Date   
Mast cosmetic

Bernd Spanner
 

Hi, I have some „bubbles“ in my mast around some old rivets and holes.
Two questions:
1. How can I close the holes (drilling the old rivets out or better close them with new rivets?)
2. I would like to repaint the mast. At least the lower half. Any recommendations about primer, 1or2 comp colors, RAL code etc on a SN 1995.
Thanks
--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal

Re: ONAN Generator not starting

 

Alan,

I believe that you are describing a situation where the Onan attempts to turnover, but it seems as though you are trying to start it with a weak or dead battery. I recently reviewed this situation with a client. I think this may help, if not solve the issue:

On all of the SMs and 54s that I have checked, the length of battery cable to the Onan is almost twice as long as the cable to main engine, but the size of the wire to the Onan is the same size (gauge) as the main engine. Logic tells me that either the main engine battery cable is oversized, or the Onan cable is undersized.

The Onan has starter battery connection terminals on the left-side-facing and near the rear of the Onan. The Onan has a hidden-from-view cables from the battery connection terminals mentioned above to the battery side of the negative solenoid and positive starter solenoid. This is Onan Part Number: 338-3577-01 Battery Harness
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I believe, that in at least some cases, this  Onan Part Number 338-3577-01 Battery Harness  is the cause of a loss of amperage throughput to the starter. I have advised a few clients when experiencing this issue to:
  1. Ensure that the starting battery is in good condition 
  2. The battery wire terminal blocks in the first sentence above are clean and treated with CorrosionX
  3. The negative solenoid is working correctly
  4. And that all starting circuit and battery connections are clean and treated with CorrosionX

If all of the above is checked/completed and the Onan is still not starting, You should shut off Battery Main Switches to perform the following:  
  1. Fabricate a jumper wire using appropriate sized copper wire and ring terminals (probably at least 8mm diameter (AWG-1)) from the negative connection block on the outside of the Onan (mentioned above) to the battery-side of the negative solenoid
  2. If this does not work, next fabricate a jumper for the positive side. 
IMPORTANT TO ALL: If you cannot identify the components I have identified and/or you are not competent with DC voltage and wiring, seek professional help to do this.

Alan, I know that you are competent. Please let me know if this works for you and I would appreciate photos. I have tried to find a drawing of the suspected connection wire, but have not. There is limited evidence that points to this jumper wire being a solution, but I am not positive.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Aug 10, 2019, 7:57 PM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

I know this is an old thread, but it serves to indicate how useful this forum is.
I had the issue of the Onan not cranking over the last few days.
Press the start button and it would prime, it would try to crank and then stop.
I checked all the power connections, cleaned and retightened...same issue.
then I went in the forum and saw this post.
Hmmm...so I started the main engine, and the Onan cranked no problem.
So it's the start battery?.no, well it is and it isn't.
I hadn't been on the boat for 4 months but i have a small 12v maintenance charger to keep the start battery up.
And that's what the problem is - the charger had died!
I've since charged up the start battery (1008CCA) and load tested it (perfect) and the Onan cranks every time.
So big thank you to everyone on the forum for all the input, it truly is a marvelous resource.
Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Hi Gary on Adagio

Gary Wells
 

Hi Eric!!  

Just a quick pass through this week.  Looking to beat the weather and get to Shelburne, NS in the next couple of days.

We ~will~ be back in just a few weeks.  Want to explore Cape Cod, then yes .. Newport, Block Island and then  the river and visit LI and the big Apple.

Will definitely try to connect!!  

Gary W.
SM SV209,  Adagio
Mattapoisett Bay .. waiting on the Canal :)

Re: Amel is going lithium

 

Colin, 

Very understandable with lots of actual and current information. Thanks for that.

There are many ways to cruise and many more methods to power your requirements aboard an Amel. When we account for personal needs and wishes, it is easy for anyone to clearly see that no one solution will fit everyone. In fact, it is likely that no single solution fits anyone else's.

When you turnover your Amel to new owners, be sure that what you've added and modified is completely documented and understood.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 6:22 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Hi Scott

In answer to your questions, here is a pic of the boat from the drone we took recently in Marquesas showing you where the solar and wind gens are located. (We have 540W on the davits plus 500w above the cockpit. Unlike Delos who placed the wind gens at the rear, we placed another small handy arch in front of the Emerek arch to brace it even further for a much heavier dinghy (if ever required), and this is also where I now also have handy space for anything I wish to mount in the future such as security cameras, lights, the IridiumGo Cruiser package dome aerial etc..etc. By locating the wind gens here, I feel it is more away from shading the panels,(but no doubt does shade bits of them at times?). Although we have Victron equipment (eg Victron 3000w inverter / 70amp 24v charger) and remote controls, I did not bother to add the fancy Victron monitoring tools, but have not really noticed any reduction in solar output since adding the 2nd arch and 2 x wind gens. 

We have covered a lot of distance in the past two years so I find we are often full of power, and simply dumping excess solar/wind power generated. For that reason, and without having Lithium (where due to lower weight and space requirements, I would be very tempted to add much more battery storage capacity to capture that all excess power for rainy weeks)  I am far less interested in the cumulative solar or wind power generated than I am in when it is generated eg at night or on cloudy/rainy days.

In terms of the Duo 100 watermaker, we have at times run it in good sunny periods just on the batteries, but that has only been for incremental water after poor planning on our part. After cruising the boat permanently for just over two years, we have become far smarter at forward planning our water and energy requirements, and picking the best times to run the watermaker. Possibly this has been easier for us than for most as we have done over 30,000 nm in this time, (see our live tracker page link here:  https://forecast.predictwind.com/tra.../display/IslandPearl2 )  so have sailed and motor sailed a lot, and thus had far more opportunity than most to not run the genset. Also, these days it is just Lauren and me on the boat, and with a 1000L water tank, it is has been very rare indeed that we have ever put the genset on to make water, in fact, I cannot even remember a recent time we had to do this. Previously when we had 3 crew on board, with everyone using the showers, electric kettle, etc in a much less coordinated way, we simply could not plan our energy usage to the same level, and the genset was on daily.

On passages there are very often times when you will need to motor sail, (for example last week on the 1200nm passage from Bora Bora to Niue we had just 4kts - 9kts of wind for 4 long days! ouch!) and that's a prime example of when we like to make most our water, as I am then looking for ways to dump all that excess power, especially when the sun is also shining and when the batteries are already 100%. What I prefer to do on these occasions is to use the inverter and then run the Duo on 230v ac (rather than on 24v dc), as I find it slightly faster than on DC.

Regarding the Induction Stove, we purchased a "home-style" above kitchen benchtop "Phillips brand" plugin induction stove. These are pretty inexpensive nowadays and are awesome little units if you get a good quality brand name.  Our one has power options of 1800w, 1200w, 800w, 400w and is amazingly fast! So, for example, knowing we have a 3000w inverter, and we tend not to load it more than 2500w at any one time (eg computer, 1200w stove fast boiling, 750w microwave & plenty reserve) if possible, and so we have learned to adjust both the microwave power watts, and the stovetop watts as needed, for example, the rice pot on the induction comes onto the boil,(then down to 400w) and the veggies in the microwave need 900w instead of 750w to cook faster.  

The Phillips induction stove is one hotplate only glass top unit, and it fits perfectly on top of the standard Amel gas stove, and clips in under the existing pot holder steel rails. The great thing about this is it is perfectly gimballed and we have often had, for example, a huge pot of curry cooking there in 3m+ waves and it stays perfectly on the stovetop, but we still need to think about designing a decent stainless set of pot clamps for the little induction unit, just in case! Of course, being a benchtop model, we then also have the option of moving it onto the side benchtop too, and then using both gas cookers and induction, but this has never yet been necessary for us. Our gas usage is so seldom that we last filled our propane gas up in Mauritius 1 year ago and it is still full!

The last point I should mention is your hot water system (as this is normally the only time when we sometimes need to run the genset now, unplanned .for 15 - 20mins at night. (for the Admiral's shower). We decided to replace our hot water boiler with a new 1200w model (previously 600 or 700w?) unit in 2017 just before cruising. This is amazingly fast and cuts down the heating time (and hence ad hoc unplanned genset use time too!) from 50mins to less than 20mins approx for 40L. We can, and sometimes do, simply heat it via the inverter from the batteries if the wind is blowing hard at night etc.., but when I sell the boat later this year, I would probably advise the new owner to think carefully about this in term of his/her needs and crew plans, and potentially remove this option (ie. to run it off batteries) as one could easily have a new crew member turn it on and forget, and then run down the house batteries far faster than one might like!

Best regards
Colin Streeter
SV Island Pearl II , SM #332. (for sale in November in Australia when we complete our circumnavigation - contact me or the broker)
Niue (& Tonga next week)




On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 4:43 AM Scott SV Tengah <sv.tengah@...> wrote:
Colin,

Good to hear from you! It's amazing we're now so far apart given we were nearly next to each other just a few months ago.

That's great that you have so much generation capacity. So you can run the water maker (25amps) and induction (80+ amps) from your non-lithium batteries? I never tried that on my previous gel batteries because of lack of a capable inverter, but I didn't think it would have worked. One "weakness" of my current system is that I can't replenish, via renewable sources, all the power we use. With our current usage level, it doesn't make sense to have more than 450AH capacity because we don't generate enough renewable power daily so it's a question of how often we have to run the genset. Where do you have all that solar? Just on the arch or elsewhere too?

Do you have longer term data on the output of the Rutlands? I have heard so many conflicting stories on what people "think" their wind generators output on a daily basis. It would be interesting to see what they produce on average, over the course of months, in the normal trade wind circumnavigation route. Also, what about noise/hum/resonance?

Also where do you have them mounted? If I were to add them, I would put one on the mizzen mast and that's it. I have tested minor shading on the panels and even with my parallel wired 3 panel setup, solar output drops considerably with shading. I'm concerned that the solar reduction attributed to shading via a setup like Delos with the windgens located nearly directly above the panels would cancel out any output from the windgen. Lithium will not make windgens, if they produce considerable power, unnecessary. I would love to have more renewable generation capacity.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

Re: Wintering in potentially freezing conditions, water maker?

Thomas Peacock
 

Just remember that the membranes are never supposed to be left dry, so leave some sort of water solution in contact with the membranes. I’m not sure that the entire output side of the tube needs to be immersed in water, but some should be left to maintain humidity.
So many things to consider.

Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay, US

On Aug 11, 2019, at 4:54 AM, SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:

Hi Miles,
I understand your flushing circuit description, that seems like a great idea especially if you have to winter in the cold every year.

As I understand it from this thread, neither the glycerin solution nor the propylene glycol will cross the membrane, so it seems to be still important to drain any desalinated water from the output side, including the flow-meter tube.

Many thanks again to all
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154



Sent from my iPhone X

Re: Amel is going lithium

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Hi Scott

In answer to your questions, here is a pic of the boat from the drone we took recently in Marquesas showing you where the solar and wind gens are located. (We have 540W on the davits plus 500w above the cockpit. Unlike Delos who placed the wind gens at the rear, we placed another small handy arch in front of the Emerek arch to brace it even further for a much heavier dinghy (if ever required), and this is also where I now also have handy space for anything I wish to mount in the future such as security cameras, lights, the IridiumGo Cruiser package dome aerial etc..etc. By locating the wind gens here, I feel it is more away from shading the panels,(but no doubt does shade bits of them at times?). Although we have Victron equipment (eg Victron 3000w inverter / 70amp 24v charger) and remote controls, I did not bother to add the fancy Victron monitoring tools, but have not really noticed any reduction in solar output since adding the 2nd arch and 2 x wind gens. 

We have covered a lot of distance in the past two years so I find we are often full of power, and simply dumping excess solar/wind power generated. For that reason, and without having Lithium (where due to lower weight and space requirements, I would be very tempted to add much more battery storage capacity to capture that all excess power for rainy weeks)  I am far less interested in the cumulative solar or wind power generated than I am in when it is generated eg at night or on cloudy/rainy days.

In terms of the Duo 100 watermaker, we have at times run it in good sunny periods just on the batteries, but that has only been for incremental water after poor planning on our part. After cruising the boat permanently for just over two years, we have become far smarter at forward planning our water and energy requirements, and picking the best times to run the watermaker. Possibly this has been easier for us than for most as we have done over 30,000 nm in this time, (see our live tracker page link here:  https://forecast.predictwind.com/tra.../display/IslandPearl2 )  so have sailed and motor sailed a lot, and thus had far more opportunity than most to not run the genset. Also, these days it is just Lauren and me on the boat, and with a 1000L water tank, it is has been very rare indeed that we have ever put the genset on to make water, in fact, I cannot even remember a recent time we had to do this. Previously when we had 3 crew on board, with everyone using the showers, electric kettle, etc in a much less coordinated way, we simply could not plan our energy usage to the same level, and the genset was on daily.

On passages there are very often times when you will need to motor sail, (for example last week on the 1200nm passage from Bora Bora to Niue we had just 4kts - 9kts of wind for 4 long days! ouch!) and that's a prime example of when we like to make most our water, as I am then looking for ways to dump all that excess power, especially when the sun is also shining and when the batteries are already 100%. What I prefer to do on these occasions is to use the inverter and then run the Duo on 230v ac (rather than on 24v dc), as I find it slightly faster than on DC.

Regarding the Induction Stove, we purchased a "home-style" above kitchen benchtop "Phillips brand" plugin induction stove. These are pretty inexpensive nowadays and are awesome little units if you get a good quality brand name.  Our one has power options of 1800w, 1200w, 800w, 400w and is amazingly fast! So, for example, knowing we have a 3000w inverter, and we tend not to load it more than 2500w at any one time (eg computer, 1200w stove fast boiling, 750w microwave & plenty reserve) if possible, and so we have learned to adjust both the microwave power watts, and the stovetop watts as needed, for example, the rice pot on the induction comes onto the boil,(then down to 400w) and the veggies in the microwave need 900w instead of 750w to cook faster.  

The Phillips induction stove is one hotplate only glass top unit, and it fits perfectly on top of the standard Amel gas stove, and clips in under the existing pot holder steel rails. The great thing about this is it is perfectly gimballed and we have often had, for example, a huge pot of curry cooking there in 3m+ waves and it stays perfectly on the stovetop, but we still need to think about designing a decent stainless set of pot clamps for the little induction unit, just in case! Of course, being a benchtop model, we then also have the option of moving it onto the side benchtop too, and then using both gas cookers and induction, but this has never yet been necessary for us. Our gas usage is so seldom that we last filled our propane gas up in Mauritius 1 year ago and it is still full!

The last point I should mention is your hot water system (as this is normally the only time when we sometimes need to run the genset now, unplanned .for 15 - 20mins at night. (for the Admiral's shower). We decided to replace our hot water boiler with a new 1200w model (previously 600 or 700w?) unit in 2017 just before cruising. This is amazingly fast and cuts down the heating time (and hence ad hoc unplanned genset use time too!) from 50mins to less than 20mins approx for 40L. We can, and sometimes do, simply heat it via the inverter from the batteries if the wind is blowing hard at night etc.., but when I sell the boat later this year, I would probably advise the new owner to think carefully about this in term of his/her needs and crew plans, and potentially remove this option (ie. to run it off batteries) as one could easily have a new crew member turn it on and forget, and then run down the house batteries far faster than one might like!

Best regards
Colin Streeter
SV Island Pearl II , SM #332. (for sale in November in Australia when we complete our circumnavigation - contact me or the broker)
Niue (& Tonga next week)




On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 4:43 AM Scott SV Tengah <sv.tengah@...> wrote:
Colin,

Good to hear from you! It's amazing we're now so far apart given we were nearly next to each other just a few months ago.

That's great that you have so much generation capacity. So you can run the water maker (25amps) and induction (80+ amps) from your non-lithium batteries? I never tried that on my previous gel batteries because of lack of a capable inverter, but I didn't think it would have worked. One "weakness" of my current system is that I can't replenish, via renewable sources, all the power we use. With our current usage level, it doesn't make sense to have more than 450AH capacity because we don't generate enough renewable power daily so it's a question of how often we have to run the genset. Where do you have all that solar? Just on the arch or elsewhere too?

Do you have longer term data on the output of the Rutlands? I have heard so many conflicting stories on what people "think" their wind generators output on a daily basis. It would be interesting to see what they produce on average, over the course of months, in the normal trade wind circumnavigation route. Also, what about noise/hum/resonance?

Also where do you have them mounted? If I were to add them, I would put one on the mizzen mast and that's it. I have tested minor shading on the panels and even with my parallel wired 3 panel setup, solar output drops considerably with shading. I'm concerned that the solar reduction attributed to shading via a setup like Delos with the windgens located nearly directly above the panels would cancel out any output from the windgen. Lithium will not make windgens, if they produce considerable power, unnecessary. I would love to have more renewable generation capacity.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

Re: Wintering in potentially freezing conditions, water maker?

Dean Gillies
 

Hi Miles,
I understand your flushing circuit description, that seems like a great idea especially if you have to winter in the cold every year.

As I understand it from this thread, neither the glycerin solution nor the propylene glycol will cross the membrane, so it seems to be still important to drain any desalinated water from the output side, including the flow-meter tube.

Many thanks again to all
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154



Sent from my iPhone X

Sorry forgot the photo

ngtnewington Newington
 

Amelia
AML54-019

Re: “Default” anchor arrangement on an Amel 54

ngtnewington Newington
 

On Amelia I have demoted the Beugel to port side second anchor and now have a Spade 160 as the main anchor. Note that on the starboard side I have installed an extra roller to keep the chain from dragging over the stainless pulpit fitting.
This set up is really snug and fits well. 
The Delta 40kg is now in the Lazarette locker with an aluminium Fortress anchor. 

Nick
Amelia AML54-019
Sailing the Ionian


On 10 Aug 2019, at 17:28, Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:

The primary anchor on our A54 is a 33kg Rocna.  This anchor was installed on the boat when we purchased it.  The Rocna has set first time every time for us and the prior owner had literally been around the world with this anchor.  The galvanizing is worn off the tip and it is slightly rusty and I would not trade it for anything unless it was a 40 kg Rocna.

 

We did change the anchor swivel to a Mantus, I believe the manner the Mantus swivel connects to the chain spreads the load more evenly and is much more secure.  The neck of the swivel that was supplied by Amel had bent at some point presumably during a sideways pull.


--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: Watermaker motor

Denis Elborn
 

Thanks for your input.

Before taking the motor out I removed one of the brushes and the armature seemed pretty dirty so I cleaned that up and it is working at the moment, probably could do with a set of brushes as well.

Thanks again for your help

Aventura A54~113
Den and Julie


On 1 Aug 2019, at 2:07 am, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Gary,

Automotive solenoids are not usually isolated ground solenoids. I would

check it. Automotive solenoids usually have the negative side connected internally to the mounting ears. If this is the case you defeat the isolated ground on your boat.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Wells
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 10:28 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Watermaker motor

 

Similar scenario while we were underway.  I managed to get that DC motor free and on to the cockpit floor.  There were four little hard rubber covers that held the brushes in place and when I pried them open the black dust that came out was phenomenal. 

I used a spray-air can (duster) and some spray electrical contact cleaner to clean it up and it worked fine for a couple of weeks until I could get it to a re-builder in St. Thomas(USVI).

One note; if you take it to a re-builder they may try to sell you a new relay.  At least in my case the fellow was a skilled auto mechanic but didn't understand why the unit wouldn't work when case-grounded so he wired up a whole new automotive type solenoid.  I didn't get too far trying to explain it to him, but eventually he let me take the motor back and didn't charge me for the relay. I wired the thing back up properly (take pictures!) and it's worked perfectly since then (about a year now).

Gary W.
sv Adagio, SM 209
Maryland, USA

Re: A54 seawater pump for anchor washing

greg greg
 

Thx!
clear!

Re: ONAN Generator not starting

Alan Leslie
 

I know this is an old thread, but it serves to indicate how useful this forum is.
I had the issue of the Onan not cranking over the last few days.
Press the start button and it would prime, it would try to crank and then stop.
I checked all the power connections, cleaned and retightened...same issue.
then I went in the forum and saw this post.
Hmmm...so I started the main engine, and the Onan cranked no problem.
So it's the start battery?.no, well it is and it isn't.
I hadn't been on the boat for 4 months but i have a small 12v maintenance charger to keep the start battery up.
And that's what the problem is - the charger had died!
I've since charged up the start battery (1008CCA) and load tested it (perfect) and the Onan cranks every time.
So big thank you to everyone on the forum for all the input, it truly is a marvelous resource.
Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: A54 seawater pump for anchor washing

 

Mark is is absolutely correct, and this applies to the one-way valve on the SM, 54, & 55 AC pump...you need it and it needs to work. Also, if you happen to replace the diaphragm anchor wash pump with something else (I know a few of you have), you should ensure that there is no backflow, or you will get air in the Dessalator system.

It is almost always to your peril when you decide that something Amel added, "is not necessary." Sometimes this can be learned the hard way, which is also the costly way.
 
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 10:14 AM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote:
The non-return valves or check valves are important.  These valves prevent air from being pulled backward through a non–operating piece of equipment into the common seawater distribution manifold.  Air will dramatically affect the performance of the Dessalator and negatively impact the refrigeration and other systems.  If it continues over a longer period of time the air will cause the same effect as cavitation on the metal pump impellers.  These valves are important and need to be in place.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: Amel is going lithium

Scott SV Tengah
 

Colin,

Good to hear from you! It's amazing we're now so far apart given we were nearly next to each other just a few months ago.

That's great that you have so much generation capacity. So you can run the water maker (25amps) and induction (80+ amps) from your non-lithium batteries? I never tried that on my previous gel batteries because of lack of a capable inverter, but I didn't think it would have worked. One "weakness" of my current system is that I can't replenish, via renewable sources, all the power we use. With our current usage level, it doesn't make sense to have more than 450AH capacity because we don't generate enough renewable power daily so it's a question of how often we have to run the genset. Where do you have all that solar? Just on the arch or elsewhere too?

Do you have longer term data on the output of the Rutlands? I have heard so many conflicting stories on what people "think" their wind generators output on a daily basis. It would be interesting to see what they produce on average, over the course of months, in the normal trade wind circumnavigation route. Also, what about noise/hum/resonance?

Also where do you have them mounted? If I were to add them, I would put one on the mizzen mast and that's it. I have tested minor shading on the panels and even with my parallel wired 3 panel setup, solar output drops considerably with shading. I'm concerned that the solar reduction attributed to shading via a setup like Delos with the windgens located nearly directly above the panels would cancel out any output from the windgen. Lithium will not make windgens, if they produce considerable power, unnecessary. I would love to have more renewable generation capacity.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Re: Hi Gary on Adagio

Scott SV Tengah
 

Eric,

I'll be in the Chesapeake until around late October. I'm planning on seeing the A50 at the Annapolis show. Any plans to head to the show or the Caribbean after?
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Re: “Default” anchor arrangement on an Amel 54

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

The primary anchor on our A54 is a 33kg Rocna.  This anchor was installed on the boat when we purchased it.  The Rocna has set first time every time for us and the prior owner had literally been around the world with this anchor.  The galvanizing is worn off the tip and it is slightly rusty and I would not trade it for anything unless it was a 40 kg Rocna.

 

We did change the anchor swivel to a Mantus, I believe the manner the Mantus swivel connects to the chain spreads the load more evenly and is much more secure.  The neck of the swivel that was supplied by Amel had bent at some point presumably during a sideways pull.


--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: A54 seawater pump for anchor washing

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

The non-return valves or check valves are important.  These valves prevent air from being pulled backward through a non–operating piece of equipment into the common seawater distribution manifold.  Air will dramatically affect the performance of the Dessalator and negatively impact the refrigeration and other systems.  If it continues over a longer period of time the air will cause the same effect as cavitation on the metal pump impellers.  These valves are important and need to be in place.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Hi Gary on Adagio

eric freedman
 

Hi Gary,

I see you are in my stomping grounds.

Which way are you headed?

I you head towards Huntington  Long Island please give me a shout.

I hope to be in Block early September and also Newport.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Wells
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 7:09 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Battery nightmare

 

Very similar experience in the BVIs about four years ago.  Two of the 8 batteries boiled out.
Luckily we were docked and I got them ashore quickly but after 6 hours they were still hot and bubbly, even completely disconnected.
The fault is usually internal with the battery and not necessarily a charging issue.

We ran just fine on the remaining six (I believe you could live on 4 conservatively) until I could find a compatible replacement pair (very expensive min the BVIs) and then, a couple of.months later replaced the other 6.

Since I couldn't find exact matches for the first two replacements it seemed would that they always took way more water to replenish and ran a little warmer than the other 6. I know you're not supposed to mix / mis-match but it's what we could  do at the time.
Replaced all eight less.than two years later, surely because of the mis-match but also because I knew that this was temporary.
Now have 8 Trojan 30xhs and couldn't be happier.
I also installed a two probe Taylor temperature alarm in hopes of getting a heads-up if anything like that happens again.

I'm pretty fastidious about checking and adding distilled water on the first day of every month now :)

Best!

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Block island, USA

Re: “Default” anchor arrangement on an Amel 54

Matt Salatino
 

Not all stainless reel is equal. 316 is much more corrosion resistant than 304. It’s difficult to find 316 bolts and nuts.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 10, 2019, at 3:07 AM, Ian <parkianj@...> wrote:

Just another bit of experience.
The shaft on my Spade anchor bent. It is easily replaceable, but it is hollow ( part of the design to keep lots of weight in the lead filled tip). I’m using a Rocna now - I’d put them pretty equal on setting and holding.
But this season I changed my chain over end to end. As I started to undo the hex bolt the whole thing fell apart. The top of s/s hex bolt head had turned to a black carbon looking substance and could have fallen apart anytime (photo attached). Don’t know what caused this, but I’ve removed the swivel now and returned to a seized shackle that I can keep an eye on.

It is a Kong swivel. If you are still using one I suggest a new hex bolt once a year.

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96



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Re: Battery nightmare

Gary Wells
 

Very similar experience in the BVIs about four years ago.  Two of the 8 batteries boiled out.
Luckily we were docked and I got them ashore quickly but after 6 hours they were still hot and bubbly, even completely disconnected.
The fault is usually internal with the battery and not necessarily a charging issue.

We ran just fine on the remaining six (I believe you could live on 4 conservatively) until I could find a compatible replacement pair (very expensive min the BVIs) and then, a couple of.months later replaced the other 6.

Since I couldn't find exact matches for the first two replacements it seemed would that they always took way more water to replenish and ran a little warmer than the other 6. I know you're not supposed to mix / mis-match but it's what we could  do at the time.
Replaced all eight less.than two years later, surely because of the mis-match but also because I knew that this was temporary.
Now have 8 Trojan 30xhs and couldn't be happier.
I also installed a two probe Taylor temperature alarm in hopes of getting a heads-up if anything like that happens again.

I'm pretty fastidious about checking and adding distilled water on the first day of every month now :)

Best!

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Block island, USA