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Re: Amel is going lithium

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Scott,

Yes, I would be interested as well. I noticed in the very extensive description of the A60 that the now incorporate a fan inside the battery compartment. I wonder what led to this.
I’m considering to build my own bank using the Chinese Wilson cells. Fun fact; the (very expensive) Mastervolt Lithium batteries also use these cells but hide them in a Mastervolt box.

My biggest issue with the whole Lithium story is that Lithium batteries should ideally be disconnected from the charger once they are full. The concept of “float” does not apply to Lithium batteries. Now this becomes an issue if you are long term on shore power. I know not all Amels do this but for us this is reality. The way to solve this is to toggle the charger (using a breaker relay) and keep the loads on the battery side or disconnect the batteries and keep the loads on the charger side.
Both have drawbacks.
The first adds lots of small cycles to the batteries. Also you need to decide when to resume recharging (by programming the BMS, the Battery Management System)
The second assumes your charger can handle all the 24 volt power needs when connected to shore-power. Also you need to reconnect the batteries very fast if shore-power is interrupted (planned or unplanned) to prevent several of the 24 volt systems to suffer from power interruption (fridges don’t like that for example).
Most “drop in replacement” solutions are designed without a clear explanation how they handle this problem. When building your own battery pack you can buy many different BMS systems. Most of them are designed of off-grid living (on land) and do not address this issue as it not relevant for them.

So I’m curious what you all did to be “Living on Lithium”.

Regards,

Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

rossny@mail.com
 

Alex, Just row your boat, leave the motor on the mothership and use your oars. They can give you a ticket with the motor but you probably will never see them patrolling again even if you stay awhile. If you're not staying long just take the ticket and save it as a souvenir from N.Y., they will not go after you in Switzerland. Where in NY are you?
If I can help with local knowledge, I live in the Hudson valley near NYC so call me.
You can call me a sailor but even if l still owned an Amel I wouldn't want to be called a Amelian, Ha...who the hall started that???
Best Regards,
Ross in NY
Cell = 845.8two5,7six57  




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Re: Spinnaker or parasailor

ste.dente
 

Hallo Joerg and all Amelians,
I have read with much interest your description of your way of using the parasailor on your 55. I have a Santorini with my man Dietmar; we are thinking about buying a parasailor since 2 years, but it seems there are some problems using it on a Santorin.
The first problem seems to be the 2 “horns” at the top of the Genoa furler: do you have it on the 55? and did you have to remove it using the parasailor?
The second problem are the winches: the Santorini just has 2 winches: are they enough or we have to mount some others winches or “blocks”?
Third and last doubt is: is the parasailor really manageable by just two 60andmoreyears old people?
Sorry for my bad English! I hope you can understand my questions.
Thanks a lot for your time.
Fair wind

Stefania and Dietmar
SY Euploia SN #93
Actually in Skinousa ( Cyclades, Greece)


Re: Amel is going lithium

Porter McRoberts
 

Really considering this Scott, I’d love to see a write up. Do you have the duo or the 230/50hz only dessalator?  Very tempting I must say. This and a little wind generator and I think with our 3 panels we might truly be off the grid. 
Thank you 

Porter

A54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Aug 4, 2019, at 4:32 PM, Scott SV Tengah <sv.tengah@...> wrote:

It appears the new Amel 60 is going with 720ah of lithium batteries and as a result getting an electric oven and induction cooking.

https://www.wilkinsonmarine.com/store/p115/AMEL_60.html

Thoughts?

As someone who has had 450ah of lithium for about a year now, I can say it has been transformative and I'm glad Amel finally moved in that direction. The ability to run all the 220v appliances (via our 5kw inverter) on battery has been life changing, to quote the admiral. We try not to use the Eno stove now and prefer to cook electrically.

It was not an easy process and I had to "guide" the marine electricians quite a bit as they are used to lead acid/agm thinking, which in many ways, doesn't apply to lithium. 

Some advantages we've noticed:

- 20% increase in solar panel / 220v charger efficiency. There's only about 3% loss charging lithium vs. 20%+ for lead acid/agm/gel
- we can run the aft cabin AC all night on battery
- we can run the windlass and bow thruster with the engine off
- with 200amps of 220v chargers, we run the Onan for maybe 30 minutes every few days
- we can make 900 liters of water (say overnight) on battery

If anyone is contemplating it, I can try to do a writeup on our setup (we changed 220v chargers, alternator charge controller, wiring) and what worked and what isn't perfect. 

Very glad to see Amel has incorporated it in their 60 and hopefully other boats going forward. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
www.svtengah.com


Re: Genoa car springs

Alan Leslie
 

No doubt it is... The usual stainless vs aluminium. 
The issue is that the rod is dead ended so it can't be knocked out....there's nothing to get a grip on to pull it either.
Alan
Elyse SM 437


Re: Rudder Post Conjecture

eric freedman
 

Hi Kent,

It is worth it to get it from Amel, It is precut and fits perfectly.

Order 2 sets and a spare packing nut.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2019 3:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rudder Post Conjecture

 

Hi again,
im ready to order packing material for the first Tim and see that it comes in several sizes, from 1/8”-5/8” in 1/16” increments.  Which is appropriate for a SM rudder post?
Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Did you catch 4 errors on the Delos series 205?

eric freedman
 

Hi,
I believe I counted 4 errors on Delos series 205.
How many did you get??
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Heinz Stutenbaeumer
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2019 7:35 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

Hallo
In the episodes 204 and 205 of the series Sv Delos on YouTube they show how they restored the hull of the Delos.
In episode 205 after about 50 % you can see how the seal in the rudder is renewed.

Fare Winds
Heinz, SY Quetzal, Super Maramu 200, 292

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Im Auftrag von karkauai via Groups.Io
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. August 2019 05:05
An: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

Thanks Eric, any idea how long the packing material might last if kept in a vacuum sealed bag?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:17 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi ,
Here is a photo of a wrench that I made to tighten the nut. It is made from a piece of 6 mm aluminum stock and cut out with a band saw.

You can also make a long "L" shaped piece of stainless steel the vertical part of the L will hold the nut in place and the horizontal section is drilled for screws and this screws into the base below the nut.

I expanded the stuffing box and now have 5 pieces of packing in the stuffing box. I have kept the packing in a plastic zip lock bag taped with duct tape near the rudder stock along with a packing nut.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376



-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arno Luijten
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 9:54 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

As it happens I’ve just ordered a new nut together with the packing material for our boat.
Regrettably the nut is not on stock at Amel, they just ordered new ones themselves but it will be September before they are back on stock.
Looking at your picture you seem to have enough room to tighten the nut 1/6 or 1/3 turn.
Be careful as the nut is made of nylon. A rudder gland should not leak at all. The packing material is grease saturated and should keep the water out.
Use a good fitting wrench to tighten the nut and turn it slowly. Do 1/6th of a turn and first assess the result before turning it any more. If movement is extremely hard, the packing material needs to be replaced first.

Regards,
Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121




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Re: Genoa car springs

Matt Salatino
 

Is it corroded? Stainless Steel in Aluminum?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 4, 2019, at 8:40 PM, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

I need to replace the springs in one of my Antal genoa cars.
The springs and block are attached to the car by a stainless rod that runs from fwd to aft and is dead ended at the aft end.
There is a split pin through a hole in the rod to prevent the rod from coming out.
I can't turn the rod to get the split pin out...and even if I could I doubt that I could get the rod out.
Has anyone done this before?
Any advice on how to remove that rod ?
Thanks
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Amel is going lithium

Scott SV Tengah
 

It appears the new Amel 60 is going with 720ah of lithium batteries and as a result getting an electric oven and induction cooking.

https://www.wilkinsonmarine.com/store/p115/AMEL_60.html

Thoughts?

As someone who has had 450ah of lithium for about a year now, I can say it has been transformative and I'm glad Amel finally moved in that direction. The ability to run all the 220v appliances (via our 5kw inverter) on battery has been life changing, to quote the admiral. We try not to use the Eno stove now and prefer to cook electrically.

It was not an easy process and I had to "guide" the marine electricians quite a bit as they are used to lead acid/agm thinking, which in many ways, doesn't apply to lithium. 

Some advantages we've noticed:

- 20% increase in solar panel / 220v charger efficiency. There's only about 3% loss charging lithium vs. 20%+ for lead acid/agm/gel
- we can run the aft cabin AC all night on battery
- we can run the windlass and bow thruster with the engine off
- with 200amps of 220v chargers, we run the Onan for maybe 30 minutes every few days
- we can make 900 liters of water (say overnight) on battery

If anyone is contemplating it, I can try to do a writeup on our setup (we changed 220v chargers, alternator charge controller, wiring) and what worked and what isn't perfect. 

Very glad to see Amel has incorporated it in their 60 and hopefully other boats going forward. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
www.svtengah.com


Re: New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

Mark Erdos
 

I think that if a thief ashore were to see a dinghy with T/T Vessel Name on it and took off to rob a boat (that they have no idea of the anchor location but planned to blindly hunt for it) would probably rob the first boat they come to without a dinghy attached to it. Just my 2¢

 

And, besides in Alex’s case, I gave him two options.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of seagasm
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 7:41 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

 

Personally, I would never put my boat name on my tender, only the registration number eg. T/T Reg 9999. By doing this you avoid the possibility of someone ashore immediately identifying that boat by name has no-one on board. A security measure everyone should consider.

Kind Regards
Barry Ferguson
Tradewinds III SM #171

On 05/08/19 08:42, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg wrote:

Write ”T/T” followed by your boats name on it.  

T/T = Tender To

 

Hälsningar/regards/cumprimentos

Ann-Sofie Svanberg

 

 

Skickat från min iPhone


4 aug. 2019 kl. 22:39 skrev Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>:

Alex,

 

In the USA, your USA cruising permit does not include the dinghy. You are required to have a state registration. The guy did you a favor by not writing you a ticket. It doesn’t really matter which state you register in so long as you have some sort of registration. Rule of thumb, if it has a motor, it must be registered.

 

The difficult part is explaining to the local tax agency that you are required to register the dinghy (per the authorities) but you do not reside there or have a mailing address in the state to where they can mail you the permit. It is really screwed up. If you are in a marina, that’ll be easier as you can use their address.

 

Or

 

You can mark the dinghy “T/T No Stress” and show them the federal rules that allow you to use the tender to transit ONLY to and from the mothership (no joy riding). Most law enforcement officers are unaware of this. You will need to carry it with you. I do not know where to point you to online for the rules. Perhaps someone else can help.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alex Ramseyer
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

 

Dear Amelians, I just head a local constable visiting me, asking for my dinghy registration.  He sais any motorized boat has to be registered in the State of N.Y. My AMEL is Swiss registered and logically if that was true, I would also need to register my AMEL in N.Y. However, this guy wants to give me a ticket if he sees me again motoring in the Dinghy. Any locals reading this, please advise what I should say to his guy next time...
Alex
"NO STRESS ".....!!!!!!!

 


Re: Goiot parts and seals -Rubber Buttons

karkauai
 

AnnSofie, we would like 6 of them.  Please ship to
Kent Robertson
7025 Thorneton Rd
Easton, MD 21601 USA

THANK YOU!!!

Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM 243


On Aug 4, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg <ann-sofie@...> wrote:

I will!

Hälsningar
Ann-Sofie Svanberg


Skickat från min iPhone

4 aug. 2019 kl. 23:06 skrev Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...>:

Hi Ann-Sofie,

I would like four of these if it is not too much trouble.  They can be sent to me at

  • Mark Pitt (S/V Sabbatical III)
  • WICKFORD COVE MARINA
  • 65 REYNOLDS ST
  • NORTH KINGSTOWN, RI 02852-5801
  • United States

Thank you.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM419
Rockland, Maine


On Aug 4, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg <ann-sofie@...> wrote:

I am on my way to Sweden and will even be close the swedish shop. Will be there at the end of August.

If you are interested, I can see how many I can buy and send to you. 
Can be easier than asking them to send world wide.
Just let me know how many and where to send.

Hälsningar/Regards
Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila SM232, 1998


Skickat från min iPhone



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

karkauai
 

I’ll call in the morning.  Just to be sure, the height of the original gasket is 1” or 25mm, correct?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 4, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

The important thing is that the material should not be so firm and high that it stresses the hinges and will latch down evenly. Too thick or firm would make stress and uneven compression that could lead to leaks.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 

Ocean Pearl

On 05 August 2019 at 08:10 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile. 

That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer.

Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:

I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocen Pearl

On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:

I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML

 

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

          

 

http://www.acmerubber.com/round.htm





Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kent,

If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:

 

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

          

 

Let me know what they say

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 3:11 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
 
Here’s the site I was looking at.  These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).


I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:

Steve, 

Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber. 

EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.

Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.


It will take about 90' to do everything.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

How does this product look using the BT Tape?  


Regards,
Steve
Aloha SM72

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Spinnaker or parasailor

Joerg Esdorn
 

Paul, the Parasailor is not as easy to launch as my Code Zero on a furler but it's less work than setting the pole.  There are two ways to set it.  The standard way is using 2 sheets and 2 guys running through blocks at the bow.  The way I've started using it this season is with the ATN tacker, which requires just one sheet, and one downhaul line at the tacker.  I also use barber haulers that prevent the clew from rising too high.  With the snuffer, it's easy to retrieve it if you ease the sheet so it collapses but when the wind comes up (say>20 knots), it can be hard work getting the bag down without it going in the water.  You'll want to fall off and do it downwind in the lee of the mainsail if you can.  That means you need to set the main if it's not up already.  I've done it plenty of times this season with just 2 people on the boat so it can be done.  

You can use the Parasailor from about 6 - 7 knots true and for AWA of between 90 and 160 degrees if you have the mizzen up or 180 degrees if the mizzen is down.  You can have the main up as well if the AWA is less than about 120 degrees or more in higher wind speeds.  So it's a lot more flexible than the poled out Genoa, which you can use between 150 and 180 AWA in my experience.  I've not poled out the Code Zero but since it's wider than the Genoa, I suspect it's even more restrictive than the Genoa.  The boat will go quite a bit faster than with the poled out Genoa (.5 to 1knot faster in most situations) and will not roll as much - the Parasailor stabilizes the boat actually.  I've not had the Parasailor up in more than 20 knots true but I've spoken to an A55 owner who did the ARC with it and had it up at night during squalls in up to 30 knots.  That sounds a bit much to me.   I've typically taken it down in 20 plus and switched to the Genoa, poled out if the angle is right.  

Happy to discuss on the phone if you'd like.  Just PM me.  

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53, Kincsem
Almerimar, Spain


Genoa car springs

Alan Leslie
 

I need to replace the springs in one of my Antal genoa cars.
The springs and block are attached to the car by a stainless rod that runs from fwd to aft and is dead ended at the aft end.
There is a split pin through a hole in the rod to prevent the rod from coming out.
I can't turn the rod to get the split pin out...and even if I could I doubt that I could get the rod out.
Has anyone done this before?
Any advice on how to remove that rod ?
Thanks
Alan
Elyse SM437 


Re: New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

I think the fact there is no tender attached to your boat is enough of a signal, don't you?.

Danny'

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 05 August 2019 at 11:40 seagasm <seagasm@...> wrote:

Personally, I would never put my boat name on my tender, only the registration number eg. T/T Reg 9999. By doing this you avoid the possibility of someone ashore immediately identifying that boat by name has no-one on board. A security measure everyone should consider.

Kind Regards
Barry Ferguson
Tradewinds III SM #171

On 05/08/19 08:42, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg wrote:
Write ”T/T” followed by your boats name on it.  
T/T = Tender To


Hälsningar/regards/cumprimentos
Ann-Sofie Svanberg


Skickat från min iPhone

4 aug. 2019 kl. 22:39 skrev Mark Erdos < mcerdos@...>:

Alex,

 

In the USA, your USA cruising permit does not include the dinghy. You are required to have a state registration. The guy did you a favor by not writing you a ticket. It doesn’t really matter which state you register in so long as you have some sort of registration. Rule of thumb, if it has a motor, it must be registered.

 

The difficult part is explaining to the local tax agency that you are required to register the dinghy (per the authorities) but you do not reside there or have a mailing address in the state to where they can mail you the permit. It is really screwed up. If you are in a marina, that’ll be easier as you can use their address.

 

Or

 

You can mark the dinghy “T/T No Stress” and show them the federal rules that allow you to use the tender to transit ONLY to and from the mothership (no joy riding). Most law enforcement officers are unaware of this. You will need to carry it with you. I do not know where to point you to online for the rules. Perhaps someone else can help.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alex Ramseyer
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

 

Dear Amelians, I just head a local constable visiting me, asking for my dinghy registration.  He sais any motorized boat has to be registered in the State of N.Y. My AMEL is Swiss registered and logically if that was true, I would also need to register my AMEL in N.Y. However, this guy wants to give me a ticket if he sees me again motoring in the Dinghy. Any locals reading this, please advise what I should say to his guy next time...
Alex
"NO STRESS ".....!!!!!!!

 


 


 


Re: New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

seagasm
 

Personally, I would never put my boat name on my tender, only the registration number eg. T/T Reg 9999. By doing this you avoid the possibility of someone ashore immediately identifying that boat by name has no-one on board. A security measure everyone should consider.

Kind Regards
Barry Ferguson
Tradewinds III SM #171

On 05/08/19 08:42, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg wrote:
Write ”T/T” followed by your boats name on it.  
T/T = Tender To


Hälsningar/regards/cumprimentos
Ann-Sofie Svanberg


Skickat från min iPhone

4 aug. 2019 kl. 22:39 skrev Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>:

Alex,

 

In the USA, your USA cruising permit does not include the dinghy. You are required to have a state registration. The guy did you a favor by not writing you a ticket. It doesn’t really matter which state you register in so long as you have some sort of registration. Rule of thumb, if it has a motor, it must be registered.

 

The difficult part is explaining to the local tax agency that you are required to register the dinghy (per the authorities) but you do not reside there or have a mailing address in the state to where they can mail you the permit. It is really screwed up. If you are in a marina, that’ll be easier as you can use their address.

 

Or

 

You can mark the dinghy “T/T No Stress” and show them the federal rules that allow you to use the tender to transit ONLY to and from the mothership (no joy riding). Most law enforcement officers are unaware of this. You will need to carry it with you. I do not know where to point you to online for the rules. Perhaps someone else can help.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alex Ramseyer
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

 

Dear Amelians, I just head a local constable visiting me, asking for my dinghy registration.  He sais any motorized boat has to be registered in the State of N.Y. My AMEL is Swiss registered and logically if that was true, I would also need to register my AMEL in N.Y. However, this guy wants to give me a ticket if he sees me again motoring in the Dinghy. Any locals reading this, please advise what I should say to his guy next time...
Alex
"NO STRESS ".....!!!!!!!



Re: New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg
 

Write ”T/T” followed by your boats name on it.  
T/T = Tender To


Hälsningar/regards/cumprimentos
Ann-Sofie Svanberg


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4 aug. 2019 kl. 22:39 skrev Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>:

Alex,

 

In the USA, your USA cruising permit does not include the dinghy. You are required to have a state registration. The guy did you a favor by not writing you a ticket. It doesn’t really matter which state you register in so long as you have some sort of registration. Rule of thumb, if it has a motor, it must be registered.

 

The difficult part is explaining to the local tax agency that you are required to register the dinghy (per the authorities) but you do not reside there or have a mailing address in the state to where they can mail you the permit. It is really screwed up. If you are in a marina, that’ll be easier as you can use their address.

 

Or

 

You can mark the dinghy “T/T No Stress” and show them the federal rules that allow you to use the tender to transit ONLY to and from the mothership (no joy riding). Most law enforcement officers are unaware of this. You will need to carry it with you. I do not know where to point you to online for the rules. Perhaps someone else can help.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alex Ramseyer
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

 

Dear Amelians, I just head a local constable visiting me, asking for my dinghy registration.  He sais any motorized boat has to be registered in the State of N.Y. My AMEL is Swiss registered and logically if that was true, I would also need to register my AMEL in N.Y. However, this guy wants to give me a ticket if he sees me again motoring in the Dinghy. Any locals reading this, please advise what I should say to his guy next time...
Alex
"NO STRESS ".....!!!!!!!


Re: Goiot parts and seals -Rubber Buttons

Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg
 

I will!

Hälsningar
Ann-Sofie Svanberg


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4 aug. 2019 kl. 23:06 skrev Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...>:

Hi Ann-Sofie,

I would like four of these if it is not too much trouble.  They can be sent to me at

  • Mark Pitt (S/V Sabbatical III)
  • WICKFORD COVE MARINA
  • 65 REYNOLDS ST
  • NORTH KINGSTOWN, RI 02852-5801
  • United States

Thank you.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM419
Rockland, Maine


On Aug 4, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg <ann-sofie@...> wrote:

I am on my way to Sweden and will even be close the swedish shop. Will be there at the end of August.

If you are interested, I can see how many I can buy and send to you. 
Can be easier than asking them to send world wide.
Just let me know how many and where to send.

Hälsningar/Regards
Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila SM232, 1998


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Re: New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

Mark Erdos
 

Alex,

 

In the USA, your USA cruising permit does not include the dinghy. You are required to have a state registration. The guy did you a favor by not writing you a ticket. It doesn’t really matter which state you register in so long as you have some sort of registration. Rule of thumb, if it has a motor, it must be registered.

 

The difficult part is explaining to the local tax agency that you are required to register the dinghy (per the authorities) but you do not reside there or have a mailing address in the state to where they can mail you the permit. It is really screwed up. If you are in a marina, that’ll be easier as you can use their address.

 

Or

 

You can mark the dinghy “T/T No Stress” and show them the federal rules that allow you to use the tender to transit ONLY to and from the mothership (no joy riding). Most law enforcement officers are unaware of this. You will need to carry it with you. I do not know where to point you to online for the rules. Perhaps someone else can help.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alex Ramseyer
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

 

Dear Amelians, I just head a local constable visiting me, asking for my dinghy registration.  He sais any motorized boat has to be registered in the State of N.Y. My AMEL is Swiss registered and logically if that was true, I would also need to register my AMEL in N.Y. However, this guy wants to give me a ticket if he sees me again motoring in the Dinghy. Any locals reading this, please advise what I should say to his guy next time...
Alex
"NO STRESS ".....!!!!!!!


Re: Goiot parts and seals -Rubber Buttons

Mark Pitt
 

Hi Ann-Sofie,

I would like four of these if it is not too much trouble.  They can be sent to me at

  • Mark Pitt (S/V Sabbatical III)
  • WICKFORD COVE MARINA
  • 65 REYNOLDS ST
  • NORTH KINGSTOWN, RI 02852-5801
  • United States

Thank you.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM419
Rockland, Maine


On Aug 4, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg <ann-sofie@...> wrote:

I am on my way to Sweden and will even be close the swedish shop. Will be there at the end of August.

If you are interested, I can see how many I can buy and send to you. 
Can be easier than asking them to send world wide.
Just let me know how many and where to send.

Hälsningar/Regards
Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila SM232, 1998


Skickat från min iPhone