own an Amel.....YET!

Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: This should interest all members, especially Amel yacht owners

Matt Salatino
 

We’re all aware of the definition of “Cruising”. It applies to Amels and ALL boats!

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 1, 2019, at 6:10 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

All owners and all non-owners interested in the Amel Brand:

In the month of July, we added 31 new members to the Amel Yacht Owners Group. 
There were 20 new members who were "Interested in buying an Amel."
There were 11 Amel owners, including several Amel 50 owners and one Amel 60 owner (he has not received his 60 yet)

Also we currently have over 1,000 members who receive each of our postings.

It must be daunting to those "Interested in Amel" to see all of the postings regarding maintenance issues. I hope they understand that when a group has this many members, there will be a substantial number of maintenance issues that we want to share. That said, I am sure that 99% of the owners consider their Amel the best and safest ocean sailing yacht available.

Please consider the fact that someone asking you a question may not own an Amel.....YET!

Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: VP MD22L

Patrick McAneny
 

Bernard , On my Volvo TMD22a the heat exchanger has a rubber cap on each end, the caps seal around the heat exchanger tube and also seals around the heat exchanger vessel or housing that contains the antifreeze. So the caps serve a dual purpose and the cap is tightened around the exchanger (tube) and the vessl with s.s. clamps. If that clamp is not tight or the cap is in poor condition then salt water can get into the coolant. Its not a great design and I have always worried about a failure resulting in what you have. I just replaced the caps because they were old ,dried out and lost their flexibility ,thus their ability to seal . I might add that I had an overheating issue for years and finally discovered that there was a rubber o ring seal that slide over the tube that had gotten old and broke apart. That o ring insures that all the coolant flows thru the heat exchanger. If you should buy new caps don't buy them for a Volvo ,but for a Perkins , assuming your engine is a Perkins as mine is ,same caps are $340 from Volvo ,$35 from Perkins. Hope this helps,have any questions...
Pat
SM Shenanigans
Sassafras River , Md.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bernd Spanner <bernd.spanner@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 3:52 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] VP MD22L

Hi everyone!
Following problem on a SN (119 From 1995)
Engine VP MD22 L
I have the following problem...
After a few hours engine ops the sweat water (coolant circuit) becomes saltwater. I suspected the leak in the bundle (the tube with the many small holes, about 40 cm long in the heat exchanger). I did a pressure check on this part with a compressor today and there seems to be NO leak. I slowly come to the end of my ideas... ? The engine is still good for it’s age, but running on saltwater will kill it sooner or later 😢 Anyone with some hints n ideas for me?!
Greets
--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal


Re: This should interest all members, especially Amel yacht owners

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Bill , 
Great to read . The Amel yachts and the Amel understanding of cruising at sea add up to something extraordinary which enriches the lives of everyone who owns or aspires to own an Amel. We do not consider it a hyperbole to acknowledge that owning 3 Amels for the past 30 years has been a central part of the enjoyment of living those 30 years - with many more to come . 
A significant part of that enjoyment has been the camaraderie of others owners , not least yourself , through this website . 
Long may that be so 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302 Greece


On 1 Aug 2019, at 23:11, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

All owners and all non-owners interested in the Amel Brand:

In the month of July, we added 31 new members to the Amel Yacht Owners Group. 
There were 20 new members who were "Interested in buying an Amel."
There were 11 Amel owners, including several Amel 50 owners and one Amel 60 owner (he has not received his 60 yet)

Also we currently have over 1,000 members who receive each of our postings.

It must be daunting to those "Interested in Amel" to see all of the postings regarding maintenance issues. I hope they understand that when a group has this many members, there will be a substantial number of maintenance issues that we want to share. That said, I am sure that 99% of the owners consider their Amel the best and safest ocean sailing yacht available.

Please consider the fact that someone asking you a question may not own an Amel.....YET!

Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


This should interest all members, especially Amel yacht owners

 

All owners and all non-owners interested in the Amel Brand:

In the month of July, we added 31 new members to the Amel Yacht Owners Group. 
There were 20 new members who were "Interested in buying an Amel."
There were 11 Amel owners, including several Amel 50 owners and one Amel 60 owner (he has not received his 60 yet)

Also we currently have over 1,000 members who receive each of our postings.

It must be daunting to those "Interested in Amel" to see all of the postings regarding maintenance issues. I hope they understand that when a group has this many members, there will be a substantial number of maintenance issues that we want to share. That said, I am sure that 99% of the owners consider their Amel the best and safest ocean sailing yacht available.

Please consider the fact that someone asking you a question may not own an Amel.....YET!

Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: VP MD22L

Mark Erdos
 

Bernd,

 

So sorry, I read your problem too quickly and thought you were losing coolant. I just re-read and see it is becoming contaminated with saltwater. You are in the right area. Keep hunting about the heat exchanger! You will have a eureka moment. Hopefully sooner, rather than later.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bernd Spanner
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 5:35 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] VP MD22L

 

2 answers at once.

1st pressure check done with a compressor. Meaning compressor to one side of the pipes and sealed on the other side.

2nd Will reinstall tomorrow. Seals seem to be good, will check to have them tight enough.
crack in the engine block. Can not imagine how saltwater would enter the sweat water circuit if the engineblock would have a crack. Exhaust fumes are clean.
Please keep fingers crossed. Don’t want to buy a new engine... But at some point.... how much do you really want to invest in a 25 yo engine...
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal


Re: VP MD22L

Bernd Spanner
 

2 answers at once.

1st pressure check done with a compressor. Meaning compressor to one side of the pipes and sealed on the other side.

2nd Will reinstall tomorrow. Seals seem to be good, will check to have them tight enough.
crack in the engine block. Can not imagine how saltwater would enter the sweat water circuit if the engineblock would have a crack. Exhaust fumes are clean.
Please keep fingers crossed. Don’t want to buy a new engine... But at some point.... how much do you really want to invest in a 25 yo engine...
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal


Re: Bimini detail

Mark Erdos
 

Did you install a hardtop?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 2:07 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bimini detail

 

Here is the solution on Lady Annila


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Hälsningar/Regards

 

Ann-Sofie

S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998

 

 

Skickat från min iPhone


1 aug. 2019 kl. 04:35 skrev James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...>:

Kent - yes!  Please post photos.  I am also seeking a new design for replacing our bimini. 

 

Best,

James

 

On Jul 31, 2019 23:26, "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:

Mike,
After considering a plan similar to yours, we just replaced the old cockpit enclosure with a semi-permanent fabric Bimini-like top raised a few inches above the dodger.  It’s attached to the dodger and to the forward mizzen shrouds.  It has two large windows to see sail trim, houses two large flexible solar panels, and is high enough that I can see all the way around standing up straight.  The side and aft panels make a very dry and warm cockpit. We spent two days hove-to in 35kts with gusts to 45 and the new enclosure held up great and kept us nice and dry.

It’s been a total game-changer for me, being able to stand up and see all around...even when it’s raining cats and dogs.

Craig and Katherine on Sangaris (SN) did something similar, but theirs stops a bit farther aft and allows them to step into the cockpit without bending over.

I’d be happy to send you some pics of mine (or post them) if you’d like.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
karkauai@...
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Jul 31, 2019, at 10:41 PM, Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...> wrote:

We are about to have a new Bimini made and would like to incorporate into it a zip open panel above the Helmsman’s seat so he can stand and poke his head above the Bimini for better visibility during close in maneuvering. Has anyone tried this and found a successful detail to maintain waterproofness at the zipper?
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM 240






 


Re: VP MD22L

Mark Erdos
 

Brend,

 

As others have already suggested, the heat exchanger is the most likely culprit. You have a hole somewhere. Either in a seal or a failure in the exchanger itself. This would be your best case scenario. Else, you might have a cracked engine block.  This is unlikely but possible.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bernd Spanner
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 3:52 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] VP MD22L

 

Hi everyone!
Following problem on a SN (119 From 1995)
Engine VP MD22 L
I have the following problem...
After a few hours engine ops the sweat water (coolant circuit) becomes saltwater. I suspected the leak in the bundle (the tube with the many small holes, about 40 cm long in the heat exchanger). I did a pressure check on this part with a compressor today and there seems to be NO leak. I slowly come to the end of my ideas... ? The engine is still good for it’s age, but running on saltwater will kill it sooner or later 😢 Anyone with some hints n ideas for me?!
Greets
--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal


Re: VP MD22L

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Bernd,

It will be a seal that separates the two water streams. The TMD 22 volvos and different heat exchangers on different engines so cant be definitive but investigate all the seals

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl

On 02 August 2019 at 08:38 Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:

Bernd,

Seawater should only come in close proximity to coolant (sweat water) inside the heat exchanger.  There has to be a leak in there somewhere. How did you conduct the pressure test?

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: VP MD22L

Mark McGovern
 

Bernd,

Seawater should only come in close proximity to coolant (sweat water) inside the heat exchanger.  There has to be a leak in there somewhere. How did you conduct the pressure test?

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: washing machine and dryer for Amel 54

Martin Bevan
 

We replaced the original Bosch machine in 2017 when it started to trip the power out. The replacement was as in the previous post, a Beko. There are very few half depth machines available and Bosch no longer make one. Our original machine was held in place by two bolts attached through the back of the machine which go through a panel at the back of the machine space and are secured by two Amel style wheel nuts. These are accessed via a panel in the port side double cabin. We fitted these bolts to the new machine. 

The old and new machines just fit through the companionway doors. 

On the the subject of tumble dryers, ours got a large amount of use, especially for drying towels when at sea. The main issue that we had was with the grill at the end of the exhaust pipe blocking, solved by removing the internal grill. 

Martin Bevan
Previous owner of Caduceus A54#56


VP MD22L

Bernd Spanner
 

Hi everyone!
Following problem on a SN (119 From 1995)
Engine VP MD22 L
I have the following problem...
After a few hours engine ops the sweat water (coolant circuit) becomes saltwater. I suspected the leak in the bundle (the tube with the many small holes, about 40 cm long in the heat exchanger). I did a pressure check on this part with a compressor today and there seems to be NO leak. I slowly come to the end of my ideas... ? The engine is still good for it’s age, but running on saltwater will kill it sooner or later 😢 Anyone with some hints n ideas for me?!
Greets
--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal


Re: Eeplacement ST 60 Tridata or I50 Tridata needed

Matt Salatino
 

Check eBay also

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 1, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

Hello all, my ST 60 Tridata Raymarine instrument finally stopped working on the SeaTalk bus. Worked with Raymarine and did the troubleshooting and they said the unit was bad. So I can replace with another used ST 60 Tridata or and I50 Tridata instrument and get it back on the seatalk network. So I am looking to see if anyone has an old ST 60 Tridata or I50 Tridata that is fully functional they no longer need. (Maybe someone that upgraded their entire system). Prices online are high for the i50 and not sure if the ST 60's online are fully functional. Thought I would ask my fellow Amel family first.  


Re: washing machine and dryer for Amel 54

 

This is the model of the 54 OEM clothes washer: 
BOSCH WLX24460FF
Height:85.6cm / Width:59.5cm / Depth:44.1cm

This is the model of the Beko possible replacement clothes washer: 
BEKO WMS6100
Height: 84.0cm / Width: 60cm / Depth: 45cm
This washing machine can wash a full 6kg load in just 28 minutes
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 11:54 AM Scott SV Tengah <sv.tengah@...> wrote:
I replaced my washing machine with a Beko 6kg 1000rpm one that I found in Spain.

It barely fits, but the nice thing is that it's 50% more capacity than the original Bosch. Securing it was a pain but possible through the "shipping plugs" in the back of the machine. 

I'm not aboard now but will return to the boat around the 12th, so if you want the model number, I can post it then. And if you go for this machine, I can walk you through how I secured it. The boatyard tried to secure it and well, their solution resulted in the machine falling out at an inconvenient time. :)
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
www.svtengah.com


Re: Eeplacement ST 60 Tridata or I50 Tridata needed

Paul Brown
 

I have purchased an ST60 online through eBay last year at a low cost as works fine, good luck 


On 1 Aug 2019, at 5:50 pm, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

Hello all, my ST 60 Tridata Raymarine instrument finally stopped working on the SeaTalk bus. Worked with Raymarine and did the troubleshooting and they said the unit was bad. So I can replace with another used ST 60 Tridata or and I50 Tridata instrument and get it back on the seatalk network. So I am looking to see if anyone has an old ST 60 Tridata or I50 Tridata that is fully functional they no longer need. (Maybe someone that upgraded their entire system). Prices online are high for the i50 and not sure if the ST 60's online are fully functional. Thought I would ask my fellow Amel family first.  


Re: washing machine and dryer for Amel 54

Scott SV Tengah
 

I replaced my washing machine with a Beko 6kg 1000rpm one that I found in Spain.

It barely fits, but the nice thing is that it's 50% more capacity than the original Bosch. Securing it was a pain but possible through the "shipping plugs" in the back of the machine. 

I'm not aboard now but will return to the boat around the 12th, so if you want the model number, I can post it then. And if you go for this machine, I can walk you through how I secured it. The boatyard tried to secure it and well, their solution resulted in the machine falling out at an inconvenient time. :)
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
www.svtengah.com


Re: Eeplacement ST 60 Tridata or I50 Tridata needed

Arlo
 

Just to clarify the tridata instrument works when powered up, its just causing problems with the seatalk bus. Also I am not asking for a freebee, just would rather purchase one from this family than a complete stranger...


Eeplacement ST 60 Tridata or I50 Tridata needed

Arlo
 

Hello all, my ST 60 Tridata Raymarine instrument finally stopped working on the SeaTalk bus. Worked with Raymarine and did the troubleshooting and they said the unit was bad. So I can replace with another used ST 60 Tridata or and I50 Tridata instrument and get it back on the seatalk network. So I am looking to see if anyone has an old ST 60 Tridata or I50 Tridata that is fully functional they no longer need. (Maybe someone that upgraded their entire system). Prices online are high for the i50 and not sure if the ST 60's online are fully functional. Thought I would ask my fellow Amel family first.  


Re: Bimini detail

Paul Osterberg
 

Mike
we have donned  that search Kerpa in the photo section, we have had it for three years now and still very happy with it. It was a great improvement towards the original.
Paul SY Kerpa SM 259