Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
Mark, can we talk via PM? I'm interested in your experience with the Schengen rules. Ian & Margaret S/V Loca Lola II SM153 US East Coast
On Aug 18, 2019, at 4:00 PM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
Mark Pitt
Hi, We loved our year long stay at the Sifredi Marina on the charming island of Carloforte, off the southwest corner of Sardinia. There were four Amel’s there when we left in 2017. It does not have extensive marine facilities but it has all the basics. Giuseppe and Carmela who run the marina are very caring and friendly. We loved the full year that we were based there. Plus, it was a bargain. Mark Pitt Sabbatical III, SM419, Rockland Maine
On Aug 18, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Massimo Vecchietti <massimovecchietti@...> wrote:
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
Massimo Vecchietti
...Marina Cala del Sole in Licata South Sicily... Max SM PATCHOULI
Il Sab 17 Ago 2019, 15:08 Theo s/v Paloma <sailingpaloma1@...> ha scritto: Hi everyone,
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Re: Parasailor for Mango
Hi Ian,
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I am also wanting to hear from any Amel 54 or other Amel owners of experience with a Parasailor. I am currently talking to Parasailor French distributor who is advising to get a bow sprit extension. I can see how this extension would keep the lines free of the front side rails. When using the Parasailor do you need to use the back stays? Does the boat balance or do you need the Mizzen sail? Anyone who might have experience would like to hear from you. Best Barry and Penny “Lady Penrlope II” AMEL 54. #17 Antibes, France
On Aug 18, 2019, at 16:10, Ian Bone <auscaptain@...> wrote:
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Parasailor for Mango
Ian Bone
I was wondering if anyone had had any experience with a parasailor sail for a Mango?
Ian Bone "Opalescence" (recently renamed (formerly Karma) and re-registered under an Australian Flag) Hull 63
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
I berthed at Monastir Marina this year for two months and found it to be very good, safe and happy service, yes unbeatable prices. The fuel is good and the labour is good but I would recommend close supervision including watching over your materials if you use them
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Regards Paul - Fortuna 55#17
On 18 Aug 2019, at 9:50 am, Gerhard Mueller via Groups.Io <carcode@...> wrote:
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Re: Misc 1985 mango electrical question
Gerhard Mueller
The box has a 220 volt connector, the one on the left with the male pin for protective conductor and the 2 female for current and mass, and a 12 volt connector on the right for the italien connector.
This italien connector plug is rarely to get in these days. In the middle is the fuse. -- Gerhard Mueller Amel Sharki #60 Currently Kalamata, Greece
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
Gerhard Mueller
I have been for 6 years in Monastir, Tunisia.
There are 2 shipyards: One in the marina with a travellift of 20 tons and another in the fishers port (Port de Peches) with a larger travellift. If you are able to tell them exactly what you want they do it very well or you do it yourself (no problem at all). But the biggest advantage over any other place in the mediterranian are the unbeatable prices. A berth floating or on the hard more than 3-times cheaper than anywhere else. Diesel fuel 3-times cheaper, alcoholics (beer, wine) nearly some prices than in Europe but food and restaurants very cheap. Best place for fish and other sea food. The Marina Monastir is camera controlled. Boats may stay without problems for 2 years (after 2 years leave Tunisia for a short trip to e.g. Pantelleria and come back for next 2 years). Port de Peches: http://www.le-dauphin-bleu.com/ Marina: http://www.marinamonastir.tn/ -- Gerhard Mueller Amel Sharki #60 Currently Kalamata, Greece
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
Joerg Esdorn
I would highly recommend Basimakopoulos shipyard in Kilada on Peloponnes. Competent, nice people doing work at a reasonable price. And the location is very safe from freak winds and thieves.
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
Joerg Esdorn
To reinforce what Bill is saying: don’t go to the shipyard in Marina di Ragusa. It’s the worst experience I’ve had in decades. And I would go further. If you want any work done on your boat, don’t go to Marina di Ragusa because the marina prohibits all work being done on your boat - including by yourself - unless it’s done by the incompetent people of the shipyard.
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
Thanks, Bill,
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I meant the question, generically, but appreciate the detailed answers. ~~~⛵️~~~Matt
On Aug 17, 2019, at 11:35 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
Which marina?
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On Aug 17, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...> wrote:
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Misc 1985 mango electrical question
Arlo
Any ideas what these two electrical boxes were installed by Amel for? The electrical system on the boat is in pristine condition but I have not figured out what Amel intended these for.
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
tony wells
Hi Matt In my experience, the Preveza (Greece) marinas have required a deposit of 10% up front (ie on reservation) and then the lift out and scrub payment has been charged on lift, with the balance invoiced and paid just prior to the launch ie on departure. Manoel Island, Malta, with whom Bill R has negotiated Yacht School client discounts, has not requested a deposit to confirm the reservation. Tony Wells
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
Matt, it is not clear which marina or which person your question is directed to, but the simple answer is each marina has its own rules. Marina di Ragusa mentioned earlier has a low price for the winter season which requires advance reservations and advance payment, although I know they made some concessions in the past. Marina di Ragusa is perfect for in-the-water, but I would NOT recommend it for hard stand. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:40 AM Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
Jose Alegria
10/100 reserve
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50/100 when you leave the boat 40/100 when you put the boat on the water. See me reasonable Resposta simplificada enviada do meu iPhone Jose Alegria 918663037 Josealegr@gmail.com No dia 17/08/2019, às 19:40, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> escreveu:
Matt
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
Out of curiosity, does the marina require the entire seasonal payment up front, or along the way?
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On Aug 17, 2019, at 7:53 AM, tony wells via Groups.Io <tony.wells@...> wrote:
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Re: Upper C-Drive oil leak
Hi Eamonn,
Glad you found the leak. Yes, the 60-90-10 is a generic rotary shaft seal (aka lip seal), any brand is fine like SKF, Parker Hannefin, etc. and no, no special features are needed (ie., a stainless steel garter spring is not needed). You can get either a single lip or a double lip if that's all they've got (the 2nd lip is just a dirt barrier and can't hurt, but is not needed here). This can most certainly be done in the water. You may not have much success with the vacuum oil pump, other then emptying the reservoir, which you can do, perhaps more easily, by removing the reservoir's bottom hose from the C-drive's housing and draining the oil into a container. There will still be some dripping when you remove the old seal so just bunch some rags below it. Hope I didn't put you off with talk of hand sledge and chisels-as-wedges - this is really a pretty easy job. You might want to see if it's in your DIY comfort zone by loosening the bolts on your Vetus coupling and seeing if the coupling is free to slide a fraction fore-and-aft on the C-drive shaft. That's half the battle. If it's free, then loosen the metal retaining ring that sits outside of the lip seal - it's got a small bolt clamping it to the shaft. If that wiggles free you're good to go. If those are frozen, maybe go ahead with your mechanic. "Scooting" the engine back is just removing the four engine mounting bolts - no need to remove shift, throttle, fuel, water, or air connections - just four bolts. You'll want to use long extensions on your socket wrench and an "old man" extension pipe for the ratchet handle to give more leverage. Then run a stout line between you primaries and through the engine's lifting ring, apply some tension to unweight the engine (don't pick it up - just unweight it), "scoot" it back and ... Bob's your Uncle. The whole project should take 3 hours and 47 minutes. 😜 Good luck with it! Craig SN68 Sangaris
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
tony wells
Hi Theo We’ve acted on Bill’s recommendation to lift out in Malta this winter. We’ve been in Preveza, Greece for 2 winters (latterly with the Amel). We were in Cleopatra Marina which is highly organised but in my experience can be a little ‘officious’ about who works on your boat. You may find Ionion (sic) Marina next door is a little more relaxed. In my opinion, they’re both good value at approx €3k. Aktio is the third Marina there - reputedly more relaxed in every way. The Greek tepai tax won’t be payable while you’re ashore (but you’ll pay for a month at c€100 on entry no matter if it’s just a few days before lift, plus an annual Dekpa at €50) Malta is a little more expensive at circa €4K but I’m seeking a better choice of consistent quality in engineering, electronic and rigging skills for several winter projects. And direct winter flights are helpful. We had an offer from Marina di Ragusa at €2,700 and would probably like to spend a winter afloat there in the future. There are plenty of Amel owners who’ve experienced all of the above and will have great first hand knowledge. Wishing you well with your decision making and I suggest you might want to move very quickly - certainly the Greek marinas may tell you’re they’re largely booked (I’m at Kalamata right now, which could be an excellent choice but my neighbours just told me there’s currently no winter space - but things are often ‘fluid’ in this part of the world). If you end up in Preveza please ask me for engineer recommendations - I’ve good and bad experiences to share privately if that’s helpful. Best, Tony Wells A54 #102 Balthazar Kalamata, Southern Peloponnese, Greece
On 17 Aug 2019, at 17:08, Theo s/v Paloma <sailingpaloma1@...> wrote:
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Re: Recommendations for winter on the hard in S. Italy or Greece
Hi Theo, I can recommend Capo de Orlando or marina Di Ragusa north and south Sicily Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55#17
On 17 Aug 2019, at 4:08 pm, Theo s/v Paloma <sailingpaloma1@...> wrote:
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