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Re: When to use Running Back Stays and Onan Control Board PCB

 

Dean,

Thanks for the photo. I have been on 12 54s and none had this block that would attach to stantion, although this is what I envisioned. Several of my clients rigged something like this with cam cleats to do the job.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 11:57 AM SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:
Hi Porter,
Sounds like your travels are going with a more normal level of smoothness now! Do you plan to visit Australia, and if so, when do you expect to be there?

Regarding the runners, do you have a block fitting as shown in the attached pic for your runners?  It’s attached to the base of the staunchion adjacent to the Amel logo on the coach house. It was on Stella when we bought, but I’m not sure if it’s an original fit. It looks like it’s a pull-tight arrangement and I didn’t think it was really up to the task if the wind gets up seriously, so I’ve been using a heftier block on the rear lifting points, and using the rear cockpit winch to tension.

Maybe I could re-deploy these fittings to rig a releasable Barber hauler like you describe for a more inboard sheeting angle... hmmm. 

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154

Re: Upper C-Drive oil leak

Mark McGovern
 

Eamonn,

I am by no means an expert on this but I'm pretty sure that the rubber sleeve's purpose is to keep seawater out not to keep oil in so tightening those hose clamps should not stop an oil leak. Check this drawing of the C-Drive and you will see what I mean:  https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/photo/84454/12?p=Name,,c-drive,20,1,0,0

If you are sure it's oil and not seawater look for another source of the leak.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: When to use Running Back Stays and Onan Control Board PCB

Dean Gillies
 

Hi Porter,
Sounds like your travels are going with a more normal level of smoothness now! Do you plan to visit Australia, and if so, when do you expect to be there?

Regarding the runners, do you have a block fitting as shown in the attached pic for your runners?  It’s attached to the base of the staunchion adjacent to the Amel logo on the coach house. It was on Stella when we bought, but I’m not sure if it’s an original fit. It looks like it’s a pull-tight arrangement and I didn’t think it was really up to the task if the wind gets up seriously, so I’ve been using a heftier block on the rear lifting points, and using the rear cockpit winch to tension.

Maybe I could re-deploy these fittings to rig a releasable Barber hauler like you describe for a more inboard sheeting angle... hmmm. 

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154

Upper C-Drive oil leak

Eamonn Washington
 

A week ago my C-Drive started leaking oil into the engine room.  While doing 1000RPM on the Volvo TDM22 a rope wrapped 20 times around the short shaft of the Maxprop and within seconds stalled the engine.  Then the slow leak started (of the 8L 80W90 oil), where the rubber (neoprene?) hose connects with the floor of the engine room.  About 50ml leaks per hour of running time.  I tightened the 2 upper and 2 lower hose clamps, but it did not stop the leak.

The engine runs fine, the gears work fine.  What can I do to fix the leak and verify there is no other damage?  

Thanks
Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Calasetta, Sardinia, Italy.

Re: Fiji Pearl rendezvous

Paul Osterberg
 

You mean the EchoPilot 2d professional? It has a realistic price also
Paul

Re: When to use Running Back Stays and Onan Control Board PCB

Joerg Esdorn
 

Amel has published the attached guide regarding the use of runners on the A55.   This can be found on the Amel Club website, just as several other short papers on operation and maintenance of the boat.  

Re: Fiji Pearl rendezvous

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

Not sure if this is to Ken on Aquarius... But....

Yes, I have OpenCPN running on my Mac and my PC on board Aquarius.
And we use it most of the time. I love OpenCPN. Most of the
experienced sailers out here are using it as well.

Ken

On 8/15/19, via Groups.Io <n.klene=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Ken
Do you use Open CPN on a Mac ?

Nick
Still without a boat 🚣‍♀️



Access to water maker panel AMEL54

Alexander Ramseyer
 

Dear Amelians,
is the only way to access behind the water maker panel from the front? If I take away the 4 screws there is a lot of resistance.  I realize not all 54's have it at the same place, mine is in the middle, above the sinks.
Thanks!
Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15

Re: When to use Running Back Stays and Onan Control Board PCB

 

Alan,

Check with your local Onan dealer. I think your Onan part is 327-1533 PCB Assembly. There are several places I found in the US that have this part in the $1,200 - $1,300 range.
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Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 7:04 AM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Thanks Bill

327-1533 is the number we have for the MDKAV.
I'm still waiting to hear from my man how the windings tested out.

How did this get in a thread about Running backstays ??

Cheers
Alan
 

Re: Fiji Pearl rendezvous

Paul Brown
 

Hi Paul, last year I had the latest B&G installed and despite a software upgrade introduced later last year it works really well, in the boat speed needs to be less than 5kns to maintain accuracy and clarity, I’m happy

Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55#17


On 15 Aug 2019, at 9:41 am, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

Ken
I'm thinking of installing a forward looking sonar. Is there any one you recommend? 
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 

Re: When to use Running Back Stays and Onan Control Board PCB

Paul Brown
 

Thank you Alan, I appreciate the information and this will assist me

Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55#17


On 15 Aug 2019, at 2:00 pm, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Unusually we have a staysail (trinquete) on our Super Maramu.
We had a staysail on our previous 12m IOR yacht also.
You use the running backstays ALWAYS when using the staysail, because it supports the mast.
Otherwise the only support is at the top of the mast and the tension on the staysail luff will cause the mast to pump, which will destroy the mast in  big winds.
So the deal is when you sheet the staysail on the port, side for example, the running backstay on the starboard side is wound on the starboard winch...tight.
When you tack, you swap sides, staysail sheet on starboard winch, port side runner on port winch...  
Generally going upwind in strong breeze is when we use the staysail, the genoa is too baggy when reefed, it's not possible to maintain a good angle to the wind.

So ALWAYS use the runners when going up wind with the staysail.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Fiji Pearl rendezvous

NICOLAS KLENE <n.klene@...>
 

Hi Ken
Do you use Open CPN on a Mac ?

Nick
Still without a boat 🚣‍♀️

Re: Fiji Pearl rendezvous

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Colin,

Sorry about the FB !! ....much happier without it, life is simple.

Look fwd to catching up in Oz sometime.

Sure the generator issue will be solved...hours?...don;t remember bit I think <2000

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: When to use Running Back Stays and Onan Control Board PCB

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Bill

327-1533 is the number we have for the MDKAV.
I'm still waiting to hear from my man how the windings tested out.

How did this get in a thread about Running backstays ??

Cheers
Alan
 

Re: When to use Running Back Stays and Onan Control Board PCB

Alan Leslie
 

Unusually we have a staysail (trinquete) on our Super Maramu.
We had a staysail on our previous 12m IOR yacht also.
You use the running backstays ALWAYS when using the staysail, because it supports the mast.
Otherwise the only support is at the top of the mast and the tension on the staysail luff will cause the mast to pump, which will destroy the mast in  big winds.
So the deal is when you sheet the staysail on the port, side for example, the running backstay on the starboard side is wound on the starboard winch...tight.
When you tack, you swap sides, staysail sheet on starboard winch, port side runner on port winch...  
Generally going upwind in strong breeze is when we use the staysail, the genoa is too baggy when reefed, it's not possible to maintain a good angle to the wind.

So ALWAYS use the runners when going up wind with the staysail.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Fiji Pearl rendezvous

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

I like the one that JP (the previous owner) installed on Aquarius.
Easy to use and easy to install.

Echo Sounder 2D Professional.

Two places to buy in the USA.

GEMECO MARINE ACCESSO
Tel.: +1 803 693 0777
Email: info@...
Website: http://www.gemeco.com

TECHNILAB LLC
Tel.: +1 614 795 8347
Email: sales@...
Website: http://store.technilabco.com

On 8/15/19, Paul Osterberg <@Kerpa> wrote:
Ken
I'm thinking of installing a forward looking sonar. Is there any one you
recommend?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259



Re: Engine alignment

david bruce
 

Thank you Eric, Davi, Bill, Olivier and all for your suggestions regarding the align issue.  At present it seems yo be well aligned, done fairly meticulously but sans tool.   The vibration is completely resolved.  For a variety of reasons we will push on and have to hope that in X# of hours we are not in Davi’s situation.  Again thank you. 

On another recent thread topic regarding anchors.   We just switched from S100 spade to 25 kg Rocna since we felt the Spade struggled to penetrate weeds and harder packed bottom surfaces.  We have a Rocna on our boat in the PNW and it has been awesome.
  I did however switch anchors on Liesse with some misgiving given the recent reports of loss of purchase after 180deg wind shifts. 
Well,  to my complete astonishment we fell victim to this phenomenon with the very first use of the Rocna.  Gaeta bay is dense mud, very good holding in our experience thus far.  We had a solid bite and well set anchor but after a rather lazy low velocity 180 deg wind shift and then back to our original orientation over a  a couple of hours we noted we were now dragging as wind built to 18-22 kn.  The anchor was completely filled with a huge clod of mud nearly as tall as the roll bar rendering it more of a large bowling ball than anchor and which was not easy to clear. 
My impression is that the anchor acts like a large ice cream scoop when is swivels rendering it ineffective if the mud is dense and sticky. 
This is a disconcerting event on a first deployment to say the least and i m not sure what i ll do but it does seem extra caution is warranted with a thick mud bottom and the 180 deg wind shift when using a Rocna.  

Best regards, 
Dave Bruce
Liesse SN006





On Aug 14, 2019, at 6:16 AM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

David,

When I designed and made the aluminum alignment tool in the photo below, I found it was too tight a fit as the input

shaft which is also 35.00 mm. To make life simpler open the hole up a few thousands of an inch. Above is the tool used by Amel . The bolt  holes are not necessary and I just simplified their design.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 9:15 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Engine alignment

 

David,

 

Some mechanics have aligned without a special alignment tool (a fixed coupling) designed and made by Amel and easily duplicated in a machine shop. I think perfect alignment without a fixed coupling is 99% luck rather than skill. The alignment is done with the tool, then the engine is slid forward and the tool replaced with a Vetus Coupling. 

 

When the Vetus Coupling is removed, be sure to check the Rubber Bushings inside (sold separately). This is a drawing of that tool for a Super Maramu. Be sure to check the shaft size on your Santorin:

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Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 4:22 AM david bruce <davidcbruce57@...> wrote:

Hello all,

We are in Gaeta Italy where mechanics are trying to alleviate a mild but distinct engine vibration noted under load.  I'd rather not go into how this occurred but suffice it to say that moving a boat a few hundred meters at idle to a travel lift minus the stb forward alternator bracket in place is not a good idea.  (bracket was being welded after breaking and landing alt on spinning spline pulley)

 Our well intentioned but seemingly flummoxed non English speaking mechanics have us decoupled ( engine/transmission, not marriage) and best I can tell are ruminating on a fix.  I absolutely don't want to make matters worse.  

Any advice on what to do or advise them or what specifically NOT to do at this point would be greatly appreciated.  i think finding someone with significant Amel experience nearby is highly unlikely. 

Thanks so much for any advisement. 

Best regards,  

Dave Bruce 
sv Liesse   SN006


 

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Re: Fiji Pearl rendezvous

Paul Osterberg
 

Ken
I'm thinking of installing a forward looking sonar. Is there any one you recommend? 
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 

Re: Fiji Pearl rendezvous

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

Same in Fiji, same in Indonesia, same in Vanuatu.

You should have Google Map Overlays for all your anchorages. OpenCPN
with the google map overlays is a good solution. Also, I would
suggest forward looking sonar for anyone doing a circumnavigation.

Ken

On 8/12/19, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
WARNING
Be VERY careful with Navionics in the Yasawa's. In many places they are dead
wrong...eg they don't show the commonly used, and marked, channel into the
Blue Lagoon from the E, just a big reef, and the reefs they show don't often
correlate with reality
ADVICE
Get hold of paper chart F5 and make good use of the Mk1 eyeball.
Cheers
Alan



Re: When to use Running Back Stays and Onan Control Board PCB

Paul Brown
 

Hi Porter,

Could you please explain how you sheet it to the opposite side? I appreciate the knowledge

Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55#17

On 14 Aug 2019, at 7:55 am, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Scott. That’s exactly what we do re the staysail and the running backstay. Awesome sail that allows pointing quite high, really stabilized the ship. Also adds about a knot in light upwind going when used in conjunction with the Genoa. We occasionally even sheet it to the opposite site allowing for a few extra degrees upwind in light airs and calm seas.

Porter

S/v IBIS
54-152
Maupiti (and a trickle of internet)

Excuse the errors.
Sent from my IPhone
Www.fouribis.com

On Aug 13, 2019, at 7:35 PM, Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote: