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Re: Upper C-Drive oil leak

eric freedman
 

Hi Bill,

Paper towels are good. However they also absorb water. If there is some water nearby they will confuse the issue. Oilzorb pads do not absorb water.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Upper C-Drive oil leak

 

Or, paper towels.

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 3:46 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

When I have an unknown leak, I cover the area with oilzorb pads.

and check the engine and tranny every 15 minutes.

It is easier to find the approximate area where the oil is coming using the oil pads.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Upper C-Drive oil leak

 

Eamonn,
I was getting a small amount of oil which would pool (we are talking a thimble full or so) on top of the c-drive.  What I found was two issues:  1)  one of the hose from the reservoir was leaking.  The hose was actually slightly oversized for the nipples on both the c-drive and the reservoir.  A new more flexible hose and tighter clamping resolved the problem.  2) I was also over filling the reservoir.  The C-drive when working heats up quite a bit around 160 degrees and the expansion of the oil was more than the reservoir could hold when filled to the "full" mark and oil would come out the filler cap run down the hose and end up on the top of the c-drive.  I have started keeping my oil level closer to the add oil mark and have not had the problem re-occur.  

However, when your engine stalled you  applied a lot of force to the c-drive.  I am sure you know this.  If my simple answers above don't help.   Have you tried just tightening all the bolts that hold the unit together?  If you are not getting sea water into the reservoir it might be that snugging things up might help.  That C-drive is a very robust unit and I believe you would be more likely to damage your transmission or engine than the c-drive with a stall as you described.  I would think you could see the leak if the seal was leaking inside the engine room.

Good Luck,

Will Stout
SM # 180, Anni Bea True
For sale in Annapolis, MD

Re: Upper C-Drive oil leak

CW Bill Rouse
 

Or, paper towels.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 3:46 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

When I have an unknown leak, I cover the area with oilzorb pads.

and check the engine and tranny every 15 minutes.

It is easier to find the approximate area where the oil is coming using the oil pads.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 3:11 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Upper C-Drive oil leak

 

Eamonn,
I was getting a small amount of oil which would pool (we are talking a thimble full or so) on top of the c-drive.  What I found was two issues:  1)  one of the hose from the reservoir was leaking.  The hose was actually slightly oversized for the nipples on both the c-drive and the reservoir.  A new more flexible hose and tighter clamping resolved the problem.  2) I was also over filling the reservoir.  The C-drive when working heats up quite a bit around 160 degrees and the expansion of the oil was more than the reservoir could hold when filled to the "full" mark and oil would come out the filler cap run down the hose and end up on the top of the c-drive.  I have started keeping my oil level closer to the add oil mark and have not had the problem re-occur.  

However, when your engine stalled you  applied a lot of force to the c-drive.  I am sure you know this.  If my simple answers above don't help.   Have you tried just tightening all the bolts that hold the unit together?  If you are not getting sea water into the reservoir it might be that snugging things up might help.  That C-drive is a very robust unit and I believe you would be more likely to damage your transmission or engine than the c-drive with a stall as you described.  I would think you could see the leak if the seal was leaking inside the engine room.

Good Luck,

Will Stout
SM # 180, Anni Bea True
For sale in Annapolis, MD

Re: Upper C-Drive oil leak

eric freedman
 

When I have an unknown leak, I cover the area with oilzorb pads.

and check the engine and tranny every 15 minutes.

It is easier to find the approximate area where the oil is coming using the oil pads.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Will Stout via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 3:11 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Upper C-Drive oil leak

 

Eamonn,
I was getting a small amount of oil which would pool (we are talking a thimble full or so) on top of the c-drive.  What I found was two issues:  1)  one of the hose from the reservoir was leaking.  The hose was actually slightly oversized for the nipples on both the c-drive and the reservoir.  A new more flexible hose and tighter clamping resolved the problem.  2) I was also over filling the reservoir.  The C-drive when working heats up quite a bit around 160 degrees and the expansion of the oil was more than the reservoir could hold when filled to the "full" mark and oil would come out the filler cap run down the hose and end up on the top of the c-drive.  I have started keeping my oil level closer to the add oil mark and have not had the problem re-occur.  

However, when your engine stalled you  applied a lot of force to the c-drive.  I am sure you know this.  If my simple answers above don't help.   Have you tried just tightening all the bolts that hold the unit together?  If you are not getting sea water into the reservoir it might be that snugging things up might help.  That C-drive is a very robust unit and I believe you would be more likely to damage your transmission or engine than the c-drive with a stall as you described.  I would think you could see the leak if the seal was leaking inside the engine room.

Good Luck,

Will Stout
SM # 180, Anni Bea True
For sale in Annapolis, MD

Re: Access to water maker panel AMEL54

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Alex,

 

Yes, it’s the only way to have good access. I had the same issue with mine when I changed the High-pressure hose.

 

In the cockpit compartment (on the forward side), below the water-tank inlet you’ll find a wood cover which you can unscrew. You will see the water-hoses going into the backside of the panel.

You can pull/push them a bit, - also from the engine room you can push the high pressure hose up. You can pull softly the panel after you released the hoses in the back. 

Thereafter you get enough space the have better access to the panel from the galley. 

 

Hope this helps, regards

Ruedi 

 

"SY WASABI"

Amel 54. #55

 

MMSI: 269322000  

Call Sign: HBY3811

 


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Betreff: [AmelYachtOwners] Access to water maker panel AMEL54

Dear Amelians,
is the only way to access behind the water maker panel from the front? If I take away the 4 screws there is a lot of resistance.  I realize not all 54's have it at the same place, mine is in the middle, above the sinks.
Thanks!
Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15

Re: Upper C-Drive oil leak

Will Stout <tango708@...>
 

Eamonn,
I was getting a small amount of oil which would pool (we are talking a thimble full or so) on top of the c-drive.  What I found was two issues:  1)  one of the hose from the reservoir was leaking.  The hose was actually slightly oversized for the nipples on both the c-drive and the reservoir.  A new more flexible hose and tighter clamping resolved the problem.  2) I was also over filling the reservoir.  The C-drive when working heats up quite a bit around 160 degrees and the expansion of the oil was more than the reservoir could hold when filled to the "full" mark and oil would come out the filler cap run down the hose and end up on the top of the c-drive.  I have started keeping my oil level closer to the add oil mark and have not had the problem re-occur.  

However, when your engine stalled you  applied a lot of force to the c-drive.  I am sure you know this.  If my simple answers above don't help.   Have you tried just tightening all the bolts that hold the unit together?  If you are not getting sea water into the reservoir it might be that snugging things up might help.  That C-drive is a very robust unit and I believe you would be more likely to damage your transmission or engine than the c-drive with a stall as you described.  I would think you could see the leak if the seal was leaking inside the engine room.

Good Luck,

Will Stout
SM # 180, Anni Bea True
For sale in Annapolis, MD
Re: Wintering in potentially freezing conditions, water maker?

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Bill,

 

Thanks a lot that help, - as always your advices is very precise!

 

I was thinking about it, but I thought about when wintering the Boat in water. In this case it’s not possible. I got now the message ;-)

 

Thanks

Ruedi


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Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Wintering in potentially freezing conditions, water maker?

Ruedi,

He is referring to a Speed Transducer fitted in a through-hull fitting. You do not have one, unless your 54 has been changed. However, you do have a Depth Transducer fitted in a through-hull fitting. This is located under the floor and forward of the watertight bulkhead separating the salon from the forward berths. If your 54 is on the hard, you could remove the Depth Transducer and use the through-hull fitting to place the dehumidifier drain hose through.

When anyone is considering purchasing a dehumidifier for this purpose, it must have two features: 
1) When power is lost and returns, it will automatically restart. 
2) The ability to connect a drain hose. 
Many models do not have these two important features. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 12:34 PM Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:
Hi Matt
Excuse my ingorance, but can you tell me where the "knot meter sensor hole is"?
I have no Idea? Maybe I think just on the wrong end?
Regards
Ruedi
Wasabi
A54#55


On 12 Aug 2019, at 23:48, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Someone previously posted a great idea. Drain the dehumidifier out the removed knot meter sensor hole. 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:16 AM, SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:

Hi Miles, ok that pump might be the way to go.  I have also just ordered a couple of 160W tube heaters which I intend to run over winter. One in the engine room and one in the galley.
High tech incandescent lamps!

Also considering a dehumidifier, but need to find somewhere to drain the fluid. Back home in Sydney I use one in another boat (because of wet racing sails, not cold damp weather) and it drains down the galley sink.
However on the Amel it seems a bit crazy to put the fluid into the bilge, then have to rely on the bulge pump!

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154
Anchored off Jura, Scotland

X
Re: B&G Hydra / Furuno System For Sale

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Sorry for the typo:

It¹s ruedi (at) waldispuehl (dot) ch.
or
Rudolf at Waldispuehl dot ch.

Best rgds.
Ruedi

Am 14.08.19, 09:13 schrieb "Gerald Bassin" unter
<main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io on behalf of gerald.bassin@...>:

Hi Ruedi

Could you please complete your email address? ...(dot)....

Brgrds

Gerald


On 13/08/2019 17:00, Rudolf Waldispuehl wrote:
Hi everybody

If someone is still interested in Hydra2000 or Furuno Equipment
removed from an Amel54 (2007).
- B&G Hydra2000 & Hydra Instruments, - B&G Processor,
- Furuno NAVnet Chart-Ploter, Furuno AIS FA30 incl. Lorenz VHF Antenna
Spliter, Furuno Network Sounder ETR-6/10N, Furuno Heading Sensor,

Please drop me a E-mail on ruedi (at) waldispuehl (dot). I'll send you
pictures so you can see the details and make an offer.
Ruedi

"SY WASABI"
Amel 54. #55
MMSI: 269322000
Call Sign: HBY3811

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Hi Elaine;

I would be interested in BG hydra system.
Can you pleae give me info about the price locationŠetc
seckinbar@...

Seckin
SY HAYAT
SM76

On 3 Aug 2019, at 06:40, Elaine Leishman via Groups.Io
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Selling B & G hydra system as removed from 1999 Super Maramu.
Working, except for a fault with the wind transducer. Sonic speed
sensors are brand new, never installed. Will package and post
worldwide. Contact Elaine via the group. We also have a lot of
spare parts for the Volvo Penta engine and the Onan genset.
Elaine
SM 251 Nebo


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Re: Access to water maker panel AMEL54

CW Bill Rouse
 

Alex,

Maybe I can help.

High Pressure hose goes to the Control panel. Sometimes they are secured in the engine room without enough slack to pull the panel out.
--
 
Best,
 
Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
Re: Wintering in potentially freezing conditions, water maker?

CW Bill Rouse
 

Ruedi,

He is referring to a Speed Transducer fitted in a through-hull fitting. You do not have one, unless your 54 has been changed. However, you do have a Depth Transducer fitted in a through-hull fitting. This is located under the floor and forward of the watertight bulkhead separating the salon from the forward berths. If your 54 is on the hard, you could remove the Depth Transducer and use the through-hull fitting to place the dehumidifier drain hose through.

When anyone is considering purchasing a dehumidifier for this purpose, it must have two features: 
1) When power is lost and returns, it will automatically restart. 
2) The ability to connect a drain hose. 
Many models do not have these two important features. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 12:34 PM Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:
Hi Matt
Excuse my ingorance, but can you tell me where the "knot meter sensor hole is"?
I have no Idea? Maybe I think just on the wrong end?
Regards
Ruedi
Wasabi
A54#55


On 12 Aug 2019, at 23:48, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Someone previously posted a great idea. Drain the dehumidifier out the removed knot meter sensor hole. 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:16 AM, SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:

Hi Miles, ok that pump might be the way to go.  I have also just ordered a couple of 160W tube heaters which I intend to run over winter. One in the engine room and one in the galley.
High tech incandescent lamps!

Also considering a dehumidifier, but need to find somewhere to drain the fluid. Back home in Sydney I use one in another boat (because of wet racing sails, not cold damp weather) and it drains down the galley sink.
However on the Amel it seems a bit crazy to put the fluid into the bilge, then have to rely on the bulge pump!

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154
Anchored off Jura, Scotland

X
Re: Fiji Pearl rendezvous

Paul Brown
 

My model is the B&G ForwardScan with a Vulcan 7 inch screen 

Regards Paul 


On 15 Aug 2019, at 5:46 pm, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

You mean the EchoPilot 2d professional? It has a realistic price also
Paul

Re: Wintering in potentially freezing conditions, water maker?

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Matt
Excuse my ingorance, but can you tell me where the "knot meter sensor hole is"?
I have no Idea? Maybe I think just on the wrong end?
Regards
Ruedi
Wasabi
A54#55


On 12 Aug 2019, at 23:48, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Someone previously posted a great idea. Drain the dehumidifier out the removed knot meter sensor hole. 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:16 AM, SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:

Hi Miles, ok that pump might be the way to go.  I have also just ordered a couple of 160W tube heaters which I intend to run over winter. One in the engine room and one in the galley.
High tech incandescent lamps!

Also considering a dehumidifier, but need to find somewhere to drain the fluid. Back home in Sydney I use one in another boat (because of wet racing sails, not cold damp weather) and it drains down the galley sink.
However on the Amel it seems a bit crazy to put the fluid into the bilge, then have to rely on the bulge pump!

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154
Anchored off Jura, Scotland

X
Re: Upper C-Drive oil leak

CW Bill Rouse
 

Mark is right-on. If the leak is NOT coming from the reservoir return hose and leaking down the side of the C-Drive, my guess is it is a seal or gasket, which will mean disassembly.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 12:10 PM Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:
Eamonn,

I am by no means an expert on this but I'm pretty sure that the rubber sleeve's purpose is to keep seawater out not to keep oil in so tightening those hose clamps should not stop an oil leak. Check this drawing of the C-Drive and you will see what I mean:  https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/photo/84454/12?p=Name,,c-drive,20,1,0,0

If you are sure it's oil and not seawater look for another source of the leak.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: When to use Running Back Stays and Onan Control Board PCB

CW Bill Rouse
 

Dean,

Thanks for the photo. I have been on 12 54s and none had this block that would attach to stantion, although this is what I envisioned. Several of my clients rigged something like this with cam cleats to do the job.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 11:57 AM SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:
Hi Porter,
Sounds like your travels are going with a more normal level of smoothness now! Do you plan to visit Australia, and if so, when do you expect to be there?

Regarding the runners, do you have a block fitting as shown in the attached pic for your runners?  It’s attached to the base of the staunchion adjacent to the Amel logo on the coach house. It was on Stella when we bought, but I’m not sure if it’s an original fit. It looks like it’s a pull-tight arrangement and I didn’t think it was really up to the task if the wind gets up seriously, so I’ve been using a heftier block on the rear lifting points, and using the rear cockpit winch to tension.

Maybe I could re-deploy these fittings to rig a releasable Barber hauler like you describe for a more inboard sheeting angle... hmmm. 

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154

Re: Upper C-Drive oil leak

Mark McGovern
 

Eamonn,

I am by no means an expert on this but I'm pretty sure that the rubber sleeve's purpose is to keep seawater out not to keep oil in so tightening those hose clamps should not stop an oil leak. Check this drawing of the C-Drive and you will see what I mean:  https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/photo/84454/12?p=Name,,c-drive,20,1,0,0

If you are sure it's oil and not seawater look for another source of the leak.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA
Re: When to use Running Back Stays and Onan Control Board PCB

SY STELLA
 

Hi Porter,
Sounds like your travels are going with a more normal level of smoothness now! Do you plan to visit Australia, and if so, when do you expect to be there?

Regarding the runners, do you have a block fitting as shown in the attached pic for your runners?  It’s attached to the base of the staunchion adjacent to the Amel logo on the coach house. It was on Stella when we bought, but I’m not sure if it’s an original fit. It looks like it’s a pull-tight arrangement and I didn’t think it was really up to the task if the wind gets up seriously, so I’ve been using a heftier block on the rear lifting points, and using the rear cockpit winch to tension.

Maybe I could re-deploy these fittings to rig a releasable Barber hauler like you describe for a more inboard sheeting angle... hmmm. 

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154
Upper C-Drive oil leak

Eamonn Washington
 

A week ago my C-Drive started leaking oil into the engine room.  While doing 1000RPM on the Volvo TDM22 a rope wrapped 20 times around the short shaft of the Maxprop and within seconds stalled the engine.  Then the slow leak started (of the 8L 80W90 oil), where the rubber (neoprene?) hose connects with the floor of the engine room.  About 50ml leaks per hour of running time.  I tightened the 2 upper and 2 lower hose clamps, but it did not stop the leak.

The engine runs fine, the gears work fine.  What can I do to fix the leak and verify there is no other damage?  

Thanks
Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Calasetta, Sardinia, Italy.
Re: Fiji Pearl rendezvous

Paul Osterberg
 

You mean the EchoPilot 2d professional? It has a realistic price also
Paul
Re: When to use Running Back Stays and Onan Control Board PCB

Joerg Esdorn
 

Amel has published the attached guide regarding the use of runners on the A55.   This can be found on the Amel Club website, just as several other short papers on operation and maintenance of the boat.  

PDF
Set up the Runners – Club AMEL.pdf

Re: Fiji Pearl rendezvous

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

Not sure if this is to Ken on Aquarius... But....

Yes, I have OpenCPN running on my Mac and my PC on board Aquarius.
And we use it most of the time. I love OpenCPN. Most of the
experienced sailers out here are using it as well.

Ken

On 8/15/19, via Groups.Io <n.klene=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Ken
Do you use Open CPN on a Mac ?

Nick
Still without a boat 🚣‍♀️
Access to water maker panel AMEL54

Alexander Ramseyer
 

Dear Amelians,
is the only way to access behind the water maker panel from the front? If I take away the 4 screws there is a lot of resistance.  I realize not all 54's have it at the same place, mine is in the middle, above the sinks.
Thanks!
Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15