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Re: Delos series 205?

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

Yes, I did see errors in the Delos video.  Thank you for pointing out this video otherwise I would not have known about it and would have missed an opportunity to view any part of the video. 
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Antal Block and Dyneema loops

Wolfgang Weber
 

Hi Koko, 
Good to know, I will try after using WD40.
Thank you very much Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162






Re: Deleware Bay --> Cape May anchorages

Wolfgang Weber
 

Hello Craig 
Thank you very much for this helpful  Informations
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162






Re: Storm tactics

Jacob Champness
 

How did you have the drogue attached when you had that experience?  I'm trying to envision how the mizzen shrouds would be involved. 


Re: Storm tactics

Jacob Champness
 

Thanks.  Very interesting article!


Re: Deleware Bay --> Cape May anchorages

Thomas Peacock
 

We just overnighted at Hancocks. Indeed, the Cohansie is generally very deep. Charts do not indicate depths. While pretty close to the center of the river, we did run aground, needed to kedge off. But again, most areas are 15 to 30 feet. Depending on timing, mosquitoes and/or green heads can be a real nuisance. 
On the New Jersey Atlantic coast, I would be reluctant to go into Manasquan. Not really anything between Atlantic City and Sandy Hook. However, Sandy Hook has always been a surprisingly beautiful anchorage. Three weeks ago we saw a breaching humpback right in Raritan Bay. Only about ten miles from NYC. 
Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay, US


On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Craig Briggs via Groups.Io <sangaris@...> wrote:

Hi Wolfgang,
There's a wonderful "secret" anchorage on that route. It's the Cohansey River part way down Delaware Bay and you can anchor around any bend as you go up the river. This is an old commercial freighter port and has lots of depth going in and all the way up the river. Keep entry light "1C" close to port going in and then stay far left for 6 to 7 Meters (20-25 feet) of water. If you go up a few bends there's a fun restaurant at Hancock Marine where you can tie off at their dock. Approach depth is 3-4 meters.  In calm winds there are mosquitoes the farther up the river you go.
At Cape May you can easily carry your draft into the inlet and anchor either to the left towards the Coast Guard Station or to the right before the bridge or past it. Watch for 180° tide change.
Check Active Captain for more info on these anchorages.
Cheers, Craig - SN68 Sangaris - Tropic Isle Harbor FL


Re: Did you catch 4 errors on the Delos series 205?

eric freedman
 

Mark,

Did you see any errors in the video?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark & Debbie Mueller
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 8:43 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Did you catch 4 errors on the Delos series 205?

 

Could you specify the four errors you identified on the Delos video for anyone that is still just marginally Amel challenged?  Thanks.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Storm tactics

eric freedman
 

http://www.oceannavigator.com/March-April-2011/Prepare-for-survival-conditions/

 

 

Hi Jacob,

Yes I have been in a hurricane on the drogue.

Please see above.

When I had kimberlite built I had the stern cleats super reinforced.

In an existing installation I would change out the cleats for heavy forged stainless ones and add a big piece of backing.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Champness
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 6:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Storm tactics

 

Hey Eric-- 
Did you add chain plates to attach the drogue?  If not, where and how do you attach it?  Have you ever had to use it?
Thanks,
Jacob
Lark, Maramu #42
Mistake Island, Maine


Re: Storm tactics

eric freedman
 

From day one, I have been against sea anchors. Being that they are launched from the bow , you are basically going backwards or standing still.

I was always concerned about the forces on the rudder vs going down wind on a drogue.

Most of them are also a pain to retrieve.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Forbes
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 12:48 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Storm tactics

 

Thank s Brian - good luck choosing!

 

Peter

Peter Forbes

0044 7836 209730

Carango  Sailing Ketch

Amel 54 #035

In La Rochelle

 

On 7 Aug 2019, at 17:37, Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:

 

Peter,

I've been doing more research on this...again. I used to own a 27' off-shore center console power cat with a ParaTech sea Anchor. That's very different from say an Amel Santorin. I'm currently leaning towards a JDS if budget and space require me to choose. Otherwise, I'd have both and be prepared for both. However, I expect my first inclination would be to reach for the JDS.

This link provides a good, although sometimes heated, discussion. I think there is a good deal of value that can be learned for this.
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f90/jordan-series-drogue-vs-paratech-sea-anchor-42662.html

Cheers!
Brian Riggs
Future Amel Owner

 


AmelYachtOwners] ----Peter please take a look at the attached link--Storm tactics

eric freedman
 

Hi Peter,

Check this out please.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

http://www.oceannavigator.com/March-April-2011/Prepare-for-survival-conditions/

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Riggs
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 12:38 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Storm tactics

 

Peter,

I've been doing more research on this...again. I used to own a 27' off-shore center console power cat with a ParaTech sea Anchor. That's very different from say an Amel Santorin. I'm currently leaning towards a JDS if budget and space require me to choose. Otherwise, I'd have both and be prepared for both. However, I expect my first inclination would be to reach for the JDS.

This link provides a good, although sometimes heated, discussion. I think there is a good deal of value that can be learned for this.
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f90/jordan-series-drogue-vs-paratech-sea-anchor-42662.html

Cheers!
Brian Riggs
Future Amel Owner


Re: Deleware Bay --> Cape May anchorages

Craig Briggs
 

.... and continuing up the New Jersey shore you've got Absecon Inlet (Atlantic City) which is excellent and you can anchor off the Coast Guard station or take a marina and try your luck in the casinos.  After that Manasquan is feasible, but you'd be better off going up to Sandy Hook.
Craig


Re: Storm tactics

Jacob Champness
 

Oh, I see that you addressed that further down. 

Has anyone here added the additional chainplates?  The Maramu has what looks to be a very sturdy and unused pair of chainplates, which I understand is used to hoist each hull into a test tank before launching. (Not sure if the Super Maramu has that as well)   I was thinking that would be a good attachment point, but it leaves the question of how to run the legs of the bridle back to the transom and overboard without chafing.  I'd appreciate any thoughts...

Thanks!
Jacob
Lark, Maramu #42
Mistake Island, Maine


Re: Deleware Bay --> Cape May anchorages

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Wolfgang,
There's a wonderful "secret" anchorage on that route. It's the Cohansey River part way down Delaware Bay and you can anchor around any bend as you go up the river. This is an old commercial freighter port and has lots of depth going in and all the way up the river. Keep entry light "1C" close to port going in and then stay far left for 6 to 7 Meters (20-25 feet) of water. If you go up a few bends there's a fun restaurant at Hancock Marine where you can tie off at their dock. Approach depth is 3-4 meters.  In calm winds there are mosquitoes the farther up the river you go.
At Cape May you can easily carry your draft into the inlet and anchor either to the left towards the Coast Guard Station or to the right before the bridge or past it. Watch for 180° tide change.
Check Active Captain for more info on these anchorages.
Cheers, Craig - SN68 Sangaris - Tropic Isle Harbor FL


Re: Storm tactics

Jacob Champness
 

Hey Eric-- 
Did you add chain plates to attach the drogue?  If not, where and how do you attach it?  Have you ever had to use it?
Thanks,
Jacob
Lark, Maramu #42
Mistake Island, Maine


Re: Amel is going lithium

Scott SV Tengah
 

Mark,

If you look at Dessalator specs you'll see that it does operate much more efficiently at 24v vs 220v.

https://www.dessalator.fr/en/products/price-list/

For my Duo100, operating at 220v uses nearly 60% more wattage than operating at 24v. Moreover, inverters aren't 100% efficient so I try to go 24v whenever possible.

BTW does your 160l/h actually produce 160l/h? The gauge on mine will show 100+ but measuring via the floating dipstick shows the tank is only getting 80l
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Cabin sole revarnishing

smiles bernard
 

Hello there

Our cabin sole needs some tlc. Family sailing with young boys onboard means it’s seen some action and I need to revarnish it.

In high traffic areas we are down through varnish to bare wood in patches.

I’d greatly appreciate any advice on how best to restore the floor.

Do you think I need to remove all the existing varnish 1st? If so I assume cabinet scrappers would be the best option - if very slow :(

Then I was thinking of a few coats of epoxy ?? and then a matt varnish. Perhaps a water based one so it’s not so toxic during the application

It’d be great to get any tips from folk who have done this before


Many thanks in advance

Miles
Maramu 162
Plymouth Uk


Re: Amel is going lithium

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

In the information you provided on August 6 you mentioned that your water maker outputs approximately 80 LPH consuming 600 W.  We have the Dessalator 160 which is 220 V only.  When operating it is speced at 16 A or 3520 W.  Dividing in half to correct down to 80 LPH assuming a straight line function we would use 1760 W or approximately 3 times the power consumption for the same output as your Dessalator. 

 

Could you please verify your power consumption and water output?  I would like to try to determine if I have something wrong with my Dessalator or the Duo operates extremely efficiently on 24 V.  Thanks.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Amel is going lithium

Scott SV Tengah
 
Edited

Nick,

I can and have run the hot water heater on battery. It's only 700w so similar to the water maker, but of course 220v so inverter inefficiencies come into play.

To clarify, I can do all of those things I mentioned earlier. I can run the water maker on battery alone, I can run AC all night on battery, I can heat water. That is a testament to lithium's ability to handle high current loads with no issue. But those are extraordinary uses - my 960w solar array cannot output enough power if I engage in those high current loads every day. That said, the charging efficiency and current "intake" capacity of lithium makes the panels far more efficient than they would be with lead/agm/gel.

I do cook with induction, dishwasher, microwave daily on battery, though.

Hope this helps.
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Storm tactics

Peter Forbes
 

Thank s Brian - good luck choosing!

Peter
Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
In La Rochelle

On 7 Aug 2019, at 17:37, Brian Riggs <7briggs@...> wrote:

Peter,

I've been doing more research on this...again. I used to own a 27' off-shore center console power cat with a ParaTech sea Anchor. That's very different from say an Amel Santorin. I'm currently leaning towards a JDS if budget and space require me to choose. Otherwise, I'd have both and be prepared for both. However, I expect my first inclination would be to reach for the JDS.

This link provides a good, although sometimes heated, discussion. I think there is a good deal of value that can be learned for this.
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f90/jordan-series-drogue-vs-paratech-sea-anchor-42662.html

Cheers!
Brian Riggs
Future Amel Owner


Re: Storm tactics

Brian Riggs
 

Peter,

I've been doing more research on this...again. I used to own a 27' off-shore center console power cat with a ParaTech sea Anchor. That's very different from say an Amel Santorin. I'm currently leaning towards a JDS if budget and space require me to choose. Otherwise, I'd have both and be prepared for both. However, I expect my first inclination would be to reach for the JDS.

This link provides a good, although sometimes heated, discussion. I think there is a good deal of value that can be learned for this.
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f90/jordan-series-drogue-vs-paratech-sea-anchor-42662.html

Cheers!
Brian Riggs
Future Amel Owner